Science > Abortion > Number of Saved Babies is UP! New Survey Shows a Fundamental Shift in Abortion Attitudes
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Number of Saved Babies is UP! New Survey Shows a Fundamental Shift in Abortion Attitudes |
http://operationrescue.org/
Number of Saved Babies is UP! New Survey Shows a Fundamental Shift in
Abortion Attitudes
[An AP article published Dec. 19, 2005, indicates that more women who view
their pregnancies as "unwanted" at the time of conception are changing their
attitudes about their pre-born children and are giving birth instead of
aborting. This, coupled with the latest statistics that indicate that the
numbers of abortions are falling in the U.S. indicate, as we have been
saying for almost two years, that there is a fundamental shift occurring in
our nation's attitude about abortion. Pro-lifers are winning the day!
The title of the article below is somewhat misleading because it erroneously
indicates that the babies were unwanted at birth. It could have been more
accurately titled: "Number of Babies Saved from Abortion is UP." We doubt
that any of the babies were actually unwanted at the time of birth. By then,
the mothers' attitudes about their babies had obviously changed.
We attribute this shift away from child-killing to primarily two
developments: the advent of ultrasound imaging technology and the public use
of graphic abortion images. Now, the average American is being exposed to
both the reality of the humanity of the innocent child in the womb as well
as the gruesome truth about what abortion does to that innocent child. This
is making America more and more pro-life. As the societal attitudes continue
to shift, the laws restoring legal protections to the pre-born are sure to
follow.
The article also mentions that there is a decline in the number of
abortionists in America. More and more abortionists are quitting - or having
their licenses revoked, as we have reported recently - and few are taking
their places. This is another victory for pro-lifers, whose prayers and hard
work are paying off in the tangible dividends of closed abortion mills and
saved babies.
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"Honesty, Integrity, Compassion, and Decency"
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11 Jan 2006 09:53:47 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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http://operationrescue.org/
Number of Saved Babies is UP! New Survey Shows a Fundamental Shift in
Abortion Attitudes
Are you indoctrinating the mothers so they can follow this example?
http://crime.about.com/od/current/p/andreayates.htm
From the page:
"Michael Woroniecki was a traveling minister from whom Rusty
purchased their bus and whose religious views had influenced both Rusty
and Andrea. Rusty only agreed with some of Woroniecki's ideas but Andrea
embraced the extremist sermons. He preached, "the role of women is
derived from the sin of Eve and that bad mothers who are going to hell
create bad children who will go to hell." Andrea was so totally
captivated by Woroniecki that Rusty and Andrea's family grew concerned."
David H.
aa #2217
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11 Jan 2006 08:48:14 AM |
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Charter member of Operation Schizophrenic, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote in message
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http://operationrescue.org/
Number of Saved Babies is UP!
"Operation Rescue"?
Sheesh...
"If you are going to quote a source as fact, please make sure it is a
reputable one. Thankyou."
From: "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
Message-ID: <soadnTLhfJOaelzenZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d@giganews.com>
LC~ Spanking "J" with his own hypocrisy.
"I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over you. I want you
to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good...Our goal is a
Christian nation. We have a Biblical duty, we are called by God, to
conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism."
~ Randall Terry, Founder of Operation Rescue, almost as looney as "J Young".
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11 Jan 2006 02:28:35 PM |
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"If you are going to quote a source as fact, please make sure it is a
reputable one. Thankyou."
From: "J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com>
Young's definition of reputable: "Any source that agrees with me."
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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11 Jan 2006 09:46:25 AM |
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In article <dq35rj0l0s@enews3.newsguy.com>, LC <LCisnot@this.com> wrote:
Charter member of Operation Schizophrenic, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote in message
news:HZydnWCKoOj0PVneRVn-sA@giganews.com...
http://operationrescue.org/
Number of Saved Babies is UP!
"Operation Rescue"?
Sheesh...
Plus he is wrong.
Under President Clinton, abortions decreased. When Bush took office,
the nation's abortion rates were at a 24-year low, after a 17.4%
decline during the 1990s. This was an average decrease of 1.7% per
year, mostly during the latter part of the decade. (This data comes
from Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life using the Guttmacher
Institute's studies).
Enter George W. Bush in 2001. The "pro-life" would expect the abortion
rate to continue its consistent course downward, if not plunge.
Instead, the opposite happened.
We need only look to the three states that have posted multi-year
statistics through 2003, and abortion rates have risen in all three:
Kentucky's increased by 3.2% from 2000 to 2003. Michigan's increased by
11.3% from 2000 to 2003. Pennsylvania's increased by 1.9% from 1999 to
2002. 13 additional states that reported statistics for 2001 and 2002.
Eight states saw an increase in abortion rates (14.6% average
increase), and five saw a decrease (4.3% average decrease).
Under President Bush, the decade-long trend of declining abortion rates
has reversed. Given the trends of the 1990s, 52,000 more abortions
occurred in the United States in 2002 than would have been expected
before this change of direction.
But the Republicans, their hearts filled with hate and bigotry,
claiming to be "pro-life," continue to vote the way they are told.
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| User: "LC" |
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11 Jan 2006 10:57:05 AM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:110120060746252665%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <dq35rj0l0s@enews3.newsguy.com>, LC <LCisnot@this.com> wrote:
Charter member of Operation Schizophrenic, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:HZydnWCKoOj0PVneRVn-sA@giganews.com...
http://operationrescue.org/
Number of Saved Babies is UP!
"Operation Rescue"?
Sheesh...
Plus he is wrong.
You think? <g>
Under President Clinton, abortions decreased. When Bush took office,
the nation's abortion rates were at a 24-year low, after a 17.4%
decline during the 1990s. This was an average decrease of 1.7% per
year, mostly during the latter part of the decade. (This data comes
from Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life using the Guttmacher
Institute's studies).
Enter George W. Bush in 2001. The "pro-life" would expect the abortion
rate to continue its consistent course downward, if not plunge.
Instead, the opposite happened.
We need only look to the three states that have posted multi-year
statistics through 2003, and abortion rates have risen in all three:
Kentucky's increased by 3.2% from 2000 to 2003. Michigan's increased by
11.3% from 2000 to 2003. Pennsylvania's increased by 1.9% from 1999 to
2002. 13 additional states that reported statistics for 2001 and 2002.
