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User: "J Young"
Date: 21 Dec 2007 10:57:22 PM
Object: Nuns leave their brains to science
So blessed are these women.
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/ap/article.html?mi=D8TM2CL80&apc=9001
When Sister Kathleen Treanor's soul ascends to heaven, her brain will go to
a less ethereal realm: a medical lab in Kentucky.
Two decades ago, Sister Treanor and 677 other members of the School Sisters
of Notre Dame granted a young researcher's request to test them each year in
order to track the progression of Alzheimer's disease and other age-related
brain disorders.
The 61 surviving nuns recently completed their last round of intellectual
and physical tests for the Nun Study, one of the world's most comprehensive
neurological research projects.
One final sacrifice remains: When they die, their brains will be taken for
further study, joining a collection of hundreds of other brains donated by
the the nuns who died before them.
Sister Treanor, a 93-year-old former school principal who is one of the last
of the volunteers at a Wilton convent, looks at her participation as
service, not sacrifice.
"I've tried to do good while I'm alive, and I liked the idea that I could do
something good after death," she said.
With the modesty of their calling, the nuns attribute the study's success to
researcher Dr. David Snowdon, downplaying their own countless hours of
interviews and testing over the decades.
"I never minded having my brain checked out. It kept me out of trouble,"
said 96-year-old Sister Antoine Daniel.
Researchers say Snowdon's work already has produced interesting results,
including a finding that people who challenge themselves intellectually can
apparently delay or prevent the onset of Alzheimer's symptoms.
Snowdon's work also suggests that in people predisposed to Alzheimer's, a
stroke or head trauma can speed the disease's progression - an argument for
wearing seat belts, helmets and other protective gear.
He also has researched the levels of folic acid in the blood of deceased
nuns with and without dementia; why nuns with positive attitudes and
creative verbal skills tend to live longer than their glass-half-empty
peers; and other questions.
"We'll continue to learn from the sisters for many, many years to come,"
Snowdon said.
Snowdon was a nervous young epidemiology professor at the University of
Minnesota when he approached the first group of nuns in 1986 at the School
Sisters of Notre Dame order in Mankato, Minn.
Although Pope Pius XII had declared in 1956 that donating organs was
acceptable in the Roman Catholic faith, asking nuns to leave their brains to
science for post-mortem testing was a delicate task. That was especially
true for Snowdon, who had attended Catholic school and still viewed nuns
with a mix of reverence and intimidation.
Yet getting them to donate their brains was critical because the only
indisputable diagnosis of Alzheimer's comes from examining a patient's brain
after death.
"At that time, it was hard enough just to get families of Alzheimer's
patients to agree to donate the brain of a loved one with the disease," he
said. "What we found is that because the sisters had been teachers, they
looked at this as a way to keep teaching even after they die."
Snowdon expanded his study over the years, recruiting more nuns at other
School Sister convents nationwide and joining the University of Kentucky to
devote himself fully to the project. By 1992, he was giving annual memory
and cognitive tests to 678 nuns ranging in age from 75 to 102.
One reason the nuns are such a valuable research tool is that as members of
the same religious order, they all had decades of similar medical treatment,
diets, reproductive histories and preventive care. Almost nine out of 10 had
been teachers.
In the general population, finding such a uniform pool of test subjects is
difficult.
About half the nuns in the study developed Alzheimer's disease or other
forms of dementia before they died, about similar to the general population.
"It's such a cool study. People who study aging love to have these
longitudinal perspectives because we think the early life experiences
probably do have an impact on exceptional longevity," said Dr. Thomas Perls,
a Boston University professor and Alzheimer's specialist who directs the New
England Centenarian Study, which focuses on people 100 and older.
Of the seven remaining Nun Study participants based at the Wilton convent,
several still recall their first memories as toddlers, can recite lengthy
poems they learned in elementary school or tell vivid stories of classes
they taught at schools around the U.S.
The Connecticut sisters say that while God gets their souls when they die,
they are comfortable - comforted, even - knowing Snowdon has dibs on their
brains.
"I think of the overall picture of what good could come out of it," said
Sister Alberta Sheridan, 92. As for the possibility of developing
Alzheimer's, she is sanguine: "If it happens, it happens. It's part of God's
plan."
--
J Young
jyoungvisions@aol.com
.

