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Topic: Science > Abortion
User: "J Young"
Date: 01 Jul 2007 11:54:55 PM
Object: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions
This is a crying shame that something as wholesome and American as
baseball is being desecrated by liberal values.
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56459
Afternoon at the park to feature 'pride' singers, free caps for kids
Not even an afternoon at a baseball game apparently is going to be
safe for parents who want to protect their children from advocates for
homosexuality, with the San Diego Padres' confirmation their July 8
game will simultaneously offer free caps to attract children, and a
formal recognition of the area's homosexual organization.
"San Diego Pride supporters and volunteers will be recognized for
organizing the group event with a scoreboard welcome and the Gay Men's
Chorus of San Diego will sing the National Anthem," the Major League
Baseball team has announced on its website.
"This action by the San Diego Padres management has greatly tarnished
their record as being a family friendly organization. They have truly
offended the moral and religious sensibilities of literally thousands
of fans. I will never look at the Padres the same way that I have over
the past 40 plus years here in San Diego, enjoying its image as being
pro family. It is really sad," said Phil Magnan, the director for
Biblical Family Advocates.
.

User: "David Thuleen"

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 02 Jul 2007 02:14:14 PM
In article <1183352095.916411.206140@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, J
Young <youngopinions2@aol.com> wrote:

This is a crying shame that something as wholesome and American as
baseball is being desecrated by liberal values.
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56459
Afternoon at the park to feature 'pride' singers, free caps for kids


Not even an afternoon at a baseball game apparently is going to be
safe for parents who want to protect their children from advocates for
homosexuality, with the San Diego Padres' confirmation their July 8
game will simultaneously offer free caps to attract children, and a
formal recognition of the area's homosexual organization.

"San Diego Pride supporters and volunteers will be recognized for
organizing the group event with a scoreboard welcome and the Gay Men's
Chorus of San Diego will sing the National Anthem," the Major League
Baseball team has announced on its website.

"This action by the San Diego Padres management has greatly tarnished
their record as being a family friendly organization. They have truly
offended the moral and religious sensibilities of literally thousands
of fans. I will never look at the Padres the same way that I have over
the past 40 plus years here in San Diego, enjoying its image as being
pro family. It is really sad," said Phil Magnan, the director for
Biblical Family Advocates.

Cool! Thanks for sharing the good news. And in my own right-wing
county, too!
Oh, and in case you hadn't noticed, "liberal" has ceased to be an
effective smear word.
--
-------------
Dave Thuleen
Escondido, California
"You could give Aristotle a tutorial. And you could thrill him to the core of
his being ... Such is the privilege of living after Newton, Darwin, Einstein,
Planck, Watson, Crick and their colleagues."
"'Offense' is what people talk when they can't take an argument."
-- Richard Dawkins http://tinyurl.com/yrkhxh
"We do not respect people's beliefs; we evaluate their reasons. If my reasons
are good enough, you will helplessly believe what I believe. That is what it
is to be a rational human being. Reasons are contagious."
-- Sam Harris, author of The End of Faith    http://www.samharris.org/
Click to watch these video links:
Richard Dawkins address at the University of Kansas:
http://tinyurl.com/26u9l4
Sam Harris address at the Society for Ethical Culture, New York City
http://tinyurl.com/38myhh
Click to listen to this audio link:
http://longnow.chubbo.net/salt-0200512-harris/salt-0200512-harris.mp3
Those Fanatical Atheists
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How well do you know the Bible?
http://www.ffrf.org/quiz/bquiz.php
Just as others do, they wait for their messiah to return:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6370991.stm
Why won't God heal amputees?
http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/
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User: "Spartakus"

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 02 Jul 2007 10:47:08 AM
J Young <youngopinio...@aol.com> wrote:

This is a crying shame that something as wholesome and American as
baseball is being desecrated by liberal values.

"There's no crying in baseball!" -- Tom Hanks in "A League of Their
Own".

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56459

Afternoon at the park to feature 'pride' singers, free caps for kids

WND is serving roadkill to its readers instead of red meat, and JYoung/
IBen doesn't seem to notice.
.

User: "No One"

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 02 Jul 2007 12:27:48 AM
J Young <youngopinions2@aol.com> writes:

This is a crying shame that something as wholesome and American as
baseball is being desecrated by liberal values.

(But not a word about cities selling the names of baseball stadiums to
corporate sponsors as our elected officials bow down to worship the
Almighty Dollar.)

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56459

Afternoon at the park to feature 'pride' singers, free caps for kids

Not even an afternoon at a baseball game apparently is going to be
safe for parents who want to protect their children from advocates for
homosexuality, with the San Diego Padres' confirmation their July 8
game will simultaneously offer free caps to attract children, and a
formal recognition of the area's homosexual organization.

"San Diego Pride supporters and volunteers will be recognized for
organizing the group event with a scoreboard welcome and the Gay Men's
Chorus of San Diego will sing the National Anthem," the Major League
Baseball team has announced on its website.

