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User: "osprey"
Date: 28 Nov 2003 03:31:43 AM
Object: O.k Liberals, you finally got me
Well, I guess for once I can actually say liberals got one on me.
President Bush lied
He said he was going to be on his ranch this Thanksgiving.
.

User: "--sexkitten--"

Title: Re: O.k Liberals, you finally got me 28 Nov 2003 07:11:56 AM
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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Well, I guess for once I can actually say liberals got one on me.

President Bush lied

He said he was going to be on his ranch this Thanksgiving.

IMPEACH THE *****!!!!!!!
:))
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: O.k Liberals, you finally got me 28 Nov 2003 08:21:46 AM
"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twofuckspam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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Well, I guess for once I can actually say liberals got one on me.

President Bush lied

He said he was going to be on his ranch this Thanksgiving.


IMPEACH THE *****!!!!!!!
:))

ROFL
What Bush done yesterday stunned people all over. Do you know what had to
be involved for him to do what he done?
The troops went NUTS. What a moral booster. And what guts it took for Bush
to fly into hostile territory.
I have a WHOLE new level of respect for what he done. And Bush just gained
HUGE support from the military. Naturally democrats are going to cry fowl,
and Hillary is going to have a cow because the spot light was taken off of
her.
GOOD JOB BUSH!!!
.
User: "Krisblake"

Title: Re: O.k Liberals, you finally got me 29 Nov 2003 07:20:46 AM
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:21:46 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twofuckspam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bq7hk5$1vcncm$1@ID-163025.news.uni-berlin.de...


"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:8912d58d.0311280131.6d248391@posting.google.com...

Well, I guess for once I can actually say liberals got one on me.

President Bush lied

He said he was going to be on his ranch this Thanksgiving.


IMPEACH THE *****!!!!!!!
:))



ROFL

What Bush done yesterday stunned people all over. Do you know what had to
be involved for him to do what he done?

So what?
Thousands upon thousands of the men and women had to leave their
families behind and sacrifice themselves upon his orders. What makes
him more special than those soldiers?
.
User: "Craig Chilton"

Title: Re: O.k Liberals, you finally got me 29 Nov 2003 08:42:39 AM
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:20:46 -0500,
Krisblake <Krisblakemy2luvs@aol.com> wrote:

"Osprey" wrote:

"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twofuckspam@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Well, I guess for once I can actually say liberals got one on me.

President Bush lied

He said he was going to be on his ranch this Thanksgiving.

IMPEACH THE *****!!!!!!!
:))

ROFL

What Bush done yesterday stunned people all over. Do you
know what had to be involved for him to do what he done?


So what?

Thousands upon thousands of the men and women had to leave their
families behind and sacrifice themselves upon his orders. What makes
him more special than those soldiers?

Don't you know? He was APPOINTED.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
GOD'S "WIN-WIN-WIN" SITUATION
God is omniscient and omnipotent. That means that He has
always KNOWN everything *about* everything, past present and
future. And that He may freely INTERACT, uniquely, with any
person, group, or all humanity, however and whenever He
chooses.
Trillions (indeed, even octillions) of years ago, God KNEW
just *which* human entities (from sperm and ova on, inclusive)
would be born, and which ones would NOT, for whatever
reason. In the case of Jeremiah, He interacted BEFORE
Jeremiah reached the womb -- while Jeremiah was STILL at
the sperm-and-ovum stage! (Jer. 1:5). In THAT case, at least,
the soul had been instilled at the sperm-and-egg stage -- the
stage at which God communicated with Jeremiah.
So it's VERY possible that God instills ALL souls at that
stage... since God ALREADY knows which of them will later
become people, and which ones will not. And if He chooses
to instill souls in ALL of those, then heaven must be a VERY
populated place. But any potential people that happened to
be aborted then got a FREE pass to heaven. And missed the
RISK that is faced by all of us here on earth.
And then, there also is the very REAL possibility that God
chooses to instill souls ONLY in the entities that He KNOWS,
beforehand, *will* be BORN. Then there are NO free passes
to heaven. But that's no loss to the QUINTILLION human
entities, daily, that never knew the difference.
Any way you look at it, it's a "win-win" situation for God.
Which makes it no great surprise that He never said so much
as ONE SINGLE WORD against abortion. Since abortion is a
highly-valuable REMEDY that enables millions of women to put
their lives BACK on track, and gives them another chance to
pursue their full ranges of future opportunities, the availability of
it is FAR more in line with God's COMPASSION (and the
compassion that Jesus commanded us to show to others), than
it would be for women to be FORCED to carry-to-term against
their will, and see many of their opportunities and their well-being
destroyed. (Particularly since God ALSO was/is well-aware that
MOST women who DO obtain abortions go on later to HAVE
children, by choice, when the timing is better, and the circum-
stances and prospects for long-term stable family environments
are far more favorable.)
For God, the status quo is "win-win-win" -- all the way!
-- Posted to several relevant Usenet Groups on 10-21-2001.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
.
User: "Krisblake"

Title: Re: O.k Liberals, you finally got me 29 Nov 2003 11:45:16 AM
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:42:39 GMT,
(Craig Chilton)
wrote:

On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:20:46 -0500,
Krisblake <Krisblakemy2luvs@aol.com> wrote:

"Osprey" wrote:

"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twofuckspam@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:



Well, I guess for once I can actually say liberals got one on me.

President Bush lied

He said he was going to be on his ranch this Thanksgiving.


IMPEACH THE *****!!!!!!!
:))


ROFL

What Bush done yesterday stunned people all over. Do you
know what had to be involved for him to do what he done?


So what?

Thousands upon thousands of the men and women had to leave their
families behind and sacrifice themselves upon his orders. What makes
him more special than those soldiers?


Don't you know? He was APPOINTED.

That makes him worse then the average anti-choice keister.



-- Craig Chilton <

>

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
GOD'S "WIN-WIN-WIN" SITUATION

God is omniscient and omnipotent. That means that He has
always KNOWN everything *about* everything, past present and
future. And that He may freely INTERACT, uniquely, with any
person, group, or all humanity, however and whenever He
chooses.

Trillions (indeed, even octillions) of years ago, God KNEW
just *which* human entities (from sperm and ova on, inclusive)
would be born, and which ones would NOT, for whatever
reason. In the case of Jeremiah, He interacted BEFORE
Jeremiah reached the womb -- while Jeremiah was STILL at
the sperm-and-ovum stage! (Jer. 1:5). In THAT case, at least,
the soul had been instilled at the sperm-and-egg stage -- the
stage at which God communicated with Jeremiah.

So it's VERY possible that God instills ALL souls at that
stage... since God ALREADY knows which of them will later
become people, and which ones will not. And if He chooses
to instill souls in ALL of those, then heaven must be a VERY
populated place. But any potential people that happened to
be aborted then got a FREE pass to heaven. And missed the
RISK that is faced by all of us here on earth.

And then, there also is the very REAL possibility that God
chooses to instill souls ONLY in the entities that He KNOWS,
beforehand, *will* be BORN. Then there are NO free passes
to heaven. But that's no loss to the QUINTILLION human
entities, daily, that never knew the difference.

Any way you look at it, it's a "win-win" situation for God.
Which makes it no great surprise that He never said so much
as ONE SINGLE WORD against abortion. Since abortion is a
highly-valuable REMEDY that enables millions of women to put
their lives BACK on track, and gives them another chance to
pursue their full ranges of future opportunities, the availability of
it is FAR more in line with God's COMPASSION (and the
compassion that Jesus commanded us to show to others), than
it would be for women to be FORCED to carry-to-term against
their will, and see many of their opportunities and their well-being
destroyed. (Particularly since God ALSO was/is well-aware that
MOST women who DO obtain abortions go on later to HAVE
children, by choice, when the timing is better, and the circum-
stances and prospects for long-term stable family environments
are far more favorable.)

For God, the status quo is "win-win-win" -- all the way!

-- Posted to several relevant Usenet Groups on 10-21-2001.

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

.
User: "Craig Chilton"

Title: Re: O.k Liberals, you finally got me 29 Nov 2003 12:06:36 PM
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:45:16 -0500,
Krisblake <Krisblakemy2luvs@aol.com> wrote:

Craig chilton <

> wrote:

Krisblake <Krisblakemy2luvs@aol.com> wrote:

"Osprey" wrote:

"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twofuckspam@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Well, I guess for once I can actually say liberals got one on me.

President Bush lied

He said he was going to be on his ranch this Thanksgiving.

IMPEACH THE *****!!!!!!!
:))

ROFL

What Bush done yesterday stunned people all over. Do you
know what had to be involved for him to do what he done?

So what?

Thousands upon thousands of the men and women had to leave their
families behind and sacrifice themselves upon his orders. What makes
him more special than those soldiers?

Don't you know? He was APPOINTED.

That makes him worse then the average anti-choice keister.

