"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <yeahyeahyeah@yeah.com> wrote in message

Osprey

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It's got nothing to do with "cut-n-run",

It's more like terror and cowardice.

Says the man who shivers behind his keyboard.

LOL! You really are comical. Everybody sees you snip and run
and then try to delude yourself into thinking you're anything but
an stupid coward.

Shhh....I don't want you to shiver too much Fischer.

All of you liberals in here are cowards...and that's just the cold hard
facts.

When I snip someone's comments...it's meant to show I didn't care what they
had to say.

In article <8tadnQaG9JmcP0nYnZ2dnUVZ_tKjnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Going to war with Iran right now isn't really an option. It seems like a
lot of people can't remember even ten years ago. Sanctions have been
tried. They might work on a country like North Korea if you can keep
China on board due to the location of North Korea and the fact they've
got nothing they can sell except for missiles which might be monitored
more easily than crude oil, which Iran can sell to a number of states
surrounding it and out through the gulf.

I absolutely agree,keeping China on board is essential.

What worries me is China is building up their military and that test they
did with destroying their own satellite.

But we are spread so thing playing war in Iraq, we have no options to
deal with it. And you voted for the guy.

"Bill Bonde ( Not endorsed by Hootia and the Blowfish )"
<tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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osprey wrote:

On Feb 15, 1:44 am, "Bill Bonde ( Not endorsed by Hootia and the
Blowfish )" <tributyltinpa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Shawn Hirn wrote:

In article <bKGdnYU2WpfZT07YnZ2dnUVZ_qyjn...@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"Bill Bonde ( Not endorsed by Hootia and the Blowfish )"
<tributyltinpa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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"james g. keegan jr." wrote:

³I can say with certainty that the Quds Force, a part of the
Iranian
government, has provided these sophisticated I.E.D.¹s that have
harmed our troops.²
--Bush, today, at his press conference

"The danger to our country is grave and it is growing. The Iraqi
regime possesses biological and chemical weapons, is rebuilding
the
facilities to make more and, according to the British
government,
could launch a biological or chemical attack in as little as 45
minutes after the order is given. The regime has long-standing
and
continuing ties to terrorist groups, and there are al Qaeda
terrorists inside Iraq. This regime is seeking a nuclear bomb,
and
with fissile material could build one within a year."
--Bush radio address, September 28, 2002

once a liar, always a liar.

What does that make you? If Bush was wrong about 2002 and Iraq's
WMDs
doesn't make him wrong about 2007 and Iran's IEDs. Your claim
that it
does is, well, it's a lie.

I think, and I hope, that this time our government is patient and
takes the
time to get all the facts straight.

Wow! I can't believe I am agreeing with you.

If Iran is in fact supplying the insurgents, then I think strong
diplomatic
steps should be taken and Iran should have heavy sanctions put in
place.

If Iran is guilty of the charges Bush leveled, a tight trade embargo
against Iran needs to be put in place ASAP.

Liberals are so naive. Sanctions don't work. First of all, unless you
get the Russians and the Chinese and the Europeans on board, it's
basically the US making its trade deficit worse. Secondly, consider how
Iran has plenty of something called oil that it can use to get around
any sanctions even if everyone claims to be on board. Third, the US and
others have already caught Iran supplying arms to terrorists, granted
that was just to kill Jews and counting that as "real" terrorism seems
a
bit of a stretch for some around here on the left.-

One thing I'm not is a liberal. That's a bad word.

What do you suggest? I don't think we should try to go to war with
Iran, I think it would be a disaster.

Going to war with Iran right now isn't really an option. It seems like a
lot of people can't remember even ten years ago. Sanctions have been
tried. They might work on a country like North Korea if you can keep
China on board due to the location of North Korea and the fact they've
got nothing they can sell except for missiles which might be monitored
more easily than crude oil, which Iran can sell to a number of states
surrounding it and out through the gulf.

I absolutely agree,keeping China on board is essential.

What worries me is China is building up their military and that test they
did with destroying their own satellite.

And you are right, the "once a liar, always a liar" isn't true. If that was
the case, then it would be impossible for Keegan to ever
tell the truth.

"Bill Bonde ( Not endorsed by Hootia and the Blowfish )"
<tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:45D3C226.35779D70@yahoo.co.uk...

"james g. keegan jr." wrote:

³I can say with certainty that the Quds Force, a part of the Iranian
government, has provided these sophisticated I.E.D.¹s that have
harmed our troops.²
--Bush, today, at his press conference

"The danger to our country is grave and it is growing. The Iraqi
regime possesses biological and chemical weapons, is rebuilding the
facilities to make more and, according to the British government,
could launch a biological or chemical attack in as little as 45
minutes after the order is given. The regime has long-standing and
continuing ties to terrorist groups, and there are al Qaeda
terrorists inside Iraq. This regime is seeking a nuclear bomb, and
with fissile material could build one within a year."
--Bush radio address, September 28, 2002

once a liar, always a liar.

What does that make you? If Bush was wrong about 2002 and Iraq's WMDs
doesn't make him wrong about 2007 and Iran's IEDs. Your claim that it
does is, well, it's a lie.

I think, and I hope, that this time our government is patient and takes the
time to get all the facts straight.

If Iran is in fact supplying the insurgents, then I think strong diplomatic
steps should be taken and Iran should
have heavy sanctions put in place.

I don't think the talk of "war", is a good idea.

And you are right, the "once a liar, always a liar" isn't true.

"Bill Bonde ( Not endorsed by Hootia and the Blowfish )"

What does that make you? If Bush was wrong about 2002 and Iraq's WMDs
doesn't make him wrong about 2007 and Iran's IEDs. Your claim that it
does is, well, it's a lie.

I think, and I hope, that this time our government is patient and takes the
time to get all the facts straight.
If Iran is in fact supplying the insurgents, then I think strong diplomatic
steps should be taken and Iran should
have heavy sanctions put in place.

"james g. keegan jr." wrote:

³I can say with certainty that the Quds Force, a part of the Iranian
government, has provided these sophisticated I.E.D.¹s that have
harmed our troops.²
--Bush, today, at his press conference

"The danger to our country is grave and it is growing. The Iraqi
regime possesses biological and chemical weapons, is rebuilding the
facilities to make more and, according to the British government,
could launch a biological or chemical attack in as little as 45
minutes after the order is given. The regime has long-standing and
continuing ties to terrorist groups, and there are al Qaeda
terrorists inside Iraq. This regime is seeking a nuclear bomb, and
with fissile material could build one within a year."
--Bush radio address, September 28, 2002

once a liar, always a liar.

What does that make you?

If Bush was wrong about 2002