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"Omphalos" |
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01 Aug 2003 12:11:55 AM |
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On visiting France |
Be very careful. A few people I know just got back and they said it was
awful. You are ignored in restaurants and people spit in your direction.
Trips to eastern Eruope when the wall was up were more relaxing.
If you have to go - tell them you are a Canadian. If they find out you
are an American then you are in big trouble. Don't wear anything that
looks American. Dressing in black clothes helps. Consider wearing a beret
too and smoke French cigarettes like Galousies. Consider watching a few
films by the French director Godard before going too. If they corner you
with a knife, you can discuss his films and it could save your life.
If they find out you are an American - tell them you like the
anti-American Dixie Chicks, tell them you hate Bush and you love Chirac.
They could have a knife.
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| User: "John of Aix" |
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01 Aug 2003 07:26:24 AM |
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"Omphalos" <omphalos@wp.pl> a écrit dans le message de news:
0b62afcdd64c6bb027d888cff991effe@free.teranews.com...
Be very careful. A few people I know just got back and they said it
was
awful. You are ignored in restaurants and people spit in your
direction.
Trips to eastern Eruope when the wall was up were more relaxing.
You are an absolute liar and I defy you to post any traceable record
of such statements.
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| User: "dkat" |
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01 Aug 2003 11:27:48 AM |
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"That is rather odd. I know many people who travel to France who are
American. They are welcomed with open arms and much sympathy (which we
greatly need).
Hard to believe that W managed to scander every bit of good will the world
gave us after 9/11 but the anger that is now out there is against W not the
American people (despite some of the idiots in this country who did not
nonsense with Freedom fries and the like.
DKaT
" <omphalos@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:0b62afcdd64c6bb027d888cff991effe@free.teranews.com...
Be very careful. A few people I know just got back and they said it was
awful. You are ignored in restaurants and people spit in your direction.
Trips to eastern Eruope when the wall was up were more relaxing.
If you have to go - tell them you are a Canadian. If they find out you
are an American then you are in big trouble. Don't wear anything that
looks American. Dressing in black clothes helps. Consider wearing a beret
too and smoke French cigarettes like Galousies. Consider watching a few
films by the French director Godard before going too. If they corner you
with a knife, you can discuss his films and it could save your life.
If they find out you are an American - tell them you like the
anti-American Dixie Chicks, tell them you hate Bush and you love Chirac.
They could have a knife.
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| User: "Omphalos" |
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01 Aug 2003 12:15:30 PM |
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On Fri 01 Aug 2003 12:27:48p, "dkat" <disisdkat@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:8ywWa.25041$Wd5.5260968@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net:
"That is rather odd. I know many people who travel to France who are
American. They are welcomed with open arms and much sympathy (which we
greatly need).
Hard to believe that W managed to scander every bit of good will the
world gave us after 9/11 but the anger that is now out there is against
W not the American people (despite some of the idiots in this country
who did not nonsense with Freedom fries and the like.
More like the rest of the world has forgotten 9-11, but the United States
has not.
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| User: "dkat" |
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01 Aug 2003 06:26:51 PM |
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Actually the U.S. republicans have done a better job of forgetting the nasty
blue state New York than the rest of the world. They "remember" 9/11 but
they don't have enough interest to even read enough about it to understand
that Iraq had nothing to do with the terrorist act. The congress could be
doing little things such as giving research grants to Universities in NY but
instead continue to send the money to their own states even when SUNY is
more or equally appropriate. We in NY are firing our police, closing fire
stations, etc. because this "War" on a country that was NO threat to our
country is bankrupting us. So much for the support of our Heroes of 9/11
and caring about the state that was attacked.
DKat
"Omphalos" <omphalos@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:8b36711ef5e96c5dd2e0f42eae4720fe@free.teranews.com...
On Fri 01 Aug 2003 12:27:48p, "dkat" <disisdkat@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:8ywWa.25041$Wd5.5260968@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net:
"That is rather odd. I know many people who travel to France who are
American. They are welcomed with open arms and much sympathy (which we
greatly need).
