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Science > Abortion |
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"J Young" |
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03 Sep 2007 11:28:03 PM |
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NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs |
NOW should change their name to "N(ot) O(ne) W(inner)".
http://www.citizenlink.org/CLBriefs/A000005386.cfm
NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs
The National Organization for Women (NOW) has filed a federal
complaint against three Responsible Fatherhood programs funded by the
U.S. Department of Health and Human Services - for alleged sex
discrimination against women.
The three grantee organizations are Love in the Name of Christ (Love,
INC), Fairbanks, Alaska; Catholic Charities of Idaho; and South Coast
Business Employment Corp., Coos Bay, Ore. NOW complains that women are
excluded from these programs "solely because they are women."
Love, INC was given a five-year grant of $205,834 a year for a
Fatherhood Initiative Project aimed at helping low- and middle-income
fathers improve their economic status through financial and career
counseling and other services.
Executive Director Grant Shimanek said three target groups are
incarcerated fathers and their families, military fathers and fathers
with disabled children. Shimanek said Love, INC has engaged an
Anchorage attorney affiliated with the Alliance Defense Fund and
expects to withstand NOW's legal challenge.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs |
05 Sep 2007 11:37:48 AM |
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J Young <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote:
NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs
What is so wrong with "Parenthood" programs?
Seriously. Why would you rather have *No* programs
at all then programs that are open to all parents?
You're pretty sick.
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| User: "Dustbin" |
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| Title: Re: NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs |
04 Sep 2007 02:11:33 AM |
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J Young wrote:
NOW should change their name to "N(ot) O(ne) W(inner)".
http://www.citizenlink.org/CLBriefs/A000005386.cfm
NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs
The National Organization for Women (NOW) has filed a federal
complaint against three Responsible Fatherhood programs funded by the
U.S. Department of Health and Human Services - for alleged sex
discrimination against women.
The three grantee organizations are Love in the Name of Christ (Love,
INC), Fairbanks, Alaska; Catholic Charities of Idaho; and South Coast
Business Employment Corp., Coos Bay, Ore. NOW complains that women are
excluded from these programs "solely because they are women."
So women can exclude men and have done for forty
years but men must not exclude women. Sadly,
this is the law.
Love, INC was given a five-year grant of $205,834 a year for a
Fatherhood Initiative Project aimed at helping low- and middle-income
fathers improve their economic status through financial and career
counseling and other services.
Executive Director Grant Shimanek said three target groups are
incarcerated fathers and their families, military fathers and fathers
with disabled children. Shimanek said Love, INC has engaged an
Anchorage attorney affiliated with the Alliance Defense Fund and
expects to withstand NOW's legal challenge.
And now those public funds must be watsed
fending off the corrupt attacks of the feminazis.
If the bitches win they will say; there you are
we told you so: men's groups should not be
funded publicly; if they lose they will accuse
the men's groups of wasting public funds on
legal battles.
D.
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Women have spent the last 30 years claiming that
they can do everything men can do AND GESTATE
Objective evidence shows that men can do
everything better than women EXCEPT GESTATE
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs |
04 Sep 2007 06:45:05 AM |
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On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:28:03 -0700, J Young wrote:
The National Organization for Women (NOW) has filed a federal complaint
against three Responsible Fatherhood programs funded by the U.S.
Department of Health and Human Services - for alleged sex discrimination
against women.
Then they should stop discriminating maybe...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Just because it's inexplicted doesn't mean it's inexplicable."
- Dr. House
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs |
04 Sep 2007 07:05:01 AM |
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On Sep 4, 7:45 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:28:03 -0700, J Young wrote:
The National Organization for Women (NOW) has filed a federal complaint
against three Responsible Fatherhood programs funded by the U.S.
Department of Health and Human Services - for alleged sex discrimination
against women.
Then they should stop discriminating maybe...
In order to stop discriminating they would have had to have been
discriminating in the first place.
The funny thing about this is how NOW shrieks about the epidemic of
terrible fathers when it comes time to lobby for more & better custody
for mothers in family court. And now here are organizations dedicated
to improving fathers, and NOW sues them. It sorta lets you know what
NOW's real agenda is and how little concern they actually have for the
quality of fathers.
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| User: "amused onlooker" |
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| Title: Re: NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs |
04 Sep 2007 07:39:56 AM |
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<patrick.barnes@standardregister.com> wrote
On Sep 4, 7:45 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:28:03 -0700, J Young wrote:
The National Organization for Women (NOW) has filed a federal complaint
against three Responsible Fatherhood programs funded by the U.S.
Department of Health and Human Services - for alleged sex
discrimination
against women.
Then they should stop discriminating maybe...
In order to stop discriminating they would have had to have been
discriminating in the first place.
The funny thing about this is how NOW shrieks about the epidemic of
terrible fathers when it comes time to lobby for more & better custody
for mothers in family court. And now here are organizations dedicated
to improving fathers, and NOW sues them. It sorta lets you know what
NOW's real agenda is and how little concern they actually have for the
quality of fathers.
Or for the quality of children's upbringing.
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| User: "Frank Mayhar" |
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| Title: Re: NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs |
04 Sep 2007 08:57:39 AM |
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On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:39:56 +0000, amused onlooker wrote:
<patrick.barnes@standardregister.com> wrote
On Sep 4, 7:45 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:28:03 -0700, J Young wrote:
The National Organization for Women (NOW) has filed a federal
complaint against three Responsible Fatherhood programs funded by
the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services - for alleged sex
discrimination
against women.
Then they should stop discriminating maybe...
In order to stop discriminating they would have had to have been
discriminating in the first place.
The funny thing about this is how NOW shrieks about the epidemic of
terrible fathers when it comes time to lobby for more & better custody
for mothers in family court. And now here are organizations dedicated
to improving fathers, and NOW sues them. It sorta lets you know what
NOW's real agenda is and how little concern they actually have for the
quality of fathers.
Or for the quality of children's upbringing.
