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"IBen Getiner" |
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11 Jul 2005 11:20:01 PM |
| Object: |
One-Sided Abortion |
Get it...??
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http://www.priestsforlife.org/resources/monica/m127.jpg
Got it....
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: One-Sided Abortion |
12 Jul 2005 08:02:30 AM |
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On 11 Jul 2005 21:20:01 -0700,
Moronic Bigot, "Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:
...NOTHING worthwhile, as usual. And in line with the
subject headers of his recent demonstrations of his ignorance
and asininity --
... abortion is not the LEAST BIT "evil," "vile," "wicked,"
"selfish," "sick," "murderous," "immoral," "insidious," or
"heinous."
In fact, it is the exact OPPOSITE of all those ludicrous
descriptions.
Abortion is nothing more than a hugely-beneficial REMEDY
for the unwanted medical condition of ill-timed pregnancy, for
all who choose to access it.
Like ALL other remedies, it is a form of SELF-DEFENSE on
the part of the victim against the offending pathology.
And over any given recent 18-year-long period, it has enabled,
and continues to enable, no fewer than a BILLION (with a "B")
girls and women, worldwide, to immediately put their lives back
on track, and have complete RESTORATION of their well-being,
and full range of future opportunities, to the status enjoyed
BEFORE the ill-timed pregnancy occurred. It becomes as though
that dangerous and opportunities-threatening inconvenience had
never happened. It totally UNDOES and *reverses* the unwanted
condition. Harmlessly.
(And then MOST of those girls and women go on to HAVE
children later on, also by choice -- when the timing for that is
better and more opportune for them. Thus, there is no impact
on population growth... despite the fact that LYING that it does
that is part of the hate-propaganda and disinformation that is
ignorantly spewed by thoughtless and bigoted people like you.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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| Title: Re: One-Sided Abortion |
12 Jul 2005 09:37:06 PM |
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"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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And over any given recent 18-year-long period, it has enabled,
and continues to enable, no fewer than a BILLION (with a "B")
girls and women, worldwide, to immediately put their lives back
on track, and have complete RESTORATION of their well-being,
and full range of future opportunities, to the status enjoyed
BEFORE the ill-timed pregnancy occurred. It becomes as though
that dangerous and opportunities-threatening inconvenience had
never happened. It totally UNDOES and *reverses* the unwanted
condition. Harmlessly.
========================
Ah yes, but THAT doesn't punish those "immoral" women for having sex! That
doesn't force motherhood on those not ready or able to be good parents.
That doesn't dump thousands of unwanted infants into Foster Care because
there aren't enough people to adopt them - unless of course they're healthy,
white and less than a year old.
--
CR......
http://silentlambs.org
www.freeminds.org
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived."
-= Isaac Asimov =-
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: One-Sided Abortion |
13 Jul 2005 05:46:14 AM |
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"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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And over any given recent 18-year-long period, it has enabled,
and continues to enable, no fewer than a BILLION (with a "B")
girls and women, worldwide, to immediately put their lives back
on track, and have complete RESTORATION of their well-being,
and full range of future opportunities, to the status enjoyed
BEFORE the ill-timed pregnancy occurred. It becomes as though
that dangerous and opportunities-threatening inconvenience had
never happened. It totally UNDOES and *reverses* the unwanted
condition. Harmlessly.
========================
Ah yes, but THAT doesn't punish those "immoral" women for having sex!
That
doesn't force motherhood on those not ready or able to be good parents.
That doesn't dump thousands of unwanted infants into Foster Care because
there aren't enough people to adopt them - unless of course they're
healthy,
white and less than a year old.
Why are you focusing on the gender-biased crutch?
Why are you such a dupe of the assholes who do NOT love women?
Why don't you actually focus on the men who get the women pregnant who have
abortions and try to make them behave instead of acting like anti-abortion
protesters are somehow not loving women or wanting to punish women?
LOL!!!!!!!!
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: One-Sided Abortion |
13 Jul 2005 08:39:10 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
:"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
:news:42d47944$0$3534$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com...
:> "Craig Chilton" <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote in message
:> news:smf7d15a86vkhisp2qagg9p4c2p883tr63@4ax.com...
:>> And over any given recent 18-year-long period, it has enabled,
:>> and continues to enable, no fewer than a BILLION (with a "B")
:>> girls and women, worldwide, to immediately put their lives back
:>> on track, and have complete RESTORATION of their well-being,
:>> and full range of future opportunities, to the status enjoyed
:>> BEFORE the ill-timed pregnancy occurred. It becomes as though
:>> that dangerous and opportunities-threatening inconvenience had
:>> never happened. It totally UNDOES and *reverses* the unwanted
:>> condition. Harmlessly.
:> Ah yes, but THAT doesn't punish those "immoral" women for having sex! That
:> doesn't force motherhood on those not ready or able to be good parents.
:> That doesn't dump thousands of unwanted infants into Foster Care because
:> there aren't enough people to adopt them - unless of course they're
:> healthy, white and less than a year old.
:Why are you focusing on the gender-biased crutch?
He's not. That's YOUR psychosis, whining that abortion is "gender biased" for
no apparent reason other than that men can't get pregnant.
:Why are you such a dupe of the assholes who do NOT love women?
He's not YOUR dupe, moron. You can't stand women who do as they choose and
ignore you. Maybe that's part of why you're a 44-year-old virgin, no?
:Why don't you actually focus on the men who get the women pregnant who have
:abortions and try to make them behave instead of acting like anti-abortion
:protesters are somehow not loving women or wanting to punish women?
Why don't you get back on your meds, Kook Wentzky?
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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| Title: Re: One-Sided Abortion |
14 Jul 2005 06:50:46 PM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
:Why are you such a dupe of the assholes who do NOT love women?
He's not YOUR dupe, moron. You can't stand women who do as they choose
and
ignore you. Maybe that's part of why you're a 44-year-old virgin, no?
==========================
He's a 44 year old virgin? You're kidding us - right? There's something
wrong with that picture.
--
CR.....
"Men never do evil so completely and
cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."
~ Blaise Pascal (1623-1662) ~
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: One-Sided Abortion |
16 Jul 2005 07:58:27 PM |
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"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk1x62i2td.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
:Why are you such a dupe of the assholes who do NOT love women?
He's not YOUR dupe, moron. You can't stand women who do as they choose and
ignore you. Maybe that's part of why you're a 44-year-old virgin, no?
He's a 44 year old virgin? You're kidding us - right? There's something
wrong with that picture.
Based on his ravings over the few years he's been a willing clay pigeon, I'd
be a mite surprised if *any* female got near him...
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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| Title: Re: One-Sided Abortion |
13 Jul 2005 01:51:26 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:smf7d15a86vkhisp2qagg9p4c2p883tr63@4ax.com...
And over any given recent 18-year-long period, it has enabled,
and continues to enable, no fewer than a BILLION (with a "B")
girls and women, worldwide, to immediately put their lives back
on track, and have complete RESTORATION of their well-being,
and full range of future opportunities, to the status enjoyed
BEFORE the ill-timed pregnancy occurred. It becomes as though
that dangerous and opportunities-threatening inconvenience had
never happened. It totally UNDOES and *reverses* the unwanted
condition. Harmlessly.
