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Science > Abortion |
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13 Nov 2007 10:49:19 AM |
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NRLC's flawed endorsement |
I read the material at
http://www.nrlc.org
related to the National Right to Life Committee's endorsement of Fred
Thompson, and it appears that a major component of their endorsement
was Thompson's perceived "ability to win." States the 13 November
2007 NRLC press release, "In making its endorsement, National Right to
Life considered the position of candidates on the life issues, their
records on the life issues and their ability to win."
Reminder to NRLC: there hasn't been *one* primary election yet,
Thompson hasn't won a single primary.
Also, he entered the contest late and hence is the least-tested
individual on the presidential campaign trail.
This perceived "ability to win" probably was based on a 7 October 2007
poll: see the Republican stances PDF linked to from
http://www.nrlc.org
Surely NRLC could have done better than to make an endorsement
apparently based in large part on a 7 October poll.
Tell me, NRLC: is Thompson a pro-life warrior?
What pro-life laws, if any, would a President Fred Thompson push for
passage of?
Are you in favor of, or opposed to, criminalizing family physicians'
performing cranial depression abortions?
What's Thompson's stance on that matter?
Fred Thompson re: abortion on "Meet the Press"
http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/fred-thompson-would-not-ban-abortions
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cranial depression abortion
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=1176471444.004586.146070%40n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com
"This is Abortion" video
http://www.abort73.com/HTML/I-A-4-video.html
Fred Thompson's role in anti-Christian TV show
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1194884207.067667.167660%40o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com
Hugh Hewitt
November 1, 2007
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/HughHewitt/2007/11/01/federalism_matters_--but_to_mike_huckabee__an_interview_with_the_governor?page=full&comments=true
There is no doubt that Mike Huckabee is a pro-life
warrior.
Fred Thompson's appeasement of Dems during impeachment
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1194910034.320754.62810%40k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com
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| User: "George Grapman" |
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| Title: Re: will Romney persuade Bible thumpers to vote for him? |
03 Dec 2007 12:22:38 PM |
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He will have to explain to Catholics and his fellow Mormons why he
accepted support from a man who said both religions are cults.
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| User: "r wiley" |
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| Title: Re: Ron Paul is anti-life re: the cognitively disabled |
14 Nov 2007 08:59:25 PM |
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<dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote in message news:02c71fdc-f092-49f6-b4c3-b65f532b7436@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
A Values Voter Debate was held on 17 September 2007 among Republican
candidates running for President. McCain, Thompson, Romney, and
Giuliani declined to participate-- maybe they thought they could do
without support from 'values voters.'
from page 23 of the transcript PDF
http://valuesvoterdebate.com/downloads/transcript.pdf
linked to from
http://valuesvoterdebate.com
Bobby Schindler: My name is Bobby Schindler. I'm
with the Terry Schindler Schiavo Foundation.
[applause] My beloved sister starved and
dehydrated to death in a land of abundance. While
the world watched-- because she was disabled and
unable to speak for herself. My question is would
you pursue or support legislation that would protect
the cognitively disabled from being dehydrated to
death by having their food and water taken away?
Ron Paul voted NO, the rest of the candidates voted
YES.
Ron Paul's response: No. He was the only Republican at that debate
who gave a 'no' response to Bobby Schindler's question.
So how do you feel about George W. Bush and his "Texas Futile Care Law"?
rw
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| User: "Mitchell Holman" |
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| Title: Re: Terri Schindler Schiavo strongly wanted to live |
27 Nov 2007 04:29:48 PM |
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wrote in
news:6147d3ad-662b-42b1-8ead-0eaaca70cce2@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
Q: If you were in 1938 Nazi Germany, would you have opposed or
supported the killing of Baby Knauer?
A: "Opposed."
On what basis/ grounds?
1997 Wesley Smith on Germany's slippery slope slide from devaluing
some human life to a little euthanasia/ killing to mass killings
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3abe1cF6ac7t2U1%40individual.
net 1979 Schaeffer & Koop on the a-moral implications of atheism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0504061225.4c675814%
40posting.google.com
"ending the keeping of a dead woman artificially alive"
Terri Schindler Schiavo wasn't in a 'PVS'
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1115683914.394927.244340%40f1
4g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
http://www.standardnewswire.com/news/887931879.html
http://www.terrisfight.org/pages.php?page_id=37
"against the will of her"
Terri had an extremely strong will to live, as shown by the fact that
she survived for 13 days without water. If she'd wanted to die, she
would have died days earlier in response to the imposed dehydration.