Newsgroups: ...,soc.men
*snort*
(Note for the peanut gallery: soc.men is generally where all the sexist,
bigoted assholes hang out, congratulating themselves on their
"superiority" and condemning all women all the time, especially those
uppity women in organizations such as NOW and _most_ especially anyone,
male or female, who opposes their idea of "fathers rights," in which
fathers have all the rights and women have none. Speaking as a father,
they can all go ***** themselves sideways with a rusty bandsaw.)
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
http://www.zazzle.com/fmayhar*
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs |
04 Sep 2007 09:07:41 AM |
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"Frank Mayhar" <> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.09.04.13.57.38@exit.com...
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:39:56 +0000, amused onlooker wrote:
<patrick.barnes@standardregister.com> wrote
On Sep 4, 7:45 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:28:03 -0700, J Young wrote:
The National Organization for Women (NOW) has filed a federal
complaint against three Responsible Fatherhood programs funded by
the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services - for alleged sex
discrimination
against women.
Then they should stop discriminating maybe...
In order to stop discriminating they would have had to have been
discriminating in the first place.
The funny thing about this is how NOW shrieks about the epidemic of
terrible fathers when it comes time to lobby for more & better custody
for mothers in family court. And now here are organizations dedicated
to improving fathers, and NOW sues them. It sorta lets you know what
NOW's real agenda is and how little concern they actually have for the
quality of fathers.
Or for the quality of children's upbringing.
Newsgroups: ...,soc.men
*snort*
(Note for the peanut gallery: soc.men is generally where all the sexist,
bigoted assholes hang out, congratulating themselves on their
"superiority" and condemning all women all the time, especially those
uppity women in organizations such as NOW and _most_ especially anyone,
male or female, who opposes their idea of "fathers rights," in which
fathers have all the rights and women have none. Speaking as a father,
they can all go ***** themselves sideways with a rusty bandsaw.)
You're one screwed up MF if you think fathers have all the rights and women
have none.
What country are you living in?
--
Frank Mayhar http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
http://www.zazzle.com/fmayhar*
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs |
04 Sep 2007 02:33:40 PM |
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"Osprey" <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.09.04.13.57.38@exit.com...
[...]
Newsgroups: ...,soc.men
*snort*
(Note for the peanut gallery: soc.men is generally where all the sexist,
bigoted assholes hang out, congratulating themselves on their
"superiority" and condemning all women all the time, especially those
uppity women in organizations such as NOW and _most_ especially anyone,
male or female, who opposes their idea of "fathers rights," in which
fathers have all the rights and women have none. Speaking as a father,
they can all go ***** themselves sideways with a rusty bandsaw.)
You're one screwed up MF if you think fathers have all the rights and women
have none.
What country are you living in?
You're too stupid to figure it out, Prison Clerk. He's not exactly making a
secret of it, and he's treating you in a more civil manner than you've earned.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 6 vs. Chicago, 7:35
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| User: "Pr0r3p" |
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| Title: Re: NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs |
04 Sep 2007 09:21:45 AM |
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On Sep 4, 10:07 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <fr...@exit.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.09.04.13.57.38@exit.com...
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:39:56 +0000, amused onlooker wrote:
<patrick.bar...@standardregister.com> wrote
On Sep 4, 7:45 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:28:03 -0700, J Young wrote:
The National Organization for Women (NOW) has filed a federal
complaint against three Responsible Fatherhood programs funded by
the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services - for alleged sex
discrimination
against women.
Then they should stop discriminating maybe...
In order to stop discriminating they would have had to have been
discriminating in the first place.
The funny thing about this is how NOW shrieks about the epidemic of
terrible fathers when it comes time to lobby for more & better custody
for mothers in family court. And now here are organizations dedicated
to improving fathers, and NOW sues them. It sorta lets you know what
NOW's real agenda is and how little concern they actually have for the
quality of fathers.
Or for the quality of children's upbringing.
Newsgroups: ...,soc.men
*snort*
(Note for the peanut gallery: soc.men is generally where all the sexist,
bigoted assholes hang out, congratulating themselves on their
"superiority" and condemning all women all the time, especially those
uppity women in organizations such as NOW and _most_ especially anyone,
male or female, who opposes their idea of "fathers rights," in which
fathers have all the rights and women have none. Speaking as a father,
they can all go ***** themselves sideways with a rusty bandsaw.)
You're one screwed up MF if you think fathers have all the rights and women
have none.
What country are you living in?
He's claiming that NOW is asserting that fathers have all the rights
and women have none.
Robert, you really should read carefully before jumping to such an
incorrect assumption.
--
Frank Mayhar fr...@exit.comhttp://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
http://www.zazzle.com/fmayhar*
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs |
04 Sep 2007 09:29:04 AM |
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"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1188915705.830803.112420@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 4, 10:07 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <fr...@exit.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.09.04.13.57.38@exit.com...
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:39:56 +0000, amused onlooker wrote:
<patrick.bar...@standardregister.com> wrote
On Sep 4, 7:45 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:28:03 -0700, J Young wrote:
The National Organization for Women (NOW) has filed a federal
complaint against three Responsible Fatherhood programs funded by
the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services - for alleged sex
discrimination
against women.
Then they should stop discriminating maybe...
In order to stop discriminating they would have had to have been
discriminating in the first place.
The funny thing about this is how NOW shrieks about the epidemic of
terrible fathers when it comes time to lobby for more & better
custody
for mothers in family court. And now here are organizations
dedicated
to improving fathers, and NOW sues them. It sorta lets you know what
NOW's real agenda is and how little concern they actually have for
the
quality of fathers.
Or for the quality of children's upbringing.
Newsgroups: ...,soc.men
*snort*
(Note for the peanut gallery: soc.men is generally where all the
sexist,
bigoted assholes hang out, congratulating themselves on their
"superiority" and condemning all women all the time, especially those
uppity women in organizations such as NOW and _most_ especially anyone,
male or female, who opposes their idea of "fathers rights," in which
fathers have all the rights and women have none. Speaking as a father,
they can all go ***** themselves sideways with a rusty bandsaw.)
You're one screwed up MF if you think fathers have all the rights and
women
have none.
What country are you living in?
He's claiming that NOW is asserting that fathers have all the rights
and women have none.
My fault...
