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Topic: Science > Abortion
User: "Papa Jack"
Date: 29 Jul 2003 10:05:40 AM
Object: One Man's View
The following has nothing whatsoever to do with
abortion. But, it is interesting to read. What
do YOU think?
__________________________________________________________________________
Andy Rooney said on 60 minutes a few weeks back: (for those of you
that don't know Andy Rooney, he is a 82 year old US TV commentator)
I like big cars, big boats, big motorcycles, big houses and big
campfires.
I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some
governmental stooge with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away
to crack addicts for squirting out babies.
Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing makes you a killer.
You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is
trying to ban you from driving to the ball game.
I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for a reason, that is
why there are no girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts!
ARE YOU LISTENING MARTHA BURKE?
I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a
phobia, it is an opinion.
I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything
except numbers. The only things I can think of that are truly
discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund,
Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black
America. Try to have things like the United Caucasian College
Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss
White America; and see what happens. Jesse Jackson will be
knocking down your door.
I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are
different, weird, or tick me off.
When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities
where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial
profiling, it is the Law of Probability.
I know what sex is, and there are not varying degrees of it. If
I received sex from one of my subordinates in my office, it
wouldn't be a private matter or my personal business. I would
be "FIRED" immediately!
I believe that if you are selling me a milk shake, a pack of
cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in
English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American
citizen, you should have to speak English!
My father and grandfather didn't die in vain so you can leave the
countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours. I
think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry self
if you threaten them after they tell you to stop. If you can't
understand the word "freeze" or "stop" in English, see the above
lines.
I feel much safer letting a machine with no political affiliation
recount votes when needed. I know what the definition of lying is.
I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you
are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored
bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open a hotel, coffee
shop, trinket store, or any other business.
We did not go to the aid of certain foreign countries and risk our
lives in wars to defend their freedoms, so that decades later they
could come over here and tell us our constitution is a living
document; and open to their interpretations.
I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor. I know pro wrestling
is fake, but so are movies and television. That doesn't stop you
from watching them.
I believe a self-righteous liberal or conservative with a cause is
more dangerous than a Hell's Angel with an attitude.
I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and
continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the next
operating system that's better, and put your name on the building.
Ask your buddy that invented the Internet to help you.
It doesn't take a whole village to raise a child right, but it does
take a parent to stand up to the kid; and smack their little behinds
when necessary, and say "NO!"
"I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please
don't pretend they are a political statement. And, please, stay home
until that new lip ring heals. I don't want to look at your ugly
infected mouth as you serve me French fries!
I am sick of "Political Correctness." I know a lot of black people,
and not a single one of them was born in Africa; so how can they be
"African Americans"? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go
around saying I am a European American because my great, great,
great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe. I am proud
to be from America and nowhere else
And if you don't like my point of view, tough. DON'T PASS IT ON!!
__________________________________________________________________________
.

User: "dkat"

Title: Re: One Man's View 30 Jul 2003 10:32:06 AM
Highly unlikely that Rooney wrote this since I have heard him say the exact
opposite on most of these issues....
"Papa Jack" <papajack@stic.net> wrote in message
news:6f9e1b49.0307290705.6e5ee3a7@posting.google.com...

The following has nothing whatsoever to do with
abortion. But, it is interesting to read. What
do YOU think?
__________________________________________________________________________

Andy Rooney said on 60 minutes a few weeks back: (for those of you
that don't know Andy Rooney, he is a 82 year old US TV commentator)

I like big cars, big boats, big motorcycles, big houses and big
campfires.

I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some
governmental stooge with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away
to crack addicts for squirting out babies.

Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing makes you a killer.
You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is
trying to ban you from driving to the ball game.

I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for a reason, that is
why there are no girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts!
ARE YOU LISTENING MARTHA BURKE?

I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a
phobia, it is an opinion.

I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything
except numbers. The only things I can think of that are truly
discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund,
Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black
America. Try to have things like the United Caucasian College
Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss
White America; and see what happens. Jesse Jackson will be
knocking down your door.

I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are
different, weird, or tick me off.

When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities
where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial
profiling, it is the Law of Probability.

I know what sex is, and there are not varying degrees of it. If
I received sex from one of my subordinates in my office, it
wouldn't be a private matter or my personal business. I would
be "FIRED" immediately!

I believe that if you are selling me a milk shake, a pack of
cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in
English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American
citizen, you should have to speak English!

My father and grandfather didn't die in vain so you can leave the
countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours. I
think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry self
if you threaten them after they tell you to stop. If you can't
understand the word "freeze" or "stop" in English, see the above
lines.