========================
Ah yes, but THAT doesn't punish those "immoral" women for having sex!
That
doesn't force motherhood on those not ready or able to be good parents.
That doesn't dump thousands of unwanted infants into Foster Care because
there aren't enough people to adopt them - unless of course they're
healthy,
white and less than a year old.
Why are you focusing on the gender-biased crutch?
## Oh? Are MEN getting pregnant and giving birth now? That's news to me.
:-)
Why are you such a dupe of the assholes who do NOT love women?
## So to love them we should punish them and their unborn children?
Why don't you actually focus on the men who get the women pregnant who
have
abortions and try to make them behave
## How? Do you suggest we castrte them? Put them in prison? I'm all for
it! :-)
instead of acting like anti-abortion
protesters
## Anti-abortion protesters should put their MONEY where their mouth is.
They should also mind their own business and not try to force their beliefs
on other people.
are somehow not loving women or wanting to punish women?
## So they love them by punishing them or are they now going after the men
to imprison and castrate them?
LOL!!!!!!!!
CR.....
All the JWs wish for is walking around the COUNTRYSIDE (never any towns
pictured in the WT rags) smiling like the village idiot and carrying
baskets of veggies and fruit with them. Also note they all live in suit
pants and dress shirts. The women live in housedresses of 1952 vintage.....
and they call that paradise? Any normal human being would rapidly be bored
to death looking at trees, grass, each other's ever smiling faces and eating
a vegetarian diet.
They'd soon be longing for a good book, a movie, a Mall or a steak
dinner..... (Carol)
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: One-Sided Abortion |
13 Jul 2005 04:02:21 PM |
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"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:smf7d15a86vkhisp2qagg9p4c2p883tr63@4ax.com...
And over any given recent 18-year-long period, it has enabled,
and continues to enable, no fewer than a BILLION (with a "B")
girls and women, worldwide, to immediately put their lives back
on track, and have complete RESTORATION of their well-being,
and full range of future opportunities, to the status enjoyed
BEFORE the ill-timed pregnancy occurred. It becomes as though
that dangerous and opportunities-threatening inconvenience had
never happened. It totally UNDOES and *reverses* the unwanted
condition. Harmlessly.
========================
Ah yes, but THAT doesn't punish those "immoral" women for having sex!
That
doesn't force motherhood on those not ready or able to be good parents.
That doesn't dump thousands of unwanted infants into Foster Care
because
there aren't enough people to adopt them - unless of course they're
healthy,
white and less than a year old.
Why are you focusing on the gender-biased crutch?
## Oh? Are MEN getting pregnant and giving birth now?
They're not getting pregnant with unwanted children who would burden down
the system.
Why are you focusing on gender specific issues when you could be focusing on
errant behaviors which cause these problems?
That's news to me.
:-)
Why are you such a dupe of the assholes who do NOT love women?
## So to love them we should punish them and their unborn children?
Your idea is to punish them?
Is that why you love to abandon them to abortion and to risk their fetility
and to put them at increased risk of breast cancer?
Is that why you lobby for abortion on demand rather than for responsible
behavior and responsible policy?
Why don't you actually focus on the men who get the women pregnant who
have
abortions and try to make them behave
## How? Do you suggest we castrte them? Put them in prison? I'm all for
it! :-)
I'm for taking care of the children that are produced.
How do you prove you have love children when you are for sacrificing them on
a demand/choice basis?
instead of acting like anti-abortion
protesters
## Anti-abortion protesters should put their MONEY where their mouth is.
You think they should pay for other persons' children who they had no part
in bringing into the world?
They should also mind their own business and not try to force their
beliefs
on other people.
Why not?
That is exactly what Roe V Wade is about. It is other persons' agenda forced
upon the entire nation without a vote of the legislative bodies or of the
people.
are somehow not loving women or wanting to punish women?
## So they love them by punishing them or are they now going after the men
to imprison and castrate them?
What do you think they do to their sons and daughters who are involved in
the porno business?
LOL!!!!!!!!
CR.....
All the JWs wish for is walking around the COUNTRYSIDE (never any towns
pictured in the WT rags) smiling like the village idiot and carrying
baskets of veggies and fruit with them. Also note they all live in suit
pants and dress shirts. The women live in housedresses of 1952
vintage.....
and they call that paradise? Any normal human being would rapidly be
bored
to death looking at trees, grass, each other's ever smiling faces and
eating
a vegetarian diet.
You are bored by such as you metnioned in your latter sentence?
They'd soon be longing for a good book, a movie, a Mall or a steak
dinner..... (Carol)
But, how is it that that is not normal to you?
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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| Title: Re: One-Sided Abortion |
13 Jul 2005 08:58:21 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:smf7d15a86vkhisp2qagg9p4c2p883tr63@4ax.com...
And over any given recent 18-year-long period, it has enabled,
and continues to enable, no fewer than a BILLION (with a "B")
girls and women, worldwide, to immediately put their lives back
on track, and have complete RESTORATION of their well-being,
and full range of future opportunities, to the status enjoyed
BEFORE the ill-timed pregnancy occurred. It becomes as though
that dangerous and opportunities-threatening inconvenience had
never happened. It totally UNDOES and *reverses* the unwanted
condition. Harmlessly.
========================
Ah yes, but THAT doesn't punish those "immoral" women for having sex!
That
doesn't force motherhood on those not ready or able to be good
parents.
That doesn't dump thousands of unwanted infants into Foster Care
because
there aren't enough people to adopt them - unless of course they're
healthy,
white and less than a year old.
Why are you focusing on the gender-biased crutch?
## Oh? Are MEN getting pregnant and giving birth now?
They're not getting pregnant with unwanted children who would burden down
the system.
## Neither do women if they could get fast affordable abortions so how is it
gender-biased?
Why are you focusing on gender specific issues
## Which ones are gender-specific?
when you could be focusing on
errant behaviors which cause these problems?
## Which errant behaviors and what makes them errant?
That's news to me.
:-)
Why are you such a dupe of the assholes who do NOT love women?
## So to love them we should punish them and their unborn children?
Your idea is to punish them?
## No, that's what you're suggesting we do.
Is that why you love to abandon them to abortion and to risk their
fetility
and to put them at increased risk of breast cancer?
## And you offer to pay their bills and adopt all the unwanted children
they produce? How do you afford to feed them? Are you a billionaire
Johnny? What organization do you own and run?
Is that why you lobby for abortion on demand rather than for responsible
behavior and responsible policy?
## How you propose we FORCE people into responsible behavior? Torture them?
Imprison them? Execute them if they misbehave? Have public whippings?
Why don't you actually focus on the men who get the women pregnant who
have
abortions and try to make them behave
## How? Do you suggest we castrte them? Put them in prison? I'm all
for
it! :-)
I'm for taking care of the children that are produced.
## Who isn't, but there aren't enough people to adopt the unwanted ones
there are now.
How do you prove you have love children when you are for sacrificing them
on
a demand/choice basis?