Hard to believe that W managed to scander every bit of good will the
world gave us after 9/11 but the anger that is now out there is against
W not the American people (despite some of the idiots in this country
who did not nonsense with Freedom fries and the like.
More like the rest of the world has forgotten 9-11, but the United States
has not.
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| User: "osprey" |
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02 Aug 2003 02:42:36 AM |
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"dkat" <disisdkat@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<%GCWa.27658$Wd5.6489914@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>...
Actually the U.S. republicans have done a better job of forgetting the nasty
blue state New York than the rest of the world. They "remember" 9/11 but
they don't have enough interest to even read enough about it to understand
that Iraq had nothing to do with the terrorist act. The congress could be
doing little things such as giving research grants to Universities in NY but
instead continue to send the money to their own states even when SUNY is
more or equally appropriate. We in NY are firing our police, closing fire
stations, etc. because this "War" on a country that was NO threat to our
country is bankrupting us. So much for the support of our Heroes of 9/11
and caring about the state that was attacked.
DKat
What you fail to realize
Well actually I don't think you fail to realize it, I think you know
it but your hatred for Bush and republicans is blinding you from
making reasonable post and fair statements.
This war goes beyond just 9/11. It is a war against terrorism, states
and countries that harbor, train, support, and/or hide terrorist.
I firmly believe that Iraq did sponsor terrorism. I firmly believe
that Al Queda operated in Iraq and Saddam knew it. I firmly believe
that Iraq financed terrorist.
And it isn't just republicans that felt this way. Bill Clinton, John
Kerry, Daschle, and other democrats felt the same way as well. In
1998, our own CIA stated that we are at war with terrorist. Bill
Clinton warned that if Saddam was not stopped eventually he would use
his weapons.
So if you think for one moment that our action in Iraq was based on
just 9/11 and 9/11 alone, you are sadly mistaken and foolish.
Bush stated after 9/11 that this war will last a long time because it
has been allowed for decades to build to this point. Due to failures
in the Reagan/Bush Sr./ and Bill Clinton administrations, Bush Jr. has
all the weight thrusted upon his shoulders. And no, Bush Jr. isn't
going to rid the world of Terrorism, but I can say this. It has
drastically been reduced and as long as we keep our guard up, during
this administration and future administrations and don't allow
ourselves to fall asleep as we did prior 9/11, future terrorist will
have a very difficult time pulling off another major attack.
Remember, in 1993, the first bombing of the WTC. If it had gone off
as planned, it would have been more devastating than 9/11. It was
planned to knock one tower into another, not only killing just those
inside, but those with in the area as well.
Would you have blamed Clinton if he took the same action Bush took?
Remember, just a few weeks ago Bill Clinton supported Bush's decision.
Joe Lieberman also supports our military action. He is just
criticising some of the actions Bush is taking, or lack of action.
Which he has the right to do so and he makes valid points as well.
You need to take of the "I hate republican" glasses and open your eyes
a little.
Even just a little would help you.
"Omphalos" <omphalos@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:8b36711ef5e96c5dd2e0f42eae4720fe@free.teranews.com...
On Fri 01 Aug 2003 12:27:48p, "dkat" <disisdkat@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:8ywWa.25041$Wd5.5260968@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net:
"That is rather odd. I know many people who travel to France who are
American. They are welcomed with open arms and much sympathy (which we
greatly need).
Hard to believe that W managed to scander every bit of good will the
world gave us after 9/11 but the anger that is now out there is against
W not the American people (despite some of the idiots in this country
who did not nonsense with Freedom fries and the like.
More like the rest of the world has forgotten 9-11, but the United States
has not.
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| User: "Pat Winstanley" |
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02 Aug 2003 08:55:41 PM |
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In article <8912d58d.0308012342.3edd75be@posting.google.com>,
noneedtoknow@mail.com says...