Helen Thomas -- the journalist who sits near the front at every
Presidential news conference (even Bush's contrived ones), and
has known more Presidents close-up than almost anyone else alive
today, has his number precisely. She publicly called Bush Lite the
WORST American President in history!
-- Craig Chilton

.
User: "Krisblake"

Title: Re: O.k Liberals, you finally got me 29 Nov 2003 04:42:28 PM
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:06:36 GMT,
(Craig Chilton)
wrote:

On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:45:16 -0500,
Krisblake <Krisblakemy2luvs@aol.com> wrote:

Craig chilton <

> wrote:

Krisblake <Krisblakemy2luvs@aol.com> wrote:

"Osprey" wrote:

"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twofuckspam@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:



Well, I guess for once I can actually say liberals got one on me.

President Bush lied

He said he was going to be on his ranch this Thanksgiving.


IMPEACH THE *****!!!!!!!
:))


ROFL

What Bush done yesterday stunned people all over. Do you
know what had to be involved for him to do what he done?


So what?

Thousands upon thousands of the men and women had to leave their
families behind and sacrifice themselves upon his orders. What makes
him more special than those soldiers?


Don't you know? He was APPOINTED.


That makes him worse then the average anti-choice keister.


Helen Thomas -- the journalist who sits near the front at every
Presidential news conference (even Bush's contrived ones), and
has known more Presidents close-up than almost anyone else alive
today, has his number precisely. She publicly called Bush Lite the
WORST American President in history!

I buy that.



-- Craig Chilton


.





User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: O.k Liberals, you finally got me 28 Nov 2003 02:06:05 PM
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twofuckspam@hotmail.com> wrote in message

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message

Well, I guess for once I can actually say liberals got one on me.

President Bush lied

He said he was going to be on his ranch this Thanksgiving.


IMPEACH THE *****!!!!!!!
:))



ROFL

What Bush done yesterday stunned people all over. Do you know what had to
be involved for him to do what he done?

Put on a flight suit and have an aircraft carrier circle around off of
San Diego?

The troops went NUTS.

Which you know because you were there. Or because a carefully
selected group of friendly reporters were allowed to provide the
propa.., er, "news".
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: O.k Liberals, you finally got me 28 Nov 2003 03:57:58 PM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:bq89rc$doo$1@bolt.sonic.net...

Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twofuckspam@hotmail.com> wrote in message

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message


Well, I guess for once I can actually say liberals got one on me.

President Bush lied

He said he was going to be on his ranch this Thanksgiving.


IMPEACH THE *****!!!!!!!
:))



ROFL

What Bush done yesterday stunned people all over. Do you know what had

to

be involved for him to do what he done?


Put on a flight suit and have an aircraft carrier circle around off of
San Diego?

The troops went NUTS.


Which you know because you were there. Or because a carefully
selected group of friendly reporters were allowed to provide the
propa.., er, "news".

Jealousy gets you nowhere
.
User: "Krisblake"

Title: Re: O.k Liberals, you finally got me 29 Nov 2003 07:21:38 AM
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:57:58 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:bq89rc$doo$1@bolt.sonic.net...

Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twofuckspam@hotmail.com> wrote in message

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message


Well, I guess for once I can actually say liberals got one on me.

President Bush lied

He said he was going to be on his ranch this Thanksgiving.


IMPEACH THE *****!!!!!!!
:))



ROFL

What Bush done yesterday stunned people all over. Do you know what had

to

be involved for him to do what he done?


Put on a flight suit and have an aircraft carrier circle around off of
San Diego?

The troops went NUTS.


Which you know because you were there. Or because a carefully
selected group of friendly reporters were allowed to provide the
propa.., er, "news".



Jealousy gets you nowhere

It doesn't. So stop frothing at the mouth.
(By the way, what we have to be jealous of, Osprey?)
.

User: "Slate"

Title: Re: O.k Liberals, you finally got me 28 Nov 2003 06:45:07 PM
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:57:58 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:bq89rc$doo$1@bolt.sonic.net...

Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twofuckspam@hotmail.com> wrote in message

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message


Well, I guess for once I can actually say liberals got one on me.

President Bush lied

He said he was going to be on his ranch this Thanksgiving.


IMPEACH THE *****!!!!!!!
:))



ROFL

What Bush done yesterday stunned people all over. Do you know what had

to

be involved for him to do what he done?


Put on a flight suit and have an aircraft carrier circle around off of
San Diego?

The troops went NUTS.


Which you know because you were there. Or because a carefully
selected group of friendly reporters were allowed to provide the
propa.., er, "news".



Jealousy gets you nowhere

Osprey Quote:
"Well, I guess for once I can actually say liberals got one on me.
President Bush lied." <end>
Gee, just once? There are pages of them.
Bush LIES....
What he says to American and British veterans at a White House
ceremony:
"Having been here and seeing the care that these troops get is
comforting for me and Laura. We are -- should and must provide the
best care for anybody who is willing to put their life in harm's way."
Bush, 1/17/03
What he does for veterans:
Bush's visit came on the same day that the Administration announced it
is immediately cutting off access to its health care system to
approximately 164,000 veterans. [W. Post, 1/17/03].
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What he says on border security:
"We're working hard to make sure your job is easier, that the port is
safer. The Customs Service is working with overseas ports and shippers
to improve its knowledge of container shipments, assessing risk so
that we have a better feel of who we ought to look at, what we ought
to worry about." Bush, 6/24/02]
What he does:
The President’s 2003 and 2004 budget provides zero for port security
grants. The GOP Congress has provided only $250 million for port
security grants (35% less than authorized). Additionally, in August,
the President vetoed all $39 million for the Container Security
Initiative which he specifically touted. <end>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What he says on fiscal responsibility:
"One of the ways we've got to make sure that we keep our economy
strong is to be wise about how we spend our money. If you overspend,
it creates a fundamental weakness in the foundation of economic
growth. And so I'm working with Congress to make sure they hear the
message -- the message of fiscal responsibility." Bush, 9/16/02
What he does:
Less than 6 months after this pronouncement, Bush proposed a budget
that would put the government more than $300 billion into deficit. As
National Journal noted on 2/12/02, Bush’s own 2004 budget tables show
that WITHOUT Bush’s tax and budgetary proposals, the deficit would
decline after 2006, but WITH Bush’s proposals, the deficit would grow
indefinitely.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Slate
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier...just as
long as I'm the dictator."
[Bush] Washington, DC, Dec. 18, 2000, during his first trip to
Washington as President-Elect.
.
User: "Bob"

Title: Re: O.k Liberals, you finally got me 28 Nov 2003 08:32:07 PM
Slate <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:8glfsvgff5390290k458o4ntso42jgjvv9@4ax.com:

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:57:58 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:bq89rc$doo$1@bolt.sonic.net...

Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twofuckspam@hotmail.com> wrote in message

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message


Well, I guess for once I can actually say liberals got one on
me.

President Bush lied

He said he was going to be on his ranch this Thanksgiving.


IMPEACH THE *****!!!!!!!
:))



ROFL

What Bush done yesterday stunned people all over. Do you know what
had

to

be involved for him to do what he done?


Put on a flight suit and have an aircraft carrier circle around off
of San Diego?

The troops went NUTS.


Which you know because you were there. Or because a carefully
selected group of friendly reporters were allowed to provide the
propa.., er, "news".



Jealousy gets you nowhere



Osprey Quote:
"Well, I guess for once I can actually say liberals got one on me.
President Bush lied." <end>

Gee, just once? There are pages of them.


Bush LIES....

What he says to American and British veterans at a White House
ceremony:

"Having been here and seeing the care that these troops get is
comforting for me and Laura. We are -- should and must provide the
best care for anybody who is willing to put their life in harm's way."
Bush, 1/17/03

What he does for veterans:

Bush's visit came on the same day that the Administration announced it
is immediately cutting off access to its health care system to
approximately 164,000 veterans. [W. Post, 1/17/03].

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What he says on border security:


"We're working hard to make sure your job is easier, that the port is
safer. The Customs Service is working with overseas ports and shippers
to improve its knowledge of container shipments, assessing risk so
that we have a better feel of who we ought to look at, what we ought
to worry about." Bush, 6/24/02]

What he does:

The President’s 2003 and 2004 budget provides zero for port security
grants. The GOP Congress has provided only $250 million for port
security grants (35% less than authorized). Additionally, in August,
the President vetoed all $39 million for the Container Security
Initiative which he specifically touted. <end>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What he says on fiscal responsibility:

"One of the ways we've got to make sure that we keep our economy
strong is to be wise about how we spend our money. If you overspend,
it creates a fundamental weakness in the foundation of economic
growth. And so I'm working with Congress to make sure they hear the
message -- the message of fiscal responsibility." Bush, 9/16/02


What he does:

Less than 6 months after this pronouncement, Bush proposed a budget
that would put the government more than $300 billion into deficit. As
National Journal noted on 2/12/02, Bush’s own 2004 budget tables show
that WITHOUT Bush’s tax and budgetary proposals, the deficit would
decline after 2006, but WITH Bush’s proposals, the deficit would grow
indefinitely.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Slate

"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier...just as
long as I'm the dictator."
[Bush] Washington, DC, Dec. 18, 2000, during his first trip to
Washington as President-Elect.