Where is your outrage over the death of Sun Hudson,
whose life was ended under the law that Bush signed,
letting hospitals pull the plug on infant lift support
if no one was willing to pay the bill?
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| User: "Mitchell Holman" |
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| Title: Re: Terri Schindler Schiavo strongly wanted to live |
03 Dec 2007 09:55:55 PM |
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wrote in
news:d4130c05-f317-4734-b49f-9cbbcfcf8939@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
On Nov 27, 5:29 pm, Mitchell Holman <Noem...@comcast.com> wrote:
dfo...@gl.umbc.edu wrote in
news:6147d3ad-662b-42b1-8ead-0eaaca70cce2@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
Terri had an extremely strong will to live, as shown by the fact that
she survived for 13 days without water. If she'd wanted to die, she
would have died days earlier in response to the imposed dehydration.
Where is your outrage over the death of Sun Hudson, whose life was
ended under the law that Bush signed,
letting hospitals pull the plug on infant lift support
if no one was willing to pay the bill?
Nonexistent.
Houston Mother Loses Fight To Keep Baby On Life Support
HOUSTON -- A critically ill baby at the center of a lengthy
court battle died Tuesday shortly after being removed from
life support at a Houston hosptal.
A judge in Houston on Monday lifted an injunction the mother
had won that prevented doctors from halting the care they
believed was futile.
Wanda Hudson unsuccessfully fought to continue the medical
care for her 5-month-old son, Sun. The boy was diagnosed with
a fatal genetic disorder that left him with a tiny chest and
lungs that were too small to support life.
Hudson said her son just needed time to grow and to be weaned
off of the ventilator he was on since birth. She described the
final moments of her baby's life.
"He opened his eyes while he was in my arms, before they took
him off the ventilator. He smiled. He moved his tongue, actually
his whole body. And I feel like they took him off too soon," she
told KPRC-TV in Houston. Hudson said she wants an autopsy to
determine if her baby really had a fatal genetic disorder.
"This is murder. I am not sugar coating. It's murder," Hudson said.
"I cried, and it wasn't because that they were moving him off the
ventilator ... they are trying to tear down my trust in the sun
above."
http://www.nbc5.com/health/4286333/detail.html
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The law that allowed hospital to pull the plug on patients who
don't have medical insurance was signed by....George Bush.
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| User: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" |
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| Title: Re: Ron Paul is anti-life re: the cognitively disabled |
14 Nov 2007 09:26:17 PM |
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In message news:02c71fdc-f092-49f6-b4c3-
b65f532b7436@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com, sprach forth the following:
Bobby Schindler: My name is Bobby Schindler. I'm
with the Terry Schindler Schiavo Foundation.
[applause] My beloved sister starved and
dehydrated to death in a land of abundance. While
the world watched-- because she was disabled and
unable to speak for herself. My question is would
you pursue or support legislation that would protect
the cognitively disabled from being dehydrated to
death by having their food and water taken away?
Ron Paul voted NO, the rest of the candidates voted
YES.
Ron Paul's response: No. He was the only Republican at that debate
who gave a 'no' response to Bobby Schindler's question.
Not a federal issue.
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| User: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" |
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| Title: Re: hate groups backing Ron Paul |
20 Nov 2007 12:59:18 PM |
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Here's a chore for you:
1. Read the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
2. Copy and paste a section - any section - of it here.
3. Explain what it actually does.
4. Explain why you think what it does will improve the US.
Then you'll get my answer.
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| User: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" |
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| Title: Re: hate groups backing Ron Paul |
19 Nov 2007 10:52:49 AM |
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In message
news:3985a9f1-3c93-4f26-a934-7f533016f69e@c29g2000hsa.googlegroups.com,
sprach forth the following:
On Nov 14, Fred Garvin in Re: Ron Paul is anti-life re: the
cognitively disabled:
df in
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1194894277.278146.95010%4057g2000h
sv.googlegroups.com
Bobby Schindler: My name is Bobby Schindler. I'm
with the Terry Schindler Schiavo Foundation.