I feel much safer letting a machine with no political affiliation
recount votes when needed. I know what the definition of lying is.

I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you
are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored
bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open a hotel, coffee
shop, trinket store, or any other business.

We did not go to the aid of certain foreign countries and risk our
lives in wars to defend their freedoms, so that decades later they
could come over here and tell us our constitution is a living
document; and open to their interpretations.

I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor. I know pro wrestling
is fake, but so are movies and television. That doesn't stop you
from watching them.

I believe a self-righteous liberal or conservative with a cause is
more dangerous than a Hell's Angel with an attitude.

I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and
continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the next
operating system that's better, and put your name on the building.
Ask your buddy that invented the Internet to help you.

It doesn't take a whole village to raise a child right, but it does
take a parent to stand up to the kid; and smack their little behinds
when necessary, and say "NO!"

"I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please
don't pretend they are a political statement. And, please, stay home
until that new lip ring heals. I don't want to look at your ugly
infected mouth as you serve me French fries!

I am sick of "Political Correctness." I know a lot of black people,
and not a single one of them was born in Africa; so how can they be
"African Americans"? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go
around saying I am a European American because my great, great,
great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe. I am proud
to be from America and nowhere else

And if you don't like my point of view, tough. DON'T PASS IT ON!!
__________________________________________________________________________

.

User: "Pat Winstanley"

Title: Re: One Man's View 29 Jul 2003 01:32:21 PM
In article <6f9e1b49.0307290705.6e5ee3a7@posting.google.com>,
says...

Subject: One Man's View
From:

(Papa Jack)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion, alt.abortion

The following has nothing whatsoever to do with
abortion. But, it is interesting to read. What
do YOU think?
__________________________________________________________________________

Andy Rooney said on 60 minutes a few weeks back: (for those of you
that don't know Andy Rooney, he is a 82 year old US TV commentator)

I like big cars, big boats, big motorcycles, big houses and big
campfires.

I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some
governmental stooge with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away
to crack addicts for squirting out babies.

Must be one of the rare pro-abortion people... the ones we never usually
see.
.

User: "Adam H. "

Title: Re: One Man's View 29 Jul 2003 10:20:44 AM
On 29 Jul 2003 08:05:40 -0700,
(Papa Jack) wrote:

The following has nothing whatsoever to do with
abortion. But, it is interesting to read. What
do YOU think?

I think that it's a legend that Rooney ever wrote this. Check your
sources (for once).
http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/rooney.asp

__________________________________________________________________________

Andy Rooney said on 60 minutes a few weeks back: (for those of you
that don't know Andy Rooney, he is a 82 year old US TV commentator)

I like big cars, big boats, big motorcycles, big houses and big
campfires.

I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some
governmental stooge with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away
to crack addicts for squirting out babies.

Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing makes you a killer.
You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is
trying to ban you from driving to the ball game.

I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for a reason, that is
why there are no girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts!
ARE YOU LISTENING MARTHA BURKE?

I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a
phobia, it is an opinion.

I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything
except numbers. The only things I can think of that are truly
discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund,
Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black
America. Try to have things like the United Caucasian College
Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss
White America; and see what happens. Jesse Jackson will be
knocking down your door.

I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are
different, weird, or tick me off.

When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities
where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial
profiling, it is the Law of Probability.

I know what sex is, and there are not varying degrees of it. If
I received sex from one of my subordinates in my office, it
wouldn't be a private matter or my personal business. I would
be "FIRED" immediately!

I believe that if you are selling me a milk shake, a pack of
cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in
English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American
citizen, you should have to speak English!

My father and grandfather didn't die in vain so you can leave the
countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours. I
think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry self
if you threaten them after they tell you to stop. If you can't
understand the word "freeze" or "stop" in English, see the above
lines.

I feel much safer letting a machine with no political affiliation
recount votes when needed. I know what the definition of lying is.

I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you
are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored
bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open a hotel, coffee
shop, trinket store, or any other business.

We did not go to the aid of certain foreign countries and risk our
lives in wars to defend their freedoms, so that decades later they
could come over here and tell us our constitution is a living
document; and open to their interpretations.

I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor. I know pro wrestling
is fake, but so are movies and television. That doesn't stop you
from watching them.

I believe a self-righteous liberal or conservative with a cause is
more dangerous than a Hell's Angel with an attitude.

I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and
continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the next
operating system that's better, and put your name on the building.
Ask your buddy that invented the Internet to help you.

It doesn't take a whole village to raise a child right, but it does
take a parent to stand up to the kid; and smack their little behinds
when necessary, and say "NO!"