Robert, you really should read carefully before jumping to such an
incorrect assumption.
I said my fault.
I'm a little tired, just got off of a 16 hour shift..so I made a mistake,
I'll apologize to him.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs |
04 Sep 2007 04:51:17 PM |
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In article <_N-dneFh8PEt9kDbnZ2dnUVZ_vWtnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
I'm a little tired, just got off of a 16 hour shift..so I made a mistake,
I'll apologize to him.
were you posting your lies about the new york times as well as your
attempted forgery of their email from work?
--
"New York Times has all ready sent me a response stating you have
been warned."
-- prison clerk heishman lying as "Osprey" <noneedtok...@mail.com>
in news:2rCdnZNy7LA5OojdRVn_iw@comcast.com
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs |
04 Sep 2007 11:29:38 AM |
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On Sep 4, 10:29 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1188915705.830803.112420@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 4, 10:07 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <fr...@exit.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.09.04.13.57.38@exit.com...
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:39:56 +0000, amused onlooker wrote:
<patrick.bar...@standardregister.com> wrote
On Sep 4, 7:45 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:28:03 -0700, J Young wrote:
The National Organization for Women (NOW) has filed a federal
complaint against three Responsible Fatherhood programs funded by
the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services - for alleged sex
discrimination
against women.
Then they should stop discriminating maybe...
In order to stop discriminating they would have had to have been
discriminating in the first place.
The funny thing about this is how NOW shrieks about the epidemic of
terrible fathers when it comes time to lobby for more & better
custody
for mothers in family court. And now here are organizations
dedicated
to improving fathers, and NOW sues them. It sorta lets you know what
NOW's real agenda is and how little concern they actually have for
the
quality of fathers.
Or for the quality of children's upbringing.
Newsgroups: ...,soc.men
*snort*
(Note for the peanut gallery: soc.men is generally where all the
sexist,
bigoted assholes hang out, congratulating themselves on their
"superiority" and condemning all women all the time, especially those
uppity women in organizations such as NOW and _most_ especially anyone,
male or female, who opposes their idea of "fathers rights," in which
fathers have all the rights and women have none. Speaking as a father,
they can all go ***** themselves sideways with a rusty bandsaw.)
You're one screwed up MF if you think fathers have all the rights and
women
have none.
What country are you living in?
He's claiming that NOW is asserting that fathers have all the rights
and women have none.
My fault...
Robert, you really should read carefully before jumping to such an
incorrect assumption.
I said my fault.
I'm a little tired, just got off of a 16 hour shift..so I made a mistake,
I'll apologize to him.-
No, you had it right. He's an idiot and you owe no apology. "Their
idea" in his post refers to fathers' rights activists, not to NOW.
Frank's contention is that NOW's opposition to paternity testing to
make sure fathers are correctly identified, opposition to restricting
fathers' custody, etc is perfectly reasonable and that it is only
sexist bigot men who oppose it.
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| User: "Pr0r3p" |
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| Title: Re: NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs |
04 Sep 2007 09:35:42 AM |
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On Sep 4, 10:29 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1188915705.830803.112420@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 4, 10:07 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <fr...@exit.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.09.04.13.57.38@exit.com...
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:39:56 +0000, amused onlooker wrote:
<patrick.bar...@standardregister.com> wrote
On Sep 4, 7:45 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:28:03 -0700, J Young wrote:
The National Organization for Women (NOW) has filed a federal
complaint against three Responsible Fatherhood programs funded by
the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services - for alleged sex
discrimination
against women.
Then they should stop discriminating maybe...
In order to stop discriminating they would have had to have been
discriminating in the first place.
The funny thing about this is how NOW shrieks about the epidemic of
terrible fathers when it comes time to lobby for more & better
custody
for mothers in family court. And now here are organizations
dedicated
to improving fathers, and NOW sues them. It sorta lets you know what
NOW's real agenda is and how little concern they actually have for
the
quality of fathers.
Or for the quality of children's upbringing.
Newsgroups: ...,soc.men
*snort*
(Note for the peanut gallery: soc.men is generally where all the
sexist,
bigoted assholes hang out, congratulating themselves on their
"superiority" and condemning all women all the time, especially those
uppity women in organizations such as NOW and _most_ especially anyone,
male or female, who opposes their idea of "fathers rights," in which
fathers have all the rights and women have none. Speaking as a father,
they can all go ***** themselves sideways with a rusty bandsaw.)
You're one screwed up MF if you think fathers have all the rights and
women
have none.
What country are you living in?
He's claiming that NOW is asserting that fathers have all the rights
and women have none.
My fault...
Robert, you really should read carefully before jumping to such an
incorrect assumption.
I said my fault.
I'm a little tired, just got off of a 16 hour shift..so I made a mistake,
I'll apologize to him.
After 16 hours, you either need to be sleeping or mainlining coffee...
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs |
04 Sep 2007 09:38:35 AM |
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"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1188916542.669907.318460@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 4, 10:29 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1188915705.830803.112420@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 4, 10:07 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <fr...@exit.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.09.04.13.57.38@exit.com...
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:39:56 +0000, amused onlooker wrote:
<patrick.bar...@standardregister.com> wrote
On Sep 4, 7:45 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:28:03 -0700, J Young wrote:
The National Organization for Women (NOW) has filed a federal
complaint against three Responsible Fatherhood programs funded
by
the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services - for alleged
sex
discrimination
against women.
Then they should stop discriminating maybe...
In order to stop discriminating they would have had to have been
discriminating in the first place.
The funny thing about this is how NOW shrieks about the epidemic
of
terrible fathers when it comes time to lobby for more & better
custody
for mothers in family court. And now here are organizations
dedicated
to improving fathers, and NOW sues them. It sorta lets you know
what
NOW's real agenda is and how little concern they actually have for
the
quality of fathers.
Or for the quality of children's upbringing.
Newsgroups: ...,soc.men
*snort*
(Note for the peanut gallery: soc.men is generally where all the
sexist,
bigoted assholes hang out, congratulating themselves on their
"superiority" and condemning all women all the time, especially
those
uppity women in organizations such as NOW and _most_ especially
anyone,
male or female, who opposes their idea of "fathers rights," in which
fathers have all the rights and women have none. Speaking as a
father,
they can all go ***** themselves sideways with a rusty bandsaw.)
