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30 Sep 2006 10:23:16 PM |
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Official in S.C.: Sterilize bad parents |
Councilman Shirley has hit the nail right on the head. It's very
unfortunate, but sadly true, that some people just aren't equipped to be
parents. Murdering the preborn child because of the ineptitude of the
parents is absurd, so the next logical answer is to sterilize these parents.
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/ap/article.html?mi=D8KFH6800&apc=9024
A City Council member, reacting to a video store holdup believed to have
been carried out by children, says parents who can't properly care for their
kids should be sterilized.
"We pick up stray animals and spay them," Larry Shirley said in a story
published Saturday by The Post and Courier of Charleston. "These mothers
need to be spayed if they can't take care of theirs. Once they have a child
and it's running the street, to let them continue to have children is
totally unacceptable."
Shirley's comments come after police say a video store was held up by a
group of children, including a 14-year-old girl suspected of wielding a BB
gun that looked like a pistol.
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in news:WfadnYskSqJ-
qYLYnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@giganews.com:
Subject: Official in S.C.: Sterilize bad parents
Time for you to go live there.
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Doc Smartass
The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of
words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people
who must use the words. - Philip K. *****
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30 Sep 2006 10:25:08 PM |
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In News WfadnYskSqJ-qYLYnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@giganews.com,, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
Councilman Shirley has hit the nail right on the head. It's very
unfortunate, but sadly true, that some people just aren't equipped to
be parents. Murdering the preborn child because of the ineptitude of
the parents is absurd, so the next logical answer is to sterilize
these parents.
Well Hitler, it's been a while, but you've reared your ugly head once again.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
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01 Oct 2006 02:30:12 AM |
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"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL13@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
In News WfadnYskSqJ-qYLYnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@giganews.com,, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
Councilman Shirley has hit the nail right on the head. It's very
unfortunate, but sadly true, that some people just aren't equipped to
be parents. Murdering the preborn child because of the ineptitude of
the parents is absurd, so the next logical answer is to sterilize
these parents.
Well Hitler, it's been a while, but you've reared your ugly head once
again.
The church forbids sterilisation, which I think J Young well knows.
--
www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~bgy1mm
freeware games to download.
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01 Oct 2006 07:20:48 AM |
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In News sMGdnYxt9M9d44LYRVnyiA@bt.com,, Malcolm at regniztar@btinternet.com,
typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL13@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
In News WfadnYskSqJ-qYLYnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@giganews.com,, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
Councilman Shirley has hit the nail right on the head. It's very
unfortunate, but sadly true, that some people just aren't equipped
to be parents. Murdering the preborn child because of the
ineptitude of the parents is absurd, so the next logical answer is
to sterilize these parents.
Well Hitler, it's been a while, but you've reared your ugly head once
again.
The church forbids sterilisation, which I think J Young well knows.
Churches "forbid" a great many things that they accept behind closed doors.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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02 Oct 2006 08:21:38 AM |
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Andrealphus wrote:
In News sMGdnYxt9M9d44LYRVnyiA@bt.com,, Malcolm at regniztar@btinternet.com,
typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL13@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
In News WfadnYskSqJ-qYLYnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@giganews.com,, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
Councilman Shirley has hit the nail right on the head. It's very
unfortunate, but sadly true, that some people just aren't equipped
to be parents. Murdering the preborn child because of the
ineptitude of the parents is absurd, so the next logical answer is
to sterilize these parents.
Well Hitler, it's been a while, but you've reared your ugly head once
again.
The church forbids sterilisation, which I think J Young well knows.
Churches "forbid" a great many things that they accept behind closed doors.
Pedophilia, for one of many examples.
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Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
Help defend marriage in Washington state!
http://www.wa-doma.org
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01 Oct 2006 07:34:20 AM |
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Malcolm schrieb:
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL13@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
In News WfadnYskSqJ-qYLYnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@giganews.com,, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
Councilman Shirley has hit the nail right on the head. It's very
unfortunate, but sadly true, that some people just aren't equipped to
be parents. Murdering the preborn child because of the ineptitude of
the parents is absurd, so the next logical answer is to sterilize
these parents.