"This action by the San Diego Padres management has greatly tarnished
their record as being a family friendly organization. They have truly
offended the moral and religious sensibilities of literally thousands
of fans. I will never look at the Padres the same way that I have over
the past 40 plus years here in San Diego, enjoying its image as being
pro family. It is really sad," said Phil Magnan, the director for
Biblical Family Advocates.

As Wotan said about Alberich's curse, "Gönn' ihm die geifernde Lust!"
.

User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 02 Jul 2007 02:30:08 PM
J Young <youngopinions2@aol.com> wrote in news:1183352095.916411.206140
@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:

This is a crying shame that something as wholesome and American as
baseball is being desecrated by liberal values.

Better performance through chemistry is wholesome, eh?
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA

And if you believe in that supreme power, you have to believe that *it*
came from nothing? Which is harder: to believe that a super-simple
universe, emergent from nothing, iterating simple algorithms billions of
times, brought about all the wonderful complexity you see around you, or
that a super-complicated and mightily all-powerful God built a simple and
undignified little universe of pain and sorrow, leaving no coherent
explanation whatsoever?
-- Elf M. Sternberg
.
User: "Dionisio"

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 02 Jul 2007 04:02:44 PM
Enkidu wrote:

Better performance through chemistry is wholesome, eh?

Family values need Viagra these days...
Personally, I'm surprised that no one stumbled onto the plan to have the umpire note when
someone is "safe" by tossing out a condom...
(We did send the Press Release covering that, didn't we?)
cc:Homosexual Promotion Committee
--
And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
A lock is a useless thing. It is not needed against the honest, and the thief regards it
as a pointer to wealth.
-- Dionisio
(Brought to you by SigChanger. http://www.phranc.nl)
.


User: "Dionisio"

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 02 Jul 2007 03:51:34 PM
J Young wrote:

This is a crying shame that something as wholesome and American as
baseball is being desecrated by liberal values.

Tune in next week when we shall have a rant of how "American Pie" destroyed the wholesome
apple-packed baked good...

It is really sad," said Phil Magnan, the director for
Biblical Family Advocates.

Ah, a group that relies on Cameron, NARTH, and recommends that families send their
homosexual youth to Love Won Out; A group made notable not so long ago for the fact that
their former spokesman proved that it doesn't. (Among others of some amusement value.)
"Bravo!"
--
And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
Did it ever occur to you that the reason you don't go around declaring pride in your
heterosexuality is that YOU'RE NOT OPPRESSED!!!! YOU'RE NOT TOLD FROM BIRTH THAT YOU'RE
SCUM, THAT YOU'RE A PERVERT AND THAT YOU DESERVE TO DIE???
--
(Mark Milano), 17 Aug 1995
(Brought to you by SigChanger. http://www.phranc.nl)
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User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 03 Jul 2007 03:34:15 PM
On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 21:54:55 -0700 there was an Ancient J Young
<youngopinions2@aol.com> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism

This is a crying shame that something as wholesome and American as
baseball is being desecrated by liberal values.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56459

Who cares? The Giants having been having "Until There's A Cure Day"
and "GLBT Singles" nights for years.
Gay peoples' money spends just as well as straights.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
.
User: "Jail Patrick Fitzgerald"

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 04 Jul 2007 10:55:12 AM
On Jul 3, 1:34 pm, Douglas Berry <penguin_...@mindOBVIOUSspring.com>
wrote:

On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 21:54:55 -0700 there was an Ancient J Young
<youngopinio...@aol.com> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism

This is a crying shame that something as wholesome and American as
baseball is being desecrated by liberal values.


http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56459


Who cares? The Giants having been having "Until There's A Cure Day"
and "GLBT Singles" nights for years.

Gay peoples' money spends just as well as straights.

Sure it does, and so doesn't OJ Simpson's. Does it therefore follow
that OJ Simpson is a good a choice to host my grand daughter's next
birthday party as, say, anyone else with a few hundred bucks in his
pocket?
.
User: "Dionisio"

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 04 Jul 2007 01:27:21 PM
Jail Patrick Fitzgerald wrote:

Sure it does, and so doesn't OJ Simpson's. Does it therefore follow
that OJ Simpson is a good a choice to host my grand daughter's next
birthday party as, say, anyone else with a few hundred bucks in his
pocket?

Frisk him for gloves and knives, and you should be fine. Might want to provide him some
condoms though...
--
And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
Man -- a creature made at the end of the week's work when God was tired.
-- Mark Twain
(Brought to you by SigChanger. http://www.phranc.nl)
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User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 04 Jul 2007 02:21:39 PM
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 08:55:12 -0700 there was an Ancient Jail Patrick
Fitzgerald <crocliod@guerrillamail.info> who stoppeth one in
alt.atheism

On Jul 3, 1:34 pm, Douglas Berry <penguin_...@mindOBVIOUSspring.com>
wrote:

On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 21:54:55 -0700 there was an Ancient J Young
<youngopinio...@aol.com> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism

This is a crying shame that something as wholesome and American as
baseball is being desecrated by liberal values.


http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56459


Who cares? The Giants having been having "Until There's A Cure Day"
and "GLBT Singles" nights for years.