This war goes beyond just 9/11. It is a war against terrorism, states
and countries that harbor, train, support, and/or hide terrorist.
I firmly believe that Iraq did sponsor terrorism.
Just like the US did/does.
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| User: "koolie" |
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03 Aug 2003 08:15:02 AM |
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Pat Winstanley <wallopcods2003@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:<MPG.19967bf33ba58bbf98a676@News.CIS.DFN.DE>...
In article <8912d58d.0308012342.3edd75be@posting.google.com>,
noneedtoknow@mail.com says...
I still have a few question about this war against terrorism, can
anybody help me?
1-Why did the US strike iraq and not Pakistan???
Because if it's all about nuclear power and ties with terrorists,
well, pakistan appears as a much better target.
2-Why Iraq???
This country was certainly led by a cruel dictator but did he really
have the opportunity to acquire nuclear weapons as we all know that
the US (and many others) were spying on him very carefully???
Does it sounds realistic that he sells/shares/gives those weapons to
terror groups as Iraq was one of the least islamic government of the
region???
3-What's next???
First we were said it was a war against terror and now it's about the
cruelty of Hussein's Regim and Dictatorship, so what's next???
Was it a single war or a "Crusade"??
If a Crusade, what is its aim???
Eradication of Terror or Dictatorship???Or what??
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Si quelqu'un a besoin d'une traduction de l'un de mes écrits, il
'suffit de me le demander.
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| User: "Pat Winstanley" |
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02 Aug 2003 09:00:21 PM |
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In article <bghhsg$nvnum$21@ID-157326.news.uni-berlin.de>,
j.murphyNOSPAM@libertysurf.fr says...
I firmly believe that Iraq did sponsor terrorism. I firmly believe
that Al Queda operated in Iraq and Saddam knew it. I firmly believe
that Iraq financed terrorist.
Believe what you like but don't expect others to do likewise until
you come up with some proof. How long have you been holding POWs in
the Guantanamo concentration camp? Surely if even just one of them
was able to spill beans on some terrorist plot to bring down the USA,
especially if Iraq was in there somewhere, they would be in front of
the world's press within ten minutes with the Bush murderers dancing
behind in joy. The USA has lied constantly on almost everything to do
with terrorism, Afghanistan and Iraq and the wolrd is intelligent
enough to see that. It is a shame that only in the USA is there
denial.
Exactly... if the US really did have evidence that these people were
terrorists they would put them on open trial.
They don't have any such thing, so they daren't.
Meanwhile they desperately pretend that people fighting in a war are
"illegal combatants"... for exactly the justifications that can easily
be similarly applied to all the US troops in Iraq, Afghanistan etc!
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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02 Aug 2003 02:10:35 PM |
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osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"dkat" <disisdkat@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<%GCWa.27658$Wd5.6489914@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>...
Actually the U.S. republicans have done a better job of forgetting the nasty
blue state New York than the rest of the world. They "remember" 9/11 but
they don't have enough interest to even read enough about it to understand
that Iraq had nothing to do with the terrorist act. The congress could be
doing little things such as giving research grants to Universities in NY but
instead continue to send the money to their own states even when SUNY is
more or equally appropriate. We in NY are firing our police, closing fire
stations, etc. because this "War" on a country that was NO threat to our
country is bankrupting us. So much for the support of our Heroes of 9/11
and caring about the state that was attacked.
DKat
What you fail to realize
Well actually I don't think you fail to realize it, I think you know
it but your hatred for Bush and republicans is blinding you from
making reasonable post and fair statements.
Heishman, yoou're such a lying ***** that you haven';t the first
clue what a "fair statement" looks like. You're such a hate-filled
bigot that you excuse anything done by Republicans and try to blame it
on "liberals" and Democrats instead. I wouldn't be surprised to see
you trying to blame Nixon's crimes on Democrast for actually having
the nerve to investigate.
This war goes beyond just 9/11.
In fact it has nothing to do with 9/11.