You're one screwed up MF if you think fathers have all the rights and
women
have none.
What country are you living in?
He's claiming that NOW is asserting that fathers have all the rights
and women have none.
My fault...
Robert, you really should read carefully before jumping to such an
incorrect assumption.
I said my fault.
I'm a little tired, just got off of a 16 hour shift..so I made a mistake,
I'll apologize to him.
After 16 hours, you either need to be sleeping or mainlining coffee...
Yea, I know. I'll be going to sleep in a few hours. Right now, watching my
son and waiting for his nap time.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs |
04 Sep 2007 09:50:40 AM |
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On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 07:38:35 -0700, Osprey wrote
(in article <bYOdnXZI06d38EDbnZ2dnUVZ_quhnZ2d@comcast.com>):
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1188916542.669907.318460@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 4, 10:29 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1188915705.830803.112420@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 4, 10:07 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <fr...@exit.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.09.04.13.57.38@exit.com...
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:39:56 +0000, amused onlooker wrote:
<patrick.bar...@standardregister.com> wrote
On Sep 4, 7:45 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:28:03 -0700, J Young wrote:
The National Organization for Women (NOW) has filed a federal
complaint against three Responsible Fatherhood programs funded
by
the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services - for alleged
sex
discrimination
against women.
Then they should stop discriminating maybe...
In order to stop discriminating they would have had to have been
discriminating in the first place.
The funny thing about this is how NOW shrieks about the epidemic
of
terrible fathers when it comes time to lobby for more & better
custody
for mothers in family court. And now here are organizations
dedicated
to improving fathers, and NOW sues them. It sorta lets you know
what
NOW's real agenda is and how little concern they actually have for
the
quality of fathers.
Or for the quality of children's upbringing.
Newsgroups: ...,soc.men
*snort*
(Note for the peanut gallery: soc.men is generally where all the
sexist,
bigoted assholes hang out, congratulating themselves on their
"superiority" and condemning all women all the time, especially
those
uppity women in organizations such as NOW and _most_ especially
anyone,
male or female, who opposes their idea of "fathers rights," in which
fathers have all the rights and women have none. Speaking as a
father,
they can all go ***** themselves sideways with a rusty bandsaw.)
You're one screwed up MF if you think fathers have all the rights and
women
have none.
What country are you living in?
He's claiming that NOW is asserting that fathers have all the rights
and women have none.
My fault...
Robert, you really should read carefully before jumping to such an
incorrect assumption.
I said my fault.
I'm a little tired, just got off of a 16 hour shift..so I made a mistake,
I'll apologize to him.
After 16 hours, you either need to be sleeping or mainlining coffee...
Yea, I know. I'll be going to sleep in a few hours. Right now, watching my
son and waiting for his nap time.
How sad that Osprey makes such little money as a guard he must constantly
work overtime. But still, the hatred, ignorance and bigotry of the right
wing is just too attractive to him.
--
"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the
country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the
people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a
parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can
always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have
to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for
lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."
-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials
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04 Sep 2007 09:48:24 AM |
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On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 07:29:04 -0700, Osprey wrote
(in article <_N-dneFh8PEt9kDbnZ2dnUVZ_vWtnZ2d@comcast.com>):
(Note for the peanut gallery: soc.men is generally where all the
sexist,
bigoted assholes hang out, congratulating themselves on their
"superiority" and condemning all women all the time, especially those
uppity women in organizations such as NOW and _most_ especially anyone,
male or female, who opposes their idea of "fathers rights," in which
fathers have all the rights and women have none. Speaking as a father,
they can all go ***** themselves sideways with a rusty bandsaw.)
You're one screwed up MF if you think fathers have all the rights and
women
have none.
What country are you living in?
He's claiming that NOW is asserting that fathers have all the rights
and women have none.
My fault...
Another "mistake?"
--
Osprey inadvertently admits he supports the BTK Killer.
David Barnes criticized Dennis Rader, the BTK killer. (Rader is a serial
killer and law enforcement officer who tortured his victims for the purposes
of his sexual fantasies. Rader bound, tortured, and killed his victims,
forcing them to experience near-death causing Rader to become sexually
aroused at the sight of their struggles).
Barnes: ³Dennis Rader, the BTK serial killer was in law enforcement. Do you
and [a Delaware State Trooper] respect him?³
Osprey¹s response:
³At least he had the guts to be honest about his lies and crimes.³
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| User: "Andre Lieven" |
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| Title: Re: NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs |
04 Sep 2007 10:47:16 AM |
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On Sep 4, 10:21 am, Pr0r3p <pr0...@yahoo.com> idiotised:
On Sep 4, 10:07 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Frank Mangina" <fr...@excrement.cow> screeched in message
news:pan.2007.09.04.13.57.38@exit.com...
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:39:56 +0000, amused onlooker wrote:
<patrick.bar...@standardregister.com> wrote
On Sep 4, 7:45 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:28:03 -0700, J Young wrote:
The National Organization for Women (NOW) has filed a federal
complaint against three Responsible Fatherhood programs funded by
the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services - for alleged sex
discrimination
against women.
Then they should stop discriminating maybe...
In order to stop discriminating they would have had to have been
discriminating in the first place.
The funny thing about this is how NOW shrieks about the epidemic of
terrible fathers when it comes time to lobby for more & better custody
for mothers in family court. And now here are organizations dedicated
to improving fathers, and NOW sues them. It sorta lets you know what
NOW's real agenda is and how little concern they actually have for the
quality of fathers.
Or for the quality of children's upbringing.
Newsgroups: ...,soc.men
*snort*
(Note for the peanut gallery: soc.men is generally where all the sexist,
bigoted assholes hang out, congratulating themselves on their
"superiority" and condemning all women all the time, especially those
uppity women in organizations such as NOW and _most_ especially anyone,
male or female, who opposes their idea of "fathers rights," in which
fathers have all the rights and women have none. Speaking as a father,
they can all go ***** themselves sideways with a rusty bandsaw.)