Gay peoples' money spends just as well as straights.


Sure it does, and so doesn't OJ Simpson's. Does it therefore follow
that OJ Simpson is a good a choice to host my grand daughter's next
birthday party as, say, anyone else with a few hundred bucks in his
pocket?

That makes no sense whatsoever. You are free to hire whoever you like
to perform at a private event. And if OJ has a few hundred bucks, he
owes it to the people he was successfully sued by.
We are discussing an event held by a major sports team reaching out to
a particular demographic. I point out that the Giants have been doing
this for years.
Care to address what I actually wrote, or will you be be frothing some
more?
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
.



User: ""

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 02 Jul 2007 12:05:32 AM
On 2 Jul., 06:54, J Young <youngopinio...@aol.com> wrote:

This is a crying shame that something as wholesome and American as
baseball is being desecrated by liberal values.

You probably would have said the same thing when Jackie Robinson
started to play for the Dodgers in the 1940s.
Why are you systematically on the side of homophobes, racists, nazis,
antisemites and bigots?
Desperate need for attention or just trolling?
.
User: "J Young"

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 02 Jul 2007 12:11:41 AM
On Jul 2, 1:05?am,
wrote:

On 2 Jul., 06:54, J Young <youngopinio...@aol.com> wrote:

This is a crying shame that something as wholesome and American as
baseball is being desecrated by liberal values.


You probably would have said the same thing when Jackie Robinson
started to play for the Dodgers in the 1940s.

Untrue, I always have supported full equality for Americans of color

Why are you systematically on the side of homophobes, racists, nazis,
antisemites and bigots?
Desperate need for attention or just trolling?

Why are you always on the side of everything that's wrong and indecent
about this world?
.
User: "LC"

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 02 Jul 2007 08:41:49 AM
Another day, another lie when "J Young" <youngopinions2@aol.com> wrote in
message news:1183353101.259046.57920@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

On Jul 2, 1:05?am,

wrote:

On 2 Jul., 06:54, J Young <youngopinio...@aol.com> wrote:

This is a crying shame that something as wholesome and American as
baseball is being desecrated by liberal values.

You probably would have said the same thing when Jackie Robinson
started to play for the Dodgers in the 1940s.

Untrue, I always have supported full equality for Americans of color

Now THAT'S funny!:
"Problem with those negroes was that they were too slow, lazy, and
stupid. They were warned to go, just like the white people were. The
difference; the white man left. By the time the shines boardered the
transportation available, there was too many people at the same time
looking to leave. Who's fault is that?" ~ J "Auric Hellman" Young
Message-ID: <1156808851.598786.134010@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>
"No way do negroes vote Republican,no matter who else is on the
ballot.Whoever the Democrats nominate will get the negroe vote.Makes sense
to nominate either a Hispanic or a white woman.Definitely no jew or
negroe.It will not make a real difference;the true power in a Kerry White
House will be the Vatican." ~ J "Auric Hellman" Young
Message-ID: <7f6257f6.0403291027.48c990a6@posting.google.com>
.

User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 02 Jul 2007 02:40:21 AM
J Young <youngopinions2@aol.com> wrote:

parsifa...@gmail.com wrote:

J Young <youngopinio...@aol.com> wrote:

This is a crying shame that something as wholesome and American as
baseball is being desecrated by liberal values.


You probably would have said the same thing when Jackie Robinson
started to play for the Dodgers in the 1940s.


Untrue, I always have supported full equality for Americans of color

How liberal you've become all of a sudden.

Why are you systematically on the side of homophobes, racists, nazis,
antisemites and bigots?
Desperate need for attention or just trolling?


Why are you always on the side of everything that's wrong and indecent
about this world?

He's NOT on your side, nazi turd.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 02 Jul 2007 12:15:20 AM
On 2 Jul., 07:11, J Young <youngopinio...@aol.com> wrote:

On Jul 2, 1:05?am,

wrote:

On 2 Jul., 06:54, J Young <youngopinio...@aol.com> wrote:


This is a crying shame that something as wholesome and American as
baseball is being desecrated by liberal values.


You probably would have said the same thing when Jackie Robinson
started to play for the Dodgers in the 1940s.


Untrue, I always have supported full equality for Americans of color

Liar.
Calling them "Americans of color" shows very well where you stand,
nazi turd.


Why are you systematically on the side of homophobes, racists, nazis,
antisemites and bigots?
Desperate need for attention or just trolling?


Why are you always on the side of everything that's wrong and indecent
about this world?

Give an example.
I've always opposed intolerace, bigotry and racism hence my daily
answers to your verbal diarhea.
.
User: "John D. Wentzky"

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 02 Jul 2007 01:04:32 AM
<parsifal50@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1183353320.013305.191740@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com...

On 2 Jul., 07:11, J Young <youngopinio...@aol.com> wrote:

On Jul 2, 1:05?am,

wrote:

On 2 Jul., 06:54, J Young <youngopinio...@aol.com> wrote:


This is a crying shame that something as wholesome and American as
baseball is being desecrated by liberal values.