Too bad Bush and his goose-stepping storm troopers didn't think about
sneaking in and out of England like they did Iraq.

.

User: "osprey"

Title: Re: O.k Liberals, you finally got me 29 Nov 2003 12:59:21 AM
Slate <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<8glfsvgff5390290k458o4ntso42jgjvv9@4ax.com>...

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:57:58 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:bq89rc$doo$1@bolt.sonic.net...

Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twofuckspam@hotmail.com> wrote in message

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message


Well, I guess for once I can actually say liberals got one on me.

President Bush lied

He said he was going to be on his ranch this Thanksgiving.


IMPEACH THE *****!!!!!!!
:))



ROFL

What Bush done yesterday stunned people all over. Do you know what had

to

be involved for him to do what he done?


Put on a flight suit and have an aircraft carrier circle around off of
San Diego?

The troops went NUTS.


Which you know because you were there. Or because a carefully
selected group of friendly reporters were allowed to provide the
propa.., er, "news".



Jealousy gets you nowhere



Osprey Quote:
"Well, I guess for once I can actually say liberals got one on me.
President Bush lied." <end>

Gee, just once? There are pages of them.


Bush LIES....

What he says to American and British veterans at a White House
ceremony:

"Having been here and seeing the care that these troops get is
comforting for me and Laura. We are -- should and must provide the
best care for anybody who is willing to put their life in harm's way."
Bush, 1/17/03

What he does for veterans:

Bush's visit came on the same day that the Administration announced it
is immediately cutting off access to its health care system to
approximately 164,000 veterans. [W. Post, 1/17/03].

Except those cuts didn't happen.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What he says on border security:


"We're working hard to make sure your job is easier, that the port is
safer. The Customs Service is working with overseas ports and shippers
to improve its knowledge of container shipments, assessing risk so
that we have a better feel of who we ought to look at, what we ought
to worry about." Bush, 6/24/02]

What he does:

The President?s 2003 and 2004 budget provides zero for port security
grants. The GOP Congress has provided only $250 million for port
security grants (35% less than authorized). Additionally, in August,
the President vetoed all $39 million for the Container Security
Initiative which he specifically touted. <end>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What he says on fiscal responsibility:

"One of the ways we've got to make sure that we keep our economy
strong is to be wise about how we spend our money. If you overspend,
it creates a fundamental weakness in the foundation of economic
growth. And so I'm working with Congress to make sure they hear the
message -- the message of fiscal responsibility." Bush, 9/16/02


What he does:

Less than 6 months after this pronouncement, Bush proposed a budget
that would put the government more than $300 billion into deficit. As
National Journal noted on 2/12/02, Bush?s own 2004 budget tables show
that WITHOUT Bush?s tax and budgetary proposals, the deficit would
decline after 2006, but WITH Bush?s proposals, the deficit would grow
indefinitely.

It wouldn't matter if Bush was president, or any other republican.
Liberals are going to cry about deficit. Ignoring that many Democrat
presidents also increased our deficit prior to Reagan.
Fact is: Most Americans could care less about the deficit. Right now
the economy is stronger, recovering, stock market is doing much
better, jobless rates at a 3 year low, GDP at a 30 year high.