[applause] My beloved sister starved and
dehydrated to death in a land of abundance. While
the world watched-- because she was disabled and
unable to speak for herself. My question is would
you pursue or support legislation that would protect
the cognitively disabled from being dehydrated to
death by having their food and water taken away?
Ron Paul voted NO, the rest of the candidates voted
YES.
Ron Paul's response: No. He was the only Republican at that debate
who gave a 'no' response to Bobby Schindler's question.
Not a federal issue.
Ron Paul opposes the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
Do you oppose the Civil Rights Act of 1964?
Can't win on Schiavo so you want to change the subject? Lame.
plonk
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| User: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" |
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| Title: Re: hate groups backing Ron Paul |
20 Nov 2007 07:12:03 AM |
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In message news:3985a9f1-3c93-4f26-a934-
7f533016f69e@c29g2000hsa.googlegroups.com, sprach forth the following:
Ron Paul opposes the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
Do you oppose the Civil Rights Act of 1964?
Here's a chore for you:
1. Read the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
2. Copy and paste a section - any section - of it here.
3. Explain what it actually does.
4. Explain why you thik what it does will improve the US.
Then you'll get my answer.
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: hate groups backing Ron Paul |
20 Nov 2007 07:21:04 AM |
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"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" <nospam@whitehouse.gov> wrote in message
news:Xns99EE536CDACA0FredGarvin@66.250.146.128...
In message news:3985a9f1-3c93-4f26-a934-
7f533016f69e@c29g2000hsa.googlegroups.com, sprach forth the following:
Ron Paul opposes the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
Do you oppose the Civil Rights Act of 1964?
Here's a chore for you:
1. Read the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
2. Copy and paste a section - any section - of it here.
3. Explain what it actually does.
4. Explain why you thik what it does will improve the US.
Then you'll get my answer.
Here ya go...
"Title VII also prohibits discrimination against an individual because of
his or her association with another individual of a particular race, color,
religion, sex, or national origin."
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| User: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee reply to taxes & immigration criticism |
27 Nov 2007 06:41:37 AM |
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In message news:ad11e54f-feb8-4226-8c95-
14922deafb32@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com, sprach forth the following:
It's time for Christian conservatives to unite behind Mike
Huckabee - the only candidate shown to be consistent with the values
of the Christian community.
Apparently this cretin is unfamiliar with the Christian concept of Just
War.
Also he must feel like theft is Christian, and oppression, and conspiracy.
The Huckster is a tax-and-spend warmongering CFR putz. His 15 minutes are
up - nobody's sending him a dollar. Go home Mike. And have a Big Mac with
Clinton.
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| User: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" |
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| Title: Re: Evangelical Outpost endorsed Huckabee |
03 Dec 2007 10:15:17 AM |
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In message news:1d8e3ba5-6ed3-4da7-8197-
2a0424d47b0e@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, sprach forth the following:
We
hope that you will join us in careful deliberation of
Gov. Huckabee's candidacy
http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2007/cbarchive_20071102.html
According to an opinion piece written by John Fund in the Wall Street
Journal, "Paul Pressler, a former Texas judge who led the conservative
Southern Baptist revolt, told me, 'I know of no conservative he [Huckabee]
appointed while he headed the Arkansas Baptist Convention.'"
Fund went on to say that "Mr. Huckabee's reluctance to surround himself
with conservatives was evident as governor, when he kept many agency heads
appointed by Bill Clinton."
Fund also said this about Huckabee: "'He's just like Bill Clinton in that
he practices management by news cycle,' a former top Huckabee aide told me.
'As with Clinton there was no long-term planning, just putting out fires on
a daily basis. One thing I'll guarantee is that won't lead to competent
conservative governance.'"
Mike Huckabee is also terrible on immigration. According to Jim Boulet,
Jr., executive director of English First, "Rudy Giuliani spent years
defending the right of New York City to remain a sanctuary for illegal
aliens. Yet Giuliani was a veritable Lou Dobbs Jr. on illegal immigration
in comparison to Mike Huckabee."
Regarding Huckabee's stance on immigration, Mr. Minton said, "Until of
late, he has been an open-borders guy on immigration--amnesty, the whole
works. As governor, he wanted to give free college scholarships to all
illegals."
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