## How do you prove you love children when you are for dumping them into
Foster Care homes, back alleys, dumpsters, park trash cans, women's toilets
etc? Or forcing resentful women to take care of them who don't want them or
love them?
instead of acting like anti-abortion
protesters
## Anti-abortion protesters should put their MONEY where their mouth is.
You think they should pay for other persons' children who they had no part
in bringing into the world?
## What makes you think others should PAY for these unwanted children they
had no part in bringing into the world?
They should also mind their own business and not try to force their
beliefs
on other people.
Why not?
## How about we force our beliefs on you?
That is exactly what Roe V Wade is about. It is other persons' agenda
forced
upon the entire nation without a vote of the legislative bodies or of the
people.
## Then don't get an abortion! What can be simpler? :-) No one is forcing
you to abort your unwanted children.
are somehow not loving women or wanting to punish women?
## So they love them by punishing them or are they now going after the
men
to imprison and castrate them?
What do you think they do to their sons and daughters who are involved in
the porno business?
## Who? I never knew anyone who's children were in the porn business.
You are bored by such as you metnioned in your latter sentence?
## Which sentence?
They'd soon be longing for a good book, a movie, a Mall or a steak
dinner..... (Carol)
But, how is it that that is not normal to you?
## What's not normal for me?
--
CR......
All the JWs wish for is walking around the COUNTRYSIDE (never any towns
pictured in the WT rags) smiling like the village idiot and carrying
baskets of veggies and fruit with them. Also note they all live in suit
pants and dress shirts. The women live in housedresses of 1952 vintage.....
and they call that paradise? Any normal human being would rapidly be bored
to death looking at trees, grass, each other's ever smiling faces and eating
a vegetarian diet.
They'd soon be longing for a good book, a movie, a Mall or a steak
dinner..... (Carol)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: One-Sided Abortion |
13 Jul 2005 09:16:17 PM |
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"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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And over any given recent 18-year-long period, it has enabled,
and continues to enable, no fewer than a BILLION (with a "B")
girls and women, worldwide, to immediately put their lives back
on track, and have complete RESTORATION of their well-being,
and full range of future opportunities, to the status enjoyed
BEFORE the ill-timed pregnancy occurred. It becomes as though
that dangerous and opportunities-threatening inconvenience had
never happened. It totally UNDOES and *reverses* the unwanted
condition. Harmlessly.
========================
Ah yes, but THAT doesn't punish those "immoral" women for having
sex!
That
doesn't force motherhood on those not ready or able to be good
parents.
That doesn't dump thousands of unwanted infants into Foster Care
because
there aren't enough people to adopt them - unless of course they're
healthy,
white and less than a year old.
Why are you focusing on the gender-biased crutch?
## Oh? Are MEN getting pregnant and giving birth now?
They're not getting pregnant with unwanted children who would burden down
the system.
## Neither do women if they could get fast affordable abortions so how is
it
gender-biased?
Women are burdening the system and some men are doing that, too because of
their lack of self-control.
Abortion steals wealth from the populace.
Read about opportunity cost and public wealth if you want to understand how
abortions and self-centered, sex freaks are burdening the system.
Why are you focusing on gender specific issues
## Which ones are gender-specific?
Pro-Choice.
when you could be focusing on
errant behaviors which cause these problems?
## Which errant behaviors and what makes them errant?
If the behavior is not errant then why the abortion?
That's news to me.
:-)
Why are you such a dupe of the assholes who do NOT love women?
## So to love them we should punish them and their unborn children?
Your idea is to punish them?
## No, that's what you're suggesting we do.
Where?
You accuse me of that, yet there is no proof of it.
Is that why you love to abandon them to abortion and to risk their
fetility
and to put them at increased risk of breast cancer?
## And you offer to pay their bills and adopt all the unwanted children
they produce?
Me? What if I did NOT impregnate them?
Your focus is misdirected.
How do you afford to feed them?
The ones I impregnate?
Maybe you need to go back to take a class in Life101 and figure that out if
you need to ask.
Are you a billionaire
Johnny?
Why? Would it make a difference to someone as fickle as you?
What organization do you own and run?
Why do you care?
Are you that fickle and unloving of persons unless they have some status
and/or wealth to satisfy your personal lusts?
Is that why you lobby for abortion on demand rather than for responsible
behavior and responsible policy?
## How you propose we FORCE people into responsible behavior?
Easy. As it was before the system was destroyed by Roe V Wade.
Torture them?
Your ideas are not my preference.
Imprison them? Execute them if they misbehave? Have public whippings?
Your ideas are really not my preference.
Why don't you actually focus on the men who get the women pregnant who
have
abortions and try to make them behave
## How? Do you suggest we castrte them? Put them in prison? I'm all
for
it! :-)
I'm for taking care of the children that are produced.
## Who isn't, but there aren't enough people to adopt the unwanted ones
there are now.
Where are the "Unwanted children"?
They are dead.
But some people would give almost anything to get their baby back.
Maybe you should stop acting like an uncaring broad and learn to have some
compassion on people instead of letting them go without direction and love
so much.
How do you prove you have love children when you are for sacrificing them
on
a demand/choice basis?
## How do you prove you love children when you are for dumping them into
Foster Care homes, back alleys, dumpsters, park trash cans, women's
toilets
etc?
Your words are not my objective. Your escapist excuses are vain speculative
deceptions which would not occur with my plans in place.
You are forgetful of U.S. society when the problems you mention were very
very minimal.
Or forcing resentful women to take care of them who don't want them or
love them?
Which women would resent their children?
Are you trying to paint women as unloving people now?
instead of acting like anti-abortion
protesters
## Anti-abortion protesters should put their MONEY where their mouth
is.
You think they should pay for other persons' children who they had no
part
in bringing into the world?
## What makes you think others should PAY for these unwanted children they
had no part in bringing into the world?
That is your idea, not mine.
They should also mind their own business and not try to force their
beliefs
on other people.
Why not?
## How about we force our beliefs on you?
That is the current state of affairs.
That is exactly what Roe V Wade is about. It is other persons' agenda
forced
upon the entire nation without a vote of the legislative bodies or of the
people.
## Then don't get an abortion! What can be simpler? :-) No one is
forcing
you to abort your unwanted children.
The policy is still inadequate.
are somehow not loving women or wanting to punish women?
## So they love them by punishing them or are they now going after the
men
to imprison and castrate them?
Your idea again?
What do you think they do to their sons and daughters who are involved in
the porno business?
## Who? I never knew anyone who's children were in the porn business.
You're blind then.
You are bored by such as you mentioned in your latter sentence?
## Which sentence?
The thing about green grass, etc.
They'd soon be longing for a good book, a movie, a Mall or a steak
dinner..... (Carol)
But, how is it that that is not normal to you?
## What's not normal for me?
Being satisfied with the sight of green grass, etc.
--
CR......
All the JWs wish for is walking around the COUNTRYSIDE (never any towns
pictured in the WT rags) smiling like the village idiot and carrying
baskets of veggies and fruit with them. Also note they all live in suit
pants and dress shirts. The women live in housedresses of 1952
vintage.....
and they call that paradise? Any normal human being would rapidly be
bored
to death looking at trees, grass, each other's ever smiling faces and
eating
a vegetarian diet.
