Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:

"Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:

"Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:

"Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:

Jai Maharaj <usenet@mantra.com> reported:

Pitt experts say placental cells offer palatable alternative.

We don't NEED an "alternative," you pathetically-moronic loon.

However, there is nothing wrong with pursuing ADDITIONAL
avenues of medical advances.

Go get yourself a life. DAMN, but you Anti-Choice control-freaks
are all dumber than dead rocks! How you jerks can survive walking
in a rainstorm without drowning is amazing.

Aren't you the one who is always spouting about the hate of the
right?

I shine a very bright spotlight on it, yes.

Then you will be sure to shine a very bright spotlight on yourself
then.

I present FACTS. And that always indicts the bigots. Especially
since they have NO relevant facts available to draw upon in their
defense.

Please Craig, lets not go there.

ROTFL!!!!! You're probably HOPING that I won't. Since that's
about to prove **devastating** to you and your loathsome agenda
against millions of women.

You never have been able to defend yourself in this area.

Ah. Per that comment, one or both of these is/are true:

(1) You're as deluded and brainwashed as any cult lemming
who has ever lived.

and/or...

(2) LYING is your long suit.

You NEVER have been able to present proof of any "facts" that
you've had. Come back when you can prove your little "facts".

Facts are truths, and generally are self-evident. And just about EVERY
fact in the outline below is clearly self-evident -- and none of them are
"little." Unless you regard facts that utterly destroy the underpinnings
of your hateful and bigoted agenda to be "little."

A person would have to be one of the most abjectly-ignorant people on
earth in order to say that ANY proof is needed that sunrises occur on the
eastern horizon. The facts in the outline below totally destroy the
sociopathic agenda of the Anti-Choicers. And *your* thinking that any-
thing as OBVIOUS as those need to be proved, is CONCRETE PROOF
of **this**: You, and any other Anti-Choicer dumb enough to say that,
are among the most IGNORANT people on the face of the earth.

(No surprise, though. Ignorance and adherence to control-freakish
and sociopathic agendas of the RRR cult GO together.)

ANALYZING ABORTION-ON-REQUEST* in the USA
*(Abortion Rights as they have existed since 1-22-73)

Abortion terminates entities (oz/e/offs: zygotes, embryoes &
fetuses, up until the 7th month of gestation) which have ALL
of these characteristics in common with sperm and ova:

-- Human
-- Unique
-- As a stage of development, indispensable to future birth
-- Have NEVER experienced conscious awareness
-- Alive

...which makes it hypocritical when abortion opponents
try to defend z/e/fs but NOT sperm and ova.

And the Bible, which is the primary moral authority for the
majority of Americans:

-- In NO way condemns abortion
-- Doesn't even MENTION abortion
-- By Jesus' day, abortion had been around for 1,000 yrs.
-- Contains NO defenses of s/o/z/e/fs
-- Reserves ALL of its protection for already-BORN people
-- That the Bible regards personhood to begin at BIRTH is
made clear by it's immense emphasis on the importance
of BIRTH order, and BIRTHrights.
-- In certain cases, condemned BABIES to horrible deaths
-- Never indicates that there is anything "special" about
fertilization
-- Thus making z/e/f and sperm & ova of EQUAL worth

Abortion-on-request enables women to:

-- Put their lives back on track immediately
-- Restore their well-being to pre-unplanned pregnancy levels
-- Vast majority of women are happy with this decision
-- Most women have no regrets
-- Restore their full range of future opportunities
-- Avoid physical difficulties of a 9-month pregnancy
-- Especially important for young girls, ~12-16
-- Statistically 6-10 times safer than carrying-to-term
-- Avoid the trauma of adopting-out, and wondering later
-- Avoid possibility of changing mind about adopting-out
-- Reduce likelihood of long-term economic deprivation
-- Avoid bringing child into less-loving home
-- Avoid bringing child into unstable environment
-- Wait until timing is better before having children
-- Who then are MORE likely to be loved
-- Who then are MORE likely to be in stable home
-- And thus are LESS like to have troubled childhoods
-- And therefore more likely NOT to become criminals
-- And thus are MORE likely to become successful

Legal abortion-on-request:

-- Is exponentially safer than illegal abortions
-- Thus saving the lives of hundreds or thousands of women/yr.
-- Has been available throughout the USA since early 1973
-- Between 1973 and 2000, 30 million women have had them
-- Between 1973 and 2000, 40 million abortions have been done

Other related facts include:

-- MOST women who have abortions go on to HAVE kids later,
when the timing is better
-- Those children would NOT have been born if the abortions
had not taken place earlier, because the same sperm and
ova would not have matched up.
-- Those "2nd-round" kids STARTED reaching age 13 in
significant numbers by 1988. By the early 1990s, millions
of those "2nd-round" kids were in their mid-teens by the
early 1990s.
-- Mid-teens is the highest risk age for crime, and this
continues into the early 20s.
-- As pointed out above, wanted and loved children are
LESS prone to criminal behavior.
-- By 1995, millions of "2nd-round kids" were entering the
workforce. Perhaps a million-plus MORE have entered it
every year SINCE. By 2000, the oldest ones had reached
the age where they could be getting quite successful.
-- Since the early 1990s, the rate of violent crime in the USA
has declined dramatically, and by 2000 was at 40-year
lows in many categories.
-- The decade of the 1990s, and the 21st century to date,
in the USA, has been the most economically-dynamic
period of time for any nation in the entire history of the
world.

Although the exact figures may be impossible to derive, the
probability that abortion-on-request has SIGNIFICANTLY benefitted
all of America's society in terms of the crime rate and the economy
is QUITE strong, despite the temporary anomaly caused by the attack
on Sept. 11, 2001. And a strong U.S. economy benefits the entire
world.

I see you are back to your old tricks of claiming many things without
backing any of them up.

This conversation is over...

...unless I see you proving everything that you have said
with documentation from credible resources.