User: "Elf M. Sternberg"

Title: Re: Nuns leave their brains to science 25 Dec 2007 12:50:04 AM
"J Young" <jyoungvisions@aol.com> writes:

So blessed are these women.

How wonderfully Christian! They've admitted that, come the
resurrection, there actually is a part of their anatomy they won't
need.
Elf
--
Elf M. Sternberg, Immanentizing the Eschaton since 1988
http://www.pendorwright.com/
"You know how some people treat their body like a temple?
I treat mine like issa amusement park!" - Kei
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User: "Sanitys Little Helper"

Title: Re: Nuns leave their brains to science 22 Dec 2007 06:06:42 AM
"J Young" <jyoungvisions@aol.com> wrote in
news:1ger86.8m3.19.1@news.alt.net to alt.atheism:


So blessed are these women.







http://www.theconservativevoice.com/ap/article.html?mi=D8TM2CL80&apc=90
01





When Sister Kathleen Treanor's soul ascends to heaven, her brain will
go to a less ethereal realm: a medical lab in Kentucky.

What are they going to pickle them in? Hmm...
All together now....
Jesus want's me for a Jim Beam
A Jim beam
A Jim Beam
I wonder if their souls will get drunk.


Sister Treanor, a 93-year-old former school principal who is one of
the last of the volunteers at a Wilton convent, looks at her
participation as service, not sacrifice.

It isn't a sacrifice because they have no futher use for them. Mind you,
they never used them in the first place.
--
David Silverman D.B.E.
aa #2208
Lord Mayor of Dis
And now, today's sponsor message:
For the P.T. Barnum of non-verified medicine, it's got to be:
Earthquack.

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User: "LC"

Title: Re: Nuns leave their brains to science 22 Dec 2007 06:29:41 PM
"Nun" for brains troll "J Young" <jyoungvisions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1ger86.8m3.19.1@news.alt.net...

So blessed are these women.

If they had brains, they wouldn't have wasted their lives as nuns.
And, speaking of brains, it's clear your methadone addiction pretty much
toasted yours, IBen.
"A.A. has no position on any outside issues but, ask yourself (and only
yourself) why would you want to do these other substances if your goal is to
straighten out your life p.s. I'm a former maintainance man so i'm not just
talking out my *****. good luck and God bless! ;)"
From:
(Jon Young)
Newsgroups: alt.recovery.aa
Subject: Re: methadone
Date: 12 Nov 2003 19:31:53 -0800
Message-ID: <25e1e54f.0311121931.6fedbc4f@posting.google.com>
.

User: "bob young"

Title: Re: Nuns leave their brains to science 22 Dec 2007 04:23:04 AM
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J Young wrote:

So blessed are these women.

Line up thirty thousand nuns and I will agree they are probably all 'blessed'
[I have a fairly rough and acceptable idea what the meaning word is supposed to
convey.]
Having done that I hasten to point out that not one of them adds anything to
confirm that
there is 'A father which art in Heaven'



http://www.theconservativevoice.com/ap/article.html?mi=D8TM2CL80&apc=9001

When Sister Kathleen Treanor's soul ascends to heaven, her brain will go to
a less ethereal realm: a medical lab in Kentucky.

Two decades ago, Sister Treanor and 677 other members of the School Sisters
of Notre Dame granted a young researcher's request to test them each year in
order to track the progression of Alzheimer's disease and other age-related
brain disorders.

The 61 surviving nuns recently completed their last round of intellectual
and physical tests for the Nun Study, one of the world's most comprehensive
neurological research projects.

One final sacrifice remains: When they die, their brains will be taken for
further study, joining a collection of hundreds of other brains donated by
the the nuns who died before them.

Sister Treanor, a 93-year-old former school principal who is one of the last
of the volunteers at a Wilton convent, looks at her participation as
service, not sacrifice.

"I've tried to do good while I'm alive, and I liked the idea that I could do
something good after death," she said.

With the modesty of their calling, the nuns attribute the study's success to
researcher Dr. David Snowdon, downplaying their own countless hours of
interviews and testing over the decades.

"I never minded having my brain checked out. It kept me out of trouble,"
said 96-year-old Sister Antoine Daniel.