They'd soon be longing for a good book, a movie, a Mall or a steak
dinner..... (Carol)
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| Title: Re: One-Sided Abortion |
13 Jul 2005 09:44:15 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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## Neither do women if they could get fast affordable abortions so how
is
it
gender-biased?
Women are burdening the system and some men are doing that, too because of
their lack of self-control.
## You never heard of birth control failing?
Abortion steals wealth from the populace.
## How does it make wealth when taxpayers get stuck supporting the unwanted
children and their mothers, or foster parents?
Read about opportunity cost and public wealth if you want to understand
how
abortions and self-centered, sex freaks are burdening the system.
## How about you explain it. Sex freaks?
## Which ones are gender-specific?
Pro-Choice.
## How?
## Which errant behaviors and what makes them errant?
If the behavior is not errant then why the abortion?
## I assume you are either sexless or impotent..........
Your idea is to punish them?
## No, that's what you're suggesting we do.
Where?
You accuse me of that, yet there is no proof of it.
## The proof is you would force unwilling women to have unwanted children.
## And you offer to pay their bills and adopt all the unwanted children
they produce?
Me? What if I did NOT impregnate them?
## Then YOU have nothing to *say* about the matter.
Your focus is misdirected.
How do you afford to feed them?
The ones I impregnate?
Maybe you need to go back to take a class in Life101 and figure that out
if
you need to ask.
## Are you a billionaire or do you expect the rest of society to support
them all?
Are you a billionaire
Johnny?
Why? Would it make a difference to someone as fickle as you?
## Don't start the juvenile name calling when you have no answers.
What organization do you own and run?
Why do you care?
## Why do you want to force me as a taxpayer to support unwanted children?
Are you that fickle and unloving of persons unless they have some status
and/or wealth to satisfy your personal lusts?
## Which personal lusts?
## How you propose we FORCE people into responsible behavior?
Easy. As it was before the system was destroyed by Roe V Wade.
## Oh you mean FORCE them back to illegal abortionists in back alleys and
dark basements? How will that stop abortions?
Imprison them? Execute them if they misbehave? Have public whippings?
Your ideas are really not my preference.
## Oh, you mean FORCE them back to illegal abortionists in back alleys and
dark basements? Is that your preference?
## Who isn't, but there aren't enough people to adopt the unwanted ones
there are now.
Where are the "Unwanted children"?
## Where do you think they are?
They are dead.
## Sad.........
But some people would give almost anything to get their baby back.
## They can always have another.
Maybe you should stop acting like an uncaring broad and learn to have some
compassion on people instead of letting them go without direction and love
so much.
## Here's where I stop wasting time with you..... all you want to do is
PUNISH woman who get pregnant. Plain and simple. I hope you and other
misogynists fail to overturn RvW and force women back to ghetting dangerous
abortions....
SNIP you self-serving bullsh*t........
--
CR.....
"Men never do evil so completely and
cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."
~ Blaise Pascal (1623-1662) ~
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: One-Sided Abortion |
14 Jul 2005 07:08:55 AM |
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"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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## Neither do women if they could get fast affordable abortions so how
is
it
gender-biased?
Women are burdening the system and some men are doing that, too because
of
their lack of self-control.
## You never heard of birth control failing?
Which form of it?
Vasectomies and Tubal ligations are effective at preventing conceptions.
Abortion steals wealth from the populace.
## How does it make wealth when taxpayers get stuck supporting the
unwanted
children and their mothers, or foster parents?
Why do you act as if the taxpayers will be saddled with children they did
not create?
Why do you think the government's role is to take children away from their
parents?
Read about opportunity cost and public wealth if you want to understand
how
abortions and self-centered, sex freaks are burdening the system.
## How about you explain it.
Opportunity cost is the cost we incur by allowing funds to be spent on an
activity when they could be spent on other activities. The amount of money
that goes into the abortion on demand/choice industry could be spent
elsewhere.
Sex freaks?
Yes. Abortion on demand sex freaks who are burdening the system.
## Which ones are gender-specific?
Pro-Choice.
## How?
"A woman's right to choose."
## Which errant behaviors and what makes them errant?
If the behavior is not errant then why the abortion?
## I assume you are either sexless or impotent..........
Why do you assume that which is not applicable?
Can a man get sufficiently excited with infertile women?
You are not a man so I do not expect you to know the answer.
Why is it all about some feeling to you and so many others?
Why isn't it about love of the total person without neglecting anyone?
Your idea is to punish them?
## No, that's what you're suggesting we do.
Where?
You accuse me of that, yet there is no proof of it.
## The proof is you would force unwilling women to have unwanted
children.
How so? Where did I say I would force unwilling women to have unwanted
children?
Where did you show me that I forced any woman by having sex with her to
become pregnant?
Where did you show me that all women have no free will to do as they choose
and they are only doing what some men force them to do?
## And you offer to pay their bills and adopt all the unwanted
children
they produce?
Me? What if I did NOT impregnate them?
## Then YOU have nothing to *say* about the matter.
Wrong. As long as society has money spent in this area I am qualified to
speak about the proper use of those funds.
As a Citizen, I have equal rights to representation, and I am disgusted with
the lack of representation in the USA for me. The neglect that I experience
is illegal, in fact.
Your focus is misdirected.
How do you afford to feed them?
The ones I impregnate?
Maybe you need to go back to take a class in Life101 and figure that out
if
you need to ask.
## Are you a billionaire or do you expect the rest of society to support
them all?
Do you?
You act like it is society's responsibility to take care of children that
society did not produce.
Are you a billionaire
Johnny?
Why? Would it make a difference to someone as fickle as you?
## Don't start the juvenile name calling when you have no answers.
Whoa. How many times did you hurl an insult at me now?
I have answers. All you seem to have is excuses and scare tactics.
What organization do you own and run?
Why do you care?
## Why do you want to force me as a taxpayer to support unwanted children?
You are deluded.
Are you that fickle and unloving of persons unless they have some status
and/or wealth to satisfy your personal lusts?
## Which personal lusts?
Yours.
You didn't read that?
## How you propose we FORCE people into responsible behavior?
Easy. As it was before the system was destroyed by Roe V Wade.
## Oh you mean FORCE them back to illegal abortionists in back alleys and
dark basements?
Force who?
How many of those people were forced to do that?
LOL!!!!!!!!!
How will that stop abortions?
Read the data and you will see how it will stop abortions.
Imprison them? Execute them if they misbehave? Have public whippings?
Your ideas are really not my preference.
## Oh, you mean FORCE them back to illegal abortionists in back alleys and
dark basements?
Who forced any person to seek an abortion before Roe V Wade?
Is that your preference?
To force people to illegal abortions?
Why do you think I need to force anyone?
What happened to Pro-Choice?
## Who isn't, but there aren't enough people to adopt the unwanted
ones
there are now.
Where are the "Unwanted children"?