You probably would have said the same thing when Jackie Robinson
started to play for the Dodgers in the 1940s.


Untrue, I always have supported full equality for Americans of color


Liar.
Calling them "Americans of color" shows very well where you stand,
nazi turd.

Hmm. NACCP must be a Nazi organization to you then.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 02 Jul 2007 01:28:27 AM
On 2 Jul., 08:04, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:

<

> wrote in message

news:1183353320.013305.191740@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com...





On 2 Jul., 07:11, J Young <youngopinio...@aol.com> wrote:

On Jul 2, 1:05?am,

wrote:


On 2 Jul., 06:54, J Young <youngopinio...@aol.com> wrote:


This is a crying shame that something as wholesome and American as
baseball is being desecrated by liberal values.


You probably would have said the same thing when Jackie Robinson
started to play for the Dodgers in the 1940s.


Untrue, I always have supported full equality for Americans of color


Liar.
Calling them "Americans of color" shows very well where you stand,
nazi turd.


Hmm. NACCP must be a Nazi organization to you then.-

It was founded in 1909 when such an expression was acceptable.
Secondly, Black people can call themselves what they want.
A white person who uses expressions like "coloured" or "negroes" is
either craving for attention or a pathetic racist.
Since I can decide into which category belongs J Young I call him a
nazi turd in dire need of attention.
.
User: "John D. Wentzky"

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 02 Jul 2007 09:33:45 AM
<parsifal50@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1183357707.550196.293770@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

On 2 Jul., 08:04, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:

<

> wrote in message

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On 2 Jul., 07:11, J Young <youngopinio...@aol.com> wrote:

On Jul 2, 1:05?am,

wrote:


On 2 Jul., 06:54, J Young <youngopinio...@aol.com> wrote:


This is a crying shame that something as wholesome and American as
baseball is being desecrated by liberal values.


You probably would have said the same thing when Jackie Robinson
started to play for the Dodgers in the 1940s.


Untrue, I always have supported full equality for Americans of color


Liar.
Calling them "Americans of color" shows very well where you stand,
nazi turd.


Hmm. NACCP must be a Nazi organization to you then.-


It was founded in 1909 when such an expression was acceptable.
Secondly, Black people can call themselves what they want.
A white person who uses expressions like "coloured" or "negroes" is
either craving for attention or a pathetic racist.

Right there you are accusing all persons who are not white who use those
terms of craving for attention or being a pathetic racist.
Why are you hypocritical in your application of race characteristics?

Since I can decide into which category belongs J Young I call him a
nazi turd in dire need of attention.

But, you are showing yourself not to be an adherent of non-racism ethics.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 02 Jul 2007 12:01:25 PM
On 2 Jul., 16:33, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:

<

> wrote in message

news:1183357707.550196.293770@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com...





On 2 Jul., 08:04, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:

<

> wrote in message


news:1183353320.013305.191740@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com...


On 2 Jul., 07:11, J Young <youngopinio...@aol.com> wrote:

On Jul 2, 1:05?am,

wrote:


On 2 Jul., 06:54, J Young <youngopinio...@aol.com> wrote:


This is a crying shame that something as wholesome and American as
baseball is being desecrated by liberal values.


You probably would have said the same thing when Jackie Robinson
started to play for the Dodgers in the 1940s.


Untrue, I always have supported full equality for Americans of color


Liar.
Calling them "Americans of color" shows very well where you stand,
nazi turd.


Hmm. NACCP must be a Nazi organization to you then.-


It was founded in 1909 when such an expression was acceptable.
Secondly, Black people can call themselves what they want.
A white person who uses expressions like "coloured" or "negroes" is
either craving for attention or a pathetic racist.


Right there you are accusing all persons who are not white who use those
terms of craving for attention or being a pathetic racist.

Uh... no... I do exactly the opposite. Black people can call
themselves "coloured" if they want to (although i've never witnessed
that), I can't.
That's as simple as that.
It's like family: I can say whatever I want against my parents, not
you.

Why are you hypocritical in your application of race characteristics?

Wentzky, there's only one hypocrite here (and a pervert) and it's
you.

Since I can decide into which category belongs J Young I call him a
nazi turd in dire need of attention.


But, you are showing yourself not to be an adherent of non-racism ethics.-

Please, cite one posting where I display a racist or a intolerant
attitude?
We all know you hate Blacks, Wentzky. What are you trying to do?
.
User: "John D. Wentzky"

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 02 Jul 2007 01:20:05 PM
<parsifal50@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1183395685.001548.85210@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

On 2 Jul., 16:33, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:

<

> wrote in message

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On 2 Jul., 08:04, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:

<

> wrote in message


news:1183353320.013305.191740@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com...


On 2 Jul., 07:11, J Young <youngopinio...@aol.com> wrote:

On Jul 2, 1:05?am,

wrote:


On 2 Jul., 06:54, J Young <youngopinio...@aol.com> wrote:


This is a crying shame that something as wholesome and American
as
baseball is being desecrated by liberal values.