Well Hitler, it's been a while, but you've reared your ugly head once
again.
The church forbids sterilisation, which I think J Young well knows.
The church and the bible also teach a lot of things J fucking Young
knows but deliberately refuses to follow... Who's the bigger enemy of
your religion: a hypocrite like J Young or us?
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www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~bgy1mm
freeware games to download.
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01 Oct 2006 04:41:08 PM |
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In article <WfadnYskSqJ-qYLYnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
youngopinions@aol.com says...
Councilman Shirley has hit the nail right on the head. It's very
unfortunate, but sadly true, that some people just aren't equipped to be
parents. Murdering the preborn child because of the ineptitude of the
parents is absurd, so the next logical answer is to sterilize these parents.
You better check into catholic doctrine because I don't believe that they
support sterilization technologies. Otherwise catholic men would all run
out and get vasectomies since pope BennyTheDick still won't let them have
condoms.
But, for the record, I agree that we should sterilize religious retards
such as yourself.
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Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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01 Oct 2006 02:19:20 AM |
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J Young schrieb:
Councilman Shirley has hit the nail right on the head. It's very
unfortunate, but sadly true, that some people just aren't equipped to be
parents.
Obviously, yours failed miserably, considering what you've become.
Murdering the preborn child because of the ineptitude of the
parents is absurd, so the next logical answer is to sterilize these paren=
ts.
Too bad yours weren't, the planet would have been spared from another
nazi.
You're a revolting human being J Young. How you can look to yourself in
the mirror?
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/ap/article.html?mi=3DD8KFH6800&apc=3D=
9024
A City Council member, reacting to a video store holdup believed to have
been carried out by children, says parents who can't properly care for th=
eir
kids should be sterilized.
"We pick up stray animals and spay them," Larry Shirley said in a story
published Saturday by The Post and Courier of Charleston. "These mothers
need to be spayed if they can't take care of theirs. Once they have a chi=
ld
and it's running the street, to let them continue to have children is
totally unacceptable."
Shirley's comments come after police say a video store was held up by a
group of children, including a 14-year-old girl suspected of wielding a BB
gun that looked like a pistol.
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02 Oct 2006 10:16:25 AM |
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J Young wrote:
Councilman Shirley has hit the nail right on the head. It's very
unfortunate, but sadly true, that some people just aren't equipped to be
parents.
True. It has been true since the beginning of time, is true now, will
be true in the future, and likely will always be true.
Murdering the preborn child
"Murder" is a legal distinction. If abortion is legal, it cannot, by
definition, be "murder".
parents who can't properly care for their
kids should be sterilized.
"These mothers
need to be spayed if they can't take care of [their children]."
Interesting that it's the MOTHERS who need to be neutered. A woman can
have at most one pregnancy (might be twins or more) at a time. A man
can impregnate an almost infinite number of women in nine months. I
say, snip the balls off the men whose children aren't being properly
cared for.
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30 Sep 2006 11:18:08 PM |
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J Young wrote:
Councilman Shirley has hit the nail right on the head. It's very
unfortunate, but sadly true, that some people just aren't equipped to be
parents. Murdering the preborn child because of the ineptitude of the
parents is absurd, so the next logical answer is to sterilize these parents.
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/ap/article.html?mi=D8KFH6800&apc=9024
Sterilize bad parents, eh?
Well, well, well; that is EXACTLY the sort of thing that anti-choicers
like to accuse Margaret Sanger of. Scratch an anti-choicer and you'll
find a radical eugenicist.
I'll remember this the next time you spout off about Sanger, IBen.
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01 Oct 2006 09:53:23 AM |
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<Totally obsessesed, like a few of Usenet's less famous lemmings, with "J
Young", spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1159676288.032078.44320@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
J Young wrote:
Councilman Shirley has hit the nail right on the head. It's very
unfortunate, but sadly true, that some people just aren't equipped to be
parents. Murdering the preborn child because of the ineptitude of the
parents is absurd, so the next logical answer is to sterilize these
parents.
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/ap/article.html?mi=D8KFH6800&apc=9024
Sterilize bad parents, eh?