"I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please
don't pretend they are a political statement. And, please, stay home
until that new lip ring heals. I don't want to look at your ugly
infected mouth as you serve me French fries!

I am sick of "Political Correctness." I know a lot of black people,
and not a single one of them was born in Africa; so how can they be
"African Americans"? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go
around saying I am a European American because my great, great,
great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe. I am proud
to be from America and nowhere else

And if you don't like my point of view, tough. DON'T PASS IT ON!!
__________________________________________________________________________

.

User: "Susan C. Mitchell"

Title: Re: One Man's View 30 Jul 2003 05:45:18 AM
On 29 Jul 2003 15:03:50 -0700,
(Spartakus)
wrote:

papajack@stic.net (Papa Jack) wrote...

The following has nothing whatsoever to do with
abortion. But, it is interesting to read. What
do YOU think?

Andy Rooney said on 60 minutes a few weeks back: (for those of you
that don't know Andy Rooney, he is a 82 year old US TV commentator)

I like big cars, big boats, big motorcycles, big houses and big
campfires.


[...]

http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/badrooney.html

"The above rant was not written by the America's favorite
curmudgeonly commentator and has never been featured on
'60 Minutes.' The text is a liberally edited version of
a popular rant that has been incorrectly attributed to
George Carlin, Ted Nugent, Dennis Leary and Rush Limbaugh,
to name a few. Rooney is just the latest celebrity to
fall victim to the 'well, he ought to have said it'
mindset of e-mail chain letter forwarders. A quick check
of Rooney's archive on CBS.com proves that he never said
it on the air.

"Actually, the rant above originated in in a
FreeRepublic.com forum in 2000. It was titled "I am a Bad
Republican" and was posted by an author known only as
'Bootyist Monk,' who takes full responsibility for it.

In short, the text attributed to Andy Rooney is a freeper rant. So now you know.

You and Adam have both debunked this item. I wonder how long it will
take Papa Jack to acknowledge it?
Think globally, act locally.
Susan
--
=============== Remove what you find annoying in my address ==============
"Gadfly is what they call you when you are no longer | Seditious libel
dangerous. I much prefer troublemaker, malcontent, | for fun and
desperado." -- Harlan Ellison | profit
.
User: "Spartakus"

Title: Re: One Man's View 30 Jul 2003 01:22:50 PM
Susan C. Mitchell <susancm@earthlink.annoyance.net> wrote...

spartakus@my-deja.com (Spartakus) wrote:

papajack@stic.net (Papa Jack) wrote...

The following has nothing whatsoever to do with
abortion. But, it is interesting to read. What
do YOU think?

Andy Rooney said on 60 minutes a few weeks back: (for those of you
that don't know Andy Rooney, he is a 82 year old US TV commentator)

I like big cars, big boats, big motorcycles, big houses and big
campfires.

[...]

http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/badrooney.html

[...]

In short, the text attributed to Andy Rooney is a freeper rant.
So now you know.

You and Adam have both debunked this item. I wonder how long it
will take Papa Jack to acknowledge it?

Oh, I don't know. It's not like Papa Jack's credibility was at stake
or anything. ;-)
.
User: "Susan C. Mitchell"

Title: Re: One Man's View 01 Aug 2003 03:20:16 AM
On 30 Jul 2003 11:22:50 -0700,
(Spartakus)
wrote:

Susan C. Mitchell <susancm@earthlink.annoyance.net> wrote...

(Spartakus) wrote:

papajack@stic.net (Papa Jack) wrote...


The following has nothing whatsoever to do with
abortion. But, it is interesting to read. What
do YOU think?

Andy Rooney said on 60 minutes a few weeks back: (for those of you
that don't know Andy Rooney, he is a 82 year old US TV commentator)

I like big cars, big boats, big motorcycles, big houses and big
campfires.


[...]

http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/badrooney.html


[...]

In short, the text attributed to Andy Rooney is a freeper rant.
So now you know.


You and Adam have both debunked this item. I wonder how long it
will take Papa Jack to acknowledge it?


Oh, I don't know. It's not like Papa Jack's credibility was at stake
or anything. ;-)

Credit where it's due, he did (in
6f9e1b49.0307301525.4da391f6@posting.google.com) acknowledge that he
"got taken", that he reposted something he got from a friend without
taking the time to check it out.
He didn't acknowledge his mistake until a fellow anti-choicer pointed
it out, but he did acknowledge it.
Think globally, act locally.
Susan
--
=============== Remove what you find annoying in my address ==============
"Gadfly is what they call you when you are no longer | Seditious libel
dangerous. I much prefer troublemaker, malcontent, | for fun and
desperado." -- Harlan Ellison | profit
.