## Where do you think they are?
You act as if there are millions of them. so you tell me.
They are dead.
## Sad.........
LOL!!!!!!!!!!
Is it?
But, you think abortion on demand is good, and now you say its effects are
sad.
How can that be?
Why is it that something that you think is good causes sadness?
But some people would give almost anything to get their baby back.
## They can always have another.
After they go infertile?
Where'd you get this always thing from?
Maybe you should stop acting like an uncaring broad and learn to have
some
compassion on people instead of letting them go without direction and
love
so much.
## Here's where I stop wasting time with you..... all you want to do is
PUNISH woman who get pregnant.
You are deceived.
Why do you think women get pregnant?
Why do you think that women perceive pregnancy as something bad now?
Why do you act as if women are somehow degraded by being able to conceive
children?
Why are you so ashamed of yourself?
Plain and simple.
You live in shame, so find a way to overcome it without subjecting yourself
to further consternation and guilt and shame, and without raising your
proud, arrogant head above mine.
I hope you and other
misogynists
I actually love women. Yet, you seem to think that money is more important
than children and the people who love children.
fail to overturn RvW and force women back to ghetting dangerous
abortions....
I hope Roe V Wade is overturned.
And, I hope evil men will be disciplined, then you won't need abortion
nearly as much.
The current escapist agenda sucks, and it is insufficient at providing for
all our people.
SNIP you self-serving bullsh*t........
Which part?
The part you know is right?
The part where it goes against your self-serving ***** which you know is
a load of crap.
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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| Title: Re: One-Sided Abortion |
14 Jul 2005 11:45:45 AM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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## Neither do women if they could get fast affordable abortions so
how
is
it
gender-biased?
Women are burdening the system and some men are doing that, too because
of
their lack of self-control.
## You never heard of birth control failing?
Which form of it?
## Which form do you want to know about?
Vasectomies and Tubal ligations are effective at preventing conceptions.
## So you suggest all people get there as young teenagers?
## How does it make wealth when taxpayers get stuck supporting the
unwanted
children and their mothers, or foster parents?
Why do you act as if the taxpayers will be saddled with children they did
not create?
## Why do you act like the anti-choicers will support them all?
Why do you think the government's role is to take children away from their
parents?
## Why not? Many parents of unwanted children abuse and neglect them.
Read about opportunity cost and public wealth if you want to understand
how
abortions and self-centered, sex freaks are burdening the system.
## How about you explain it.
Opportunity cost is the cost we incur by allowing funds to be spent on an
activity when they could be spent on other activities.
## So it's more costly for an abortion than to support unwanted children
until they're 18 yrs old? Not here in the USA.
The amount of money
that goes into the abortion on demand/choice industry could be spent
elsewhere.
## Like where? On the hospital bills for the abused and neglected unwanted
children the Gov. removes from their homes?
Sex freaks?
Yes. Abortion on demand sex freaks who are burdening the system.
## What's a sex freak?
## Which ones are gender-specific?
Pro-Choice.
## How?
"A woman's right to choose."
## Whose CHOICE should it be? Her mother's? Her neighbor's? The old man
down the street's?
## Which errant behaviors and what makes them errant?
If the behavior is not errant then why the abortion?
## I assume you are either sexless or impotent..........
Why do you assume that which is not applicable?
## Because you obviously have some serious issues where sex is concerned.
Can a man get sufficiently excited with infertile women?
## How would he know?
You are not a man so I do not expect you to know the answer.
## Nor would a man know unless he asked her, took her temps for a few
months... etc.
Why is it all about some feeling to you and so many others?
## Feeling?
Why isn't it about love of the total person without neglecting anyone?
## Irrelevant to the subject - it's none of our business what someone does
with their body.
Your idea is to punish them?
## No, that's what you're suggesting we do.
Where?
You accuse me of that, yet there is no proof of it.
## The proof is you would force unwilling women to have unwanted
children.
How so?
## By removing her CHOICES.
Where did I say I would force unwilling women to have unwanted
children?
## Do you suffer from Alzheimer's?
Where did you show me that I forced any woman by having sex with her to
become pregnant?
## Oh, that's right! She should be SEXLESS like you and your friends -
because YOU say so. But no one cares what people like you spout endlessly
like diarrhea........
Where did you show me that all women have no free will to do as they
choose
and they are only doing what some men force them to do?
## Women do have free will - and they can abort which somehow ticks you off
because she doesn't have to pay for having sex.
Me? What if I did NOT impregnate them?
## Then YOU have nothing to *say* about the matter.
Wrong. As long as society has money spent in this area I am qualified to
speak about the proper use of those funds.
## Fine, then stop paying taxes. You have that choice.
As a Citizen, I have equal rights to representation, and I am disgusted
with
the lack of representation in the USA for me. The neglect that I
experience
is illegal, in fact.
## You poor thing. Ever think of getting a job? Maybe being a Big Brother
to some of those unwanted children out there?
## Are you a billionaire or do you expect the rest of society to support
them all?
Do you?
You act like it is society's responsibility to take care of children that
society did not produce.
## So you suggest we just dump these unwanted children you believe woman
should have once pregnant in the streets to die? Why let them starve and
die in the streets when abortion is available?
## Don't start the juvenile name calling when you have no answers.
Whoa. How many times did you hurl an insult at me now?
## Which are those? What did I "call" you?
I have answers. All you seem to have is excuses and scare tactics.
## You have no answers.
## Why do you want to force me as a taxpayer to support unwanted
children?
You are deluded.
## So you suggest we just dump these unwanted children you believe woman
should have once pregnant in the streets to die? Why let them starve and
die in the streets when abortion is available?
## Which personal lusts?
Yours.
## Which ones?
You didn't read that?
## Read what?
## How you propose we FORCE people into responsible behavior?
Easy. As it was before the system was destroyed by Roe V Wade.
## Oh you mean FORCE them back to illegal abortionists in back alleys
and
dark basements?
Force who?
## Who do you think?
How many of those people were forced to do that?
LOL!!!!!!!!!
## You find abortion humorous? How odd!
How will that stop abortions?
Read the data and you will see how it will stop abortions.
## What data? I never saw data that showed making abortion illegal stopped
woman from aborting.
## Oh, you mean FORCE them back to illegal abortionists in back alleys
and
dark basements?
Who forced any person to seek an abortion before Roe V Wade?
## Who do you think?
Is that your preference?
To force people to illegal abortions?
## They wouldn't have a choice! Birth control fails all the time.
Why do you think I need to force anyone?
## No because the woman would laugh at you.
What happened to Pro-Choice?
## Exactly! That's why abortion is safe now.
Where are the "Unwanted children"?
## Where do you think they are?
You act as if there are millions of them. so you tell me.
## You act like there are none!
They are dead.
## Sad.........
LOL!!!!!!!!!!
## I know you find abortion a very humorous subject but try and control your
mirth.
Is it?
But, you think abortion on demand is good, and now you say its effects are
sad.
## Should they be HAPPY? Of course abortion is sad. No medical procedure
is a happy event.
How can that be?
Why is it that something that you think is good causes sadness?