Researchers say Snowdon's work already has produced interesting results,
including a finding that people who challenge themselves intellectually can
apparently delay or prevent the onset of Alzheimer's symptoms.

Snowdon's work also suggests that in people predisposed to Alzheimer's, a
stroke or head trauma can speed the disease's progression - an argument for
wearing seat belts, helmets and other protective gear.

He also has researched the levels of folic acid in the blood of deceased
nuns with and without dementia; why nuns with positive attitudes and
creative verbal skills tend to live longer than their glass-half-empty
peers; and other questions.

"We'll continue to learn from the sisters for many, many years to come,"
Snowdon said.

Snowdon was a nervous young epidemiology professor at the University of
Minnesota when he approached the first group of nuns in 1986 at the School
Sisters of Notre Dame order in Mankato, Minn.

Although Pope Pius XII had declared in 1956 that donating organs was
acceptable in the Roman Catholic faith, asking nuns to leave their brains to
science for post-mortem testing was a delicate task. That was especially
true for Snowdon, who had attended Catholic school and still viewed nuns
with a mix of reverence and intimidation.

Yet getting them to donate their brains was critical because the only
indisputable diagnosis of Alzheimer's comes from examining a patient's brain
after death.

"At that time, it was hard enough just to get families of Alzheimer's
patients to agree to donate the brain of a loved one with the disease," he
said. "What we found is that because the sisters had been teachers, they
looked at this as a way to keep teaching even after they die."

Snowdon expanded his study over the years, recruiting more nuns at other
School Sister convents nationwide and joining the University of Kentucky to
devote himself fully to the project. By 1992, he was giving annual memory
and cognitive tests to 678 nuns ranging in age from 75 to 102.

One reason the nuns are such a valuable research tool is that as members of
the same religious order, they all had decades of similar medical treatment,
diets, reproductive histories and preventive care. Almost nine out of 10 had
been teachers.

In the general population, finding such a uniform pool of test subjects is
difficult.

About half the nuns in the study developed Alzheimer's disease or other
forms of dementia before they died, about similar to the general population.

"It's such a cool study. People who study aging love to have these
longitudinal perspectives because we think the early life experiences
probably do have an impact on exceptional longevity," said Dr. Thomas Perls,
a Boston University professor and Alzheimer's specialist who directs the New
England Centenarian Study, which focuses on people 100 and older.

Of the seven remaining Nun Study participants based at the Wilton convent,
several still recall their first memories as toddlers, can recite lengthy
poems they learned in elementary school or tell vivid stories of classes
they taught at schools around the U.S.

The Connecticut sisters say that while God gets their souls when they die,
they are comfortable - comforted, even - knowing Snowdon has dibs on their
brains.

"I think of the overall picture of what good could come out of it," said
Sister Alberta Sheridan, 92. As for the possibility of developing
Alzheimer's, she is sanguine: "If it happens, it happens. It's part of God's
plan."