Eight states saw an increase in abortion rates (14.6% average
increase), and five saw a decrease (4.3% average decrease).
Under President Bush, the decade-long trend of declining abortion rates
has reversed. Given the trends of the 1990s, 52,000 more abortions
occurred in the United States in 2002 than would have been expected
before this change of direction.
But the Republicans, their hearts filled with hate and bigotry,
claiming to be "pro-life," continue to vote the way they are told.
All this demonstrates what I have slowly come to believe: Despite Shrub
stacking the SCOTUS with his boys, and all their lip service about 'sanctity
of life', they'll never actually attempt to overturn RvW.
The issue is *far* too big of a cash cow for their coffers, and it (along
with the 'gay marriage' issue) remains the calling card for the
semi-literate bigots and fundies the repub's have cultivated so actively.
As an added bonus, it diverts attention from matters that will have a
*far greater* impact on the electorate:
*Record deficits, putting pressure on interest rates and the dollar
*Loss of manufacturing, and the erosion of the middle class
*Health care and pension systems that are teetering on the edge of disaster
*The dramatic fall in world opinion of the US, thanks to Shrub's epic
mis-management of foreign policy (not to mention pretty much everything else
he's put his hands on).
Just to name a few...
LC~ Heavily invested offshore.
"A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence."~David Hume
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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11 Jan 2006 08:53:36 PM |
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In article <dq3dd60tft@enews3.newsguy.com>, LC <LCisnot@this.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:110120060746252665%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <dq35rj0l0s@enews3.newsguy.com>, LC <LCisnot@this.com> wrote:
Charter member of Operation Schizophrenic, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:HZydnWCKoOj0PVneRVn-sA@giganews.com...
http://operationrescue.org/
Number of Saved Babies is UP!
"Operation Rescue"?
Sheesh...
Plus he is wrong.
You think? <g>
Under President Clinton, abortions decreased. When Bush took office,
the nation's abortion rates were at a 24-year low, after a 17.4%
decline during the 1990s. This was an average decrease of 1.7% per
year, mostly during the latter part of the decade. (This data comes
from Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life using the Guttmacher
Institute's studies).
Enter George W. Bush in 2001. The "pro-life" would expect the abortion
rate to continue its consistent course downward, if not plunge.
Instead, the opposite happened.
We need only look to the three states that have posted multi-year
statistics through 2003, and abortion rates have risen in all three:
Kentucky's increased by 3.2% from 2000 to 2003. Michigan's increased by
11.3% from 2000 to 2003. Pennsylvania's increased by 1.9% from 1999 to
2002. 13 additional states that reported statistics for 2001 and 2002.
Eight states saw an increase in abortion rates (14.6% average
increase), and five saw a decrease (4.3% average decrease).
Under President Bush, the decade-long trend of declining abortion rates
has reversed. Given the trends of the 1990s, 52,000 more abortions
occurred in the United States in 2002 than would have been expected
before this change of direction.
But the Republicans, their hearts filled with hate and bigotry,
claiming to be "pro-life," continue to vote the way they are told.
All this demonstrates what I have slowly come to believe: Despite Shrub
stacking the SCOTUS with his boys, and all their lip service about 'sanctity
of life', they'll never actually attempt to overturn RvW.
The issue is *far* too big of a cash cow for their coffers, and it (along
with the 'gay marriage' issue) remains the calling card for the
semi-literate bigots and fundies the repub's have cultivated so actively.
As an added bonus, it diverts attention from matters that will have a
*far greater* impact on the electorate:
*Record deficits, putting pressure on interest rates and the dollar
*Loss of manufacturing, and the erosion of the middle class
*Health care and pension systems that are teetering on the edge of disaster
*The dramatic fall in world opinion of the US, thanks to Shrub's epic
mis-management of foreign policy (not to mention pretty much everything else
he's put his hands on).
Just to name a few...
LC~ Heavily invested offshore.
"A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence."~David Hume
You have it. The Republicans would be screwed without abortion. The
Right Wing whackos would stop supporting them.
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| User: "Brutus" |
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11 Jan 2006 10:53:30 AM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:110120060746252665%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <dq35rj0l0s@enews3.newsguy.com>, LC <LCisnot@this.com> wrote:
Charter member of Operation Schizophrenic, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote in message
news:HZydnWCKoOj0PVneRVn-sA@giganews.com...
http://operationrescue.org/
Number of Saved Babies is UP!
"Operation Rescue"?
Sheesh...
Plus he is wrong.
Under President Clinton, abortions decreased. When Bush took office,
the nation's abortion rates were at a 24-year low, after a 17.4%
decline during the 1990s. This was an average decrease of 1.7% per
year, mostly during the latter part of the decade. (This data comes
from Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life using the Guttmacher
Institute's studies).
Enter George W. Bush in 2001. The "pro-life" would expect the abortion
rate to continue its consistent course downward, if not plunge.
Instead, the opposite happened.
We need only look to the three states that have posted multi-year
statistics through 2003, and abortion rates have risen in all three:
Kentucky's increased by 3.2% from 2000 to 2003. Michigan's increased by
11.3% from 2000 to 2003. Pennsylvania's increased by 1.9% from 1999 to
2002. 13 additional states that reported statistics for 2001 and 2002.
Eight states saw an increase in abortion rates (14.6% average
increase), and five saw a decrease (4.3% average decrease).
Under President Bush, the decade-long trend of declining abortion rates
has reversed. Given the trends of the 1990s, 52,000 more abortions
occurred in the United States in 2002 than would have been expected
before this change of direction.
But the Republicans, their hearts filled with hate and bigotry,
claiming to be "pro-life," continue to vote the way they are told.
I'll listen when you cite CDC.
Brutus
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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11 Jan 2006 08:53:35 PM |
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In article <eKaxf.1411$ee6.421@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
Brutus <brutus@dnc.orb> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:110120060746252665%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <dq35rj0l0s@enews3.newsguy.com>, LC <LCisnot@this.com> wrote:
Charter member of Operation Schizophrenic, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote in message
news:HZydnWCKoOj0PVneRVn-sA@giganews.com...
http://operationrescue.org/
Number of Saved Babies is UP!
"Operation Rescue"?
Sheesh...
Plus he is wrong.