## Why shouldn't it? The sadness is followed by RELIEF!!!!! And the woman
goes on with her life which really ticks you off for some reason.
## They can always have another.
After they go infertile?
## They usually have them BEFORE menopause - ask your Mommy.
Where'd you get this always thing from?
## Where did you get they always go infertle?
## Here's where I stop wasting time with you..... all you want to do is
PUNISH woman who get pregnant.
You are deceived.
## By who? You?
Why do you think women get pregnant?
## Why do you think birth control fails? Luck? God? Poor quality rubber?
Why do you think that women perceive pregnancy as something bad now?
## Why do you think they should all see it as good?
Why do you act as if women are somehow degraded by being able to conceive
children?
## They are? Since when? What's degrading is forcing them back to the
backalleys and basements.
Why are you so ashamed of yourself?
## Why are YOU so ashamed of yourself?
Plain and simple.
You live in shame,
## That makes no sense.
so find a way to overcome it without subjecting yourself
to further consternation and guilt and shame, and without raising your
proud, arrogant head above mine.
## What? You must be off your meds! LOL!!!!! :-D
I hope you and other
misogynists
I actually love women.
## Then why PUNISH them?
Yet, you seem to think that money is more important
than children and the people who love children.
## If you loved women and children so much you'd be married and adopting
all those unwanted children in foster homes.
fail to overturn RvW and force women back to ghetting dangerous
abortions....
I hope Roe V Wade is overturned.
## So you can get off on every death you read and hear about?
And, I hope evil men will be disciplined, then you won't need abortion
nearly as much.
## Disciplined how? Castrated?
The current escapist agenda sucks, and it is insufficient at providing for
all our people.
## Do you ever think about anything other than to punish women with your
sick anti-choice agenda? What are you doing NOW that helps pregnant woman
and unwanted children?
SNIP you self-serving bullsh*t........
Which part?
## Actually most of everything you post.
The part you know is right?
## Where are you right about anything?
The part where it goes against your self-serving ***** which you know
is
a load of crap.
## Which self-serving *****? I'm past the age of getting pregnant. So
tell us - what are you doing NOW that helps unwilling, unhappy pregnant
woman and unwanted children already born?
--
CR.........
Aid to Bible Understanding, 1971 ed., p. 1061
"While malicious lying is definitely condemned in
the Bible, this does not mean that a person is under
obligation to divulge truthful information to people
who are not entitled to it." *WHO DECIDES?*
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http://www.intrex.net/talley/list7_13.html
So many sheep, so much fleecing.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: One-Sided Abortion |
14 Jul 2005 12:16:43 PM |
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"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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## If you loved women and children so much you'd be married and adopting
all those unwanted children in foster homes.
No, I wouldn't.
I would feel no need to adopt any child who is not an orphan or to take it
from its mother and/or father.
I would feel no need to adopt some child that the government took away from
its own parent(s).
I hope Roe V Wade is overturned.
## So you can get off on every death you read and hear about?
Sure would beat being sad about those who die.
And, I hope evil men will be disciplined, then you won't need abortion
nearly as much.
## Disciplined how? Castrated?
According to just measure.
The current escapist agenda sucks, and it is insufficient at providing
for
all our people.
## Do you ever think about anything other than to punish women with your
sick anti-choice agenda?
Every day. I do not adhere to the punish women perspective.
What are you doing NOW that helps pregnant woman
and unwanted children?
Abortion in the case of rape helps the woman.
Abortion in the case of infidelity is not just because the betrayal was
performed by the sex participant(s); hence, I would not allow an abortion
because the one who betrays another does not qualify for remedy via abortion
to escape their shame.
## Actually most of everything you post.
The part you know is right?
## Where are you right about anything?
Here. Aqui.
The part where it goes against your self-serving ***** which you know
is
a load of crap.
## Which self-serving *****?
The sexist part.
I'm past the age of getting pregnant. So
tell us - what are you doing NOW that helps unwilling, unhappy pregnant
woman and unwanted children already born?
More than I want to, I can assure you of that.
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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| Title: Re: One-Sided Abortion |
14 Jul 2005 05:11:48 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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## If you loved women and children so much you'd be married and
adopting
all those unwanted children in foster homes.
No, I wouldn't.
I would feel no need to adopt any child who is not an orphan or to take it
from its mother and/or father.
## People who want their children don't give them up.
I would feel no need to adopt some child that the government took away
from
its own parent(s).
## Why not one abandoned in a public place or trash can?
I hope Roe V Wade is overturned.
## So you can get off on every death you read and hear about?
Sure would beat being sad about those who die.
## So you admit you HATE women.
## Disciplined how? Castrated?
According to just measure.
## And what is just measure?
## Do you ever think about anything other than to punish women with your
sick anti-choice agenda?
Every day. I do not adhere to the punish women perspective.
## Trying to force them to bear unwanted children is punishment.
What are you doing NOW that helps pregnant woman
and unwanted children?
Abortion in the case of rape helps the woman.
## Is the fetus of a rapist any less human than the fetus of some other man?
Abortion in the case of infidelity is not just because the betrayal was
performed by the sex participant(s); hence, I would not allow an abortion
because the one who betrays another does not qualify for remedy via
abortion
to escape their shame.
## See! So you want to PUNISH her one way or the other. Is the fetus of
an illicit love affair any less human than the fetus of her legal husband?
## Which self-serving *****?
The sexist part.
## Which sexist part? Where I suggest we castrate the men who impregnate
woman, then abandon them?
I'm past the age of getting pregnant. So
tell us - what are you doing NOW that helps unwilling, unhappy pregnant
woman and unwanted children already born?
More than I want to, I can assure you of that.
## Such as........?
--
CR........
Aid to Bible Understanding, 1971 ed., p. 1061
"While malicious lying is definitely condemned in
the Bible, this does not mean that a person is under
obligation to divulge truthful information to people
who are not entitled to it." *WHO DECIDES?*
~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~
http://www.intrex.net/talley/list7_13.html
So many sheep, so much fleecing.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: One-Sided Abortion |
15 Jul 2005 09:22:52 AM |
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"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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## If you loved women and children so much you'd be married and
adopting
all those unwanted children in foster homes.
No, I wouldn't.
I would feel no need to adopt any child who is not an orphan or to take
it
from its mother and/or father.
## People who want their children don't give them up.
People don't give up their children when other people won't let them.
I would feel no need to adopt some child that the government took away
from
its own parent(s).
## Why not one abandoned in a public place or trash can?
Would that be my child?
That would be my choice, you know?
I could choose either to let it stay there or to take it in.
I am male. Understand their is a big difference between men and women, which
you seem to think does not exist, and you also seem to think that men are
supposed to be like women.
Why would I want a child that was abandoned by its own mother in a nation
like the USA?
Am I supposed to think that the government was issuing a hit on that child?
I hope Roe V Wade is overturned.
## So you can get off on every death you read and hear about?
Sure would beat being sad about those who die.
## So you admit you HATE women.
I admit that you are a deceived liar.
## Disciplined how? Castrated?
According to just measure.
## And what is just measure?
It isn't what you think should be done.