You're one screwed up MF if you think fathers have all the rights and women
have none.
What country are you living in?
He's claiming that NOW is asserting that fathers have all the rights
and women have none.
A claim thats belied by many women-ONLY programs that men are
denied. Ergo, its a laughably *false* claim.
Robert, you really should read carefully before jumping to such an
incorrect assumption.
<Massive Sexist Loon Projection>
Andre
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| User: "Frank Mayhar" |
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04 Sep 2007 04:28:32 PM |
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On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 07:21:45 -0700, Pr0r3p wrote:
On Sep 4, 10:07 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <fr...@exit.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.09.04.13.57.38@exit.com...
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:39:56 +0000, amused onlooker wrote:
<patrick.bar...@standardregister.com> wrote
On Sep 4, 7:45 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:28:03 -0700, J Young wrote:
The National Organization for Women (NOW) has filed a federal
complaint against three Responsible Fatherhood programs funded
by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services - for
alleged sex discrimination
against women.
Then they should stop discriminating maybe...
In order to stop discriminating they would have had to have been
discriminating in the first place.
The funny thing about this is how NOW shrieks about the epidemic of
terrible fathers when it comes time to lobby for more & better
custody for mothers in family court. And now here are
organizations dedicated to improving fathers, and NOW sues them.
It sorta lets you know what NOW's real agenda is and how little
concern they actually have for the quality of fathers.
Or for the quality of children's upbringing.
Newsgroups: ...,soc.men
*snort*
(Note for the peanut gallery: soc.men is generally where all the
sexist, bigoted assholes hang out, congratulating themselves on their
"superiority" and condemning all women all the time, especially those
uppity women in organizations such as NOW and _most_ especially
anyone, male or female, who opposes their idea of "fathers rights,"
in which fathers have all the rights and women have none. Speaking
as a father, they can all go ***** themselves sideways with a rusty
bandsaw.)
You're one screwed up MF if you think fathers have all the rights and
women have none.
What country are you living in?
He's claiming that NOW is asserting that fathers have all the rights and
women have none.
Robert, you really should read carefully before jumping to such an
incorrect assumption.
You're both wrong. I said that the "father's rights" idiots have an idea
of "rights" in which fathers hold (and should hold) all the power and in
which women have (and should have) no power.
That's not what they _say_, of course, it's just what they _mean_.
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
http://www.zazzle.com/fmayhar*
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| User: "Andre Lieven" |
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| Title: Re: NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs |
04 Sep 2007 06:30:57 PM |
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On Sep 4, 5:28 pm, Frank Mayhar <fr...@exit.com> wrote:
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 07:21:45 -0700, Pr0r3p wrote:
On Sep 4, 10:07 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <fr...@exit.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.09.04.13.57.38@exit.com...
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:39:56 +0000, amused onlooker wrote:
<patrick.bar...@standardregister.com> wrote
On Sep 4, 7:45 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:28:03 -0700, J Young wrote:
The National Organization for Women (NOW) has filed a federal
complaint against three Responsible Fatherhood programs funded
by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services - for
alleged sex discrimination
against women.
Then they should stop discriminating maybe...
In order to stop discriminating they would have had to have been
discriminating in the first place.
The funny thing about this is how NOW shrieks about the epidemic of
terrible fathers when it comes time to lobby for more & better
custody for mothers in family court. And now here are
organizations dedicated to improving fathers, and NOW sues them.
It sorta lets you know what NOW's real agenda is and how little
concern they actually have for the quality of fathers.
Or for the quality of children's upbringing.
Newsgroups: ...,soc.men
*snort*
(Note for the peanut gallery: soc.men is generally where all the
sexist, bigoted assholes hang out, congratulating themselves on their
"superiority" and condemning all women all the time, especially those
uppity women in organizations such as NOW and _most_ especially
anyone, male or female, who opposes their idea of "fathers rights,"
in which fathers have all the rights and women have none. Speaking
as a father, they can all go ***** themselves sideways with a rusty
bandsaw.)
You're one screwed up MF if you think fathers have all the rights and
women have none.
What country are you living in?
He's claiming that NOW is asserting that fathers have all the rights and
women have none.
Robert, you really should read carefully before jumping to such an
incorrect assumption.
You're both wrong. I said that the "father's rights" idiots have an idea
of "rights" in which fathers hold (and should hold) all the power and in
which women have (and should have) no power.
Indeed. Women should have not one MORE right in such areas as men
do. Otherwise, its... SEXISM. Duh !
That's not what they _say_, of course, it's just what they _mean_.
No proof ever offered ? Deeply insane misandristic lunatic fact free
claim always fails.
Seek professional mental health care for your deep self hatred.
Andre
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs |
05 Sep 2007 06:48:31 AM |
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On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:30:57 -0700, Andre Lieven wrote:
On Sep 4, 5:28 pm, Frank Mayhar <fr...@exit.com> wrote:
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 07:21:45 -0700, Pr0r3p wrote:
On Sep 4, 10:07 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <fr...@exit.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.09.04.13.57.38@exit.com...
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:39:56 +0000, amused onlooker wrote:
<patrick.bar...@standardregister.com> wrote
On Sep 4, 7:45 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:28:03 -0700, J Young wrote:
The National Organization for Women (NOW) has filed a federal
complaint against three Responsible Fatherhood programs
funded by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services -
for alleged sex discrimination
against women.
Then they should stop discriminating maybe...
In order to stop discriminating they would have had to have been
discriminating in the first place.
The funny thing about this is how NOW shrieks about the epidemic
of terrible fathers when it comes time to lobby for more &
better custody for mothers in family court. And now here are
organizations dedicated to improving fathers, and NOW sues them.
It sorta lets you know what NOW's real agenda is and how little
concern they actually have for the quality of fathers.
Or for the quality of children's upbringing.
Newsgroups: ...,soc.men
*snort*
(Note for the peanut gallery: soc.men is generally where all the
sexist, bigoted assholes hang out, congratulating themselves on
their "superiority" and condemning all women all the time,
especially those uppity women in organizations such as NOW and
_most_ especially anyone, male or female, who opposes their idea
of "fathers rights," in which fathers have all the rights and
women have none. Speaking as a father, they can all go *****
themselves sideways with a rusty bandsaw.)