Under President Clinton, abortions decreased. When Bush took office,
the nation's abortion rates were at a 24-year low, after a 17.4%
decline during the 1990s. This was an average decrease of 1.7% per
year, mostly during the latter part of the decade. (This data comes
from Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life using the Guttmacher
Institute's studies).
Enter George W. Bush in 2001. The "pro-life" would expect the abortion
rate to continue its consistent course downward, if not plunge.
Instead, the opposite happened.
We need only look to the three states that have posted multi-year
statistics through 2003, and abortion rates have risen in all three:
Kentucky's increased by 3.2% from 2000 to 2003. Michigan's increased by
11.3% from 2000 to 2003. Pennsylvania's increased by 1.9% from 1999 to
2002. 13 additional states that reported statistics for 2001 and 2002.
Eight states saw an increase in abortion rates (14.6% average
increase), and five saw a decrease (4.3% average decrease).
Under President Bush, the decade-long trend of declining abortion rates
has reversed. Given the trends of the 1990s, 52,000 more abortions
occurred in the United States in 2002 than would have been expected
before this change of direction.
But the Republicans, their hearts filled with hate and bigotry,
claiming to be "pro-life," continue to vote the way they are told.
I'll listen when you cite CDC.
Or Fox "NEWS" I suppose.
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| User: "ۥR.L.Measures" |
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12 Jan 2006 03:21:19 AM |
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In article <110120061853352275%dbarnes@aol.com>, "David W. Barnes"
<dbarnes@aol.com> wrote:
In article <eKaxf.1411$ee6.421@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
Brutus <brutus@dnc.orb> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:110120060746252665%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <dq35rj0l0s@enews3.newsguy.com>, LC <LCisnot@this.com> wrote:
...
Under President Clinton, abortions decreased. When Bush took office,
the nation's abortion rates were at a 24-year low, after a 17.4%
decline during the 1990s. This was an average decrease of 1.7% per
year, mostly during the latter part of the decade. (This data comes
from Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life using the Guttmacher
Institute's studies).
Enter George W. Bush in 2001. The "pro-life" would expect the abortion
rate to continue its consistent course downward, if not plunge.
Instead, the opposite happened.
We need only look to the three states that have posted multi-year
statistics through 2003, and abortion rates have risen in all three:
Kentucky's increased by 3.2% from 2000 to 2003. Michigan's increased by
11.3% from 2000 to 2003. Pennsylvania's increased by 1.9% from 1999 to
2002. 13 additional states that reported statistics for 2001 and 2002.
Eight states saw an increase in abortion rates (14.6% average
increase), and five saw a decrease (4.3% average decrease).
Under President Bush, the decade-long trend of declining abortion rates
has reversed. Given the trends of the 1990s, 52,000 more abortions
occurred in the United States in 2002 than would have been expected
before this change of direction.
But the Republicans, their hearts filled with hate and bigotry,
claiming to be "pro-life," continue to vote the way they are told.
I'll listen when you cite CDC.
Or Fox "NEWS" I suppose.
€€ Some call it Faux News.
--
€ R.L.Measures, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
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| User: "Brutus" |
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12 Jan 2006 10:19:09 AM |
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"?.R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r_-1201060121190001@192.168.1.101...
In article <110120061853352275%dbarnes@aol.com>, "David W. Barnes"
<dbarnes@aol.com> wrote:
In article <eKaxf.1411$ee6.421@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
Brutus <brutus@dnc.orb> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:110120060746252665%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <dq35rj0l0s@enews3.newsguy.com>, LC <LCisnot@this.com>
wrote:
...
Under President Clinton, abortions decreased. When Bush took office,
the nation's abortion rates were at a 24-year low, after a 17.4%
decline during the 1990s. This was an average decrease of 1.7% per
year, mostly during the latter part of the decade. (This data comes
from Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life using the Guttmacher
Institute's studies).
Enter George W. Bush in 2001. The "pro-life" would expect the abortion
rate to continue its consistent course downward, if not plunge.
Instead, the opposite happened.
We need only look to the three states that have posted multi-year
statistics through 2003, and abortion rates have risen in all three:
Kentucky's increased by 3.2% from 2000 to 2003. Michigan's increased
by
11.3% from 2000 to 2003. Pennsylvania's increased by 1.9% from 1999 to
2002. 13 additional states that reported statistics for 2001 and
2002.
Eight states saw an increase in abortion rates (14.6% average
increase), and five saw a decrease (4.3% average decrease).
Under President Bush, the decade-long trend of declining abortion
rates
has reversed. Given the trends of the 1990s, 52,000 more abortions
occurred in the United States in 2002 than would have been expected
before this change of direction.
But the Republicans, their hearts filled with hate and bigotry,
claiming to be "pro-life," continue to vote the way they are told.
I'll listen when you cite CDC.
Or Fox "NEWS" I suppose.
?? Some call it Faux News.
Some are idiots.
Brutus
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Number of Saved Babies is UP! New Survey Shows a Fundamental Shift in Abortion Attitudes |
12 Jan 2006 10:56:48 AM |
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Brutus <brutus@dnc.orb> wrote:
"?.R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r_-1201060121190001@192.168.1.101...
In article <110120061853352275%dbarnes@aol.com>, "David W. Barnes"
<dbarnes@aol.com> wrote:
In article <eKaxf.1411$ee6.421@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
Brutus <brutus@dnc.orb> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:110120060746252665%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <dq35rj0l0s@enews3.newsguy.com>, LC <LCisnot@this.com>
wrote:
...
Under President Clinton, abortions decreased. When Bush took office,
the nation's abortion rates were at a 24-year low, after a 17.4%
decline during the 1990s. This was an average decrease of 1.7% per
year, mostly during the latter part of the decade. (This data comes
from Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life using the Guttmacher
Institute's studies).
Enter George W. Bush in 2001. The "pro-life" would expect the abortion
rate to continue its consistent course downward, if not plunge.
Instead, the opposite happened.
We need only look to the three states that have posted multi-year
statistics through 2003, and abortion rates have risen in all three:
Kentucky's increased by 3.2% from 2000 to 2003. Michigan's increased
by
11.3% from 2000 to 2003. Pennsylvania's increased by 1.9% from 1999 to
2002. 13 additional states that reported statistics for 2001 and
2002.
