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Topic: Science > Abortion
User: "David W. Barnes"
Date: 18 Apr 2005 10:05:30 PM
Object: O'Connor Admits The Religious Are Nuts
In a speech earlier this month at Goucher College, O'Connor herself
said she was surprised at all the violent threats she received. "I
don't think the harsh rhetoric helps," she told the crowd. "I think it
energizes people who are a little off base to take actions that maybe
they wouldn't otherwise take."
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050417/nysu014.html?.v=6
O¹Connor went on, criticizing the conservative Christians, who she
apparently thinks are not "thoughtful citizens" - but rather part of
the "extreme" in America:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/education/bal-md.oconnor08apr08,1,44935
06.story?coll=bal-education-top&ctrack=1&cset=true>
Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor said harsh political rhetoric
could spur violence against the nation's judges, offering a veiled
response last night to some national figures who in the past week have
blasted the courts for failing to intervene in the case of a severely
brain-damaged Florida woman.
Speaking before a crowded auditorium at Goucher College in Towson,
O'Connor said she never anticipated her work as a judge would be
accompanied by violent threats and said "thoughtful citizens" should
demand an end to fiery extremism on either end of the political
spectrum....
Political leaders, most prominently House Majority Leader Tom DeLay,
said the nation's courts would have to answer for Schiavo's death.
O'Connor said tensions have historically existed between Congress and
the courts, but she added: "It isn't any more pleasant today. ... And I
hope that we will see an end to this, but it won't happen right away,
and it will take the work of thoughtful citizens who say, 'We don't
want to have this from either extreme, so let's move on.'"
.

User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: O'Connor Admits The Religious Are Nuts 18 Apr 2005 10:25:32 PM
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:180420052005301426%dbarnes@aol.com...

In a speech earlier this month at Goucher College, O'Connor herself
said she was surprised at all the violent threats she received. "I
don't think the harsh rhetoric helps," she told the crowd. "I think it
energizes people who are a little off base to take actions that maybe
they wouldn't otherwise take."

"Actions that maybe they wouldn't otherwise take?"
She couldn't possibly be talking about pulling someone's feeding tube or
abortions though since those she wants to paint as EXTREME are not for
killing people on a DEMAND basis.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!


http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050417/nysu014.html?.v=6

O¹Connor went on, criticizing the conservative Christians, who she
apparently thinks are not "thoughtful citizens" - but rather part of
the "extreme" in America:

Not pulling feeding tubes and not being for abortion on DEMAND are EXTREME?
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/education/bal-md.oconnor08apr08,1,44935
06.story?coll=bal-education-top&ctrack=1&cset=true>

Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor said harsh political rhetoric
could spur violence against the nation's judges, offering a veiled
response last night to some national figures who in the past week have
blasted the courts for failing to intervene in the case of a severely
brain-damaged Florida woman.

Speaking before a crowded auditorium at Goucher College in Towson,
O'Connor said she never anticipated her work as a judge would be
accompanied by violent threats and said "thoughtful citizens" should
demand an end to fiery extremism on either end of the political
spectrum....

Political leaders, most prominently House Majority Leader Tom DeLay,
said the nation's courts would have to answer for Schiavo's death.

O'Connor said tensions have historically existed between Congress and
the courts, but she added: "It isn't any more pleasant today. ... And I
hope that we will see an end to this, but it won't happen right away,
and it will take the work of thoughtful citizens who say, 'We don't
want to have this from either extreme, so let's move on.'"

The only way to move on is to set the record straight and to STOP acting as
if people who are against killing other living humans in utero or extra
utero are somehow EXTREME.
Why did O'Connor go with the religion card?
We all know it is illegal to discriminate on the basis of religion, another
requirement of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
Why would a Supreme Court justice want to discriminate against citizens on
the basis of their religion?
Doesn't she know the law of the USA?
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: O'Connor Admits The Religious Are Nuts 19 Apr 2005 12:38:31 AM
In article <fM_8e.81423$f%4.30277@bignews1.bellsouth.net>, Johnny
<wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:180420052005301426%dbarnes@aol.com...