It is a war against terrorism,
You really are a stupid little turd. You think that ANYTHING can be
justified by just calling it "a war on terrorism".
I firmly believe that Iraq did sponsor terrorism.
So obviously you're motivated by nothing more than irrational hatred
and bigotry. You have no reason whatever to believe Iraq had anything
to do with anything, but because you want to hate, you convince
yourself that your hatred is justified.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Osprey" |
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02 Aug 2003 02:20:42 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:bgh2bb$ved$1@bolt.sonic.net...
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"dkat" <disisdkat@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<%GCWa.27658$Wd5.6489914@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>...
Actually the U.S. republicans have done a better job of forgetting the
nasty
blue state New York than the rest of the world. They "remember" 9/11
but
they don't have enough interest to even read enough about it to
understand
that Iraq had nothing to do with the terrorist act. The congress could
be
doing little things such as giving research grants to Universities in
NY but
instead continue to send the money to their own states even when SUNY
is
more or equally appropriate. We in NY are firing our police, closing
fire
stations, etc. because this "War" on a country that was NO threat to
our
country is bankrupting us. So much for the support of our Heroes of
9/11
and caring about the state that was attacked.
DKat
What you fail to realize
Well actually I don't think you fail to realize it, I think you know
it but your hatred for Bush and republicans is blinding you from
making reasonable post and fair statements.
Heishman, yoou're such a lying ***** that you haven';t the first
clue what a "fair statement" looks like. You're such a hate-filled
bigot that you excuse anything done by Republicans and try to blame it
on "liberals" and Democrats instead. I wouldn't be surprised to see
you trying to blame Nixon's crimes on Democrast for actually having
the nerve to investigate.
This war goes beyond just 9/11.
In fact it has nothing to do with 9/11.
It is a war against terrorism,
You really are a stupid little turd. You think that ANYTHING can be
justified by just calling it "a war on terrorism".
I firmly believe that Iraq did sponsor terrorism.
So obviously you're motivated by nothing more than irrational hatred
and bigotry. You have no reason whatever to believe Iraq had anything
to do with anything, but because you want to hate, you convince
yourself that your hatred is justified.
"If Saddam Hussein fails to comply and we fail to act or we take some
ambiguous third route, which gives him yet more opportunities to develop his
program of weapons of mass destruction ... he will then conclude that he can
go right on doing more to build an arsenal of devastating destruction ...
Some way, someday, I guarantee you he'll use the arsenal." - Bill Clinton,
Feb. 18 1998
CNN Story dated Dec. 16, 1998
"The president said Iraq's refusal to cooperate with UN weapons inspectors
presented a threat to the entire world. 'Saddam must not be allowed to
threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or
biological weapons.'"
"The best way to end that threat once and for all is with a new Iraqi
government - a government ready to live in peace with its neighbors, a
government that respects the rights of its people."
Sen. John F. Kerry, D - Mass., said on Feb. 23, 1998: "Saddam Hussein has
already used these weapons and has made it clear that he has the intent to
continue to try, by virtue of his duplicity and secrecy, to continue to do
so. That is a threat to the stability of the Middle East. It is a threat
with respect to the potential of terrorist activities on a global basis. It
is a threat even to regions near but not exactly in the Middle East."
Tom Daschel, Feb. 1998: "Look, we have exhausted virtually all our
diplomatic effort to get the Iraqis to comply with their own agreements and
with international law. Given that, what other option is there but to force
them to do so?' That's what they're saying. This is the key question. And
the answer is we don't have another option. We have go to force them to
comply, and we are doing so militarily."
Weapons of mass destruction. Saddam Hussein refusing to comply with
inspectors. Regime change. A threat to the entire world. Use the military
to force them to comply. Sounds like the arguments that the Bush
administration used. In fact, in President Bush's January 28 State of the
Union speech, he specifically cited the information gathered by the U N, the
International Atomic Energy Agency and Bill Clinton as a basis for his
conclusion that Iraq did indeed have WMD.