Well, well, well; that is EXACTLY the sort of thing that anti-choicers
like to accuse Margaret Sanger of. Scratch an anti-choicer and you'll
find a radical eugenicist.
I'll remember this the next time you spout off about Sanger
I "spout" off about Margeret Sanger because I feel it's necessary to educate
folks about what a 2 faced
racist this woman was.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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01 Oct 2006 10:34:11 AM |
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In News DpadnQ6oRMJOS4LYnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@giganews.com,, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
<Totally obsessesed, like a few of Usenet's less famous lemmings,
with "J Young", spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1159676288.032078.44320@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
J Young wrote:
Councilman Shirley has hit the nail right on the head. It's very
unfortunate, but sadly true, that some people just aren't equipped
to be parents. Murdering the preborn child because of the
ineptitude of the parents is absurd, so the next logical answer is
to sterilize these parents.
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/ap/article.html?mi=D8KFH6800&apc=9024
Sterilize bad parents, eh?
Well, well, well; that is EXACTLY the sort of thing that
anti-choicers like to accuse Margaret Sanger of. Scratch an
anti-choicer and you'll find a radical eugenicist.
I'll remember this the next time you spout off about Sanger
I "spout" off about Margeret Sanger because I feel it's necessary to
educate folks about what a 2 faced
racist this woman was.
Unlike you, right? I guess you're not a woman, eh?
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
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01 Oct 2006 06:04:52 PM |
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J Young wrote:
<spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote...
J Young wrote:
Councilman Shirley has hit the nail right on the head. It's very
unfortunate, but sadly true, that some people just aren't equipped to
parents. Murdering the preborn child because of the ineptitude of the
be parents is absurd, so the next logical answer is to sterilize these
parents.
Sterilize bad parents, eh?
Well, well, well; that is EXACTLY the sort of thing that anti-choicers
like to accuse Margaret Sanger of. Scratch an anti-choicer and you'll
find a radical eugenicist.
I'll remember this the next time you spout off about Sanger
I "spout" off about Margeret Sanger because
you are a lying hypocrite who accuses dead women of beliefs and actions
you approve of. This is just another example of your two-faced
slithering, IBen.
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01 Oct 2006 06:01:12 PM |
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J Young wrote:
spartakus@my-deja.com wrote...
J Young wrote:
Councilman Shirley has hit the nail right on the head. It's very
unfortunate, but sadly true, that some people just aren't equipped to be
parents. Murdering the preborn child because of the ineptitude of the
parents is absurd, so the next logical answer is to sterilize these
parents.
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/ap/article.html?mi=D8KFH6800&apc=9024
Sterilize bad parents, eh?
Well, well, well; that is EXACTLY the sort of thing that anti-choicers
like to accuse Margaret Sanger of. Scratch an anti-choicer and you'll
find a radical eugenicist.
I'll remember this the next time you spout off about Sanger
I "spout" off about Margeret Sanger because
you're a lying hypocrite who accuses dead women of beliefs and actions
YOU approve of. I am not impressed with your two-faced slithering,
IBen.
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01 Oct 2006 11:50:54 AM |
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Ku Klux Kook "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:DpadnQ6oRMJOS4LYnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@giganews.com...
<Totally obsessesed, like a few of Usenet's less famous lemmings, with "J
Young", spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1159676288.032078.44320@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
J Young wrote:
Councilman Shirley has hit the nail right on the head. It's very
unfortunate, but sadly true, that some people just aren't equipped to
be parents. Murdering the preborn child because of the ineptitude of
the parents is absurd, so the next logical answer is to sterilize these
parents.
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/ap/article.html?mi=D8KFH6800&apc=9024
Sterilize bad parents, eh?
Well, well, well; that is EXACTLY the sort of thing that anti-choicers
like to accuse Margaret Sanger of. Scratch an anti-choicer and you'll
find a radical eugenicist.
I'll remember this the next time you spout off about Sanger
I "spout" off about Margeret Sanger because I feel it's necessary to
educate folks about what a 2 faced
racist this woman was.
It there's *one* thing you know about, IBen, it's "two-faced racists":
"DUNE COONS. I like it.Hope you don't mind if I use it."