In a speech earlier this month at Goucher College, O'Connor herself
said she was surprised at all the violent threats she received. "I
don't think the harsh rhetoric helps," she told the crowd. "I think it
energizes people who are a little off base to take actions that maybe
they wouldn't otherwise take."


"Actions that maybe they wouldn't otherwise take?"
She couldn't possibly be talking about pulling someone's feeding tube or
abortions though since those she wants to paint as EXTREME are not for
killing people on a DEMAND basis.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!


http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050417/nysu014.html?.v=6

O¹Connor went on, criticizing the conservative Christians, who she
apparently thinks are not "thoughtful citizens" - but rather part of
the "extreme" in America:


Not pulling feeding tubes and not being for abortion on DEMAND are EXTREME?
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!



http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/education/bal-md.oconnor08apr08,1,44935
06.story?coll=bal-education-top&ctrack=1&cset=true>

Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor said harsh political rhetoric
could spur violence against the nation's judges, offering a veiled
response last night to some national figures who in the past week have
blasted the courts for failing to intervene in the case of a severely
brain-damaged Florida woman.

Speaking before a crowded auditorium at Goucher College in Towson,
O'Connor said she never anticipated her work as a judge would be
accompanied by violent threats and said "thoughtful citizens" should
demand an end to fiery extremism on either end of the political
spectrum....

Political leaders, most prominently House Majority Leader Tom DeLay,
said the nation's courts would have to answer for Schiavo's death.

O'Connor said tensions have historically existed between Congress and
the courts, but she added: "It isn't any more pleasant today. ... And I
hope that we will see an end to this, but it won't happen right away,
and it will take the work of thoughtful citizens who say, 'We don't
want to have this from either extreme, so let's move on.'"


The only way to move on is to set the record straight and to STOP acting as
if people who are against killing other living humans in utero or extra
utero are somehow EXTREME.
Why did O'Connor go with the religion card?
We all know it is illegal to discriminate on the basis of religion, another
requirement of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

You are kidding yourself.

Why would a Supreme Court justice want to discriminate against citizens on
the basis of their religion?

Why would you make such a strange statement?

Doesn't she know the law of the USA?

No - only you do. She is just a United States Supreme Court Justice.
What could she know compared to you?
.

User: "Mark Sebree"

Title: Re: O'Connor Admits The Religious Are Nuts 18 Apr 2005 10:41:14 PM
Johnny wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:180420052005301426%dbarnes@aol.com...

In a speech earlier this month at Goucher College, O'Connor herself
said she was surprised at all the violent threats she received. "I
don't think the harsh rhetoric helps," she told the crowd. "I think

it

energizes people who are a little off base to take actions that

maybe

they wouldn't otherwise take."


"Actions that maybe they wouldn't otherwise take?"
She couldn't possibly be talking about pulling someone's feeding tube

or

abortions

No. She talking about assassination attempts, kidnappings, and death
threats from people like you.

though since those she wants to paint as EXTREME are not for
killing people on a DEMAND basis.

Nor is anyone else (with rare exceptions). And the people that she
paints are "extreme" are extremists. That is why she paints them as
such. People like you that want to destroy America and the freedom and
liberty that we enjoy, and instead want to impose on us a totalitarian
and/or theocratic government.


LOL!!!!!!!!!!!


http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050417/nysu014.html?.v=3D6

O=B9Connor went on, criticizing the conservative Christians, who she
apparently thinks are not "thoughtful citizens" - but rather part

of

the "extreme" in America:


Not pulling feeding tubes and not being for abortion on DEMAND are

EXTREME?