I am not going to say Bush is perfect. And I can't explain all his
actions. I plan on voting for him again, as I am sure most Americans
will. Unless someone better comes along. If you don't like Bush,
fine. I really don't care. But don't pretend to be fair minded, when
you are not. You, like most liberals, would vote for the party, not
the person.
Since you are so willing to come forth and want to bash Bush, you need
to look no further than one of the liberal icon's Bill Clinton. Shall
we compare?
Yes, I think we shall.
Don't snip and run now.
BILL CLINTON'S KNOWN LIES
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
July 1991: Question: "Have you ever used Marijuana or any illegal
drugs?" Answer: "I've never broken any drug law." - Arkansas Gazette,
July 24th, 1991, p. 8B
Asked this 3 times, on 3 separate occasions, by 3 different
interviewers, your Great White Hope repeated this claim. Until faced
with irrefutable proof, that is.
Then he said:
March 29th, 1992: "I've never broken a state law. But when I was in
England I experimented with marijuana a time or two..."
Later, in that same interview, "No one has ever asked me that question
point-blank."
- The New York Times, March 30th, 1992, p.A15.
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On Jan. 19, 1992 Bill Clinton said, "I want to make it very clear that
this middle-class tax cut, in my view, is central to any attempt we're
going to make to have a short-term economic strategy."
But on Jan. 14, 1993 at a press conference, Bill Clinton said, "From
New Hampshire forward, for reasons that absolutely mystified me, the
press thought the most important issue in the race was the
middle-class tax cut. "I never did meet any voter who thought that."
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On Sept. 8,1992, Bill Clinton said, "The only people who will pay more
income taxes are the wealthiest 2 percent, those living in households
making over $200,000 a year."
In response to a Bush-Quayle ad that people with incomes of as little
as $36,000 would pay more taxes under the Clinton plan, Bill Clinton
said on Oct. 1, 1992, "It's a disgrace to the American people that the
president (Bush) of the United States would make a claim that is so
baseless, that is so without foundation, so shameless in its attempt
to get votes under false pretenses."
Yet the NY TIMES in the analysis of Clinton's budget wrote, "There are
tax increases for every family making more than $20,000 a year!"
"While Clinton continued to defend his middle-class tax cut publicly,
he privately expressed the view to his advisers that it was
intellectually dishonest." (The Agenda, by Bob Woodward, p. 31)
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In Business Week, July 6, 1992, Bill Clinton was quoted as saying,
"When I began the campaign, the projected deficit was $250 billion.
Now its up to $400 billion."
However in Time Magazine. 2 weeks later, Bill Clinton was quoted as
saying, "When I started in New Hampshire working with those numbers,
we felt the deficit was going to be around $250 billion a year, not
$400 billion." Which is it, Bill?
But then he said on Feb. 10, 1993, "The deficit of this country is
about $50 billion a year bigger than I was told it was going to be
before the election." --our President said this after "discovering"
that the deficit was $290 billion, $110 Billion LESS than he had
claimed in July! Which story are we to believe from our president??
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President Clinton said on March 23, 1993 at a press conference: "M
economic package will cut $500 billion from the deficit in five
years." Yet the projected deficit in 1998 with Clinton's budget is
$234 billion, the projected deficit in 2001 with Clinton budget is
$401 billion.(These figures come from Bill Clinton's budget document,
"A Vision of Change for America."-Feb. 1993.
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The Wall Street Journal Opinion-Editorial Page 2/21/95
NUMBERS GAME
It's the season to cut government, or at least to claim to, so we
perked up when we heard President Clinton declare in his State of the
Union address that he had cut (quote) more than 100,000 positions from
the federal bureaucracy in the last two years alone (unquote).
As they say in detective work, interesting - if true. So we decided to
pull out the new federal budget to check. What we discovered is that
Mr. Clinton isn't lying, but he isn't telling the whole truth either.
His speeches need an asterisk.
From 1993 to Fiscal Year 1996, the Clinton Administration will in fact
have cut the federal government by 157,000 full-time positions. But
there's a catch: 131,000 of those positions are civilian Defense jobs.
Those cuts reflect the inevitable post-cold War decline in military
spending, not some brave retrenchment in the overall size of
government.
There's another catch: Of the 26,000 positions to be cut from the
non-Defense side of Leviathan, 9,500 come from the Resolution Trust
Corp. and Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. Those two banking agencies
grew like Topsy to manage the savings and loan debacle, but are now
cutting back as the bailout ends. The RTC is even supposed to go out
of business this year. The bottom line is that over the course of the
Clinton presidency, the non-Defense, non-S&L part of the government
will cut a measly 16,500 full-time positions out of some 1.2 million.
In essence the domestic government is conducting business as usual.
Mr. Clinton also says he's making the federal establishment (quote)
the smallest it has been since John Kennedy was President (unquote).
But again, excluding Defense, total executive branch employment will
be 1,181,000 in 1996. Back in 1963, when JFK was President, total
non-Defense employment was a mere 861,000. Maybe that should be the
1996 goal for Republican budget- cutters; they could say they got the
idea from the President.
Are you referring to the guy who absolutely, positively guaranteed
that if he was elected governor of Arkansas in 1990 he would serve 4
years? The one who said that a 4% income tax rate on the wealthiest 2%
of the population would raise 165 billion dollars, reduce the deficit,
and allow a middle class tax cut? The one who claimed that the
republicans had killed the Lani Guinier nomination? The one who
claimed that he had decided to make himself available to the draft
after 4 acquaintances were killed in Viet Nam (rather than after his
birthday had been drawn #311 in the draft lottery)? The one who
claimed that "affirmative action "benefits white men?
Are you referring to that Clinton?
No, he said that the new gasoline tax (4 cent per gallon) would go to
a deficit reduction trust fund. No such fund has been established to
date... it is going to the general fund to fund their increased social
programs... check it out... call the government accounting office and
ask... they are stealing your money...
And I give you my word to do it without the blame game of the last
twelve years of Reagan and Bush.
Good, OOPS, that lasted almost a whole day!
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The NY Times reported that people earning under $100,000 paid an
additional $3 billion in '94.
But wait, Clinton and the media claimed that only the top 2% were
going to pay more taxes. Was that another lie from the Clinton
administration?
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According to liberal Democrats, anyone who makes a dollar more than
you is the "rich". On the issue of "taxes on the rich", consider the
following:
Most of the "rich" are smart business men & women... they own and run
their own businesses. In addition, Clinton passed a 1% increase in
corporate income taxes...
If you owned your own business, or if you were the CFO of a
corporation, and your cost of doing business went up, what would you
do ? You'd pass this cost on...
Should they feel the heat, so to speak, they pass the new costs on to
the principle consumers of the goods and services they offer...The
middle-class and poor....So who really is paying Clinton's new taxes ?
As the saying goes. "When the "rich" get a sniffle, the middle-class
catches pneumonia."
The real problem with this attack on the rich is the underlying
assumption that this is a static class of people. Not so.
A great many people start off "poor" and as they move up in the
business world become successful and eventually become what the
Democrats would currently characterize as "rich." Indeed most of the
wealth in this country is in the hands of senior citizens. Many of
these people at one time had no money at all.
So, the attack on the rich is not an attack on some evil group. Its
mostly an attack on people who after much sacrifice and hard work have
finally reached their peak earning years and are trying to enjoy and
pass on the fruits of their labor.
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There were many other Clinton proposals that didn't fly (thank you)
which would have further parted people from their capital....Here's a
couple of winners he proposed in 1992....
Imputed rent...You would pay tax on "rent" that you would have
collected FROM YOURSELF...Tax real, only...NO RENTAL INCOME !!!!!
Lower the inheritance threshold...From about $650,000 to around
$200,000. What has been an exclusive tax of the rich, Clinton wanted
to give as a gift to the middle-class...
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Newsweek reports that Clinton and the Democrats will no longer pursue
the rich vs. middle class America class warfare strategy. They realize
that it won't help them politically and, according to Newsweek,
"President Clinton...doesn't really believe in it."
Newsweek noted that they are abandoning it, so apparently, they do not
agree, nor do their sources. Clinton has been bashing the rich since
his campaign, claiming disingenuously that they are not paying their
"fair share" of taxes, i.e. falsely implying that they are paying less
than they did in '80. Hillary went after the "greedy" pharmaceutical
companies, after selling their stock short. They have made many
self-serving moralistic statements about the "greed" of the '80's.
Clinton and the Democrats condemn Republican. tax cut plans because
they claim it will "help the rich."
If this is not class warfare, what is?
Clinton has pursued this strategy for about 3 years, and now he claims
he **doesn't really believe in it?** Hey, I'll buy that!
Newsweek reported it as "news." How strangely non-judgmental that they
would not question the sincerity of Clinton's claim when his actions
speak otherwise.
Clinton's economic policies ???
1) A massive tax increase
2) "Hope" that interest rates would remain low
3) A few R & D credits for Al Gore's pet high tech industries
Was there anything else ?
In reference to the Social Security trust fund --
"But its important that we not panic; there is no immediate danger to
retirement. Our accumulated surpluses would be sufficient to pay the
liabilities to 2029 at current payroll tax rates."
From an interview; published in the May '95 issue of Money magazine.
Hasn't anyone told him that the Social Security trust fund has no
money -- Congress borrowed it all and left IOUs with no plans yet on
how to redeem those IOU's?
Given that Clinton seems so concerned about the hateful rhetoric in:
politics these days, I wonder if he intends to limits such violent:
statements as "taking food from the mouths of children", "war on the
poor", "throwing the elderly out on the streets", and "contract _on_
America, Evil, Extreme, Mean Spirited and on and on and on.
We've given more power to states and localities and to private
citizens. Our proposals would further accelerate those trends. Bill
Clinton, White House press conference, 3/3/95
Fact: Clinton lobbied to defeat the Balance Budget Amendment in the
Senate, so states and localities are prevented from getting the chance
to even debate the amendment. His Administration opposes giving block
grants to the states. He is opposing all Block Grants as well.
We support adding 100,000 new police officers. Bill Clinton, same news
conference.
Fact: There are no "100,000 police officers". Never has been, never
will be. Even liberal columnist DeWayne Wickam concluded in USA Today:
"Many of the 100,00 cops promised in the crime bill will never
materialize". On the day AFTER Clinton signed the bill into law, The
New York Times reported that "some law enforcement analyst said the
Administration has in effect misled local officials by vastly
overstating the number of police officers who can be hired under the
program".
It's called lying where I come from, how about where you came from?
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Everyone knows that I have tougher ethic rules than any other
President. Bill Clinton, news conference 3/3/95 defending the ethical
standards of his administration.
Fact: In addition to his own Whitewater troubles and many high-level
resignations, several members of his cabinet are currently facing
probes in their conduct, including four "Special Prosecutors..
The budget which came from the President said,, I've given up; that as
long I am President of the United States there will never be a
balanced budget. That is an astonishing statement. Paul Tsongas, at a
Capitol Hill press conference, 2/7/95.
Clinton said, "Who do these people think they are?" referring to
people who stockpile guns, "No other government in the world would
allow their citizens to do that."
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How about this!
Sara Brady was quoted in several papers and magazines at an Hand Gun
Incorporated rally a couple of weeks before the Senate vote saying..."
Our main agenda is to have ALL guns banned. We must use whatever means
possible. It doesn't matter if you have to distort facts or even lie.
"Our task of creating a Socialist America can only succeed when those
who would resist us have been totally disarmed." -- Sarah Brady
(President of Handgun Control, Inc. and wife of James Brady, whom the
Brady Bill was named for and was recently "honored" by Clinton)
Democratic Rep. David Obey said "I think most of us learned some time
ago that if you don't like the president's position on a particular
issue, you simply need to wait a few weeks."
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Foreign Policy?
Well, let's see, start with Somalia. It's not the first, but its one
of the best known. In the winter of 1992 George Bush ordered US troops
to guard food shipments in and around the ports. The deployment ended
in March, a resounding success. A couple of months later Clinton got
suckered into sending the Marines back in as 'nation builders'. In the
course of which he deliberately violated Executive Orders of the
Presidency not to engage in deliberate or willful assassination of
foreign political or military leaders; you DO remember the AC130
gunships firing wildly into civilian occupied apartment buildings, in
an effort to murder a Somali warlord and his followers, don't you? I
didn't think so. Long term memory is not a strong suite of the
Clintonestae.
Want a small disaster? At the opening of the Holocaust Memorial, 1993.
A luncheon was served afterwards for the distinguished Jewish guests
and foreign dignitaries. The main entree' was Honey baked Ham.
Bosnia. Bosnia is always good for a laugh. On the campaign trail,
Candidate Clinton said that he was qualified as Commander In Chief of
the Arkansas National Guard to make military decisions. As an example,
he bragged that if he were elected, he would bomb the Serbs. In May of
1993, he sent Warren Christopher to convince the Europeans to allow
him to do just that. Christopher went with the 'strongest message
possible' to urge England, France, and Germany that he was fully
committed to this course. Even as the Secretary of State was waiting
to meet with them in Geneva, Your Great White Hope appeared on the
tube and said that 'bombing the Serbs probably wouldn't be necessary'.
Warren Christopher is not noted for emotional displays: Some have
suggested that he has had the centers in his brain responsible for
emotion surgically removed. After Christopher heard what Fearless
Leader did, he ALMOST cracked a frown. The Europeans went ballistic.
This year Clinton pushed the bombing schtick again to make himself
look tougher than the average weenie and we all know what happened:
The Serbs have basically gone on to conquer Bosnia. In that sad
country you now have Serbian held territory and UN funded and run
Serbian concentration camps disguised as 'safe havens'. The only
reason these haven't been overrun is the Serbs haven't got the vaguest
idea what to do with the refugees huddled in them.
"OH!" you shriek hysterically, "PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS HAVE HAD
FAILURES, TOO! IT'S NOT FAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIRRRRR THAT BILL
CLINTON IS BEING JUDGED SO HARSHLY!!!!" Previous administrations had
more successes than failures. George Bush built an international
coalition to defeat Iraq in the Gulf War - even got the Arabs to talk
to the Israelis afterwards. Ronald Reagan stopped the advance of
Marxism in this hemisphere and cracked the will of the Soviets
hard-liners to continue the Cold War. Carter, whatever else he may
have failed at, can always look back at the Camp David Accords. Ford
wasn't President long enough to do more than handle domestic problems,
but Nixon reopened the dialogue with China. And so on back through
American history. Yes, they had failures, but never were so many
failures in so short a time the result of INCREDIBLE INCOMPETENCE by
an Administration.
Dan Rather responding to congratulations to him and Connie Chung
during and interview shortly after they teamed up together, "If we
could be one-hundredth as gret as you and Hillary Rodham Clinton have
been together in the White House," the supposedly objective newsman
said, "we'd take it right now and walk away winners."
"We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of
ordinary Americans"
- President Clinton (USA TODAY, 11 March 1993, page 2A)
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Vice President Al Gore's interview on ABC's "This Week with David
Brinkley," Sunday, August 25, 1996
Vice President Al Gore made a number of assertions during this
interview which we feel require additional clarification.
Medicare
"Beyond that, the Republican Party, specifically Speaker Gingrich,
said that he wanted to make changes that would cause Medicare to
wither on the vine." --Al Gore, ABC's "This Week with David Brinkley,"
8/25/96
Wrong! Al Gore quoted Speaker Gingrich out of context. What the
Speaker actually said was:
"Okay, what do you think the Health Care Financing Administration is?
It's a centralized command bureaucracy. It's everything we're telling
Boris Yeltzin to get rid of. Now we don't get rid of it in round one
because we don't think that's politically smart. We don't think that's
the right way to go through a transition. But we believe its going to
wither on the vine because we think people are voluntarily going to
leave it -- voluntarily." --Speaker Newt Gingrich, remarks to Blue
Cross/Blue Shield conference, 10/24/95
In their 1992 campaign, Clinton and Gore endorsed scrapping the Health
Care Financing Administration:
"We will scrap the Health Care Financing Administration and replace it
with a health standards board -- made up of consumers, providers,
business, labor and government -- that will establish annual health
budget targets and outline a core benefits package." --Bill Clinton
and Al Gore, Putting People First, 1992
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100,000 Cops
"The president has formed an alliance with the law enforcement
officers around this country and experts in fighting crime, passed
legislation, over the opposition of Senator Dole and Speaker Gingrich,
that is now putting 100,000 extra community police officers on the
streets." --Al Gore, ABC's "This Week with David Brinkley," 8/25/96
Wrong again!
"What I am advised is that there are 17,000 officers that can be
identified as being on the streets." --Attorney General Janet Reno,
media availability, 5/16/96
Worse, not all of these cops are fighting crime:
"At least $7.2 million in COPS grants has been used to hire 86
officers for state parks, marinas and other areas seemingly far
removed from violent crime." --Investor's Business Daily, 7/16/96
Reducing government
"We have downsized the federal government during the last four years
by 250,000 people." --Al Gore, ABC's "This Week with David Brinkley,"
8/25/96
What Gore didn't say was that Clinton accomplished this by gutting
Defense:
"President Clinton's plan three years ago to 'reinvent' government and
cut the federal work force by nearly 252,000 jobs never mentioned that
the military would absorb 75 percent of the cuts." --The Washington
Times, 8/23/96
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The national debt
"The debt, which was just ballooning out of control under the previous
two administrations, has now been cut by 60 percent." --Al Gore, ABC's
"This Week with David Brinkley," 8/25/96
Wrong! According to statistics released in February, 1996 by Clinton's
own Office of Management and Budget, the gross federal debt for fiscal
year 1992 was $4.002 trillion. By fiscal year 1995 it had "ballooned"
to $4.921 trillion -- an increase of 23 percent.
Bill Clinton during a visit in Italy, to his hosts: "Just think, we
are walking on the very ground where Romulus and Remus walked".
-- Bill Clinton (They are fictional characters)
"There is a feeling among reporters that the truth and Clinton don't
often go together. Reporters have a feeling he is a man without
conviction." -- Ken Auletta, a media columnist for the New Yorker
"Clinton's an unusually good liar. Unusually good. Do you realize
that?" Bob Kerrey [D-Neb.], Esquire, 1/96) Senator and Chairman of
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee
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SOMALIA, 1993:
Clinton pledged never to deploy American troops overseas unless U.S.
strategic interests were threatened and there was a clear military
goal with a firm exit strategy.
BOSNIA, 1995
Clinton said he would deploy troops to Bosnia for only 18 months, and
then they would come home.
BOSNIA, 1998
The Clinton administration confirmed plans to maintain thousands of
troops on an open-ended peacekeeping mission in Bosnia-Herzegovina
with no exit strategy."The policy is to remain there. It's
open-ended."
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GENNIFER FLOWERS, 1992
Clinton emphatically denied having affair with Gennifer Flowers
GENNIFER FLOWERS, 1998
Clinton admits in deposition to having sexual affair with Gennifer
Flowers
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100 DAY PLAN: June 23, 1992
Bill Clinton: "I intend to have a legislative program ready on the
desks of Congress on the day after I'm inaugurated. I intend to have
an explosive 100 day action period. Why do I think it will pass? Well,
first of all, I'm running on it."
100 DAY PLAN: Jan 14, 1993
Question from member of press: "We were originally led to believe you
would have an outline for congress even before the inauguration and
presented on day one or shortly thereafter - and now we're told it may
be a couple weeks down the road with a full plan ready in March. When
will it be ready?"
Reply by Bill Clinton: "Well, I don't know who led you to believe
that, but I'm the Only one who's authorized to talk about that ---"
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Black Church Burnings
Bill Clinton, June 8 1996: "I have vivid and painful memories of black
churches being burned in my own state when I was a child."
THE TRUTH: NOT A SINGLE BLACK CHURCH BURNED IN ARKANSAS WHEN HE WAS
GROWING UP.
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Iowa Caucuses
Bill Clinton, Feb 12, 1996: "Since I was a little boy, I've heard
about the Iowa caucuses. That's why I would really like to do well in
them."
THE TRUTH: THE IOWA CAUCUSES DIDN'T BEGIN UNTIL 1972 when Clinton was
at Oxford in England.
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Taxes
Bill Clinton, 1992: I will not raised taxes, I will impose tax cuts
for the American People
THE TRUTH: In 1993, Clinton's "tax cut" was the single largest tax
increase in American history.
Bill Clinton, 1992: "[We] Oppose federal excise gas tax increases.
Instead of a backbreaking federal gas tax, we should try conservation,
increased use of natural gas, and increased use of alternative fuels."
THE TRUTH: President Clinton raised the federal gasoline tax a total
of 6.8 cents per gallon in 1996
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China Policy
Bill Clinton, 1992: "The [Bush] administration continues to coddle
China, despite its continuing crackdown on democratic reform"
Bill Clinton, 1994: I have decided that the United States should renew
Most Favored Nation trading status toward China."I am moving,
therefore, to delink human rights from the annual extension of Most
Favored Nation trading status for China."
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Balanced Budget Admendment
Bill Clinton, 6/11/92: "I would support a balanced-budget amendment"
Bill Clinton, 2/28/95: "Obviously, I don't support it [a balanced
budget amendment].
The Dysfunctional President: Inside the Mind of Bill Clinton
Paul Fick, Ph.D.