Eight states saw an increase in abortion rates (14.6% average
increase), and five saw a decrease (4.3% average decrease).
Under President Bush, the decade-long trend of declining abortion
rates
has reversed. Given the trends of the 1990s, 52,000 more abortions
occurred in the United States in 2002 than would have been expected
before this change of direction.
But the Republicans, their hearts filled with hate and bigotry,
claiming to be "pro-life," continue to vote the way they are told.
I'll listen when you cite CDC.
Or Fox "NEWS" I suppose.
?? Some call it Faux News.
Some are idiots.
Generally the people who watch Faux News.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "ۥR.L.Measures" |
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12 Jan 2006 04:37:12 PM |
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In article <1kvxf.1811$ee6.1350@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Brutus" <brutus@dnc.orb> wrote:
"?.R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r_-1201060121190001@192.168.1.101...
In article <110120061853352275%dbarnes@aol.com>, "David W. Barnes"
<dbarnes@aol.com> wrote:
In article <eKaxf.1411$ee6.421@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
Brutus <brutus@dnc.orb> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:110120060746252665%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <dq35rj0l0s@enews3.newsguy.com>, LC <LCisnot@this.com>
wrote:
...
Under President Clinton, abortions decreased. When Bush took office,
the nation's abortion rates were at a 24-year low, after a 17.4%
decline during the 1990s. This was an average decrease of 1.7% per
year, mostly during the latter part of the decade. (This data comes
from Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life using the Guttmacher
Institute's studies).
Enter George W. Bush in 2001. The "pro-life" would expect the abortion
rate to continue its consistent course downward, if not plunge.
Instead, the opposite happened.
We need only look to the three states that have posted multi-year
statistics through 2003, and abortion rates have risen in all three:
Kentucky's increased by 3.2% from 2000 to 2003. Michigan's increased
by
11.3% from 2000 to 2003. Pennsylvania's increased by 1.9% from 1999 to
2002. 13 additional states that reported statistics for 2001 and
2002.
Eight states saw an increase in abortion rates (14.6% average
increase), and five saw a decrease (4.3% average decrease).
Under President Bush, the decade-long trend of declining abortion
rates
has reversed. Given the trends of the 1990s, 52,000 more abortions
occurred in the United States in 2002 than would have been expected
before this change of direction.
But the Republicans, their hearts filled with hate and bigotry,
claiming to be "pro-life," continue to vote the way they are told.
I'll listen when you cite CDC.
Or Fox "NEWS" I suppose.
?? Some call it Faux News.
Some are idiots.
Brutus
** a tender nerve lies behind the bull's-eye.
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11 Jan 2006 10:45:22 PM |
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 02:53:35 GMT, "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com>
wrote:
In article <eKaxf.1411$ee6.421@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
Brutus <brutus@dnc.orb> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:110120060746252665%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <dq35rj0l0s@enews3.newsguy.com>, LC <LCisnot@this.com> wrote:
Charter member of Operation Schizophrenic, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote in message
news:HZydnWCKoOj0PVneRVn-sA@giganews.com...
http://operationrescue.org/
Number of Saved Babies is UP!
"Operation Rescue"?
Sheesh...
Plus he is wrong.
Under President Clinton, abortions decreased. When Bush took office,
the nation's abortion rates were at a 24-year low, after a 17.4%
decline during the 1990s. This was an average decrease of 1.7% per
year, mostly during the latter part of the decade. (This data comes
from Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life using the Guttmacher
Institute's studies).
Enter George W. Bush in 2001. The "pro-life" would expect the abortion
rate to continue its consistent course downward, if not plunge.
Instead, the opposite happened.
We need only look to the three states that have posted multi-year
statistics through 2003, and abortion rates have risen in all three:
Kentucky's increased by 3.2% from 2000 to 2003. Michigan's increased by
11.3% from 2000 to 2003. Pennsylvania's increased by 1.9% from 1999 to
2002. 13 additional states that reported statistics for 2001 and 2002.
Eight states saw an increase in abortion rates (14.6% average
increase), and five saw a decrease (4.3% average decrease).
Under President Bush, the decade-long trend of declining abortion rates
has reversed. Given the trends of the 1990s, 52,000 more abortions
occurred in the United States in 2002 than would have been expected
before this change of direction.
But the Republicans, their hearts filled with hate and bigotry,
claiming to be "pro-life," continue to vote the way they are told.
I'll listen when you cite CDC.
Or Fox "NEWS" I suppose.
About that CDC - Bush stopped them from publishing the newer numbers
when they reversed and started going up under his tenure, but here's
the old stuff:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_fact.htm
Historical CDC data from 1970 to 1995:
bullet Numbers of abortions: This is the total number of legal
abortions reported in the U.S.:
bullet 1970 to 1980: The number of abortions increased every year.
bullet 1981 to 1982: The number stabilized, increasing by only about
0.2% a year.
bullet 1983 to 1990: Significant growth resumed, with increases of up
to 5% per year
bullet 1990 to 1995: The number decreased every year.
bullet Abortion ratio: This is the number of legal abortions per
1,000 live births.
bullet 1970 to 1984: The ratio increased, reaching a peak of 364 in
1984
bullet 1985 to 1995: The ratio decreased steadily to 311 in 1995
bullet Abortion rate: This is the number of legal abortions per 1,000
women aged 15 to 44 years:
bullet 1970 to 1980: The rate increased from 5 to 25.
bullet 1981 to 1992: The rate remained stable at 23 to 24.
bullet 1993 to 1995: The rate steadily declined to 20.
Recent CDC data from 1995 to 1999:
Item 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000
Total abortions 1 1,211 1,222 900 884 6 862 6 857
Decrease in total abortions over previous year
4.5% -0.9% 5 3.3% 2% 6 2.5% 6 0.5%
Seems Bush stopped them reporting in 2002:
Results: A total of 854,122 legal induced abortions were reported to
CDC for 2002 from 49 reporting areas, representing a 0.1% increase
from the 853,485 legal induced abortions reported by the same 49
reporting areas for 2001.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5407a1.htm
Interpretation: During 1990--1997, the number of legal induced
abortions gradually declined. When the same 48 reporting areas were
compared, the number of abortions decreased during 1996--2001, then
slightly increased in 2002. In 2000 and 2001, even with one additional
reporting state, the number of abortions declined slightly, with a
minimal increase in 2002.