You're one screwed up MF if you think fathers have all the rights
and women have none.
What country are you living in?
He's claiming that NOW is asserting that fathers have all the rights
and women have none.
Robert, you really should read carefully before jumping to such an
incorrect assumption.
You're both wrong. I said that the "father's rights" idiots have an
idea of "rights" in which fathers hold (and should hold) all the power
and in which women have (and should have) no power.
Indeed. Women should have not one MORE right in such areas as men do.
Otherwise, its... SEXISM. Duh !
That's not what they _say_, of course, it's just what they _mean_.
No proof ever offered ? Deeply insane misandristic lunatic fact free
claim always fails.
Skippy, you're providing proof in abundance...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"Oh Log Cabin, full of taste, my stomach is with thee.
Blessed are three among syrups..."
- Homer
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| User: "Andre Lieven" |
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| Title: Re: NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs |
05 Sep 2007 11:34:20 AM |
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On Sep 5, 7:48 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@cow.moron> mewed:
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:30:57 -0700, Andre Lieven wrote:
On Sep 4, 5:28 pm, Frank Mayhar <fr...@exit.com> wrote:
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 07:21:45 -0700, Pr0r3p wrote:
On Sep 4, 10:07 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <fr...@exit.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.09.04.13.57.38@exit.com...
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:39:56 +0000, amused onlooker wrote:
<patrick.bar...@standardregister.com> wrote
On Sep 4, 7:45 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:28:03 -0700, J Young wrote:
The National Organization for Women (NOW) has filed a federal
complaint against three Responsible Fatherhood programs
funded by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services -
for alleged sex discrimination
against women.
Then they should stop discriminating maybe...
In order to stop discriminating they would have had to have been
discriminating in the first place.
The funny thing about this is how NOW shrieks about the epidemic
of terrible fathers when it comes time to lobby for more &
better custody for mothers in family court. And now here are
organizations dedicated to improving fathers, and NOW sues them.
It sorta lets you know what NOW's real agenda is and how little
concern they actually have for the quality of fathers.
Or for the quality of children's upbringing.
Newsgroups: ...,soc.men
*snort*
(Note for the peanut gallery: soc.men is generally where all the
sexist, bigoted assholes hang out, congratulating themselves on
their "superiority" and condemning all women all the time,
especially those uppity women in organizations such as NOW and
_most_ especially anyone, male or female, who opposes their idea
of "fathers rights," in which fathers have all the rights and
women have none. Speaking as a father, they can all go *****
themselves sideways with a rusty bandsaw.)
You're one screwed up MF if you think fathers have all the rights
and women have none.
What country are you living in?
He's claiming that NOW is asserting that fathers have all the rights
and women have none.
Robert, you really should read carefully before jumping to such an
incorrect assumption.
You're both wrong. I said that the "father's rights" idiots have an
idea of "rights" in which fathers hold (and should hold) all the power
and in which women have (and should have) no power.
Indeed. Women should have not one MORE right in such areas as men do.
Otherwise, its... SEXISM. Duh !
That's not what they _say_, of course, it's just what they _mean_.
No proof ever offered ? Deeply insane misandristic lunatic fact free
claim always fails.
Skippy, you're providing proof in abundance...
Of your ham fisted INability to debate/refute the FACTS ?
Excellent ! Thank you for your latest Ad Hominem ONLY
concession.
Andre
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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05 Sep 2007 07:09:03 PM |
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On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 09:34:20 -0700, Andre Lieven wrote:
On Sep 5, 7:48 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@cow.moron> mewed:
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:30:57 -0700, Andre Lieven wrote:
On Sep 4, 5:28 pm, Frank Mayhar <fr...@exit.com> wrote:
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 07:21:45 -0700, Pr0r3p wrote:
On Sep 4, 10:07 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <fr...@exit.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.09.04.13.57.38@exit.com...
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:39:56 +0000, amused onlooker wrote:
<patrick.bar...@standardregister.com> wrote
On Sep 4, 7:45 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:28:03 -0700, J Young wrote:
The National Organization for Women (NOW) has filed a
federal complaint against three Responsible Fatherhood
programs funded by the U.S. Department of Health and Human
Services - for alleged sex discrimination
against women.
Then they should stop discriminating maybe...
In order to stop discriminating they would have had to have
been discriminating in the first place.
The funny thing about this is how NOW shrieks about the
epidemic of terrible fathers when it comes time to lobby for
more & better custody for mothers in family court. And now
here are organizations dedicated to improving fathers, and
NOW sues them. It sorta lets you know what NOW's real agenda
is and how little concern they actually have for the quality
of fathers.
Or for the quality of children's upbringing.
Newsgroups: ...,soc.men
*snort*
(Note for the peanut gallery: soc.men is generally where all
the sexist, bigoted assholes hang out, congratulating
themselves on their "superiority" and condemning all women all
the time, especially those uppity women in organizations such
as NOW and _most_ especially anyone, male or female, who
opposes their idea of "fathers rights," in which fathers have
all the rights and women have none. Speaking as a father, they
can all go ***** themselves sideways with a rusty bandsaw.)
You're one screwed up MF if you think fathers have all the rights
and women have none.
What country are you living in?
He's claiming that NOW is asserting that fathers have all the
rights and women have none.
Robert, you really should read carefully before jumping to such an
incorrect assumption.
You're both wrong. I said that the "father's rights" idiots have an
idea of "rights" in which fathers hold (and should hold) all the
power and in which women have (and should have) no power.
Indeed. Women should have not one MORE right in such areas as men do.
Otherwise, its... SEXISM. Duh !
That's not what they _say_, of course, it's just what they _mean_.
No proof ever offered ? Deeply insane misandristic lunatic fact free
claim always fails.
Skippy, you're providing proof in abundance...
Of your ham fisted INability to debate/refute the FACTS ?
Excellent ! Thank you for your latest Ad Hominem ONLY concession.
That's nice...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"Morality is doing what is right, no matter what you're
told. Religion is doing what you're told, not matter what
is right."