From: (Jon Young)
Message-ID: <25e1e54f.0404282033.3c875ee6@posting.google.com>
"If these filthy wetbacks.."
From: youngopinions@aol.com, cancelled by "J", but reviewable via:
Message-ID: <e38pfu$hp7$6@news.ks.uiuc.edu>
"J" on the Jews:
"Those filthy bastards killed Christ.Now they want to
destroy the entire middle east."
Message-ID: <5a858a1e.0403160718.2241d13a@posting.google.com>
"This idiocy about the goats is more attributable to the fact that these are
Africans you're discussing; not the brightest, most rational of people"
From: "J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1d-dnS6HIquQ8JDYnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@giganews.com>
LC~ And let's not even reference "J's" altered ego "IBen".
"I'm not much for poetry but I'll give it a shot:
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Watch your wallets
Here comes a Jew"
From: "J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: A poem for Jews.
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 00:21:25 -0400
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01 Oct 2006 11:54:19 AM |
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J Young wrote:
Councilman Shirley has hit the nail right on the head. It's very
unfortunate, but sadly true, that some people just aren't equipped to be
parents. Murdering the preborn child because of the ineptitude of the
parents is absurd, so the next logical answer is to sterilize these parents.
So does that mean Bush 1 should be steralized because his son is a
drunken coke-addled lying criminal mass murderer, and Bush 2 should be
steralized because his daughters are out of control?
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02 Oct 2006 08:21:09 AM |
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Just out of curiosity: would people who have been sterilized be allowed to get
married? After all, marriage exists solely for the purpose of procreation, which
is why same sex couples are refused those legal protections. Someone who has
been sterilized has absolutely no chance of having children; that is the point,
right? Therefore their marriage is automatically dissolved and they are
permanently banned from marriage. Right?
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
Help defend marriage in Washington state!
http://www.wa-doma.org
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01 Oct 2006 08:13:43 AM |
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On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 23:23:16 -0400, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
in news message <WfadnYskSqJ-qYLYnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:
Councilman Shirley has hit the nail right on the head. It's very
unfortunate, but sadly true, that some people just aren't equipped to be
parents. Murdering the preborn child because of the ineptitude of the
parents is absurd, so the next logical answer is to sterilize these parents.
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/ap/article.html?mi=D8KFH6800&apc=9024
A City Council member, reacting to a video store holdup believed to have
been carried out by children, says parents who can't properly care for their
kids should be sterilized.
"We pick up stray animals and spay them," Larry Shirley said in a story
published Saturday by The Post and Courier of Charleston. "These mothers
need to be spayed if they can't take care of theirs. Once they have a child
and it's running the street, to let them continue to have children is
totally unacceptable."
And the fathers should be castrated? Or are male gonads sacrosanct to
the City Council?
Liz #658 BAAWA
4th Law: Most people cannot imagine a god morally superior
to themselves; if you want to know what such a person would
do if they had ultimate power, ask them about their deity.
-- Abner Mintz
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30 Sep 2006 10:57:57 PM |
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On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 23:23:16 -0400, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
Councilman Shirley has hit the nail right on the head. It's very
unfortunate, but sadly true, that some people just aren't equipped to be
parents. Murdering the preborn child because of the ineptitude of the
parents is absurd, so the next logical answer is to sterilize these parents.
I'd say let's start with yours, but it's already to late for that.
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01 Oct 2006 12:05:23 AM |
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On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 23:23:16 -0400, J Young wrote:
Councilman Shirley has hit the nail right on the head. It's very
unfortunate, but sadly true, that some people just aren't equipped to be
parents. Murdering the preborn child because of the ineptitude of the
parents is absurd, so the next logical answer is to sterilize these parents.
Godwin be damned, that's about as Nazi as you get...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
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01 Oct 2006 12:36:20 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:n0ITg.11986$7I1.8999@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 23:23:16 -0400, J Young wrote:
Councilman Shirley has hit the nail right on the head. It's very
unfortunate, but sadly true, that some people just aren't equipped to be
parents. Murdering the preborn child because of the ineptitude of the
parents is absurd, so the next logical answer is to sterilize these
parents.
Godwin be damned, that's about as Nazi as you get...