Dr. Fick is a clinical psychologist who has studied the public
statements and actions of President Clinton and has come to some
startling conclusions. Specifically, that the President suffers from a
syndrome characteristic of certain Adult Children of Alcoholic
parents. This gives him a strong tendency to lie, to be by nature
indecisive, to create and thrive on chaos, to deny personal
responsibility and indulge in self-destructive behavior.
When Bill Clinton was four years old, his mother married Roger
Clinton, Sr. His stepfather was a violent alcoholic. He assaulted
Clinton's mother. When Bill was fourteen, his mother and stepfather
were divorced. One year later they remarried.
Fick claims Clinton responded to his stepfather's alcoholism and
violence by assuming the "Hero Role." He excelled in school and was
characterized as an "over-achiever" in all of his activities. This
behavior is designed to deny the reality of the family's
dysfunctionality. While the Hero is often honored and rewarded for his
behavior, the underlying guilt and resentment results in the creation
of chaos and in self-destructive behavior that undermines his success.
Clinton's continual staff changes, lies, excuses, indecisiveness, and
sexual obsession are among the obvious evidence of his dysfunctional
personality.
Clinton is driven to be what others want him to be. His continuous
observation of opinion polls during and after the campaign is
characteristic of this propensity. "The reporters and pundits who have
watched Bill Clinton for years marvel at Clinton's uncanny ability to
make himself over into whatever image appeals to voters." (Meredith
Oakley, On the Make - The Rise of Bill Clinton, as quoted in The
Dysfunctional President, page 16.) With respect to the United States'
involvement in the Gulf War, candidate Clinton said, "I guess I would
have voted with the majority if it was a close vote. But I agree with
the arguments the minority made." (page 22). "There is no Bill
Clinton. That is, he has no principles that he will stick to when the
going gets rough. His great passion is to be popular." (Columnist Nat
Hentoff, page 52)
Clinton's indecisiveness results in potential disastrous foreign
policy positions. "When military planners put together the aborted
plan for invading Haiti, among the major factors taken into account:
Bill Clinton's indecisiveness. The mission was constructed so that if
- as happened - Clinton canceled or postponed the invasion, all the
units could be recalled right up to the H-hour." (page 26)
Clinton's lies are perhaps the most observable symptom of his
dysfunctional personality. "The belief that all presidents fudge the
truth will not work with this president. Clinton lies to the public
not only for political expediency but also because lying is what he
knows. He cannot help but lie. For Bill Clinton, denial and lying are
the result of learned behavior in childhood." (page 31)
Clinton is comfortable in the chaotic world he grew up in. He seeks to
create chaos around him. The fact that this impulse can have negative
effects on national policy is clear in his attempts to make sweeping
changes in systems such as health care. The costs to the country of
the president's disorder are staggering.
I would have been disappointed with the book had it merely portrayed
Clinton as a victim of his stepfather's alcoholism. But it does not.
Fick clearly states that the each of us is responsible for our own
behavior, regardless of our background. When told by a patient, "My
behavior is because of my alcoholic father," Fick responds, "That's
good that we've identified the source of your problems. Now, what have
you done about it?"
I've never understood why anybody could have voted for a lying
philanderer for leader of the free world. This book helped me have
compassion for Bill Clinton, though it fueled my concern for America
as a people. It underscores the failure of our educational system to
create people who can think (and thus vote) critically (as evidenced
further by the outcome of the Menendez and Simpson trials). If we
can't educate our children to make intelligent decisions in a complex
world, we're buying into a dismal future.