You probably would have said the same thing when Jackie Robinson
started to play for the Dodgers in the 1940s.


Untrue, I always have supported full equality for Americans of
color


Liar.
Calling them "Americans of color" shows very well where you stand,
nazi turd.


Hmm. NACCP must be a Nazi organization to you then.-


It was founded in 1909 when such an expression was acceptable.
Secondly, Black people can call themselves what they want.
A white person who uses expressions like "coloured" or "negroes" is
either craving for attention or a pathetic racist.


Right there you are accusing all persons who are not white who use those
terms of craving for attention or being a pathetic racist.


Uh... no... I do exactly the opposite.

Actually, you are discriminating.

Black people can call
themselves "coloured" if they want to (although i've never witnessed
that), I can't.

Why are you thinking freedom of speech does not allow anyone to use any
term?
You are relying on the race characteristic in support of censorship.

But, you are showing yourself not to be an adherent of non-racism
ethics.-


Please, cite one posting where I display a racist or a intolerant
attitude?

Here in this thread you are supporting censorship on the basis or race.

We all know you hate Blacks, Wentzky.

Since when do I hate blacks?

What are you trying to do?

Just showing you that racist-based complaints that rely on censoring one
group while allowing other groups freedom of speech isn't proper.
.
User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 02 Jul 2007 07:04:53 PM
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

<parsifal50@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 2 Jul., 16:33, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:

<

> wrote in message
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On 2 Jul., 08:04, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:

<

> wrote in message
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On 2 Jul., 07:11, J Young <youngopinio...@aol.com> wrote:

On Jul 2, 1:05?am,

wrote:

On 2 Jul., 06:54, J Young <youngopinio...@aol.com> wrote:

This is a crying shame that something as wholesome and American
as baseball is being desecrated by liberal values.

You probably would have said the same thing when Jackie Robinson
started to play for the Dodgers in the 1940s.

Untrue, I always have supported full equality for Americans of
color

Liar. Calling them "Americans of color" shows very well where you
stand, nazi turd.

Hmm. NACCP must be a Nazi organization to you then.-

It was founded in 1909 when such an expression was acceptable.
Secondly, Black people can call themselves what they want.
A white person who uses expressions like "coloured" or "negroes" is
either craving for attention or a pathetic racist.

Right there you are accusing all persons who are not white who use those
terms of craving for attention or being a pathetic racist.

Uh... no... I do exactly the opposite.

Actually, you are discriminating.

Actually, you have no idea of what you're accusing others of.

Black people can call themselves "coloured" if they want to (although i've
never witnessed that), I can't.

Why are you thinking freedom of speech does not allow anyone to use any term?
You are relying on the race characteristic in support of censorship.

Normal people are relying on logic, while you pledge your allegiance to
insanity.

But, you are showing yourself not to be an adherent of non-racism
ethics.-

Please, cite one posting where I display a racist or a intolerant
attitude?

Here in this thread you are supporting censorship on the basis or race.

....in your opinion, which (as you've repeatedly demonstrated) need not be
taken seriously.

We all know you hate Blacks, Wentzky.

Since when do I hate blacks?

Since when have you been sane?

What are you trying to do?

Just showing you that racist-based complaints that rely on censoring one
group while allowing other groups freedom of speech isn't proper.

You're not going to be able to decide what's proper for anyone, and you'll
lose that privilege for yourself in the not too distant future, thanks to your
upcoming trial.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: October 2007, date/place/opponent TBA
.


User: "bobandcarole"

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 02 Jul 2007 12:03:56 PM
On Jul 2, 1:01?pm,
wrote:

On 2 Jul., 16:33, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:





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On 2 Jul., 08:04, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:

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On 2 Jul., 07:11, J Young <youngopinio...@aol.com> wrote:

On Jul 2, 1:05?am,

wrote:


On 2 Jul., 06:54, J Young <youngopinio...@aol.com> wrote:


This is a crying shame that something as wholesome and American as
baseball is being desecrated by liberal values.


You probably would have said the same thing when Jackie Robinson
started to play for the Dodgers in the 1940s.


Untrue, I always have supported full equality for Americans of color


Liar.
Calling them "Americans of color" shows very well where you stand,
nazi turd.


Hmm. NACCP must be a Nazi organization to you then.-


It was founded in 1909 when such an expression was acceptable.
Secondly, Black people can call themselves what they want.
A white person who uses expressions like "coloured" or "negroes" is
either craving for attention or a pathetic racist.


Right there you are accusing all persons who are not white who use those
terms of craving for attention or being a pathetic racist.


Uh... no... I do exactly the opposite. Black people can call
themselves "coloured" if they want to (although i've never witnessed
that), I can't.
That's as simple as that.
It's like family: I can say whatever I want against my parents, not
you.

Why are you hypocritical in your application of race characteristics?


Wentzky, there's only one hypocrite here (and a pervert) and it's
you.

Since I can decide into which category belongs J Young I call him a
nazi turd in dire need of attention.


But, you are showing yourself not to be an adherent of non-racism ethics.-


Please, cite one posting where I display a racist or a intolerant
attitude?