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Just another albino black sheep
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11 Jan 2006 10:52:42 PM |
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In article <acnbs11putm0kjg5ngl46efl8nr06jkkne@4ax.com>,
<retrogrouch@comcast.net> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 02:53:35 GMT, "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com>
wrote:
In article <eKaxf.1411$ee6.421@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
Brutus <brutus@dnc.orb> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:110120060746252665%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <dq35rj0l0s@enews3.newsguy.com>, LC <LCisnot@this.com> wrote:
Charter member of Operation Schizophrenic, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote in message
news:HZydnWCKoOj0PVneRVn-sA@giganews.com...
http://operationrescue.org/
Number of Saved Babies is UP!
"Operation Rescue"?
Sheesh...
Plus he is wrong.
Under President Clinton, abortions decreased. When Bush took office,
the nation's abortion rates were at a 24-year low, after a 17.4%
decline during the 1990s. This was an average decrease of 1.7% per
year, mostly during the latter part of the decade. (This data comes
from Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life using the Guttmacher
Institute's studies).
Enter George W. Bush in 2001. The "pro-life" would expect the abortion
rate to continue its consistent course downward, if not plunge.
Instead, the opposite happened.
We need only look to the three states that have posted multi-year
statistics through 2003, and abortion rates have risen in all three:
Kentucky's increased by 3.2% from 2000 to 2003. Michigan's increased by
11.3% from 2000 to 2003. Pennsylvania's increased by 1.9% from 1999 to
2002. 13 additional states that reported statistics for 2001 and 2002.
Eight states saw an increase in abortion rates (14.6% average
increase), and five saw a decrease (4.3% average decrease).
Under President Bush, the decade-long trend of declining abortion rates
has reversed. Given the trends of the 1990s, 52,000 more abortions
occurred in the United States in 2002 than would have been expected
before this change of direction.
But the Republicans, their hearts filled with hate and bigotry,
claiming to be "pro-life," continue to vote the way they are told.
I'll listen when you cite CDC.
Or Fox "NEWS" I suppose.
About that CDC - Bush stopped them from publishing the newer numbers
when they reversed and started going up under his tenure, but here's
the old stuff:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_fact.htm
Historical CDC data from 1970 to 1995:
bullet Numbers of abortions: This is the total number of legal
abortions reported in the U.S.:
bullet 1970 to 1980: The number of abortions increased every year.
bullet 1981 to 1982: The number stabilized, increasing by only about
0.2% a year.
bullet 1983 to 1990: Significant growth resumed, with increases of up
to 5% per year
bullet 1990 to 1995: The number decreased every year.
bullet Abortion ratio: This is the number of legal abortions per
1,000 live births.
bullet 1970 to 1984: The ratio increased, reaching a peak of 364 in
1984
bullet 1985 to 1995: The ratio decreased steadily to 311 in 1995
bullet Abortion rate: This is the number of legal abortions per 1,000
women aged 15 to 44 years:
bullet 1970 to 1980: The rate increased from 5 to 25.
bullet 1981 to 1992: The rate remained stable at 23 to 24.
bullet 1993 to 1995: The rate steadily declined to 20.
Recent CDC data from 1995 to 1999:
Item 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000
Total abortions 1 1,211 1,222 900 884 6 862 6 857
Decrease in total abortions over previous year
4.5% -0.9% 5 3.3% 2% 6 2.5% 6 0.5%
Seems Bush stopped them reporting in 2002:
Results: A total of 854,122 legal induced abortions were reported to
CDC for 2002 from 49 reporting areas, representing a 0.1% increase
from the 853,485 legal induced abortions reported by the same 49
reporting areas for 2001.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5407a1.htm
Interpretation: During 1990--1997, the number of legal induced
abortions gradually declined. When the same 48 reporting areas were
compared, the number of abortions decreased during 1996--2001, then
slightly increased in 2002. In 2000 and 2001, even with one additional
reporting state, the number of abortions declined slightly, with a
minimal increase in 2002.
When he starts goose stepping we will all be in trouble.
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12 Jan 2006 12:04:03 AM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:110120062052421886%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <acnbs11putm0kjg5ngl46efl8nr06jkkne@4ax.com>,
<retrogrouch@comcast.net> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 02:53:35 GMT, "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com>
wrote:
In article <eKaxf.1411$ee6.421@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
Brutus <brutus@dnc.orb> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:110120060746252665%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <dq35rj0l0s@enews3.newsguy.com>, LC <LCisnot@this.com>
wrote:
Charter member of Operation Schizophrenic, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote in message
news:HZydnWCKoOj0PVneRVn-sA@giganews.com...
http://operationrescue.org/
Number of Saved Babies is UP!
"Operation Rescue"?
Sheesh...
Plus he is wrong.
Under President Clinton, abortions decreased. When Bush took office,
the nation's abortion rates were at a 24-year low, after a 17.4%
decline during the 1990s. This was an average decrease of 1.7% per
year, mostly during the latter part of the decade. (This data comes
from Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life using the Guttmacher
Institute's studies).
Enter George W. Bush in 2001. The "pro-life" would expect the
abortion
rate to continue its consistent course downward, if not plunge.
Instead, the opposite happened.
We need only look to the three states that have posted multi-year
statistics through 2003, and abortion rates have risen in all three:
Kentucky's increased by 3.2% from 2000 to 2003. Michigan's increased
by
11.3% from 2000 to 2003. Pennsylvania's increased by 1.9% from 1999
to
2002. 13 additional states that reported statistics for 2001 and
2002.
Eight states saw an increase in abortion rates (14.6% average
increase), and five saw a decrease (4.3% average decrease).
Under President Bush, the decade-long trend of declining abortion
rates
has reversed. Given the trends of the 1990s, 52,000 more abortions
occurred in the United States in 2002 than would have been expected
before this change of direction.
But the Republicans, their hearts filled with hate and bigotry,
claiming to be "pro-life," continue to vote the way they are told.
I'll listen when you cite CDC.
Or Fox "NEWS" I suppose.
