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"james g. keegan jr." |
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19 Nov 2004 05:46:41 AM |
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"Osprey" reminder #2 |
osprey .... just a reminder that your lie about paul anderson as detailed
in the post below remains open. you need to withdraw it and apologize,
right?
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From: "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com>
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Date: 18 Nov 2004 08:35:02 GMT
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in news:t7Odne9-Jb2ggwHcRVn-
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"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
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Was there a purpose to that crap? How many times must I state that I
do not advocate killing anything.
That is a lie Paul.
your claim is a lie.
You advocate women getting abortions.
you are lying again.
post evidence that paul has ever advocated even one women having an
abortion.
but you won't. you'll run away from yet another of your lies.
Abortions kill.
so does removing a cancer, washing your face, and any number of other
things.
Your lying isn't fooling anyone
look in a mirror, coward.
now run away from your lie.
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| User: "Sports Pants" |
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| Title: Re: "Osprey" reminder #2 |
19 Nov 2004 12:33:50 PM |
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While we're at it... I believe you forgot to apologize for this as well!
(You avoided addressing it by saying something I was "defending" Osprey-
I'm not even sure anymore that pro-choicers are consciously *aware* of
their evasions-- I mean, the pro-choice argument *starts* with the premise
that "You just want to control women's bodies!" is an appropriate response
to "I believe abortion is murder.") Anyway, people who accuse others of
lying should be held to their own standards of truth, dontcha think?
From: (Tripping in Tempur Fields)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.abortion
Subject: Re: Do we live in a low abortion culture?
Organization: no experts were consulted in the making of this post
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 04:40:43 GMT
In article <Xns9533E6820F42Fkeegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4>, "james g.
keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
(Tripping in Tempur Fields) wrote in
news:tagutcow-2707042210250001@user-0c992qm.cable.mindspring.com:
Well the average woman in the USSR had an average of six abortions in
her lifetime. Boy howdy, those women sure were liberated!
do you apologize for lying when someone asks you to document a false claim
like the one you made here?
Supposing I could produce some online references, I would imagine it
would be you who would have to apologize for saying I was lying.
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http://www.libertarian.co.uk/lapubs/econn/econn011.pdf
Abortion is the main method of birth control in the Soviet
Union, with a working woman having an average of eight abortions
in a life time. The main reason for this is that there is no other
widely available form of contraception and a Soviet family has to
have two incomes. The woman is therefore forced to work by
economic circumstances.
intranet.westminster.org.uk/publications/elizabethan/magazine/2001/p23.htm
"In some countries, abortion is the most popular form of contraception;
in the former USSR, for example, the average woman has 6 to 7 abortions in
her lifetime, the mental and physical implications of which are
horrifying."
http://www.icddrb.org/pub/publication.jsp?classificationID=30&pubID=301
"In the more eastern countries of Western Europe, such as Romania and
Bulgaria, the effective practice of withdrawal had never been widespread,
and abortion played the dominant role. In the former USSR-the first
country to permit legal abortion (in 1920)-up to 3 of 4 pregnancies were
being aborted, at least in Moscow."
http://www.cbctrust.com/abortion.html
Abortion has traditionally been the primary method of birth control in the
Soviet Union because of a lack of contraceptive devices and information,
and because of the traditional orientation of the Soviet health service
system towards termination, not prevention, of pregnancy. Officially, 55%
of known pregnancies are terminated by abortion, but the true rate is
probably higher.90 The level of induced abortion is higher in the former
USSR than in any other country in the world.91 It is not uncommon for a
Soviet woman to have four or five abortions and a few women to have as
many as twenty.
http://www.lib.utah.edu/epubs/undergrad/vol7/kotlyar.html
"Olga Lipovskaya, 35 years old, married three times, two children, and
seven abortions: "You stand in line before the door of the operating room,
seven or eight of you, waiting to be taken in. The clinic's staff is too
busy to do anything but operate, so as each woman who's finished staggers
out you take turns getting out of line for a few minutes, just to help her
get to the resting room down the hall. Then it's your turn, and you go
into a hall splattered with blood where two doctors are aborting seven or
eight women at the same time; they're usually very rough and rude,
shouting at you about keeping your legs wide open...if you're lucky they
give you a little sedative, mostly Valium. Then it's your turn to stagger
out to the resting room, where you're not allowed to spend more than two
hours because the production line, you see, is always very busy." Olga
estimates that she will have about fourteen abortions in total, which she
guesses to be the national average. She knows women who have had
twenty-five."