http://www.craigr.com/books/dysfunct.htm
Now I am sure that your immediate response will be something like,
Bill Clinton isn't president any longer, or some nonsense like that.
Or you may snip it saying it is garbage.
What I want to do, and I have done it successfully, is show you that
your own party had one of the most corrupt presidents of our history.
Cheers
.
User: "Slate"

Title: Re: O.k Liberals, you finally got me 29 Nov 2003 11:00:13 AM
On 28 Nov 2003 22:59:21 -0800,
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:57:58 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


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Well, I guess for once I can actually say liberals got one on me.

President Bush lied

He said he was going to be on his ranch this Thanksgiving.


IMPEACH THE *****!!!!!!!
:))



ROFL

What Bush done yesterday stunned people all over. Do you know what had

to

be involved for him to do what he done?


Put on a flight suit and have an aircraft carrier circle around off of
San Diego?

The troops went NUTS.


Which you know because you were there. Or because a carefully
selected group of friendly reporters were allowed to provide the
propa.., er, "news".



Jealousy gets you nowhere



Osprey Quote:
"Well, I guess for once I can actually say liberals got one on me.
President Bush lied." <end>

Gee, just once? There are pages of them.


Bush LIES....

What he says to American and British veterans at a White House
ceremony:

"Having been here and seeing the care that these troops get is
comforting for me and Laura. We are -- should and must provide the
best care for anybody who is willing to put their life in harm's way."
Bush, 1/17/03

What he does for veterans:

Bush's visit came on the same day that the Administration announced it
is immediately cutting off access to its health care system to
approximately 164,000 veterans. [W. Post, 1/17/03].


Except those cuts didn't happen.



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What he says on border security:


"We're working hard to make sure your job is easier, that the port is
safer. The Customs Service is working with overseas ports and shippers
to improve its knowledge of container shipments, assessing risk so
that we have a better feel of who we ought to look at, what we ought
to worry about." Bush, 6/24/02]

What he does:

The President?s 2003 and 2004 budget provides zero for port security
grants. The GOP Congress has provided only $250 million for port
security grants (35% less than authorized). Additionally, in August,
the President vetoed all $39 million for the Container Security
Initiative which he specifically touted. <end>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What he says on fiscal responsibility:

"One of the ways we've got to make sure that we keep our economy
strong is to be wise about how we spend our money. If you overspend,
it creates a fundamental weakness in the foundation of economic
growth. And so I'm working with Congress to make sure they hear the
message -- the message of fiscal responsibility." Bush, 9/16/02


What he does:

Less than 6 months after this pronouncement, Bush proposed a budget
that would put the government more than $300 billion into deficit. As
National Journal noted on 2/12/02, Bush?s own 2004 budget tables show
that WITHOUT Bush?s tax and budgetary proposals, the deficit would
decline after 2006, but WITH Bush?s proposals, the deficit would grow
indefinitely.


It wouldn't matter if Bush was president, or any other republican.
Liberals are going to cry about deficit. Ignoring that many Democrat
presidents also increased our deficit prior to Reagan.

Prior to Regan? Let's look at Clinton compared to Bush.
Clinton: 1993 - 2001 surplus = +234.4 billion dollars.
Bush: 2001 -2003 deficit = --304.0 billion dollars
and increasing. [Source: Congressional budget office]
Bush has surpassed the largest deficit in the history of America,
and he's not done yet.

Fact is: Most Americans could care less about the deficit.

People aren't as dumb as you think they are. You probably won't
bother doing it, but just take a look at the national debt clock to
see how fast our money is being spent by this administration.
Go ahead.... take a look. WARNING: seat belt recommended.
http://www.worldnewsstand.net/history/your_debt.htm

Right now the economy is stronger, recovering, stock market is doing
much better, jobless rates at a 3 year low, GDP at a 30 year high.
I am not going to say Bush is perfect. And I can't explain all his
actions. I plan on voting for him again, as I am sure most Americans
will.

If the 2004 election is anything like the last, then most people WON'T
vote for him. Remember, he lost the popular vote by ¼ million or so
the last time. Bush was the only president elected by the USSC.

Unless someone better comes along. If you don't like Bush,
fine. I really don't care. But don't pretend to be fair minded, when
you are not. You, like most liberals, would vote for the party, not
the person.

It's entertaining when you make statements not based in fact.
I guess that's why I usually find you so entertaining. I don't like
Bush for many reasons, and IMO he will go down in history as a
bad president.
You still call me a liberal, yet I've told you before I'm a moderate.
You still assume I'm a democrat, yet I've told you before that I'm
an independent. You claim that I'd vote for the "party", yet in
the 35 years that I've voted, I've NEVER pulled the 'big' lever for
ANY party. When I vote, I vote for politicians, judges, etc. I don't
go into a voting booth and just pull the 'R' or 'D' lever.

Since you are so willing to come forth and want to bash Bush, you need
to look no further than one of the liberal icon's Bill Clinton. Shall
we compare?

I didn't post here to "bash Bush" Robert. I simply responded to YOUR
opening statement in which you said:
Quote:
" Well, I guess for once I can actually say liberals got one on me.
President Bush lied."
When you say things like "for once".... well, that's a joke.
Bush lies. They all lie. It seems to be a prerequisite for the job.
I don't care about what they say, I care about the state of the
country when they've finished their terms in office. After the smoke
clears, is the country better or worse than it was before they got
there.

Yes, I think we shall.

Don't snip and run now.

No I won't "snip and run now", as I never use your tactics.
Slate
"Lead me not into temptation. I can find it myself."

BILL CLINTON'S KNOWN LIES



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July 1991: Question: "Have you ever used Marijuana or any illegal
drugs?" Answer: "I've never broken any drug law." - Arkansas Gazette,
July 24th, 1991, p. 8B
Asked this 3 times, on 3 separate occasions, by 3 different
interviewers, your Great White Hope repeated this claim. Until faced
with irrefutable proof, that is.

Then he said:

March 29th, 1992: "I've never broken a state law. But when I was in
England I experimented with marijuana a time or two..."

Later, in that same interview, "No one has ever asked me that question
point-blank."

- The New York Times, March 30th, 1992, p.A15.
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On Jan. 19, 1992 Bill Clinton said, "I want to make it very clear that
this middle-class tax cut, in my view, is central to any attempt we're
going to make to have a short-term economic strategy."

But on Jan. 14, 1993 at a press conference, Bill Clinton said, "From
New Hampshire forward, for reasons that absolutely mystified me, the
press thought the most important issue in the race was the
middle-class tax cut. "I never did meet any voter who thought that."


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On Sept. 8,1992, Bill Clinton said, "The only people who will pay more
income taxes are the wealthiest 2 percent, those living in households
making over $200,000 a year."

In response to a Bush-Quayle ad that people with incomes of as little
as $36,000 would pay more taxes under the Clinton plan, Bill Clinton
said on Oct. 1, 1992, "It's a disgrace to the American people that the
president (Bush) of the United States would make a claim that is so
baseless, that is so without foundation, so shameless in its attempt
to get votes under false pretenses."

Yet the NY TIMES in the analysis of Clinton's budget wrote, "There are
tax increases for every family making more than $20,000 a year!"

"While Clinton continued to defend his middle-class tax cut publicly,
he privately expressed the view to his advisers that it was
intellectually dishonest." (The Agenda, by Bob Woodward, p. 31)


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In Business Week, July 6, 1992, Bill Clinton was quoted as saying,
"When I began the campaign, the projected deficit was $250 billion.
Now its up to $400 billion."