--
J Young
jyoungvisions@aol.com

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<p>J Young wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>So blessed are these women.</blockquote>
Line up thirty thousand nuns and I will agree they are probably all 'blessed'
<p>[I have a fairly rough and acceptable idea what the meaning word is
supposed to convey.]
<p>Having done that I hasten to point out that not one of them adds anything
to confirm that
<br>there is 'A father which art in Heaven'
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;
<p><a href="http://www.theconservativevoice.com/ap/article.html?mi=D8TM2CL80&apc=9001">http://www.theconservativevoice.com/ap/article.html?mi=D8TM2CL80&amp;apc=9001</a>
<p>When Sister Kathleen Treanor's soul ascends to heaven, her brain will
go to
<br>a less ethereal realm: a medical lab in Kentucky.
<p>Two decades ago, Sister Treanor and 677 other members of the School
Sisters
<br>of Notre Dame granted a young researcher's request to test them each
year in
<br>order to track the progression of Alzheimer's disease and other age-related
<br>brain disorders.
<p>The 61 surviving nuns recently completed their last round of intellectual
<br>and physical tests for the Nun Study, one of the world's most comprehensive
<br>neurological research projects.
<p>One final sacrifice remains: When they die, their brains will be taken
for
<br>further study, joining a collection of hundreds of other brains donated
by
<br>the the nuns who died before them.
<p>Sister Treanor, a 93-year-old former school principal who is one of
the last
<br>of the volunteers at a Wilton convent, looks at her participation as
<br>service, not sacrifice.
<p>"I've tried to do good while I'm alive, and I liked the idea that I
could do
<br>something good after death," she said.
<p>With the modesty of their calling, the nuns attribute the study's success
to
<br>researcher Dr. David Snowdon, downplaying their own countless hours
of
<br>interviews and testing over the decades.
<p>"I never minded having my brain checked out. It kept me out of trouble,"
<br>said 96-year-old Sister Antoine Daniel.
<p>Researchers say Snowdon's work already has produced interesting results,
<br>including a finding that people who challenge themselves intellectually
can
<br>apparently delay or prevent the onset of Alzheimer's symptoms.
<p>Snowdon's work also suggests that in people predisposed to Alzheimer's,
a
<br>stroke or head trauma can speed the disease's progression - an argument
for
<br>wearing seat belts, helmets and other protective gear.
<p>He also has researched the levels of folic acid in the blood of deceased
<br>nuns with and without dementia; why nuns with positive attitudes and
<br>creative verbal skills tend to live longer than their glass-half-empty
<br>peers; and other questions.
<p>"We'll continue to learn from the sisters for many, many years to come,"
<br>Snowdon said.
<p>Snowdon was a nervous young epidemiology professor at the University
of
<br>Minnesota when he approached the first group of nuns in 1986 at the
School
<br>Sisters of Notre Dame order in Mankato, Minn.
<p>Although Pope Pius XII had declared in 1956 that donating organs was
<br>acceptable in the Roman Catholic faith, asking nuns to leave their
brains to
<br>science for post-mortem testing was a delicate task. That was especially
<br>true for Snowdon, who had attended Catholic school and still viewed
nuns
<br>with a mix of reverence and intimidation.
<p>Yet getting them to donate their brains was critical because the only
<br>indisputable diagnosis of Alzheimer's comes from examining a patient's
brain
<br>after death.
<p>"At that time, it was hard enough just to get families of Alzheimer's
<br>patients to agree to donate the brain of a loved one with the disease,"
he
<br>said. "What we found is that because the sisters had been teachers,
they
<br>looked at this as a way to keep teaching even after they die."
<p>Snowdon expanded his study over the years, recruiting more nuns at other
<br>School Sister convents nationwide and joining the University of Kentucky
to
<br>devote himself fully to the project. By 1992, he was giving annual
memory
<br>and cognitive tests to 678 nuns ranging in age from 75 to 102.
<p>One reason the nuns are such a valuable research tool is that as members
of
<br>the same religious order, they all had decades of similar medical treatment,
<br>diets, reproductive histories and preventive care. Almost nine out
of 10 had
<br>been teachers.
<p>In the general population, finding such a uniform pool of test subjects
is
<br>difficult.
<p>About half the nuns in the study developed Alzheimer's disease or other
<br>forms of dementia before they died, about similar to the general population.
<p>"It's such a cool study. People who study aging love to have these
<br>longitudinal perspectives because we think the early life experiences
<br>probably do have an impact on exceptional longevity," said Dr. Thomas
Perls,
<br>a Boston University professor and Alzheimer's specialist who directs
the New
<br>England Centenarian Study, which focuses on people 100 and older.
<p>Of the seven remaining Nun Study participants based at the Wilton convent,
<br>several still recall their first memories as toddlers, can recite lengthy
<br>poems they learned in elementary school or tell vivid stories of classes
<br>they taught at schools around the U.S.
<p>The Connecticut sisters say that while God gets their souls when they
die,
<br>they are comfortable - comforted, even - knowing Snowdon has dibs on
their
<br>brains.
<p>"I think of the overall picture of what good could come out of it,"
said
<br>Sister Alberta Sheridan, 92. As for the possibility of developing
<br>Alzheimer's, she is sanguine: "If it happens, it happens. It's part
of God's
<br>plan."
<p>--
<br>J Young
<br>jyoungvisions@aol.com</blockquote>
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User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Nuns leave their brains to science 22 Dec 2007 12:49:24 AM
J Young <jyoungvisions@aol.com> wrote:


So blessed are these women.

So damned are you, nazi turd.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Nuns leave their brains to science 22 Dec 2007 02:41:56 AM
On 22 Dez., 05:57, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:

So blessed are these women.