We all know you hate Blacks, Wentzky.

Ahhhh shut the ***** up, wigger.

What are you trying to do?

Make a foolish tap-dancer out of you and he's doing a good job!!
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 02 Jul 2007 06:08:46 PM
On 2 Jul., 19:03, bobandcarole <bobandcarole...@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 2, 1:01?pm,

wrote:





On 2 Jul., 16:33, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:


<

> wrote in message


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On 2 Jul., 08:04, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:

<

> wrote in message


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On 2 Jul., 07:11, J Young <youngopinio...@aol.com> wrote:

On Jul 2, 1:05?am,

wrote:


On 2 Jul., 06:54, J Young <youngopinio...@aol.com> wrote:


This is a crying shame that something as wholesome and American as
baseball is being desecrated by liberal values.


You probably would have said the same thing when Jackie Robinson
started to play for the Dodgers in the 1940s.


Untrue, I always have supported full equality for Americans of color


Liar.
Calling them "Americans of color" shows very well where you stand,
nazi turd.


Hmm. NACCP must be a Nazi organization to you then.-


It was founded in 1909 when such an expression was acceptable.
Secondly, Black people can call themselves what they want.
A white person who uses expressions like "coloured" or "negroes" is
either craving for attention or a pathetic racist.


Right there you are accusing all persons who are not white who use those
terms of craving for attention or being a pathetic racist.


Uh... no... I do exactly the opposite. Black people can call
themselves "coloured" if they want to (although i've never witnessed
that), I can't.
That's as simple as that.
It's like family: I can say whatever I want against my parents, not
you.


Why are you hypocritical in your application of race characteristics?


Wentzky, there's only one hypocrite here (and a pervert) and it's
you.


Since I can decide into which category belongs J Young I call him a
nazi turd in dire need of attention.


But, you are showing yourself not to be an adherent of non-racism ethics.-


Please, cite one posting where I display a racist or a intolerant
attitude?


We all know you hate Blacks, Wentzky.


Ahhhh shut the ***** up, wigger.

Thank you for admitting I'm right.


What are you trying to do?

Make a foolish tap-dancer out of you and he's doing a good job!!-

Still haven't made it out of the closet, homo bob?
.



User: "Syd M."

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 02 Jul 2007 09:48:25 AM
On Jul 2, 10:33 am, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:

<

> wrote in message

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On 2 Jul., 08:04, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:

<

> wrote in message


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On 2 Jul., 07:11, J Young <youngopinio...@aol.com> wrote:

On Jul 2, 1:05?am,

wrote:


On 2 Jul., 06:54, J Young <youngopinio...@aol.com> wrote:


This is a crying shame that something as wholesome and American as
baseball is being desecrated by liberal values.


You probably would have said the same thing when Jackie Robinson
started to play for the Dodgers in the 1940s.


Untrue, I always have supported full equality for Americans of color


Liar.
Calling them "Americans of color" shows very well where you stand,
nazi turd.


Hmm. NACCP must be a Nazi organization to you then.-


It was founded in 1909 when such an expression was acceptable.
Secondly, Black people can call themselves what they want.
A white person who uses expressions like "coloured" or "negroes" is
either craving for attention or a pathetic racist.


Right there you are accusing all persons who are not white who use those
terms of craving for attention or being a pathetic racist.
Why are you hypocritical in your application of race characteristics?

Since I can decide into which category belongs J Young I call him a
nazi turd in dire need of attention.


But, you are showing yourself not to be an adherent of non-racism ethics.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Funny.. Where I'm sitting, it's JrkYoung who's an adherent of rascist
ethics.
And since your defending him, guess what that makes you..
PDW
BTW, aren't you supposed to be having your trial soon.. You know, the
one where you "defended" yourself against a cop who was trying to
sedate you..
.
User: "John D. Wentzky"

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 02 Jul 2007 10:23:56 AM
"Syd M." <pdwright42@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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BTW, aren't you supposed to be having your trial soon.

My trial?
Hmmm.
Are you alluding that I own the court?

You know, the one where you "defended" yourself against a cop who was
trying to
sedate you.

Cop tried to sedate me?
Are you alluding that cops are licensed to practice medicine?
.
User: "Syd M."

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 02 Jul 2007 02:13:04 PM
On Jul 2, 11:23 am, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:

"Syd M." <pdwrigh...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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BTW, aren't you supposed to be having your trial soon.


My trial?
Hmmm.
Are you alluding that I own the court?

You know what I mean, convict.

You know, the one where you "defended" yourself against a cop who was
trying to
sedate you.


Cop tried to sedate me?
Are you alluding that cops are licensed to practice medicine?

Maybe I should have used "subdued", but my break was ending..
Anyway, if a cop does have to subdue you, it prolly means you were
acting in an manner that warrented it.
PDW, not at work, thank you..
.

User: "Mark Sebree"

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 02 Jul 2007 10:54:20 AM
On Jul 2, 11:23 am, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:

"Syd M." <pdwrigh...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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BTW, aren't you supposed to be having your trial soon.