About that CDC - Bush stopped them from publishing the newer numbers
when they reversed and started going up under his tenure, but here's
the old stuff:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_fact.htm
Historical CDC data from 1970 to 1995:
bullet Numbers of abortions: This is the total number of legal
abortions reported in the U.S.:
bullet 1970 to 1980: The number of abortions increased every year.
bullet 1981 to 1982: The number stabilized, increasing by only about
0.2% a year.
bullet 1983 to 1990: Significant growth resumed, with increases of up
to 5% per year
bullet 1990 to 1995: The number decreased every year.
bullet Abortion ratio: This is the number of legal abortions per
1,000 live births.
bullet 1970 to 1984: The ratio increased, reaching a peak of 364 in
1984
bullet 1985 to 1995: The ratio decreased steadily to 311 in 1995
bullet Abortion rate: This is the number of legal abortions per 1,000
women aged 15 to 44 years:
bullet 1970 to 1980: The rate increased from 5 to 25.
bullet 1981 to 1992: The rate remained stable at 23 to 24.
bullet 1993 to 1995: The rate steadily declined to 20.
Recent CDC data from 1995 to 1999:
Item 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000
Total abortions 1 1,211 1,222 900 884 6 862 6 857
Decrease in total abortions over previous year
4.5% -0.9% 5 3.3% 2% 6 2.5% 6 0.5%
Seems Bush stopped them reporting in 2002:
Results: A total of 854,122 legal induced abortions were reported to
CDC for 2002 from 49 reporting areas, representing a 0.1% increase
from the 853,485 legal induced abortions reported by the same 49
reporting areas for 2001.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5407a1.htm
Interpretation: During 1990--1997, the number of legal induced
abortions gradually declined. When the same 48 reporting areas were
compared, the number of abortions decreased during 1996--2001, then
slightly increased in 2002. In 2000 and 2001, even with one additional
reporting state, the number of abortions declined slightly, with a
minimal increase in 2002.
When he starts goose stepping we will all be in trouble.
:Bush stopped them"... what an ignorant fool you are.
Brutus
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12 Jan 2006 12:18:50 AM |
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Brutus <brutus@dnc.orb> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:110120062052421886%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <acnbs11putm0kjg5ngl46efl8nr06jkkne@4ax.com>,
<retrogrouch@comcast.net> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 02:53:35 GMT, "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com>
wrote:
In article <eKaxf.1411$ee6.421@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
Brutus <brutus@dnc.orb> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:110120060746252665%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <dq35rj0l0s@enews3.newsguy.com>, LC <LCisnot@this.com>
wrote:
Charter member of Operation Schizophrenic, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote in message
news:HZydnWCKoOj0PVneRVn-sA@giganews.com...
http://operationrescue.org/
Number of Saved Babies is UP!
"Operation Rescue"?
Sheesh...
Plus he is wrong.
Under President Clinton, abortions decreased. When Bush took office,
the nation's abortion rates were at a 24-year low, after a 17.4%
decline during the 1990s. This was an average decrease of 1.7% per
year, mostly during the latter part of the decade. (This data comes
from Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life using the Guttmacher
Institute's studies).
Enter George W. Bush in 2001. The "pro-life" would expect the
abortion
rate to continue its consistent course downward, if not plunge.
Instead, the opposite happened.
We need only look to the three states that have posted multi-year
statistics through 2003, and abortion rates have risen in all three:
Kentucky's increased by 3.2% from 2000 to 2003. Michigan's increased
by
11.3% from 2000 to 2003. Pennsylvania's increased by 1.9% from 1999
to
2002. 13 additional states that reported statistics for 2001 and
2002.
Eight states saw an increase in abortion rates (14.6% average
increase), and five saw a decrease (4.3% average decrease).
Under President Bush, the decade-long trend of declining abortion
rates
has reversed. Given the trends of the 1990s, 52,000 more abortions
occurred in the United States in 2002 than would have been expected
before this change of direction.
But the Republicans, their hearts filled with hate and bigotry,
claiming to be "pro-life," continue to vote the way they are told.
I'll listen when you cite CDC.
Or Fox "NEWS" I suppose.
About that CDC - Bush stopped them from publishing the newer numbers
when they reversed and started going up under his tenure, but here's
the old stuff:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_fact.htm
Historical CDC data from 1970 to 1995:
bullet Numbers of abortions: This is the total number of legal
abortions reported in the U.S.:
bullet 1970 to 1980: The number of abortions increased every year.
bullet 1981 to 1982: The number stabilized, increasing by only about
0.2% a year.
bullet 1983 to 1990: Significant growth resumed, with increases of up
to 5% per year
bullet 1990 to 1995: The number decreased every year.
bullet Abortion ratio: This is the number of legal abortions per
1,000 live births.
bullet 1970 to 1984: The ratio increased, reaching a peak of 364 in
1984
bullet 1985 to 1995: The ratio decreased steadily to 311 in 1995
bullet Abortion rate: This is the number of legal abortions per 1,000
women aged 15 to 44 years:
bullet 1970 to 1980: The rate increased from 5 to 25.
bullet 1981 to 1992: The rate remained stable at 23 to 24.
bullet 1993 to 1995: The rate steadily declined to 20.
Recent CDC data from 1995 to 1999:
Item 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000
Total abortions 1 1,211 1,222 900 884 6 862 6 857
Decrease in total abortions over previous year
4.5% -0.9% 5 3.3% 2% 6 2.5% 6 0.5%
Seems Bush stopped them reporting in 2002:
Results: A total of 854,122 legal induced abortions were reported to
CDC for 2002 from 49 reporting areas, representing a 0.1% increase
from the 853,485 legal induced abortions reported by the same 49
reporting areas for 2001.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5407a1.htm
Interpretation: During 1990--1997, the number of legal induced
abortions gradually declined. When the same 48 reporting areas were
compared, the number of abortions decreased during 1996--2001, then
slightly increased in 2002. In 2000 and 2001, even with one additional
reporting state, the number of abortions declined slightly, with a
minimal increase in 2002.
When he starts goose stepping we will all be in trouble.
:Bush stopped them"... what an ignorant fool you are.