- Jerry Sturdivant
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| User: "pandora" |
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| Title: Re: NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs |
04 Sep 2007 07:25:57 PM |
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On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:30:57 -0700, Andre Lieven wrote:
On Sep 4, 5:28 pm, Frank Mayhar <fr...@exit.com> wrote:
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 07:21:45 -0700, Pr0r3p wrote:
On Sep 4, 10:07 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <fr...@exit.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.09.04.13.57.38@exit.com...
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:39:56 +0000, amused onlooker wrote:
<patrick.bar...@standardregister.com> wrote
On Sep 4, 7:45 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:28:03 -0700, J Young wrote:
The National Organization for Women (NOW) has filed a federal
complaint against three Responsible Fatherhood programs funded
by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services - for
alleged sex discrimination
against women.
Then they should stop discriminating maybe...
In order to stop discriminating they would have had to have been
discriminating in the first place.
The funny thing about this is how NOW shrieks about the epidemic
of terrible fathers when it comes time to lobby for more & better
custody for mothers in family court. And now here are
organizations dedicated to improving fathers, and NOW sues them.
It sorta lets you know what NOW's real agenda is and how little
concern they actually have for the quality of fathers.
Or for the quality of children's upbringing.
Newsgroups: ...,soc.men
*snort*
(Note for the peanut gallery: soc.men is generally where all the
sexist, bigoted assholes hang out, congratulating themselves on
their "superiority" and condemning all women all the time,
especially those uppity women in organizations such as NOW and
_most_ especially anyone, male or female, who opposes their idea of
"fathers rights," in which fathers have all the rights and women
have none. Speaking as a father, they can all go ***** themselves
sideways with a rusty bandsaw.)
You're one screwed up MF if you think fathers have all the rights and
women have none.
What country are you living in?
He's claiming that NOW is asserting that fathers have all the rights
and women have none.
Robert, you really should read carefully before jumping to such an
incorrect assumption.
You're both wrong. I said that the "father's rights" idiots have an
idea of "rights" in which fathers hold (and should hold) all the power
and in which women have (and should have) no power.
Indeed. Women should have not one MORE right in such areas as men do.
Otherwise, its... SEXISM. Duh !
That's not what they _say_, of course, it's just what they _mean_.
No proof ever offered ? Deeply insane misandristic lunatic fact free claim
always fails.
Seek professional mental health care for your deep self hatred.
I'd suggest that you seek help for your insanity but you don't have enough
money for what it would take. Surely there are some FREE asylums that
would be of help to you?
Andre
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| User: "Frank Mayhar" |
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| Title: Re: NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs |
04 Sep 2007 09:59:25 PM |
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Piggybacking because the loon is in my killfile.
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:30:57 -0700, Andre Lieven wrote:
On Sep 4, 5:28 pm, Frank Mayhar <fr...@exit.com> wrote:
You're both wrong. I said that the "father's rights" idiots have an
idea of "rights" in which fathers hold (and should hold) all the power
and in which women have (and should have) no power.
Indeed. Women should have not one MORE right in such areas as men do.
Otherwise, its... SEXISM. Duh !
Yeah, yeah, poor poor pitiful, put-upon, discriminated-against you. We
all know just how hard you white males have it. My heart fucking bleeds
for you.
That's not what they _say_, of course, it's just what they _mean_.
No proof ever offered ? Deeply insane misandristic lunatic fact free
claim always fails.
I'm not making the assertions. I'm just saying you and those like you
are not only so full of ***** that your eyes are brown, but that you've
actually managed to delude yourselves into believing that _you're_ the
ones who are being hurt.
Note that word. Delusion. It's not just for breakfast anymore.
See, like any other religious idiot, you tell me all this crap about how
women are eeevill and, like any other atheist, I tell you I just don't
believe you. Naturally, you have lots of "proof" from your holy books
but not a shred of objective evidence. Just a lot of assertions from a
lot of men whose masculinity feels threatened by women demanding the
right to govern their own lives and those of their children.
Seek professional mental health care for your deep self hatred.
That's almost funny. "Deep self hatred." Um, no. In fact, having come
to fatherhood at a relatively late age, I'm pretty damned happy with my
life. But no matter, it's not like I give even a moments consideration
to what _you_ ignorant, self-deluded fucks think.
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:25:57 -0700, pandora wrote:
I'd suggest that you seek help for your insanity but you don't have
enough money for what it would take. Surely there are some FREE asylums
that would be of help to you?
Not since Reagan, I'm afraid. And I don't think they have any drugs that
will cure the basic problem of ignorant idiocy.
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
http://www.zazzle.com/fmayhar*
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs |
04 Sep 2007 10:44:15 PM |
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Frank Mayhar <frank@exit.com> wrote:
Piggybacking because the loon is in my killfile.
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:30:57 -0700, Andre Lieven wrote:
On Sep 4, 5:28 pm, Frank Mayhar <fr...@exit.com> wrote:
You're both wrong. I said that the "father's rights" idiots have an
idea of "rights" in which fathers hold (and should hold) all the power
and in which women have (and should have) no power.
Indeed. Women should have not one MORE right in such areas as men do.
Otherwise, its... SEXISM. Duh !
Yeah, yeah, poor poor pitiful, put-upon, discriminated-against you. We
all know just how hard you white males have it. My heart fucking bleeds
for you.
So you really don't give a ***** about sexist andf unjust laws?
[...]
See, like any other religious idiot, you tell me all this crap about how
women are eeevill
Strawman.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: NOW Challenges Fatherhood Programs |
05 Sep 2007 06:49:44 AM |
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On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:44:15 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Mayhar <frank@exit.com> wrote:
Piggybacking because the loon is in my killfile.
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:30:57 -0700, Andre Lieven wrote:
On Sep 4, 5:28 pm, Frank Mayhar <fr...@exit.com> wrote:
You're both wrong. I said that the "father's rights" idiots have an
idea of "rights" in which fathers hold (and should hold) all the
power and in which women have (and should have) no power.
Indeed. Women should have not one MORE right in such areas as men do.
Otherwise, its... SEXISM. Duh !