[Piggybacking] His trial is not likely to be for another year, given
the backlog apparent from the dockets in Anderson County, SC.


My trial?
Hmmm.
Are you alluding that I own the court?

No. He is stating the fact that you have been charged with 2
misdemeanors and a felony, and that you will soon be required to
appear in court to defend yourself against those charges.


You know, the one where you "defended" yourself against a cop who was
trying to sedate you.


Cop tried to sedate me?
Are you alluding that cops are licensed to practice medicine?

No, but they are trained to perform paramedic duties.
The definition that he was using means to calm you down, which does
NOT require any drugs.
And if the cop threatened you, it is usually pretty obvious that you
needed to be threatened in order to get you to comply with the cop's
instructions and requests.
Mark Sebree
.
User: "John D. Wentzky"

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 02 Jul 2007 12:15:43 PM
Notice:
I am posting this one message to the groups listed.
Any failure to allow this message to be posted to all of those groups will
be considered an act of treason.
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
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On Jul 2, 11:23 am, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:

"Syd M." <pdwrigh...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:1183387705.210815.22470@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...



BTW, aren't you supposed to be having your trial soon.


[Piggybacking] His trial is not likely to be for another year, given
the backlog apparent from the dockets in Anderson County, SC.


My trial?
Hmmm.
Are you alluding that I own the court?


No.

Did I ask you?

He is stating the fact that you have been charged with 2
misdemeanors and a felony, and that you will soon be required to
appear in court to defend yourself against those charges.

That isn't what he said.


You know, the one where you "defended" yourself against a cop who was
trying to sedate you.


Cop tried to sedate me?
Are you alluding that cops are licensed to practice medicine?


No, but they are trained to perform paramedic duties.

"Sedation is a medical procedure involving the administration of sedative
drugs, generally to facilitate a medical procedure with local anaesthesia."

The definition that he was using means to calm you down, which does
NOT require any drugs.

Illiteracy got you down?

And if the cop threatened you, it is usually pretty obvious that you
needed to be threatened in order to get you to comply with the cop's
instructions and requests.

Militaristic SCUMBAG *****.
Your support of threats as prudent are what can harm you.
Read this law, you ignorant treason supporter:
SECTION 16-9-340. Intimidation of court officials, jurors or witnesses. [SC
ST SEC 16-9-340]
(A) It is unlawful for a person by threat or force to:
(1) intimidate or impede a judge, magistrate, juror, witness, or potential
juror or witness, arbiter, commissioner, or member of any commission of this
State or any other official of any court, in the discharge of his duty as
such; or
(2) destroy, impede, or attempt to obstruct or impede the administration of
justice in any court.
(B) A person who violates the provisions of subsection (A) is guilty of a
felony and, upon conviction, must be fined not more than ten thousand
dollars or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both."
Threatening me is punishable by law.
The cop who threatened me is guilty.
.
User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 02 Jul 2007 09:30:22 PM
"John D. Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

Notice:

Any "proclamation" of yours can be ignored, deleted, snickered at, and/or
abused in complete safety.

"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1183391660.390347.233830@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

On Jul 2, 11:23 am, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:

"Syd M." <pdwrigh...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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BTW, aren't you supposed to be having your trial soon.

[Piggybacking] His trial is not likely to be for another year, given
the backlog apparent from the dockets in Anderson County, SC.

My trial?
Hmmm.
Are you alluding that I own the court?

No.

Did I ask you?

Yes, you did. (If you're that divorced from reality, you need to be put on
the fast track to the state funny farm.)

He is stating the fact that you have been charged with 2
misdemeanors and a felony, and that you will soon be required to
appear in court to defend yourself against those charges.

That isn't what he said.

English obviously isn't your first language.

You know, the one where you "defended" yourself against a cop who was
trying to sedate you.

Cop tried to sedate me?
Are you alluding that cops are licensed to practice medicine?

No, but they are trained to perform paramedic duties.

"Sedation is a medical procedure involving the administration of sedative
drugs, generally to facilitate a medical procedure with local anaesthesia."

Idiot. He's already admitted he meant to write "subdue" instead of "sedate".
Mistakes happen. (You're living proof of that.)

The definition that he was using means to calm you down, which does
NOT require any drugs.

Illiteracy got you down?

It'll likely get you a long time in state-enforced confinement.

And if the cop threatened you, it is usually pretty obvious that you
needed to be threatened in order to get you to comply with the cop's
instructions and requests.

Militaristic SCUMBAG *****.
Your support of threats as prudent are what can harm you.
Read this law, you ignorant treason supporter:
SECTION 16-9-340. Intimidation of court officials, jurors or witnesses. [SC
ST SEC 16-9-340]

[Wentzky's congenital inability to decipher written words]

Threatening me is punishable by law.

If you're so eager to find out how wrong you are, show some backbone and
contact the court - and plead guilty.

The cop who threatened me is guilty.

Given your history, that's about as likely as a blizzard in Anderson in
August.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: October 2007, date/place/opponent TBA
.