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| User: "Bob SD" |
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01 Aug 2003 12:15:10 PM |
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Omphalos <omphalos@wp.pl> wrote in
news:8b36711ef5e96c5dd2e0f42eae4720fe@free.teranews.com:
On Fri 01 Aug 2003 12:27:48p, "dkat" <disisdkat@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:8ywWa.25041$Wd5.5260968@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net:
"That is rather odd. I know many people who travel to France who are
American. They are welcomed with open arms and much sympathy (which we
greatly need).
Hard to believe that W managed to scander every bit of good will the
world gave us after 9/11 but the anger that is now out there is against
W not the American people (despite some of the idiots in this country
who did not nonsense with Freedom fries and the like.
More like the rest of the world has forgotten 9-11, but the United
States
has not.
More like the rest of the world was right about Iraq's WMDs and the U.S. &
Britain were wrong (and lying about it to boot).
Btw, Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11. If you have evidence to the
contrary, show it.
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| User: "Omphalos" |
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02 Aug 2003 08:26:44 PM |
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On Sat 02 Aug 2003 07:25:55p, "John of Aix"
<j.murphyNOSPAM@libertysurf.fr> wrote in
news:bghhsh$nvnum$22@ID-157326.news.uni-berlin.de:
"Omphalos" <omphalos@wp.pl> a écrit dans le message de news:
8b36711ef5e96c5dd2e0f42eae4720fe@free.teranews.com...
More like the rest of the world has forgotten 9-11, but the United
States has not.
Not at all. it is exactly as dkat says, the USA had incredible
sympathy after the WTC attack. There were THREE minutes silence in
France, the two world wars together with their 30 or 40 million dead
get just ONE minute. Bush played on this sympathy to undertake his
dirty deeds probably because he assumed that the rest of the world had
the same intellectual level as himself and thought he could get away
with it. He was wrong and didn't. It's time you woke up to the fact
that the great majority of citizens in the industrialized countries
are far, far more intelligent than the average USAnian.
Riiiight. I guess that Americans' DNA must be different from everyone
elses to make them less intelligent. We all see now who is less
intelligent.
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| User: "John of Aix" |
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03 Aug 2003 07:36:21 AM |
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"Omphalos" <omphalos@wp.pl> a écrit dans le message de news:
c96c198a215022c263676902e3fc60c4@free.teranews.com...
Riiiight. I guess that Americans' DNA must be different from
everyone
elses to make them less intelligent. We all see now who is less
intelligent.
DNA has nothing whatever to do with it.
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| User: "Omphalos" |
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03 Aug 2003 05:10:39 AM |
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On Sat 02 Aug 2003 10:43:25p, (Ray Fischer) wrote
in news:bghssd$nf$1@bolt.sonic.net:
Omphalos <omphalos@wp.pl> wrote:
"John of Aix"
"Omphalos" <omphalos@wp.pl> a écrit dans le message de news:
More like the rest of the world has forgotten 9-11, but the United
States has not.
Not at all. it is exactly as dkat says, the USA had incredible
sympathy after the WTC attack. There were THREE minutes silence in
France, the two world wars together with their 30 or 40 million dead
get just ONE minute. Bush played on this sympathy to undertake his
dirty deeds probably because he assumed that the rest of the world had
the same intellectual level as himself and thought he could get away
with it. He was wrong and didn't. It's time you woke up to the fact
that the great majority of citizens in the industrialized countries
are far, far more intelligent than the average USAnian.
Riiiight. I guess that Americans' DNA must be different from everyone
elses to make them less intelligent.
Or it's that American's get more of their education from large
corporations.
They don't.
We all see now who is less
intelligent.
You.
Ooooo! Ooooo! Good one!
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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03 Aug 2003 12:28:22 PM |
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Omphalos <omphalos@wp.pl> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote
Omphalos <omphalos@wp.pl> wrote:
Riiiight. I guess that Americans' DNA must be different from everyone
elses to make them less intelligent.