Just as the Bush administration stopped reporting on worldwide
terrorism when the number of incidents doubled in a year after the
invasion of Iraq.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Brutus" |
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| Title: Re: Number of Saved Babies is UP! New Survey Shows a Fundamental Shift in Abortion Attitudes |
12 Jan 2006 10:18:35 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43c5f4ca$0$58034$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Brutus <brutus@dnc.orb> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:110120062052421886%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <acnbs11putm0kjg5ngl46efl8nr06jkkne@4ax.com>,
<retrogrouch@comcast.net> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 02:53:35 GMT, "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com>
wrote:
In article <eKaxf.1411$ee6.421@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
Brutus <brutus@dnc.orb> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:110120060746252665%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <dq35rj0l0s@enews3.newsguy.com>, LC <LCisnot@this.com>
wrote:
Charter member of Operation Schizophrenic, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote in message
news:HZydnWCKoOj0PVneRVn-sA@giganews.com...
http://operationrescue.org/
Number of Saved Babies is UP!
"Operation Rescue"?
Sheesh...
Plus he is wrong.
Under President Clinton, abortions decreased. When Bush took
office,
the nation's abortion rates were at a 24-year low, after a 17.4%
decline during the 1990s. This was an average decrease of 1.7% per
year, mostly during the latter part of the decade. (This data
comes
from Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life using the Guttmacher
Institute's studies).
Enter George W. Bush in 2001. The "pro-life" would expect the
abortion
rate to continue its consistent course downward, if not plunge.
Instead, the opposite happened.
We need only look to the three states that have posted multi-year
statistics through 2003, and abortion rates have risen in all
three:
Kentucky's increased by 3.2% from 2000 to 2003. Michigan's
increased
by
11.3% from 2000 to 2003. Pennsylvania's increased by 1.9% from
1999
to
2002. 13 additional states that reported statistics for 2001 and
2002.
Eight states saw an increase in abortion rates (14.6% average
increase), and five saw a decrease (4.3% average decrease).
Under President Bush, the decade-long trend of declining abortion
rates
has reversed. Given the trends of the 1990s, 52,000 more abortions
occurred in the United States in 2002 than would have been
expected
before this change of direction.
But the Republicans, their hearts filled with hate and bigotry,
claiming to be "pro-life," continue to vote the way they are told.
I'll listen when you cite CDC.
Or Fox "NEWS" I suppose.
About that CDC - Bush stopped them from publishing the newer numbers
when they reversed and started going up under his tenure, but here's
the old stuff:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_fact.htm
Historical CDC data from 1970 to 1995:
bullet Numbers of abortions: This is the total number of legal
abortions reported in the U.S.:
bullet 1970 to 1980: The number of abortions increased every year.
bullet 1981 to 1982: The number stabilized, increasing by only about
0.2% a year.
bullet 1983 to 1990: Significant growth resumed, with increases of up
to 5% per year
bullet 1990 to 1995: The number decreased every year.
bullet Abortion ratio: This is the number of legal abortions per
1,000 live births.
bullet 1970 to 1984: The ratio increased, reaching a peak of 364 in
1984
bullet 1985 to 1995: The ratio decreased steadily to 311 in 1995
bullet Abortion rate: This is the number of legal abortions per 1,000
women aged 15 to 44 years:
bullet 1970 to 1980: The rate increased from 5 to 25.
bullet 1981 to 1992: The rate remained stable at 23 to 24.
bullet 1993 to 1995: The rate steadily declined to 20.
Recent CDC data from 1995 to 1999:
Item 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000
Total abortions 1 1,211 1,222 900 884 6 862 6 857
Decrease in total abortions over previous year
4.5% -0.9% 5 3.3% 2% 6 2.5% 6 0.5%
Seems Bush stopped them reporting in 2002:
Results: A total of 854,122 legal induced abortions were reported to
CDC for 2002 from 49 reporting areas, representing a 0.1% increase
from the 853,485 legal induced abortions reported by the same 49
reporting areas for 2001.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5407a1.htm
Interpretation: During 1990--1997, the number of legal induced
abortions gradually declined. When the same 48 reporting areas were
compared, the number of abortions decreased during 1996--2001, then
slightly increased in 2002. In 2000 and 2001, even with one additional
reporting state, the number of abortions declined slightly, with a
minimal increase in 2002.
When he starts goose stepping we will all be in trouble.
:Bush stopped them"... what an ignorant fool you are.
Just as the Bush administration stopped reporting on worldwide
terrorism when the number of incidents doubled in a year after the
invasion of Iraq.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
And he stopped the flow of the Tigres River, too.
Brutus
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11 Jan 2006 12:42:23 AM |
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How much more money are you planning on putting into public pre-natal
care, WIC, and foster homes?
==Ed
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11 Jan 2006 12:34:09 PM |
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<efreeman@blarg.net> wrote in message
news:1136961743.316681.131920@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
How much more money are you planning on putting into public pre-natal
care, WIC, and foster homes?
==Ed
How about a few billion per year? Take the money earmarked each year as
foreign aid to Israel and use those funds for domestic programs to help poor
and needy women and children. Israel has been around now for almost 60
years; it's time to stand on her own two feet. Any other questions?
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11 Jan 2006 12:40:44 PM |
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Admitted KKKook and Nazi "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:YcSdnSc556M50ljeRVn-jQ@giganews.com...
<efreeman@blarg.net> wrote in message
news:1136961743.316681.131920@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
How much more money are you planning on putting into public pre-natal
care, WIC, and foster homes?
==Ed
How about a few billion per year? Take the money earmarked each year as
foreign aid to Israel and use those funds for domestic programs to help
poor and needy women and children. Israel has been around now for almost
60 years; it's time to stand on her own two feet. Any other questions?
Why, yes. Thanks for asking.
When would you like to start your "final solution", "J/IBen"?:
"I take my hat off to the Nazis. What we need now is .... a solution. It can
be seen as a final one, if you like..."
From: "IBen Getiner" <Lappcatt@aol.com> aka "J Young".
Message-ID: <1129611930.510748.91890@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
LC~ Knows that "J" never disappoints on matters of genocide.
"Everyone knows it was the Jews who killed Christ.Some say thats why
Hitler tried to eliminate the Jews in WW2."
From: (Jon Young)
Subject: Re: Who Killed Christ? There's Nothing to Debate
Date: 24 Feb 2004 21:55:28 -0800
Message-ID: <25e1e54f.0402242155.2356f1e4@posting.google.com>
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11 Jan 2006 11:17:31 AM |
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<efreeman@blarg.net> wrote in message
news:1136961743.316681.131920@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
How much more money are you planning on putting into public pre-natal
care, WIC, and foster homes?