However in Time Magazine. 2 weeks later, Bill Clinton was quoted as
saying, "When I started in New Hampshire working with those numbers,
we felt the deficit was going to be around $250 billion a year, not
$400 billion." Which is it, Bill?

But then he said on Feb. 10, 1993, "The deficit of this country is
about $50 billion a year bigger than I was told it was going to be
before the election." --our President said this after "discovering"
that the deficit was $290 billion, $110 Billion LESS than he had
claimed in July! Which story are we to believe from our president??


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President Clinton said on March 23, 1993 at a press conference: "M
economic package will cut $500 billion from the deficit in five
years." Yet the projected deficit in 1998 with Clinton's budget is
$234 billion, the projected deficit in 2001 with Clinton budget is
$401 billion.(These figures come from Bill Clinton's budget document,
"A Vision of Change for America."-Feb. 1993.


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The Wall Street Journal Opinion-Editorial Page 2/21/95
NUMBERS GAME

It's the season to cut government, or at least to claim to, so we
perked up when we heard President Clinton declare in his State of the
Union address that he had cut (quote) more than 100,000 positions from
the federal bureaucracy in the last two years alone (unquote).

As they say in detective work, interesting - if true. So we decided to
pull out the new federal budget to check. What we discovered is that
Mr. Clinton isn't lying, but he isn't telling the whole truth either.
His speeches need an asterisk.

From 1993 to Fiscal Year 1996, the Clinton Administration will in fact
have cut the federal government by 157,000 full-time positions. But
there's a catch: 131,000 of those positions are civilian Defense jobs.
Those cuts reflect the inevitable post-cold War decline in military
spending, not some brave retrenchment in the overall size of
government.

There's another catch: Of the 26,000 positions to be cut from the
non-Defense side of Leviathan, 9,500 come from the Resolution Trust
Corp. and Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. Those two banking agencies
grew like Topsy to manage the savings and loan debacle, but are now
cutting back as the bailout ends. The RTC is even supposed to go out
of business this year. The bottom line is that over the course of the
Clinton presidency, the non-Defense, non-S&L part of the government
will cut a measly 16,500 full-time positions out of some 1.2 million.
In essence the domestic government is conducting business as usual.

Mr. Clinton also says he's making the federal establishment (quote)
the smallest it has been since John Kennedy was President (unquote).
But again, excluding Defense, total executive branch employment will
be 1,181,000 in 1996. Back in 1963, when JFK was President, total
non-Defense employment was a mere 861,000. Maybe that should be the
1996 goal for Republican budget- cutters; they could say they got the
idea from the President.

Are you referring to the guy who absolutely, positively guaranteed
that if he was elected governor of Arkansas in 1990 he would serve 4
years? The one who said that a 4% income tax rate on the wealthiest 2%
of the population would raise 165 billion dollars, reduce the deficit,
and allow a middle class tax cut? The one who claimed that the
republicans had killed the Lani Guinier nomination? The one who
claimed that he had decided to make himself available to the draft
after 4 acquaintances were killed in Viet Nam (rather than after his
birthday had been drawn #311 in the draft lottery)? The one who
claimed that "affirmative action "benefits white men?

Are you referring to that Clinton?

No, he said that the new gasoline tax (4 cent per gallon) would go to
a deficit reduction trust fund. No such fund has been established to
date... it is going to the general fund to fund their increased social
programs... check it out... call the government accounting office and
ask... they are stealing your money...

And I give you my word to do it without the blame game of the last
twelve years of Reagan and Bush.

Good, OOPS, that lasted almost a whole day!


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The NY Times reported that people earning under $100,000 paid an
additional $3 billion in '94.

But wait, Clinton and the media claimed that only the top 2% were
going to pay more taxes. Was that another lie from the Clinton
administration?


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According to liberal Democrats, anyone who makes a dollar more than
you is the "rich". On the issue of "taxes on the rich", consider the
following:

Most of the "rich" are smart business men & women... they own and run
their own businesses. In addition, Clinton passed a 1% increase in
corporate income taxes...

If you owned your own business, or if you were the CFO of a
corporation, and your cost of doing business went up, what would you
do ? You'd pass this cost on...

Should they feel the heat, so to speak, they pass the new costs on to
the principle consumers of the goods and services they offer...The
middle-class and poor....So who really is paying Clinton's new taxes ?

As the saying goes. "When the "rich" get a sniffle, the middle-class
catches pneumonia."

The real problem with this attack on the rich is the underlying
assumption that this is a static class of people. Not so.

A great many people start off "poor" and as they move up in the
business world become successful and eventually become what the
Democrats would currently characterize as "rich." Indeed most of the
wealth in this country is in the hands of senior citizens. Many of
these people at one time had no money at all.

So, the attack on the rich is not an attack on some evil group. Its
mostly an attack on people who after much sacrifice and hard work have
finally reached their peak earning years and are trying to enjoy and
pass on the fruits of their labor.


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There were many other Clinton proposals that didn't fly (thank you)
which would have further parted people from their capital....Here's a
couple of winners he proposed in 1992....

Imputed rent...You would pay tax on "rent" that you would have
collected FROM YOURSELF...Tax real, only...NO RENTAL INCOME !!!!!

Lower the inheritance threshold...From about $650,000 to around
$200,000. What has been an exclusive tax of the rich, Clinton wanted
to give as a gift to the middle-class...


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Newsweek reports that Clinton and the Democrats will no longer pursue
the rich vs. middle class America class warfare strategy. They realize
that it won't help them politically and, according to Newsweek,
"President Clinton...doesn't really believe in it."

Newsweek noted that they are abandoning it, so apparently, they do not
agree, nor do their sources. Clinton has been bashing the rich since
his campaign, claiming disingenuously that they are not paying their
"fair share" of taxes, i.e. falsely implying that they are paying less
than they did in '80. Hillary went after the "greedy" pharmaceutical
companies, after selling their stock short. They have made many
self-serving moralistic statements about the "greed" of the '80's.
Clinton and the Democrats condemn Republican. tax cut plans because
they claim it will "help the rich."

If this is not class warfare, what is?

Clinton has pursued this strategy for about 3 years, and now he claims
he **doesn't really believe in it?** Hey, I'll buy that!

Newsweek reported it as "news." How strangely non-judgmental that they
would not question the sincerity of Clinton's claim when his actions
speak otherwise.

Clinton's economic policies ???

1) A massive tax increase

2) "Hope" that interest rates would remain low

3) A few R & D credits for Al Gore's pet high tech industries

Was there anything else ?

In reference to the Social Security trust fund --

"But its important that we not panic; there is no immediate danger to
retirement. Our accumulated surpluses would be sufficient to pay the
liabilities to 2029 at current payroll tax rates."

From an interview; published in the May '95 issue of Money magazine.

Hasn't anyone told him that the Social Security trust fund has no
money -- Congress borrowed it all and left IOUs with no plans yet on
how to redeem those IOU's?

Given that Clinton seems so concerned about the hateful rhetoric in:
politics these days, I wonder if he intends to limits such violent:
statements as "taking food from the mouths of children", "war on the
poor", "throwing the elderly out on the streets", and "contract _on_
America, Evil, Extreme, Mean Spirited and on and on and on.

We've given more power to states and localities and to private
citizens. Our proposals would further accelerate those trends. Bill
Clinton, White House press conference, 3/3/95

Fact: Clinton lobbied to defeat the Balance Budget Amendment in the
Senate, so states and localities are prevented from getting the chance
to even debate the amendment. His Administration opposes giving block
rants to the states. He is opposing all Block Grants as well.

We support adding 100,000 new police officers. Bill Clinton, same news
conference.

Fact: There are no "100,000 police officers". Never has been, never
will be. Even liberal columnist DeWayne Wickam concluded in USA Today:
"Many of the 100,00 cops promised in the crime bill will never
materialize". On the day AFTER Clinton signed the bill into law, The
New York Times reported that "some law enforcement analyst said the
Administration has in effect misled local officials by vastly
overstating the number of police officers who can be hired under the
program".

It's called lying where I come from, how about where you came from?


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Everyone knows that I have tougher ethic rules than any other
President. Bill Clinton, news conference 3/3/95 defending the ethical
standards of his administration.

Fact: In addition to his own Whitewater troubles and many high-level
resignations, several members of his cabinet are currently facing
probes in their conduct, including four "Special Prosecutors..

The budget which came from the President said,, I've given up; that as
long I am President of the United States there will never be a
balanced budget. That is an astonishing statement. Paul Tsongas, at a
Capitol Hill press conference, 2/7/95.

Clinton said, "Who do these people think they are?" referring to
people who stockpile guns, "No other government in the world would
allow their citizens to do that."


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How about this!

Sara Brady was quoted in several papers and magazines at an Hand Gun
Incorporated rally a couple of weeks before the Senate vote saying..."
Our main agenda is to have ALL guns banned. We must use whatever means
possible. It doesn't matter if you have to distort facts or even lie.