Or it's that American's get more of their education from large
corporations.
They don't.
Fox "news". Disney(ABC). AOL/Time Warner.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Omphalos" |
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03 Aug 2003 06:39:53 PM |
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On Sun 03 Aug 2003 01:28:22p, (Ray Fischer) wrote
in news:bgjgnm$mco$1@bolt.sonic.net:
Omphalos <omphalos@wp.pl> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote
Omphalos <omphalos@wp.pl> wrote:
Riiiight. I guess that Americans' DNA must be different from everyone
elses to make them less intelligent.
Or it's that American's get more of their education from large
corporations.
They don't.
Fox "news". Disney(ABC). AOL/Time Warner.
Oh brother. Please come back to real life.
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01 Aug 2003 02:24:16 AM |
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It seems you mixed the country name.
I understand you were visiting Iraq, weren't you ?
It is a country you liberated, it is normal they hate you.
My country, France, is peaceful and visited by 70M-80M tourist each
year. Americans are welcome as long as they are not wearing I love Bush
signs.
Omphalos a écrit :
Be very careful. A few people I know just got back and they said it was
awful. You are ignored in restaurants and people spit in your direction.
Trips to eastern Eruope when the wall was up were more relaxing.
If you have to go - tell them you are a Canadian. If they find out you
are an American then you are in big trouble. Don't wear anything that
looks American. Dressing in black clothes helps. Consider wearing a beret
too and smoke French cigarettes like Galousies. Consider watching a few
films by the French director Godard before going too. If they corner you
with a knife, you can discuss his films and it could save your life.
If they find out you are an American - tell them you like the
anti-American Dixie Chicks, tell them you hate Bush and you love Chirac.
They could have a knife.
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| User: "Vlatko Pesaro" |
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01 Aug 2003 03:39:05 AM |
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DON'T visit France....Italy,it's more better
"Albert" <albert@pavupapri.com> wrote in message
news:1059722660.655190@teheran.magic.fr...
It seems you mixed the country name.
I understand you were visiting Iraq, weren't you ?
It is a country you liberated, it is normal they hate you.
My country, France, is peaceful and visited by 70M-80M tourist each
year. Americans are welcome as long as they are not wearing I love Bush
signs.
Omphalos a écrit :
Be very careful. A few people I know just got back and they said it was
awful. You are ignored in restaurants and people spit in your
direction.
Trips to eastern Eruope when the wall was up were more relaxing.
If you have to go - tell them you are a Canadian. If they find out you
are an American then you are in big trouble. Don't wear anything that
looks American. Dressing in black clothes helps. Consider wearing a
beret
too and smoke French cigarettes like Galousies. Consider watching a few
films by the French director Godard before going too. If they corner
you
with a knife, you can discuss his films and it could save your life.
If they find out you are an American - tell them you like the
anti-American Dixie Chicks, tell them you hate Bush and you love Chirac.
They could have a knife.
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| User: "Letyrny" |
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01 Aug 2003 11:10:53 AM |
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On Fri 01 Aug 2003 03:24:16a, Albert <albert@pavupapri.com> wrote in
news:1059722660.655190@teheran.magic.fr:
On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 05:11:55 GMT, Omphalos <omphalos@wp.pl> ranted:
Be very careful. A few people I know just got back and they said it
was awful. You are ignored in restaurants and people spit in your
direction. Trips to eastern Eruope when the wall was up were more
relaxing.
If you have to go - tell them you are a Canadian. If they find out you
are an American then you are in big trouble. Don't wear anything that
looks American. Dressing in black clothes helps. Consider wearing a
beret too and smoke French cigarettes like Galousies. Consider
watching a few films by the French director Godard before going too.
If they corner you with a knife, you can discuss his films and it could
save your life.
If they find out you are an American - tell them you like the
anti-American Dixie Chicks, tell them you hate Bush and you love
Chirac. They could have a knife.
I have had many friends take European tours and avoid Vichy France like
it was radioactive.