User: "Mark Sebree"

Title: Re: Not even baseball safe from 'gay' promotions 02 Jul 2007 01:44:05 PM
On Jul 2, 1:15 pm, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:

"Mark Sebree" <seb...@infionline.net> wrote in message

news:1183391660.390347.233830@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

On Jul 2, 11:23 am, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:

"Syd M." <pdwrigh...@yahoo.com> wrote in message


news:1183387705.210815.22470@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...


BTW, aren't you supposed to be having your trial soon.


[Piggybacking] His trial is not likely to be for another year, given
the backlog apparent from the dockets in Anderson County, SC.


My trial?
Hmmm.
Are you alluding that I own the court?


No.


Did I ask you?

Effectively, you. You posted the question to a public newsgroup,
which means that anyone can answer you.

He is stating the fact that you have been charged with 2
misdemeanors and a felony, and that you will soon be required to
appear in court to defend yourself against those charges.


That isn't what he said.

I was translating it so that you could understand what he said, since
you have shown that you do not understand English very well.
When a person stands trial, the trial is referred to with relation to
that person in the possessive of that person. Thus when he refers to
your trial in the present or future tense, he is referring to your
upcoming trial on the charges with which you are currently under
indictment for.



You know, the one where you "defended" yourself against a cop who was
trying to sedate you.


Cop tried to sedate me?
Are you alluding that cops are licensed to practice medicine?


No, but they are trained to perform paramedic duties.


"Sedation is a medical procedure involving the administration of sedative
drugs, generally to facilitate a medical procedure with local anaesthesia."

And paramedics make use of medical procedures all the time to give the
patient the best chance survive their trauma.
The word that he used was "sedate", not "sedation". There is a
difference in the meanings of the words. You are the one that is
always asking for "verbatim language", not that you understand it, so
you should be able to understand that "sedate" and "sedation" are
different words. In fact, they are not even the same types of words,
"sedate" being a verb and "sedation" being a noun.


The definition that he was using means to calm you down, which does
NOT require any drugs.


Illiteracy got you down?

No, but it has gotten you down. Unlike you, I am not illiterate, and
I understand what I read.


And if the cop threatened you, it is usually pretty obvious that you
needed to be threatened in order to get you to comply with the cop's
instructions and requests.


Militaristic SCUMBAG *****.

That is what you commonly write. You are certainly a scumbag, and
what you write can easily be seen as being ***** by sane and
intelligent people.

Your support of threats as prudent are what can harm you.

No, I do not. However, we are talking about a cop dealing with a
belligerent idiot (that would be you) during a traffic stop. Cops are
authorized to use threats and force to get persons to comply with
their lawful commands. And their lawful commands are actually very
broad.
You can do nothing to harm me. And your own actions will soon enough
bring you harm, just as soon as you stand trial on the charges of
which you have been accused.

Read this law, you ignorant treason supporter:

I am not you. Which means that I am not ignorant, nor am I a
supporter of freedom. Unlike you, I know what treason is, and I know
that it is unlawful to NOT report it to the proper authorities. You
obviously know that I am not supporting treason since you have never
reported me to the FBI or Homeland Security.

SECTION 16-9-340. Intimidation of court officials, jurors or witnesses. [SC
ST SEC 16-9-340]

(A) It is unlawful for a person by threat or force to:

(1) intimidate or impede a judge, magistrate, juror, witness, or potential
juror or witness, arbiter, commissioner, or member of any commission of this
State or any other official of any court, in the discharge of his duty as
such; or

(2) destroy, impede, or attempt to obstruct or impede the administration of
justice in any court.

(B) A person who violates the provisions of subsection (A) is guilty of a
felony and, upon conviction, must be fined not more than ten thousand
dollars or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both."

Inapplicable, since I am not threatening anyone, and you are not a
judge, juror, or witness in your trial. You are the defendant. Also,
it has nothing to do with a cop threatening you to get you to quietly
comply with his lawful commands issued in the course of performing his
duties. The have this authority because they often have to deal with
belligerent and violent people that only understand threats of force.

Threatening me is punishable by law.

But not under that law. You are not part of any category listed under
the law. And you were not threatened in any such capacity listed
under that law when the cop told you to get out of your car in
January. The purpose of the listed law is to interfere with a trial
by tampering with the jury, court officials, or witnesses so that the
defendant cannot get a fair trial, usually by threats or bribery.
Stating that you will stand trial for the charges of which you have
been accused is not a threat, and no legal authority or sane person
would see that as a threat. That is a statement of fact in line with
American jurisprudence. And stating that if the cop threatened you it
is likely that you did or said something that resulted in him thinking
that you had to be threatened to make you comply with his orders
quietly is a statement of reality and based on the knowledge of what a
police officer's job entails as well as knowledge of what the general
guidelines for "necessary force" are.

The cop who threatened me is guilty.

Of trying to do his job. But not for breaking any law. Breaking the
law is what you did when you attacked him, slammed him to the ground,
and tried to pin him.
If you want to accuse him of breaking any law, then you have to cite
the law and explain why it is applicable. The one you cited has
nothing to do with your case.
Mark Sebree
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