## Do you ever think about anything other than to punish women with
your
sick anti-choice agenda?
Every day. I do not adhere to the punish women perspective.
## Trying to force them to bear unwanted children is punishment.
How so?
Please elaborate on what you consider to be punishement.
Punishment is something that is to be used after a crime has been committed
and it is supposed to fall on the criminal.
You act as if women who have abortions committed some crime.
What are you doing NOW that helps pregnant woman
and unwanted children?
Abortion in the case of rape helps the woman.
## Is the fetus of a rapist any less human than the fetus of some other
man?
Yes. It was produced by an predatorial man who exhibited unhuman
characteristics.
If he loved women he would not rape them without their consent.
Abortion in the case of infidelity is not just because the betrayal was
performed by the sex participant(s); hence, I would not allow an abortion
because the one who betrays another does not qualify for remedy via
abortion
to escape their shame.
## See! So you want to PUNISH her one way or the other.
I am not punihsing her.
There is no such thing as an abortion that does not have some blame
associated with it.
Your reliance on the sexism that focuses only on women allows men who
committed the sin to escape punishment.
Your ignorant, diversionary tactic is reproachable and it is impolite and it
is a disgrace to our society.
Is the fetus of
an illicit love affair any less human than the fetus of her legal husband?
Did you fail to comprehend what I wrote earlier about I would NOT allow
abortion in such a case?
## Which self-serving *****?
The sexist part.
## Which sexist part?
Your reliance on sexist ignorance by focusing only on women.
Where I suggest we castrate the men who impregnate
woman, then abandon them?
No, rebellious, offended wimp.
I'm past the age of getting pregnant. So
tell us - what are you doing NOW that helps unwilling, unhappy pregnant
woman and unwanted children already born?
More than I want to, I can assure you of that.
## Such as........?
Remember the part where you said it is none of my business?
LOL!!!!!!
Why are you expecting me to have anything to do with their personal afffairs
now?
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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15 Jul 2005 10:57:02 AM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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## People who want their children don't give them up.
People don't give up their children when other people won't let them.
$$ Of course not. They simply ignore, abuse, neglect and sometimes even
KILL their unwanted children. Now you're catching on Johnny Boy. So do you
suggest we force people to keep children under those conditions?
I would feel no need to adopt some child that the government took away
from
its own parent(s).
## Why not one abandoned in a public place or trash can?
Would that be my child?
## Are those being aborted every day your children?
That would be my choice, you know?
## As aborting is the woman's choice.
I could choose either to let it stay there or to take it in.
## As a woman can chose to keep or abort her pregnancy.
I am male. Understand their is a big difference between men and women,
which
you seem to think does not exist, and you also seem to think that men are
supposed to be like women.
## Only in your feverish mind. Are you jealous that men can't give birth to
children?
Why would I want a child that was abandoned by its own mother in a nation
like the USA?
## Exactly. No one else will want it either unless it's healthy and white.
Let woman abort if it's the best thing for them at the time. You can't stop
them anyway.
Am I supposed to think that the government was issuing a hit on that
child?
## Think anything you like - but mind your own business where women and
their issues are concerned.
I hope Roe V Wade is overturned.
## So you can get off on every death you read and hear about?
Sure would beat being sad about those who die.
## So you admit you HATE women.
I admit that you are a deceived liar.
## You just admitted it above! You said, "Sure would beat being sad about
those who die."
According to just measure.
## And what is just measure?
It isn't what you think should be done.
## Then what is it? If you don't castrate them or force them to get
vasectomies they'll keep getting women pregnant and causing more abortions.
Every day. I do not adhere to the punish women perspective.
## Trying to force them to bear unwanted children is punishment.
How so?
## Why do you keep asking the same questions over and over again?
Please elaborate on what you consider to be punishement.
## Please elaborate the GOOD it would do the unwilling woman, her
educational opportunities, her health, her financial situation, etc. by
having an unwanted child.
Punishment is something that is to be used after a crime has been
committed
and it is supposed to fall on the criminal.
## Exactly! That's why abortion is now LEGAL. :-) She's not a criminal
and shouldn't be treated like one. Her welfare comes before the fetus.
You act as if women who have abortions committed some crime.
## So you admit abortion is NOT a crime - we're making progress.
Abortion in the case of rape helps the woman.
## Is the fetus of a rapist any less human than the fetus of some other
man?
Yes. It was produced by an predatorial man who exhibited unhuman
characteristics.
If he loved women he would not rape them without their consent.
## OK, so some fetuses are MORE or LESS human than others - gotcha!
Abortion in the case of infidelity is not just because the betrayal was
performed by the sex participant(s); hence, I would not allow an
abortion
because the one who betrays another does not qualify for remedy via
abortion
to escape their shame.
## See! So you want to PUNISH her one way or the other.
I am not punihsing her.
## When you take away someone's CHOICE where unwanted pregnancy is concerned
you punish her by making her suffer even more.
There is no such thing as an abortion that does not have some blame
associated with it.
## According to who? Accidents happen. BC fails.
Your reliance on the sexism that focuses only on women allows men who
committed the sin to escape punishment.
## Back to that? How about we force them to get vasectomies or castrate
them?
Your ignorant, diversionary tactic is reproachable and it is impolite and
it
is a disgrace to our society.
## Which tactics? You can't seem to handle the truth. What are YOU doing
to help all these teens and woman with unwanted pregnancies? What are you
doing to HELP all the unwanted children dumped on the States?
Is the fetus of
an illicit love affair any less human than the fetus of her legal
husband?
Did you fail to comprehend what I wrote earlier about I would NOT allow
abortion in such a case?
## But it's not up to YOU to punish the woman. What makes YOU think it is?
## Which sexist part?
Your reliance on sexist ignorance by focusing only on women.
## Shall we castrate the men? Force them to get vasectomies?
Where I suggest we castrate the men who impregnate
woman, then abandon them?
No, rebellious, offended wimp.
## What rebellious wimp? You mean men like you who want to PUNISH women
because there isn't one in your state that will even look at you? Seek
professional help for your emotional and mental illsues, lose weight, take a
good hot bath... and get off your PC - get out and find someone!
I'm past the age of getting pregnant. So
tell us - what are you doing NOW that helps unwilling, unhappy
pregnant
woman and unwanted children already born?
More than I want to, I can assure you of that.
## Such as........?
Remember the part where you said it is none of my business?
LOL!!!!!!
## LOL!!! So you admit you're doing NOTHING but wasting time on your
PC.... LOL!!! :-D
Why are you expecting me to have anything to do with their personal
afffairs
now?
## Why not since you do enough posting HERE on Usenet about woman's personal
affairs - yet you don't get off your big fat @$$ and do anything helpful or
useful for them or unwanted children.
--
CR........
More Biblical babble:
PR 26:4 Do not answer a fool. To do so
makes you foolish too.
But then...
PR 26:5 Answer a fool. If you don't he will
think himself wise.
Talk about contradictions.
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| User: "Pr0r3p" |
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| Title: Re: One-Sided Abortion |
15 Jul 2005 09:51:52 AM |
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Johnny wrote:
"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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## If you loved women and children so much you'd be married and
adopting
all those unwanted children in foster homes.