The French in Vichy France are just upset because the Nazis didn't give a
***** about them. They long to be under the jackboot. They yearn to be the
Nazi's bitches.
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| User: "Ken [NY" |
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01 Aug 2003 10:24:25 AM |
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On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 09:24:16 +0200, Albert <albert@pavupapri.com>
ranted:
It seems you mixed the country name.
I understand you were visiting Iraq, weren't you ?
It is a country you liberated, it is normal they hate you.
My country, France, is peaceful and visited by 70M-80M tourist each
year. Americans are welcome as long as they are not wearing I love Bush
signs.
Typical of what the French learned at the feet of their Nazi
conquerers - limit free speech.
Ken (NY)
Chairman,
Department Of Redundancy Department
____________________________________
email:
http://www.geocities.com/bluesguy68/email.htm
"Eventually, socialists run out of other people's money."
--Baroness Margaret Thatcher
Q: What the hardest thing about rollerblading?
A: Telling your parents you’re gay.
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| User: "John of Aix" |
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01 Aug 2003 05:06:36 PM |
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"Ken [NY)" <email@below.the_text> a écrit dans le message de news:
b81liv8pdhnrb9qaki7aqeib942kleij5l@4ax.com...
On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 09:24:16 +0200, Albert <albert@pavupapri.com>
ranted:
It seems you mixed the country name.
I understand you were visiting Iraq, weren't you ?
It is a country you liberated, it is normal they hate you.
My country, France, is peaceful and visited by 70M-80M tourist each
year. Americans are welcome as long as they are not wearing I love
Bush
signs.
Typical of what the French learned at the feet of their Nazi
conquerers - limit free speech.
Ken, criticise when it is founded but not just to see your name in
lights on Usenet. First you take the message to be serious and second
you seem to assume that a Frenchman wearing a "I hate Bush" hat in
Texas would go unscathed. Lighten up man.
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| User: "The Baron" |
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01 Aug 2003 12:21:30 PM |
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On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 15:24:25 GMT, "Ken [NY)" <email@below.the_text>
wrote:
On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 09:24:16 +0200, Albert <albert@pavupapri.com>
ranted:
It seems you mixed the country name.
I understand you were visiting Iraq, weren't you ?
It is a country you liberated, it is normal they hate you.
My country, France, is peaceful and visited by 70M-80M tourist each
year. Americans are welcome as long as they are not wearing I love Bush
signs.
Typical of what the French learned at the feet of their Nazi
conquerers - limit free speech.
There is a difference between speaking freely, and being a *****.
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| User: "Ken [NY" |
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| Title: Re: On visiting France |
01 Aug 2003 08:02:20 PM |
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On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 18:21:30 +0100, The Baron
<NOSPAMwebmaster@NOSPAMswineherd.co.uk> ranted:
On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 15:24:25 GMT, "Ken [NY)" <email@below.the_text>
wrote:
On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 09:24:16 +0200, Albert <albert@pavupapri.com>
ranted:
It seems you mixed the country name.
I understand you were visiting Iraq, weren't you ?
It is a country you liberated, it is normal they hate you.
My country, France, is peaceful and visited by 70M-80M tourist each
year. Americans are welcome as long as they are not wearing I love Bush
signs.
Typical of what the French learned at the feet of their Nazi
conquerers - limit free speech.
There is a difference between speaking freely, and being a *****.
In free societies, that is determined by the people, not the
government.
Ken (NY)
Chairman,
Department Of Redundancy Department
____________________________________
email:
http://www.geocities.com/bluesguy68/email.htm
"Eventually, socialists run out of other people's money."
--Baroness Margaret Thatcher
Q: What the hardest thing about rollerblading?
A: Telling your parents you’re gay.
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| User: "John of Aix" |
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| Title: Re: On visiting France |
02 Aug 2003 04:30:55 PM |
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"Ken [NY)" <email@below.the_text> a écrit dans le message de news:
j43mivgbq6bvrnrrsa4imnl122us4tg3o1@4ax.com...