Another long and boring evening, J Young?
"Nuns leaving their brains to science"... How pathetic can you get...
Why is this supposed to interest anyone at alt.abortion, alt.atheism
or alt.talk.creationism?


http://www.theconservativevoice.com/ap/article.html?mi=D8TM2CL80&apc=...

Is this what your Friday nights are about, pathetic sack of *****?
Copying and posting from such websites?
Will you ever realized that your life is so pathetic that it is,
actually, funny?
Tell us, if internet didn't exist, what would you do?
.
User: "Uncle Vic"

Title: Re: Nuns leave their brains to science 22 Dec 2007 02:55:52 AM
One fine day in alt.atheism,
bloodied us up with
this:

Tell us, if internet didn't exist, what would you do?

Buy magazines?
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
.
User: "I. Boughterton"

Title: Re: Nuns leave their brains to science 22 Dec 2007 07:37:20 PM
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9A0E9872822vicman@207.115.33.102...

One fine day in alt.atheism,

bloodied us up with
this:

Tell us, if internet didn't exist, what would you do?


Buy magazines?

Play with himself?


--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.


--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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User: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gwyne=F0_Bennetdottir?="

Title: Re: Nuns leave their brains to science 25 Dec 2007 06:39:17 AM
On Dec 21, 10:57=A0pm, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
[...]
That's probably the holiest, kindest thing the deceased Sister has
ever done.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Nuns leave their brains to science 22 Dec 2007 01:41:47 AM
On Dec 22, 12:57=A0pm, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:

So blessed are these women.

http://www.theconservativevoice.com/ap/article.html?mi=3DD8TM2CL80&apc=3D.=

...


When Sister Kathleen Treanor's soul ascends to heaven, her brain will go t=

o

a less ethereal realm: a medical lab in Kentucky.

Two decades ago, Sister Treanor and 677 other members of the School Sister=

s

of Notre Dame granted a young researcher's request to test them each year =

in

order to track the progression of Alzheimer's disease and other age-relate=

d

brain disorders.

The 61 surviving nuns recently completed their last round of intellectual
and physical tests for the Nun Study, one of the world's most comprehensiv=

e

neurological research projects.

One final sacrifice remains: When they die, their brains will be taken for=
further study, joining a collection of hundreds of other brains donated by=
the the nuns who died before them.

Sister Treanor, a 93-year-old former school principal who is one of the la=

st

of the volunteers at a Wilton convent, looks at her participation as
service, not sacrifice.

"I've tried to do good while I'm alive, and I liked the idea that I could =

do

something good after death," she said.

With the modesty of their calling, the nuns attribute the study's success =

to

researcher Dr. David Snowdon, downplaying their own countless hours of
interviews and testing over the decades.

"I never minded having my brain checked out. It kept me out of trouble,"
said 96-year-old Sister Antoine Daniel.

Researchers say Snowdon's work already has produced interesting results,
including a finding that people who challenge themselves intellectually ca=

n

apparently delay or prevent the onset of Alzheimer's symptoms.

Snowdon's work also suggests that in people predisposed to Alzheimer's, a
stroke or head trauma can speed the disease's progression - an argument fo=

r

wearing seat belts, helmets and other protective gear.

He also has researched the levels of folic acid in the blood of deceased
nuns with and without dementia; why nuns with positive attitudes and
creative verbal skills tend to live longer than their glass-half-empty
peers; and other questions.

"We'll continue to learn from the sisters for many, many years to come,"
Snowdon said.

Snowdon was a nervous young epidemiology professor at the University of
Minnesota when he approached the first group of nuns in 1986 at the School=
Sisters of Notre Dame order in Mankato, Minn.

Although Pope Pius XII had declared in 1956 that donating organs was
acceptable in the Roman Catholic faith, asking nuns to leave their brains =

to

science for post-mortem testing was a delicate task. That was especially
true for Snowdon, who had attended Catholic school and still viewed nuns
with a mix of reverence and intimidation.

Yet getting them to donate their brains was critical because the only
indisputable diagnosis of Alzheimer's comes from examining a patient's bra=

in

after death.

"At that time, it was hard enough just to get families of Alzheimer's
patients to agree to donate the brain of a loved one with the disease," he=
said. "What we found is that because the sisters had been teachers, they
looked at this as a way to keep teaching even after they die."