No, I wouldn't.
I would feel no need to adopt any child who is not an orphan or to take
it
from its mother and/or father.
## People who want their children don't give them up.
People don't give up their children when other people won't let them.
Once again, it all comes down to Johnny wanting to control what people
do.
I would feel no need to adopt some child that the government took away
from
its own parent(s).
## Why not one abandoned in a public place or trash can?
Would that be my child?
That would be my choice, you know?
Ahhh, now Johnny wants a choice, all while trying to remove that option
from women.
I could choose either to let it stay there or to take it in.
Heh, again, Johnny believes he's the only one who should have a
"choice".
I am male. Understand their is a big difference between men and women, which
you seem to think does not exist, and you also seem to think that men are
supposed to be like women.
So do you, which is why you ***** that women being able get an abortion
is "sexist".
Why would I want a child that was abandoned by its own mother in a nation
like the USA?
Because your agenda would force her to have the child. Now, deal with
the result of your hateful agenda.
Am I supposed to think that the government was issuing a hit on that child?
Think what you want, you've proven your babbling usually has nothing to
do with the subject at hand.
I hope Roe V Wade is overturned.
## So you can get off on every death you read and hear about?
Sure would beat being sad about those who die.
## So you admit you HATE women.
I admit that you are a deceived liar.
Johnny likes denying the truth...
## Disciplined how? Castrated?
According to just measure.
## And what is just measure?
It isn't what you think should be done.
Apparently, you think it's whatever the voices in your head say to you.
## Do you ever think about anything other than to punish women with
your
sick anti-choice agenda?
Every day. I do not adhere to the punish women perspective.
## Trying to force them to bear unwanted children is punishment.
How so?
Please elaborate on what you consider to be punishement.
Punishment is something that is to be used after a crime has been committed
and it is supposed to fall on the criminal.
LOL!!! So, a parent who puts their misbehaving child in the corner did
so because he committed a crime? You obviously have no idea what the
definition of punishment is, as evidenced by your stupid remark just
above.
You act as if women who have abortions committed some crime.
No, idiot, that would be you. You're the one who claims that women
should have to resort to backalley abortions and if they die from these
abortions have "gotten what they deserve".
What are you doing NOW that helps pregnant woman
and unwanted children?
Abortion in the case of rape helps the woman.
## Is the fetus of a rapist any less human than the fetus of some other
man?
Yes. It was produced by an predatorial man who exhibited unhuman
characteristics.
If he loved women he would not rape them without their consent.
Nor would he want to remove the woman's right to control her body.
Abortion in the case of infidelity is not just because the betrayal was
performed by the sex participant(s); hence, I would not allow an abortion
because the one who betrays another does not qualify for remedy via
abortion
to escape their shame.
## See! So you want to PUNISH her one way or the other.
I am not punihsing her.
There is no such thing as an abortion that does not have some blame
associated with it.
According to who, you? LOL!
Your reliance on the sexism
There Johnny goes with the ***** about sexism that was addressed
above. Apparently he forgot that men and women are different already.
that focuses only on women allows men who
committed the sin to escape punishment.
Your ignorant, diversionary tactic is reproachable and it is impolite and it
is a disgrace to our society.
100% on the irony meter.
Is the fetus of
an illicit love affair any less human than the fetus of her legal husband?
Did you fail to comprehend what I wrote earlier about I would NOT allow
abortion in such a case?
I guess you lied when you said, "I am not punihsing[sic] her."
## Which self-serving *****?
The sexist part.
## Which sexist part?
Your reliance on sexist ignorance by focusing only on women.
Oops, Johnny forgot that men and women are different, AGAIN.
Where I suggest we castrate the men who impregnate
woman, then abandon them?
No, rebellious, offended wimp.
Johnny's at the end of his rope - you can tell when he simply starts
his name calling and stops trying to defend his hatred.
I'm past the age of getting pregnant. So
tell us - what are you doing NOW that helps unwilling, unhappy pregnant
woman and unwanted children already born?
More than I want to, I can assure you of that.
## Such as........?
Remember the part where you said it is none of my business?
LOL!!!!!!
Why are you expecting me to have anything to do with their personal afffairs
now?
Run away, cowardly hypocrite.
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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| Title: Re: One-Sided Abortion |
15 Jul 2005 11:03:44 AM |
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"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Johnny wrote:
Remember the part where you said it is none of my business?
LOL!!!!!!
Why are you expecting me to have anything to do with their personal
afffairs
now?
Run away, cowardly hypocrite.
===========================
I have seldom seen such hatred like what this Johnny character portrays here
on this NG. It's a pathological hatred for woman who do not believe as he
does, feel as he does and do things he approves of. What a waste of a life.
He could be out there campaging for better birth control methods, being a
Big Brother and insisting on schools teaching sex-ed classes.......
--
CR.........
Subject: The (NON) Qualifications Of The Translators Of The NWT
Fred Franz: 2 Credit Hours Bible Greek, 21 Credit Hours Classical Greek,
University of Cincinnati, Dropped out junior year.
Nathan Knorr: None
Milton Henschel: None
Albert Schroeder: None
Karl Klein: None
George Gangas: None
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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16 Jul 2005 08:03:48 PM |
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"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Johnny wrote:
Remember the part where you said it is none of my business?
LOL!!!!!!
Why are you expecting me to have anything to do with their personal
afffairs now?
Run away, cowardly hypocrite.
I have seldom seen such hatred like what this Johnny character portrays here
on this NG. It's a pathological hatred for woman who do not believe as he
does, feel as he does and do things he approves of. What a waste of a life.
He could be out there campaging for better birth control methods, being a
Big Brother and insisting on schools teaching sex-ed classes.......
He's one round-the-bend loon, indeed. At least he's not another DJR (who is
the anti-abort loon from the early '90s who actually hitchhiked from Raleigh
to Houston to confront me at work, but didn't bother to notice the hours
during which I posted - so he showed up one late afternoon when I was just
getting up). Google "David J. Rasmussen" if you want to see a correlation
between anti-abortion activism and psychosis.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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17 Jul 2005 08:57:39 PM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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He's one round-the-bend loon, indeed. At least he's not another DJR (who
is
the anti-abort loon from the early '90s who actually hitchhiked from
Raleigh
to Houston to confront me at work, but didn't bother to notice the hours
during which I posted - so he showed up one late afternoon when I was just
getting up). Google "David J. Rasmussen" if you want to see a correlation
between anti-abortion activism and psychosis.
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Yes, I have been warned about dangerous lunatics on the Internet. It can be
a scary place.... :-(
--
CR........
The Watchtower, January 15, 1983, p. 22
"Avoid Independent Thinking . How is such
independent thinking manifested? A common way
is by questioning the counsel that is provided by
God's visible organization."
The WTS/GB wants you to become a mindless automaton.
Do not question what they say.
Do not think about what they say, just accept it.
Do not read the bible on your own, always use their "Aids."
Accept that the Governing Body believes itself equal to God.
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