Margret Sanger, the great leftist that she was, and also the founder of
planned parenthood had the very same ideas, her and hitler were buddies
together when it came to exterminating humans, they pretty much thought
alike, but hey they were both leftists.
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01 Oct 2006 08:57:08 PM |
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Dana wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote...
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 23:23:16 -0400, J Young wrote:
Councilman Shirley has hit the nail right on the head. It's very
unfortunate, but sadly true, that some people just aren't equipped to be
parents. Murdering the preborn child because of the ineptitude of the
parents is absurd, so the next logical answer is to sterilize these
parents.
Godwin be damned, that's about as Nazi as you get...
Margret Sanger, the great leftist that she was, and also the founder of
planned parenthood had the very same ideas,
No she didn't.
her and hitler were buddies
a bald-faced lie.
together when it came to exterminating humans, they pretty much thought
alike, but hey they were both leftists.
Hitler was *not* a "leftist".
Margaret Sanger was never a Nazi, and neither were the members of the
American eugenics movement. During the first third of the 20th
century, Sanger tried to build support for artificial birth control by
seeking support from anywhere she could find it. She was willing to
support other causes that dovetailed with hers. And at the time,
eugenics was more socially acceptable than women's rights and
artificial birth control.
Sanger did offer her *qualified* support to the eugenics movement for a
brief time, until she realized that eugenics was inextricably
intertwined with racism and class bias. Many of the pro-eugenics words
attributed to Sanger in various right-to-lie tracts were actually
authored by someone else or else are complete fabrications.
So, Sanger was not a whole-hearted supporter of the eugenics movement,
though certain members of that movement tried very hard to win her
over. As for the Nazis, they had a way of co-opting many otherwise
respectable sources to further their agenda; for example, Martin
Luther, Richard Wagner and the eugenics movement.
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01 Oct 2006 08:29:17 AM |
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Dana wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote...
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 23:23:16 -0400, J Young wrote:
Councilman Shirley has hit the nail right on the head. It's very
unfortunate, but sadly true, that some people just aren't equipped to be
parents. Murdering the preborn child because of the ineptitude of the
parents is absurd, so the next logical answer is to sterilize these
parents.
Godwin be damned, that's about as Nazi as you get...
Margret Sanger, the great leftist that she was, and also the founder of
planned parenthood had the very same ideas, her and hitler were buddies
together when it came to exterminating humans, they pretty much thought
alike, but hey they were both leftists.
And yet JYoung/IBen is praising a councilman who said the same things
you accuse Sanger of saying. Why do JYoung/IBen and this councilman
get a pass?
Btw, you are lying about Sanger and I will provide a refutation in
another post.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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01 Oct 2006 12:21:26 AM |
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In News 12huk0j64kmb569@corp.supernews.com,, Dana at raff242@yahoo.com,
typed this:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:n0ITg.11986$7I1.8999@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 23:23:16 -0400, J Young wrote:
Councilman Shirley has hit the nail right on the head. It's very
unfortunate, but sadly true, that some people just aren't equipped
to be parents. Murdering the preborn child because of the
ineptitude of the parents is absurd, so the next logical answer is
to sterilize these parents.
Godwin be damned, that's about as Nazi as you get...
Margret Sanger, the great leftist that she was, and also the founder
of planned parenthood had the very same ideas, her and hitler were
buddies together when it came to exterminating humans, they pretty
much thought alike, but hey they were both leftists.
You're so full of ***** your eyes are brown.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Dana" |
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01 Oct 2006 12:45:45 AM |
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"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL13@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:qfITg.5309$o71.162@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News 12huk0j64kmb569@corp.supernews.com,, Dana at raff242@yahoo.com,
typed this:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:n0ITg.11986$7I1.8999@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 23:23:16 -0400, J Young wrote:
Councilman Shirley has hit the nail right on the head. It's very
unfortunate, but sadly true, that some people just aren't equipped
to be parents. Murdering the preborn child because of the
ineptitude of the parents is absurd, so the next logical answer is
to sterilize these parents.
Godwin be damned, that's about as Nazi as you get...