Snowdon expanded his study over the years, recruiting more nuns at other
School Sister convents nationwide and joining the University of Kentucky t=

o

devote himself fully to the project. By 1992, he was giving annual memory
and cognitive tests to 678 nuns ranging in age from 75 to 102.

One reason the nuns are such a valuable research tool is that as members o=

f

the same religious order, they all had decades of similar medical treatmen=

t,

diets, reproductive histories and preventive care. Almost nine out of 10 h=

ad

been teachers.

In the general population, finding such a uniform pool of test subjects is=
difficult.

About half the nuns in the study developed Alzheimer's disease or other
forms of dementia before they died, about similar to the general populatio=

n.


"It's such a cool study. People who study aging love to have these
longitudinal perspectives because we think the early life experiences
probably do have an impact on exceptional longevity," said Dr. Thomas Perl=

s,

a Boston University professor and Alzheimer's specialist who directs the N=

ew

England Centenarian Study, which focuses on people 100 and older.

Of the seven remaining Nun Study participants based at the Wilton convent,=
several still recall their first memories as toddlers, can recite lengthy
poems they learned in elementary school or tell vivid stories of classes
they taught at schools around the U.S.

The Connecticut sisters say that while God gets their souls when they die,=
they are comfortable - comforted, even - knowing Snowdon has dibs on their=
brains.

"I think of the overall picture of what good could come out of it," said
Sister Alberta Sheridan, 92. As for the possibility of developing
Alzheimer's, she is sanguine: "If it happens, it happens. It's part of God=

's

plan."

--
J Young
jyoungvisi...@aol.com

Really amazing.
But you never considered that these nuns will join their god without
brains.
Good thinking on your part.....!
.
User: "Robert"

Title: Re: Nuns leave their brains to science 22 Dec 2007 02:13:37 PM
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 23:41:47 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Dec 22, 12:57 pm, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:

So blessed are these women.

http://www.theconservativevoice.com/ap/article.html?mi=D8TM2CL80&apc=...

When Sister Kathleen Treanor's soul ascends to heaven, her brain will go to
a less ethereal realm: a medical lab in Kentucky.

Two decades ago, Sister Treanor and 677 other members of the School Sisters
of Notre Dame granted a young researcher's request to test them each year in
order to track the progression of Alzheimer's disease and other age-related
brain disorders.

The 61 surviving nuns recently completed their last round of intellectual
and physical tests for the Nun Study, one of the world's most comprehensive
neurological research projects.

One final sacrifice remains: When they die, their brains will be taken for
further study, joining a collection of hundreds of other brains donated by
the the nuns who died before them.

Sister Treanor, a 93-year-old former school principal who is one of the last
of the volunteers at a Wilton convent, looks at her participation as
service, not sacrifice.

"I've tried to do good while I'm alive, and I liked the idea that I could do
something good after death," she said.

With the modesty of their calling, the nuns attribute the study's success to
researcher Dr. David Snowdon, downplaying their own countless hours of
interviews and testing over the decades.

"I never minded having my brain checked out. It kept me out of trouble,"
said 96-year-old Sister Antoine Daniel.

Researchers say Snowdon's work already has produced interesting results,
including a finding that people who challenge themselves intellectually can
apparently delay or prevent the onset of Alzheimer's symptoms.

Snowdon's work also suggests that in people predisposed to Alzheimer's, a
stroke or head trauma can speed the disease's progression - an argument for
wearing seat belts, helmets and other protective gear.

He also has researched the levels of folic acid in the blood of deceased
nuns with and without dementia; why nuns with positive attitudes and
creative verbal skills tend to live longer than their glass-half-empty
peers; and other questions.

"We'll continue to learn from the sisters for many, many years to come,"
Snowdon said.

Snowdon was a nervous young epidemiology professor at the University of
Minnesota when he approached the first group of nuns in 1986 at the School
Sisters of Notre Dame order in Mankato, Minn.

Although Pope Pius XII had declared in 1956 that donating organs was
acceptable in the Roman Catholic faith, asking nuns to leave their brains to
science for post-mortem testing was a delicate task. That was especially
true for Snowdon, who had attended Catholic school and still viewed nuns
with a mix of reverence and intimidation.