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

No, but thinking that you can force others to do as you demand is.
Forcing women to continue their unwanted pregnancies against their
wills is extremist. Ignoring the law and forcing people to suffer
because you do not like their decisions that is their right and duty to
make is extremist. People like you are extremists.




http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/education/bal-md.oconnor08apr08,1,44935

06.story?coll=3Dbal-education-top&ctrack=3D1&cset=3Dtrue>

Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor said harsh political

rhetoric

could spur violence against the nation's judges, offering a veiled
response last night to some national figures who in the past week

have

blasted the courts for failing to intervene in the case of a

severely

brain-damaged Florida woman.

Speaking before a crowded auditorium at Goucher College in Towson,
O'Connor said she never anticipated her work as a judge would be
accompanied by violent threats and said "thoughtful citizens"

should

demand an end to fiery extremism on either end of the political
spectrum....

Political leaders, most prominently House Majority Leader Tom

DeLay,

said the nation's courts would have to answer for Schiavo's death.

O'Connor said tensions have historically existed between Congress

and

the courts, but she added: "It isn't any more pleasant today. ...

And I

hope that we will see an end to this, but it won't happen right

away,

and it will take the work of thoughtful citizens who say, 'We don't
want to have this from either extreme, so let's move on.'"


The only way to move on is to set the record straight

That is what we want to do, but extremists like you also believe is
historical revisionism and ignoring the facts.

and to STOP acting as
if people who are against killing other living humans in utero or

extra

utero are somehow EXTREME.

When they try to force others to suffer for their beliefs, then that
starts moving into extremism.

Why did O'Connor go with the religion card?

Because that is where most of the extremists are right now.

We all know it is illegal to discriminate on the basis of religion,

another

requirement of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

Actually, that one is based on the First Amendment. The Civil Rights
Act of 1964 is far more limited, only dealing with employment, voting,
education, and public accommodation.
And religious extremists want to discriminate, and force everyone to
follow what their own religion dictates while ignoring the dictates of
the religion of the people that they are trying to suppress.

Why would a Supreme Court justice want to discriminate against

citizens on

the basis of their religion?

She doesn't. She is trying to prevent that discrimination.
On the other hand, I would not be surprised if Scalia and Thomas were
inclined to decide cases purely on the basis of their religious
beliefs, since they have evidently done so in the past. They certainly
do not respect the diversity of other religions.

Doesn't she know the law of the USA?

Far better than you do.
Mark Sebree
.
User: "Lovin Spoonful invalid@invalid"

Title: Re: O'Connor Admits The Religious Are Nuts 19 Apr 2005 09:45:30 AM
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1113882074.253956.188060@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
That is why she paints them as
such. People like you that want to destroy America and the freedom and
liberty that we enjoy, and instead want to impose on us a totalitarian
and/or theocratic government.
If that day ever comes my husband and I are heading out of the USA. That
would be worse than communism.
LS
.



User: "Miss Anne Thrope"

Title: Re: O'Connor Admits The Religious Are Nuts 19 Apr 2005 08:55:52 AM
Eternal suffering and damnation await all who question God's everlasting
and undying love..............No, there's nothing nutty about that at
all.
.
User: "Lovin Spoonful invalid@invalid"

Title: Re: O'Connor Admits The Religious Are Nuts 19 Apr 2005 09:48:23 AM
"Miss Anne Thrope" <High_Colonic@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:4814-42650DE8-551@storefull-3154.bay.webtv.net...

Eternal suffering and damnation await all who question God's everlasting
and undying love..............No, there's nothing nutty about that at
all.

==================================
So this everlasting undying love causes this god to cause eternal suffering
and damnation? I think you need to find a nicer god of the thousands of
gods out there. A truly loving god wouldn't cause anyone to suffer.
LS
.

User: "Attila"

Title: Re: O'Connor Admits The Religious Are Nuts 19 Apr 2005 05:40:54 PM
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:55:52 -0400,
(Miss Anne
Thrope) in alt.abortion with message-id
<4814-42650DE8-551@storefull-3154.bay.webtv.net> wrote:

Eternal suffering and damnation await all who question God's everlasting
and undying love..............No, there's nothing nutty about that at
all.

Prove any god exists.
.



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