Margret Sanger, the great leftist that she was, and also the founder
of planned parenthood had the very same ideas, her and hitler were
buddies together when it came to exterminating humans, they pretty
much thought alike, but hey they were both leftists.
You're so full of ***** your eyes are brown.
Maybe you should read up on Margret Sanger
http://www.blackgenocide.org/negro.html
Margaret Sanger aligned herself with the eugenicists whose ideology
prevailed in the early 20th century. Eugenicists strongly espoused racial
supremacy and "purtiy"," particularly of the "Aryan" race. Eugenicists hoped
to purify the bloodlines and improve the race by encouraging the "fit" to
reproduce and the "unfit" to restrict their reproduction. They sought to
contain the "inferior" races through segregation, sterilization, birth
control and abortion.
Sanger embraced Malthusian eugenics. Thomas Robert Malthus, a 19th century
cleric and professor of political economy, believed a population time bomb
threatened the existence of the human race. He viewed social problems such
as poverty, deprivation and hunger as evidence of this "population crisis."
According to writer George Grant, Malthus condemned charities and other
forms of benevolence, because he believed they only exacerbated the
problems. His answer was to restrict population growth of certain groups of
people. His theories of population growth and economic stability became the
basis for national and international social policy. Grant quotes from
Malthus' magnum opus, An Essay on the Principle of Population, published in
six editions from 1798 to 1826:
All children born, beyond what would be required to keep up the population
to a desired level, must necessarily perish, unless room is made for them by
the deaths of grown persons. We should facilitate, instead of foolishly and
vainly endeavoring to impede, the operations of nature in producing this
mortality.
Malthus disciples believed if Western civilization were to survive, the
physically unfit, the materially poor, the spiritually diseased, the
racially inferior, and the mentally incompetent had to be suppressed and
isolated-or even, perhaps, eliminated. His disciples felt the subtler and
more "scientific" approaches of education, contraception, sterilization and
abortion were more "practical and acceptable ways" to ease the pressures of
the alleged overpopulation.
Critics of Malthusianism said the group "produced a new vocabulary of
mumbo-jumbo. It was all hard-headed, scientific and relentless." Further,
historical facts have proved the Malthusian mathematical scheme regarding
overpopulation to be inaccurate, though many still believe them.
Despite the falsehoods of Malthus' overpopulation claims, Sanger nonetheless
immersed herself in Malthusian eugenics. Grant wrote she argued for birth
control using the "scientifically verified" threat of poverty, sickness,
racial tension and overpopulation as its background. Sanger's publication,
The Birth Control Review (founded in 1917) regularly published pro-eugenic
articles from eugenicists, such as Ernst Ruin. Although Sanger ceased
editing The Birth Control Review in 1929, the ABCL continued to use it as a
platform for eugenic ideas.
Sanger built the work of the ABCL, and, ultimately, Planned Parenthood, on
the ideas and resources of the eugenics movement. Grant reported that
"virtually all of the organization's board members were eugenicists."
Eugenicists financed the early projects, from the opening of birth control
clinics to the publishing of "revolutionary" literature. Eugenicists
comprised the speakers at conferences, authors of literature and the
providers of services "almost without the exception." And Planned Parenthood
's international work was originally housed in the offices of the Eugenics
Society. The two organizations were intertwined for years.
The ABCL became a legal entity on April 22, 1922, in New York. Before that,
Sanger illegally operated a birth control clinic in October 1916, in the
Brownsville section of Brooklyn, New York, which eventually closed. The
clinic serviced the poor immigrants who heavily populated the area-those
deemed "unfit" to reproduce.
Sanger's early writings clearly reflected Malthus' influence. She writes:
Organized charity itself is the symptom of a malignant social disease.
Those vast, complex, interrelated organizations aiming to control and to
diminish the spread of misery and destitution and all the menacing evils
that spring out of this sinisterly fertile soil, are the surest sign that
our civilization has bred, is breeding and perpetuating constantly
increasing numbers of defectives, delinquents and dependents.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Official in S.C.: Sterilize bad parents |
01 Oct 2006 12:45:16 AM |
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Dana <raff242@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL13@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
Dana at raff242@yahoo.com,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
Councilman Shirley has hit the nail right on the head. It's very
unfortunate, but sadly true, that some people just aren't equipped
to be parents. Murdering the preborn child because of the
ineptitude of the parents is absurd, so the next logical answer is
to sterilize these parents.