User: ""

Title: Re: One Man's View 30 Jul 2003 11:22:40 AM
Papa Jack (papajack@stic.net) wrote:
: The following has nothing whatsoever to do with
: abortion. But, it is interesting to read. What
: do YOU think?
This essay is a forgery; it represents views a bit too far out even for
Andy Rooney. I recall discussion of this from one of the newsgroups I
frequent not very long ago.
John Savard
.
User: "Papa Jack"

Title: Re: One Man's View 30 Jul 2003 06:25:41 PM

jsavard@ecn.ab.ca () wrote in message > news:<khSVa.4587$Fy1.211026@localhost>...

Papa Jack (papajack@stic.net) wrote:

====================================================================

: Papa Jack wrote:
: The following has nothing whatsoever to do with
: abortion. But, it is interesting to read. What
: do YOU think?

====================================================================

John Savard wrote:
This essay is a forgery; it represents views a bit too
far out even for Andy Rooney. I recall discussion of
this from one of the newsgroups I frequent not very
long ago.

====================================================================
Papa Jack replied:
You're right, John. I got taken. Received it from
a friend and didn't do my homework to check it out.
I apologize to our readers.
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: One Man's View 31 Jul 2003 12:04:55 AM
Papa Jackass <papajack@stic.net> wrote:

You're right, John. I got taken. Received it from
a friend and didn't do my homework to check it out.

What're the odds?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.



User: "Frank Dwyer"

Title: Re: One Man's View 29 Jul 2003 01:43:13 PM
Papa Jack wrote:


The following has nothing whatsoever to do with
abortion. But, it is interesting to read. What
do YOU think?

I think it's a lie.

Andy Rooney said on 60 minutes a few weeks back:

Andy Rooney never said any such thing.
.

User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: One Man's View 29 Jul 2003 10:30:50 AM
Papa Jackass <papajack@stic.net> wrote:

The following has nothing whatsoever to do with
abortion. But, it is interesting to read. What
do YOU think?

Prejudice, selfishness, and greed are never pretty.

__________________________________________________________________________

Andy Rooney said on 60 minutes a few weeks back: (for those of you
that don't know Andy Rooney, he is a 82 year old US TV commentator)

I like big cars, big boats, big motorcycles, big houses and big
campfires.

I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some
governmental stooge with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away
to crack addicts for squirting out babies.

Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing makes you a killer.
You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is
trying to ban you from driving to the ball game.

I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for a reason, that is
why there are no girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts!
ARE YOU LISTENING MARTHA BURKE?

I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a
phobia, it is an opinion.

I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything
except numbers. The only things I can think of that are truly
discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund,
Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black
America. Try to have things like the United Caucasian College
Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss
White America; and see what happens. Jesse Jackson will be
knocking down your door.

I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are
different, weird, or tick me off.

When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities
where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial
profiling, it is the Law of Probability.

I know what sex is, and there are not varying degrees of it. If
I received sex from one of my subordinates in my office, it
wouldn't be a private matter or my personal business. I would
be "FIRED" immediately!

I believe that if you are selling me a milk shake, a pack of
cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in
English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American
citizen, you should have to speak English!

My father and grandfather didn't die in vain so you can leave the
countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours. I
think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry self
if you threaten them after they tell you to stop. If you can't
understand the word "freeze" or "stop" in English, see the above
lines.

I feel much safer letting a machine with no political affiliation
recount votes when needed. I know what the definition of lying is.

I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you
are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored
bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open a hotel, coffee
shop, trinket store, or any other business.

We did not go to the aid of certain foreign countries and risk our
lives in wars to defend their freedoms, so that decades later they
could come over here and tell us our constitution is a living
document; and open to their interpretations.

I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor. I know pro wrestling
is fake, but so are movies and television. That doesn't stop you
from watching them.

I believe a self-righteous liberal or conservative with a cause is
more dangerous than a Hell's Angel with an attitude.

I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and
continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the next
operating system that's better, and put your name on the building.
Ask your buddy that invented the Internet to help you.

It doesn't take a whole village to raise a child right, but it does
take a parent to stand up to the kid; and smack their little behinds
when necessary, and say "NO!"

"I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please
don't pretend they are a political statement. And, please, stay home
until that new lip ring heals. I don't want to look at your ugly
infected mouth as you serve me French fries!

I am sick of "Political Correctness." I know a lot of black people,
and not a single one of them was born in Africa; so how can they be
"African Americans"? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go
around saying I am a European American because my great, great,
great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe. I am proud
to be from America and nowhere else

And if you don't like my point of view, tough. DON'T PASS IT ON!!
__________________________________________________________________________

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.


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