Yet getting them to donate their brains was critical because the only
indisputable diagnosis of Alzheimer's comes from examining a patient's brain
after death.

"At that time, it was hard enough just to get families of Alzheimer's
patients to agree to donate the brain of a loved one with the disease," he
said. "What we found is that because the sisters had been teachers, they
looked at this as a way to keep teaching even after they die."

Snowdon expanded his study over the years, recruiting more nuns at other
School Sister convents nationwide and joining the University of Kentucky to
devote himself fully to the project. By 1992, he was giving annual memory
and cognitive tests to 678 nuns ranging in age from 75 to 102.

One reason the nuns are such a valuable research tool is that as members of
the same religious order, they all had decades of similar medical treatment,
diets, reproductive histories and preventive care. Almost nine out of 10 had
been teachers.

In the general population, finding such a uniform pool of test subjects is
difficult.

About half the nuns in the study developed Alzheimer's disease or other
forms of dementia before they died, about similar to the general population.

"It's such a cool study. People who study aging love to have these
longitudinal perspectives because we think the early life experiences
probably do have an impact on exceptional longevity," said Dr. Thomas Perls,
a Boston University professor and Alzheimer's specialist who directs the New
England Centenarian Study, which focuses on people 100 and older.

Of the seven remaining Nun Study participants based at the Wilton convent,
several still recall their first memories as toddlers, can recite lengthy
poems they learned in elementary school or tell vivid stories of classes
they taught at schools around the U.S.

The Connecticut sisters say that while God gets their souls when they die,
they are comfortable - comforted, even - knowing Snowdon has dibs on their
brains.

"I think of the overall picture of what good could come out of it," said
Sister Alberta Sheridan, 92. As for the possibility of developing
Alzheimer's, she is sanguine: "If it happens, it happens. It's part of God's
plan."

--
J Young
jyoungvisi...@aol.com


Really amazing.
But you never considered that these nuns will join their god without
brains.
Good thinking on your part.....!

To the contrary if these good ladies should join God then they will
have new complete bodies, including brains full of memories. The
bodies buried without brains will simply rot. But most likely Rot is
all that will happen.
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User: "Uncle Vic"

Title: Re: Nuns leave their brains to science 22 Dec 2007 01:59:36 AM
One fine day in alt.atheism,
bloodied us up with
this:


Really amazing.
But you never considered that these nuns will join their god without
brains.
Good thinking on your part.....!

God-believers have brains? Did I miss a memo?
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
.


User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Nuns leave their brains to science 23 Dec 2007 07:16:17 AM
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 23:57:22 -0500, J Young wrote:

When Sister Kathleen Treanor's soul ascends to heaven, her brain will go
to a less ethereal realm: a medical lab in Kentucky.

Well, it's not like she used it for anything...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
Evolution is both fact and theory.
Creationism is neither.
.

User: "Uncle Vic"

Title: Re: Nuns leave their brains to science 22 Dec 2007 01:58:19 AM
One fine day in alt.atheism, "J Young" <jyoungvisions@aol.com> bloodied
us up with this:

When Sister Kathleen Treanor's soul ascends to heaven, her brain will
go to a less ethereal realm: a medical lab in Kentucky.

What soul? What part of the biological consciousness survives the death of
the brain? Modern science knows what causes consciousness in *all*
animals, including those the Christian world insists does not have a soul,
and it is all contained within the workings of the brain.
Less ethereal? Are you trying to suggest that science is *somewhat*
ethereal? What a maroon.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
.
User: "bob young"

Title: Re: Nuns leave their brains to science 22 Dec 2007 04:24:06 AM
Uncle Vic wrote:

One fine day in alt.atheism, "J Young" <jyoungvisions@aol.com> bloodied
us up with this:

When Sister Kathleen Treanor's soul ascends to heaven, her brain will
go to a less ethereal realm: a medical lab in Kentucky.


What soul? What part of the biological consciousness survives the death of
the brain? Modern science knows what causes consciousness in *all*
animals, including those the Christian world insists does not have a soul,
and it is all contained within the workings of the brain.

Less ethereal? Are you trying to suggest that science is *somewhat*
ethereal? What a maroon.

Yes and he might have the decency to define 'soul' for us
using logic, modern words and phrases



--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.

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