Godwin be damned, that's about as Nazi as you get...
Margret Sanger, the great leftist that she was, and also the founder
of planned parenthood had the very same ideas, her and hitler were
buddies together when it came to exterminating humans, they pretty
much thought alike, but hey they were both leftists.
You're so full of ***** your eyes are brown.
Maybe you should read up on Margret Sanger
Maybe you shouldn't swallow all the roght-wing hate propaganda you're
fed. Until Sanger even basic contraception was illegal and women had
children until it killed them.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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01 Oct 2006 12:53:23 AM |
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On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 05:45:16 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:
Dana <raff242@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL13@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
Dana at raff242@yahoo.com,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
Councilman Shirley has hit the nail right on the head. It's very
unfortunate, but sadly true, that some people just aren't equipped
to be parents. Murdering the preborn child because of the
ineptitude of the parents is absurd, so the next logical answer is
to sterilize these parents.
Godwin be damned, that's about as Nazi as you get...
Margret Sanger, the great leftist that she was, and also the founder
of planned parenthood had the very same ideas, her and hitler were
buddies together when it came to exterminating humans, they pretty
much thought alike, but hey they were both leftists.
You're so full of ***** your eyes are brown.
Maybe you should read up on Margret Sanger
Maybe you shouldn't swallow all the roght-wing hate propaganda you're
fed. Until Sanger even basic contraception was illegal and women had
children until it killed them.
What difference does it make whether Sanger believed in eugenics anyway?
It's "okay" long as you can find a "liberal" that did it?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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| User: "" |
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01 Oct 2006 08:44:24 PM |
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Dana wrote:
Maybe you should read up on Margret Sanger
http://www.blackgenocide.org/negro.html
The owners of blackgenocide.org do not have a lot of credibility with
the African-American community, possibly for saying that a woman of
color who chooses to abort an unwanted pregnancy is guilty of genocide.
Here is a better-documented on-line biography of Margaret Sanger:
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/who-we-are/margaret-sanger-planned-parenthood-founder.htm
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| User: "Dana" |
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| Title: Abortion - A Liberal Cause? |
01 Oct 2006 12:51:09 AM |
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http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~rauch/abortion_eugenics/peterson.html
Abortion - A Liberal Cause?
by Jefferis Kent Peterson
Abortion has been numbered among the liberal causes of modern politics.
Abortion is identified with women's rights just as the Civil Rights Movement
was identified with equal rights for African Americans and other minorities.
But is abortion really a liberal cause? A careful examination of the history
of the abortion rights movement would shock even the most ardent defender of
a woman's right to choose. The founders of the movement were in fact racists
who despised the poor and who were searching for a way to prevent colored
races from reproducing. Rather than defending the rights of the poorest of
the poor, which is the tradition of liberalism, the founders advocated
abortion as a means of eliminating the poor; especially Blacks, Jews, Slavs,
and Italians. And rather than desiring to help the poor through welfare
programs, they wanted to eliminate all charities and government aid. Today,
most liberals would be shocked to know of this racist heritage. Not only is
the founding of the abortion rights movement anti-liberal, but it may have
been an attempt to promote racial genocide.
The modern day abortion rights movement began as the American Birth Control
League in 1921. Among its founding board members were Margaret Sanger,
Lothrup Stoddard, and C. C. Little. The latter two people were known for
their racist views, but Margaret Sanger continually shows up in the company
of other racists. In fact, she was the guest speaker at a Ku Klux Klan rally
in Silverlake, N. J. in 1926.[1] Not only did she not disassociate herself
from these racist views, her own writings leave little doubt as to her
sympathies. In implementing a plan called the "Negro Project," that was
designed to sterilize Blacks and reduce the number of Black children being
born in the south, Sanger wrote:
"[We propose to] hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with
social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most
successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal.