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Was I lying because the average Soviet woman had *more* than six
abortions? In any case, I hope you're able to defend your statement in
less time than it took to accuse *me* of lying.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: "Osprey" reminder #2 |
19 Nov 2004 03:39:10 PM |
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(Sports Pants) wrote in
news:tagutcow-1811040613060001@user-0c992qm.cable.mindspring.com:
While we're at it... I believe you forgot to apologize for this as
well!
nothing to apologize for. your arguments were debunked ages ago. nice try
though. you're fitting right in defending the abortion newsgroups most
prolific liar.
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| User: "Sports Pants" |
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| Title: Re: "Osprey" reminder #2 |
19 Nov 2004 04:26:45 PM |
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In article <Xns95A6A96365115keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4>, "james g.
keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
tagutcow@earthlink.net (Sports Pants) wrote in
news:tagutcow-1811040613060001@user-0c992qm.cable.mindspring.com:
While we're at it... I believe you forgot to apologize for this as
well!
nothing to apologize for. your arguments were debunked ages ago. nice try
though. you're fitting right in defending the abortion newsgroups most
prolific liar.
What the ***** are you talking about??? "My arguments"!?! What are they...
the ones about abortions in the USSR? And how on earth am I defending
Osprey? I haven't even used his name until now! And yet you *continue* to
evade... you refused to admit you were wrong then, and you're refusing to
admit you were wrong now, you're just muddying the waters and making vague
accusations... and yet you were clearly wrong, as is clear to see in what
I quoted. This has nothing to do with "my arguments"- whatever they may
be- and everything to do with owning up to *your* own mistakes.
Why do you expect an apology from Osprey if you aren't willing to give
one to me. (And seriously, dude, I don't think that apology is coming.)
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: "Osprey" reminder #2 |
19 Nov 2004 04:32:27 PM |
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"Sports Pants" <tagutcow@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:tagutcow-1811041006020001@user-0c992qm.cable.mindspring.com...
In article <Xns95A6A96365115keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4>, "james g.
keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
tagutcow@earthlink.net (Sports Pants) wrote in
news:tagutcow-1811040613060001@user-0c992qm.cable.mindspring.com:
While we're at it... I believe you forgot to apologize for this as
well!
nothing to apologize for. your arguments were debunked ages ago. nice try
though. you're fitting right in defending the abortion newsgroups most
prolific liar.
What the ***** are you talking about??? "My arguments"!?! What are they...
the ones about abortions in the USSR? And how on earth am I defending
Osprey?
He is only showing his obsession, I wouldn't even worry about his ramblings.
The man
has been deluded since I have known him in here, occasionally he just
rambles nonsense
thinking people are actually paying attention to him. No one is paying him
any attention any
longer, he is desperate.
I haven't even used his name until now! And yet you *continue* to
evade...
That is his MO
you refused to admit you were wrong then,
He NEVER could nor will admit when he is wrong.
and you're refusing to
admit you were wrong now, you're just muddying the waters and making vague
accusations... and yet you were clearly wrong, as is clear to see in what
I quoted. This has nothing to do with "my arguments"- whatever they may
be- and everything to do with owning up to *your* own mistakes.
Why do you expect an apology from Osprey if you aren't willing to give
one to me. (And seriously, dude, I don't think that apology is coming.)
Desperation, obsession, mental illness...there are many theories as to
what his problem is. But one thing is a fact, he has a problem.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: "Osprey" reminder #2 |
19 Nov 2004 05:28:48 PM |
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(Sports Pants) wrote in news:tagutcow-1811041006020001
@user-0c992qm.cable.mindspring.com:
In article <Xns95A6A96365115keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4>, "james g.
keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
(Sports Pants) wrote in
news:tagutcow-1811040613060001@user-0c992qm.cable.mindspring.com:
While we're at it... I believe you forgot to apologize for this as
well!
nothing to apologize for. your arguments were debunked ages ago. nice try
though. you're fitting right in defending the abortion newsgroups most
prolific liar.
What the ***** are you talking about???
pretending ignorance is so cute on you.
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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| Title: Re: "Osprey" reminder #2 |
19 Nov 2004 02:02:59 PM |
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Sports Pants wrote:
I'm not even sure anymore that pro-choicers are consciously *aware* of
their evasions-- I mean, the pro-choice argument *starts* with the premise
that "You just want to control women's bodies!" is an appropriate response
to "I believe abortion is murder."
The correct reply would be "you believe wrong"
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