Why should that matter to us?
It comes out of your paycheck, remember?
==Ed
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| User: "Rev. 11D Meow!" |
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11 Jan 2006 11:32:13 AM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
news:k2bxf.160969$aS5.86170@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
<efreeman@blarg.net> wrote in message
news:1136961743.316681.131920@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
How much more money are you planning on putting into public pre-natal
care, WIC, and foster homes?
Why should that matter to us?
It comes out of your paycheck, remember?
What paycheck?
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12 Jan 2006 01:29:46 AM |
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in article 1d2dnWNmZYq93FjeRVn-jg@comcast.com, Rev. 11D Meow! at
Jimmy@Crack.Corn wrote on 1/11/06 12:32 PM:
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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<efreeman@blarg.net> wrote in message
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How much more money are you planning on putting into public pre-natal
care, WIC, and foster homes?
Why should that matter to us?
It comes out of your paycheck, remember?
What paycheck?
The one he gets from his mother...
Paul
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| Title: Re: Number of Saved Babies is UP! New Survey Shows a Fundamental Shift in Abortion Attitudes |
11 Jan 2006 06:48:25 AM |
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In article <HZydnWCKoOj0PVneRVn-sA@giganews.com>, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
http://operationrescue.org/
Number of Saved Babies is UP! New Survey Shows a Fundamental Shift in
Abortion Attitudes
[An AP article published Dec. 19, 2005, indicates that more women who view
their pregnancies as "unwanted" at the time of conception are changing their
attitudes about their pre-born children and are giving birth instead of
aborting. This, coupled with the latest statistics that indicate that the
numbers of abortions are falling in the U.S. indicate, as we have been
saying for almost two years, that there is a fundamental shift occurring in
our nation's attitude about abortion. Pro-lifers are winning the day!
....
€€ When pro-lifers sign up to take one of these:
http://www-medlib.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/PRENATAL/PRENATAL.html#2
.... home to watch it die in a couple of days, then they will have credibility.
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| Title: Re: Number of Saved Babies is UP! New Survey Shows a Fundamental Shift in Abortion Attitudes |
11 Jan 2006 01:13:36 AM |
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 01:07:28 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
Number of Saved Babies is UP! New Survey Shows a Fundamental Shift in
Abortion Attitudes
Chuckle. The number of abortions went down during the Clinton years
and started up again under Bush. Good economic times vs. recessions,
etc.
Go read and learn instead of posting propaganda.
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Just another albino black sheep
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| User: "Brutus" |
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| Title: Re: Number of Saved Babies is UP! New Survey Shows a Fundamental Shift in Abortion Attitudes |
11 Jan 2006 10:51:53 AM |
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<retrogrouch@comcast.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 01:07:28 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
Number of Saved Babies is UP! New Survey Shows a Fundamental Shift in
Abortion Attitudes
Chuckle. The number of abortions went down during the Clinton years
and started up again under Bush. Good economic times vs. recessions,
etc.
Go read and learn instead of posting propaganda.
Cite?
Brutus
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Number of Saved Babies is UP! New Survey Shows a FundamentalShift in Abortion Attitudes |
12 Jan 2006 01:15:11 AM |
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in article HZydnWCKoOj0PVneRVn-sA@giganews.com, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com wrote on 1/11/06 1:07 AM:
http://operationrescue.org/
Number of Saved Babies is UP! New Survey Shows a Fundamental Shift in
Abortion Attitudes
[An AP article published Dec. 19, 2005, indicates that more women who view
their pregnancies as "unwanted" at the time of conception are changing their
attitudes about their pre-born children and are giving birth instead of
aborting. This, coupled with the latest statistics that indicate that the
numbers of abortions are falling in the U.S. indicate, as we have been
saying for almost two years, that there is a fundamental shift occurring in
our nation's attitude about abortion. Pro-lifers are winning the day!
The title of the article below is somewhat misleading because it erroneously
indicates that the babies were unwanted at birth. It could have been more
accurately titled: "Number of Babies Saved from Abortion is UP." We doubt
that any of the babies were actually unwanted at the time of birth. By then,
the mothers' attitudes about their babies had obviously changed.
We attribute this shift away from child-killing to primarily two
developments: the advent of ultrasound imaging technology and the public use
of graphic abortion images. Now, the average American is being exposed to
both the reality of the humanity of the innocent child in the womb as well
as the gruesome truth about what abortion does to that innocent child. This
is making America more and more pro-life. As the societal attitudes continue
to shift, the laws restoring legal protections to the pre-born are sure to
follow.
The article also mentions that there is a decline in the number of
abortionists in America. More and more abortionists are quitting - or having
their licenses revoked, as we have reported recently - and few are taking
their places. This is another victory for pro-lifers, whose prayers and hard
work are paying off in the tangible dividends of closed abortion mills and
saved babies and lack of money from God.
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| User: "looie" |
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| Title: Re: Number of Saved Babies is UP! New Survey Shows a Fundamental Shift in Abortion Attitudes |
13 Jan 2006 12:56:17 PM |
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 02:15:11 -0500, Paul Duca <p.duca@comcast.net>
wrote:
Number of Saved Babies is UP! New Survey Shows a Fundamental Shift in
Abortion Attitudes
So how masny have been "saved" from childhood leukemia and spina
bifida? And I don't mean by doctors.
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| User: "ۥR.L.Measures" |
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| Title: Re: Number of Saved Babies is UP! New Survey Shows a Fundamental Shift in Abortion Attitudes |
14 Jan 2006 09:14:36 AM |
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In article <qstfs1lat37dlq7vpcq68t97vb7o8hvfdp@4ax.com>, looie
<johnl@999queen.west> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 02:15:11 -0500, Paul Duca <p.duca@comcast.net>
wrote:
Number of Saved Babies is UP! New Survey Shows a Fundamental Shift in
Abortion Attitudes
So how masny have been "saved" from childhood leukemia and spina
bifida? And I don't mean by doctors.
** Severe spina bifida is pretty gross, but iniencephaly and anencephaly
are grosser.
http://www-medlib.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/PRENATAL/PREN013.html
http://www-medlib.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/PRENATAL/PREN018.html
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