And we do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro
population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if
it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." [2]
Sanger also viewed welfare as a detriment to society because it increased
the number of poor blacks and foreigners. "Organized charity (modern
welfare) is the symptom of a malignant social disease, increasing numbers of
defectives, delinquents, and dependents. My criticism, therefore, is not
directed at the 'failure' of philanthropy, but rather at its success."[3]
The urban poor, and their increasing numbers, she called, "an ever widening
margin of biological waste."[4] Welfare, she believed, encouraged the
breeding of the poor, or "human waste," as she called them. She feared that
welfare would encourage the urban poor by having them give birth to those
"stocks that are the most detrimental to the future of the race"[5]
Therefore, she believed that the government should actively encourage the
sterilization of those who are unfit to propagate the race, using as her
motto: "More [children] from the fit, less from the unfit."[6]
No modern day liberal would dare question the need for some form of
government aid to the poor. But Margaret Sanger wanted more for the
privileged and less for the poor. How did someone who was so obviously
biased and lacking in compassion become the heroine of todays liberals? It
is a strange reversal of political direction. It is as if the Democratic
Party suddenly turned around and supported David Duke for Supreme Court
Justice.
Margaret Sanger also continued to advocate for her racial prejudices in her
magazine, Birth Control Review. In six successive issues of that magazine,
she advocated limiting the racial quotas of immigration of "Slavs, Hebrews,
and Latins,"[7] because of their lower intelligence! Although Ms. Sanger was
the editor of the magazine, she shared its pages with the racist co-founders
of the American Birth Control League. Board member Lothrup Stoddard wrote
the racist book The Rising Tide of Color Against White World-Supremacy [8],
which was reviewed favorably in Birth Control Review.[9] Co-founder and
board member, C. C. Little, was president of the Third Race Betterment
Conference, and he advocated preserving the purity of "Yankee stock" through
limiting the births of non-Whites.[10]
Margaret Sanger was also strongly anti-Semitic. She started a similar birth
control organization with a man named Henry Pratt Fairchild, who wrote The
Melting Pot Mistake, in which he accused "the Jews" of diluting the true
American stock.[11] In his book, Race and Nationality, (1947), Fairchild
blamed anti-Semitism and the holocaust in part on "the Jews."[12].
Finally, Margaret Sanger and her organization began to be primary sponsors
of abortion rights during her lifetime. But because she had associated
herself with Adolph Hitler, praising him for his racial politics of
eugenics, she changed the name of American Birth Control League to Planned
Parenthood during WWII in order to disguise her racist past.[13] Today, her
organization, Planned Parenthood, is still in the forefront of advocating
abortion as a means of eliminating the unwanted and "unfit." Not only does
the organization perform thousands abortions each year, it also receives
100's of millions of tax dollars each year through Federal and State
Governments.[14] And rather than being in the forefront of a woman's right
to choose, International Planned Parenthood is a primary advocate for the
Chinese Government's policy of forcing women to have abortions against their
will, and it also advocates for the sterilization of Third World non-Whites
across the globe.[15] It seems that PP is "pro-choice" when trying to
impress the U.S. media, but anti-choice in the actual implementation of its
world-wide agenda.
But has Planned Parenthood changed? It is significant to note that Planned
Parenthood has never distanced itself from the vision and ideology of its
founder. Successive presidents of the organization have praised her work,
including Faye Wattleton, who said, "As we celebrate the 100th birthday of
Margaret Sanger, our courageous leader, we should be very proud of what we
are and what our mission is. It is a very grand mission; abortion is only
the tip of the iceberg."[16]
One can only wonder how abortion rights came to be adopted by liberals in
the Democratic Party, or any other party. It is difficult to image how it
came to be identified with other liberal causes. Through a slick media
campaign and effective sloganeering, Planned Parenthood painted abortion as
a compassionate and caring alternative to childbirth. Their motivation
however may be altogether different. It seems that abortion still today,
rather than being seen as a way of helping the poor and minorities, is
considered the easiest solution for our economic problems. Don't help the
poor, just eliminate them.
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01 Oct 2006 12:45:33 AM |
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Dana <raff242@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~rauch/abortion_eugenics/peterson.html
Abortion - A Liberal Cause?
by Jefferis Kent Peterson
Fascists hate liberalism.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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