There is a difference between speaking freely, and being a
*****.
In free societies, that is determined by the people, not the
government.
The right to free speeech stops where it impinges on the freedom of
others. There is no KKK in Europe, no Nazi Party, no John Birch
society, i wonder why?
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| User: "JJ" |
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02 Aug 2003 07:01:28 PM |
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"John of Aix" <j.murphyNOSPAM@libertysurf.fr> wrote in message
news:bghhs3$nvnum$8@ID-157326.news.uni-berlin.de...
, no Nazi Party,
I'm going to go out on a limb here and trust some actual Germans who've told
me otherwise on this one. (That is to say, at the same level it is in the
US.)
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| User: "John of Aix" |
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03 Aug 2003 07:59:52 AM |
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"JJ" <tyger1@flash.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
shYWa.31562$Mc.2486184@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
"John of Aix" <j.murphyNOSPAM@libertysurf.fr> wrote in message
news:bghhs3$nvnum$8@ID-157326.news.uni-berlin.de...
, no Nazi Party,
I'm going to go out on a limb here and trust some actual Germans
who've told
me otherwise on this one. (That is to say, at the same level it is
in the
US.)
There are parties that may resemble the NDSAP by their philosophy and
insignia but there is no Nazi party as such and as is the case in the
USA.
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| User: "Ken [NY" |
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| Title: Re: On visiting France |
04 Aug 2003 06:04:42 AM |
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On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 23:30:55 +0200, "John of Aix"
<j.murphyNOSPAM@libertysurf.fr> ranted:
"Ken [NY)" <email@below.the_text> a écrit dans le message de news:
j43mivgbq6bvrnrrsa4imnl122us4tg3o1@4ax.com...
There is a difference between speaking freely, and being a
*****.
In free societies, that is determined by the people, not the
government.
The right to free speeech stops where it impinges on the freedom of
others. There is no KKK in Europe, no Nazi Party, no John Birch
society, i wonder why?
No Nazi Party? Give me a break. What are they calling it these
days anyway? And the racism in Europe is legendary.
Ken (NY)
Chairman,
Department Of Redundancy Department
____________________________________
email:
http://www.geocities.com/bluesguy68/email.htm
"Eventually, socialists run out of other people's money."
--Baroness Margaret Thatcher
Q: What the hardest thing about rollerblading?
A: Telling your parents you’re gay.
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| User: "John of Aix" |
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| Title: Re: On visiting France |
06 Aug 2003 12:04:42 PM |
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"Ken [NY)" <email@below.the_text> a écrit dans le message de news:
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Why did France bother with having a revolution if not for
achieving liberty? Or is that a forgotten ideal?
Well what is Liberty? That is one of those endless questions isn't it
and in many ways the motor for much of our politics. I would think
that the French consider they have liberty but I wouldn't be surprised
if the average Cuban didn't say the same. As I say, everyone's
definition is different.
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| User: "John of Aix" |
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| Title: Re: On visiting France |
08 Aug 2003 03:29:07 PM |
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"Ken [NY)" <email@Below.Text> a écrit dans le message de news:
tu85jvku5f1tukvk3k3u75kbsv23dlbu1v@4ax.com...
The Cubans have been under the control of a dictatorship for so
long,
You think it is a dictatorship, I do not..
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| User: "JJ" |
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| Title: Re: On visiting France |
09 Aug 2003 12:52:10 AM |
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"John of Aix" <j.murphyNOSPAM@libertysurf.fr> wrote in message
news:bh13m1$snjk5$3@ID-157326.news.uni-berlin.de...
"Ken [NY)" <email@Below.Text> a écrit dans le message de news:
tu85jvku5f1tukvk3k3u75kbsv23dlbu1v@4ax.com...
The Cubans have been under the control of a dictatorship for so
long,
You think it is a dictatorship, I do not..
Yeah, you're right. It's not like shooting the opposition in the election
invalidates having an election.....
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