"Our task of creating a Socialist America can only succeed when those
who would resist us have been totally disarmed." -- Sarah Brady
(President of Handgun Control, Inc. and wife of James Brady, whom the
Brady Bill was named for and was recently "honored" by Clinton)

Democratic Rep. David Obey said "I think most of us learned some time
ago that if you don't like the president's position on a particular
issue, you simply need to wait a few weeks."


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Foreign Policy?

Well, let's see, start with Somalia. It's not the first, but its one
of the best known. In the winter of 1992 George Bush ordered US troops
to guard food shipments in and around the ports. The deployment ended
in March, a resounding success. A couple of months later Clinton got
suckered into sending the Marines back in as 'nation builders'. In the
course of which he deliberately violated Executive Orders of the
Presidency not to engage in deliberate or willful assassination of
foreign political or military leaders; you DO remember the AC130
gunships firing wildly into civilian occupied apartment buildings, in
an effort to murder a Somali warlord and his followers, don't you? I
didn't think so. Long term memory is not a strong suite of the
Clintonestae.

Want a small disaster? At the opening of the Holocaust Memorial, 1993.
A luncheon was served afterwards for the distinguished Jewish guests
and foreign dignitaries. The main entree' was Honey baked Ham.

Bosnia. Bosnia is always good for a laugh. On the campaign trail,
Candidate Clinton said that he was qualified as Commander In Chief of
the Arkansas National Guard to make military decisions. As an example,
he bragged that if he were elected, he would bomb the Serbs. In May of
1993, he sent Warren Christopher to convince the Europeans to allow
him to do just that. Christopher went with the 'strongest message
possible' to urge England, France, and Germany that he was fully
committed to this course. Even as the Secretary of State was waiting
to meet with them in Geneva, Your Great White Hope appeared on the
tube and said that 'bombing the Serbs probably wouldn't be necessary'.
Warren Christopher is not noted for emotional displays: Some have
suggested that he has had the centers in his brain responsible for
emotion surgically removed. After Christopher heard what Fearless
Leader did, he ALMOST cracked a frown. The Europeans went ballistic.
This year Clinton pushed the bombing schtick again to make himself
look tougher than the average weenie and we all know what happened:
The Serbs have basically gone on to conquer Bosnia. In that sad
country you now have Serbian held territory and UN funded and run
Serbian concentration camps disguised as 'safe havens'. The only
reason these haven't been overrun is the Serbs haven't got the vaguest
idea what to do with the refugees huddled in them.

"OH!" you shriek hysterically, "PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS HAVE HAD
FAILURES, TOO! IT'S NOT FAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIRRRRR THAT BILL

CLINTON IS BEING JUDGED SO HARSHLY!!!!" Previous administrations had
more successes than failures. George Bush built an international
coalition to defeat Iraq in the Gulf War - even got the Arabs to talk
to the Israelis afterwards. Ronald Reagan stopped the advance of
Marxism in this hemisphere and cracked the will of the Soviets
hard-liners to continue the Cold War. Carter, whatever else he may
have failed at, can always look back at the Camp David Accords. Ford
wasn't President long enough to do more than handle domestic problems,
but Nixon reopened the dialogue with China. And so on back through
American history. Yes, they had failures, but never were so many
failures in so short a time the result of INCREDIBLE INCOMPETENCE by
an Administration.

Dan Rather responding to congratulations to him and Connie Chung
during and interview shortly after they teamed up together, "If we
could be one-hundredth as gret as you and Hillary Rodham Clinton have
been together in the White House," the supposedly objective newsman
said, "we'd take it right now and walk away winners."

"We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of
ordinary Americans"

- President Clinton (USA TODAY, 11 March 1993, page 2A)


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Vice President Al Gore's interview on ABC's "This Week with David
Brinkley," Sunday, August 25, 1996

Vice President Al Gore made a number of assertions during this
interview which we feel require additional clarification.

Medicare

"Beyond that, the Republican Party, specifically Speaker Gingrich,
said that he wanted to make changes that would cause Medicare to
wither on the vine." --Al Gore, ABC's "This Week with David Brinkley,"
8/25/96

Wrong! Al Gore quoted Speaker Gingrich out of context. What the
Speaker actually said was:

"Okay, what do you think the Health Care Financing Administration is?
It's a centralized command bureaucracy. It's everything we're telling
Boris Yeltzin to get rid of. Now we don't get rid of it in round one
because we don't think that's politically smart. We don't think that's
the right way to go through a transition. But we believe its going to
wither on the vine because we think people are voluntarily going to
leave it -- voluntarily." --Speaker Newt Gingrich, remarks to Blue
Cross/Blue Shield conference, 10/24/95

In their 1992 campaign, Clinton and Gore endorsed scrapping the Health
Care Financing Administration:

"We will scrap the Health Care Financing Administration and replace it
with a health standards board -- made up of consumers, providers,
business, labor and government -- that will establish annual health
budget targets and outline a core benefits package." --Bill Clinton
and Al Gore, Putting People First, 1992


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100,000 Cops

"The president has formed an alliance with the law enforcement
officers around this country and experts in fighting crime, passed
legislation, over the opposition of Senator Dole and Speaker Gingrich,
that is now putting 100,000 extra community police officers on the
streets." --Al Gore, ABC's "This Week with David Brinkley," 8/25/96

Wrong again!

"What I am advised is that there are 17,000 officers that can be
identified as being on the streets." --Attorney General Janet Reno,
media availability, 5/16/96

Worse, not all of these cops are fighting crime:

"At least $7.2 million in COPS grants has been used to hire 86
officers for state parks, marinas and other areas seemingly far
removed from violent crime." --Investor's Business Daily, 7/16/96

Reducing government

"We have downsized the federal government during the last four years
by 250,000 people." --Al Gore, ABC's "This Week with David Brinkley,"
8/25/96

What Gore didn't say was that Clinton accomplished this by gutting
Defense:

"President Clinton's plan three years ago to 'reinvent' government and
cut the federal work force by nearly 252,000 jobs never mentioned that
the military would absorb 75 percent of the cuts." --The Washington
Times, 8/23/96


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The national debt

"The debt, which was just ballooning out of control under the previous
two administrations, has now been cut by 60 percent." --Al Gore, ABC's
"This Week with David Brinkley," 8/25/96

Wrong! According to statistics released in February, 1996 by Clinton's
own Office of Management and Budget, the gross federal debt for fiscal
year 1992 was $4.002 trillion. By fiscal year 1995 it had "ballooned"
to $4.921 trillion -- an increase of 23 percent.

Bill Clinton during a visit in Italy, to his hosts: "Just think, we
are walking on the very ground where Romulus and Remus walked".

-- Bill Clinton (They are fictional characters)

"There is a feeling among reporters that the truth and Clinton don't
often go together. Reporters have a feeling he is a man without
conviction." -- Ken Auletta, a media columnist for the New Yorker



"Clinton's an unusually good liar. Unusually good. Do you realize
that?" Bob Kerrey [D-Neb.], Esquire, 1/96) Senator and Chairman of
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee


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SOMALIA, 1993:

Clinton pledged never to deploy American troops overseas unless U.S.
strategic interests were threatened and there was a clear military
goal with a firm exit strategy.

BOSNIA, 1995

Clinton said he would deploy troops to Bosnia for only 18 months, and
then they would come home.

BOSNIA, 1998

The Clinton administration confirmed plans to maintain thousands of
troops on an open-ended peacekeeping mission in Bosnia-Herzegovina
with no exit strategy."The policy is to remain there. It's
open-ended."


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GENNIFER FLOWERS, 1992

Clinton emphatically denied having affair with Gennifer Flowers

GENNIFER FLOWERS, 1998

Clinton admits in deposition to having sexual affair with Gennifer
Flowers


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100 DAY PLAN: June 23, 1992

Bill Clinton: "I intend to have a legislative program ready on the
desks of Congress on the day after I'm inaugurated. I intend to have
an explosive 100 day action period. Why do I think it will pass? Well,
first of all, I'm running on it."

100 DAY PLAN: Jan 14, 1993

Question from member of press: "We were originally led to believe you
would have an outline for congress even before the inauguration and
presented on day one or shortly thereafter - and now we're told it may
be a couple weeks down the road with a full plan ready in March. When
will it be ready?"

Reply by Bill Clinton: "Well, I don't know who led you to believe
that, but I'm the Only one who's authorized to talk about that ---"


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Black Church Burnings

Bill Clinton, June 8 1996: "I have vivid and painful memories of black
churches being burned in my own state when I was a child."

THE TRUTH: NOT A SINGLE BLACK CHURCH BURNED IN ARKANSAS WHEN HE WAS
GROWING UP.


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Iowa Caucuses

Bill Clinton, Feb 12, 1996: "Since I was a little boy, I've heard
about the Iowa caucuses. That's why I would really like to do well in
them."

THE TRUTH: THE IOWA