Yeah, yeah, poor poor pitiful, put-upon, discriminated-against you. We
all know just how hard you white males have it. My heart fucking bleeds
for you.
So you really don't give a ***** about sexist andf unjust laws?
Yes. But nobody gives a ***** about the delusions of a bunch of Usenet
wankers...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Warned you we tried! Listen you did not! Now screwed
we will all be!"
http://www.sequentialpictures.com/moviestarwarsepisode3.html
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06 Sep 2007 10:56:49 PM |
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Mark K. Bilbo <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:44:15 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Mayhar <frank@exit.com> wrote:
Piggybacking because the loon is in my killfile.
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:30:57 -0700, Andre Lieven wrote:
On Sep 4, 5:28 pm, Frank Mayhar <fr...@exit.com> wrote:
You're both wrong. I said that the "father's rights" idiots have an
idea of "rights" in which fathers hold (and should hold) all the
power and in which women have (and should have) no power.
Indeed. Women should have not one MORE right in such areas as men do.
Otherwise, its... SEXISM. Duh !
Yeah, yeah, poor poor pitiful, put-upon, discriminated-against you. We
all know just how hard you white males have it. My heart fucking bleeds
for you.
So you really don't give a ***** about sexist andf unjust laws?
Yes.
Unless the victims are men.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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06 Sep 2007 07:21:07 AM |
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On Sep 5, 7:49 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:44:15 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Mayhar <fr...@exit.com> wrote:
Piggybacking because the loon is in my killfile.
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:30:57 -0700, Andre Lieven wrote:
On Sep 4, 5:28 pm, Frank Mayhar <fr...@exit.com> wrote:
You're both wrong. I said that the "father's rights" idiots have an
idea of "rights" in which fathers hold (and should hold) all the
power and in which women have (and should have) no power.
Indeed. Women should have not one MORE right in such areas as men do.
Otherwise, its... SEXISM. Duh !
Yeah, yeah, poor poor pitiful, put-upon, discriminated-against you. We
all know just how hard you white males have it. My heart fucking bleeds
for you.
So you really don't give a ***** about sexist andf unjust laws?
Yes. But nobody gives a ***** about the delusions of a bunch of Usenet
wankers...
Is it a delusion that girls score higher than boys on tests?
Is it a delusion that Title IX eliminates more men's athletic
positions than it creates for women?
Is it a delusion that 10-20% more college students are female?
Is it a delusion that women are awarded sole custody 80% of the time?
Is it a delusion that men can be ordered to pay child support even
when paternity tests show they are not the father?
Is it a delusion that a woman can get a restraining order barring a
man from his home and his children with no evidence required?
Is it a delusion that a man has to go to court to get custody of his
own child after the woman has given it up for adoption or abandoned
it?
Is it a delusion that 40% of divorced women admit to deliberately
interfering with their ex-husand's visitation with his children?
So far you and Frank Mayhar have been pretty handy with the
patronizing and the insulting, but a little light on actually
providing any evidence that father's rights groups don't have
legitimate concerns.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Warned you we tried! Listen you did not! Now screwed
we will all be!"
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06 Sep 2007 10:59:13 AM |
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On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:21:07 -0700, patrick.barnes wrote:
On Sep 5, 7:49 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:44:15 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Mayhar <fr...@exit.com> wrote:
Piggybacking because the loon is in my killfile.
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:30:57 -0700, Andre Lieven wrote:
On Sep 4, 5:28 pm, Frank Mayhar <fr...@exit.com> wrote:
You're both wrong. I said that the "father's rights" idiots have
an idea of "rights" in which fathers hold (and should hold) all
the power and in which women have (and should have) no power.
Indeed. Women should have not one MORE right in such areas as men
do. Otherwise, its... SEXISM. Duh !
Yeah, yeah, poor poor pitiful, put-upon, discriminated-against you.
We all know just how hard you white males have it. My heart fucking
bleeds for you.
So you really don't give a ***** about sexist andf unjust laws?
Yes. But nobody gives a ***** about the delusions of a bunch of Usenet
wankers...
Is it a delusion that girls score higher than boys on tests?
Is it a delusion that Title IX eliminates more men's athletic positions
than it creates for women?
Is it a delusion that 10-20% more college students are female?
Is it a delusion that women are awarded sole custody 80% of the time?
Is it a delusion that men can be ordered to pay child support even when
paternity tests show they are not the father?
Is it a delusion that a woman can get a restraining order barring a man
from his home and his children with no evidence required?
Is it a delusion that a man has to go to court to get custody of his own
child after the woman has given it up for adoption or abandoned it?
Is it a delusion that 40% of divorced women admit to deliberately
interfering with their ex-husand's visitation with his children?
So far you and Frank Mayhar have been pretty handy with the patronizing
and the insulting, but a little light on actually providing any evidence
that father's rights groups don't have legitimate concerns.
That's nice...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"You know, I'd get it if people were just looking for a
way to fill the holes. But they want the holes. They wanna
live in the holes. And they go nuts when someone else
pours dirt in their holes.
"Climb out of your holes people!"
- Dr. House, on faith
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06 Sep 2007 09:02:47 AM |
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On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:21:07 -0700, patrick.barnes wrote:
On Sep 5, 7:49 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:44:15 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Mayhar <fr...@exit.com> wrote:
Piggybacking because the loon is in my killfile.
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:30:57 -0700, Andre Lieven wrote:
On Sep 4, 5:28 pm, Frank Mayhar <fr...@exit.com> wrote:
You're both wrong. I said that the "father's rights" idiots have
an idea of "rights" in which fathers hold (and should hold) all
the power and in which women have (and should have) no power.
Indeed. Women should have not one MORE right in such areas as men
do. Otherwise, its... SEXISM. Duh !
Yeah, yeah, poor poor pitiful, put-upon, discriminated-against you.
We all know just how hard you white males have it. My heart fucking
bleeds for you.
So you really don't give a ***** about sexist andf unjust laws?
Yes. But nobody gives a ***** about the delusions of a bunch of Usenet
wankers...
Is it a delusion that girls score higher than boys on tests?
Yes.
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