Science > Abortion > Overturn Roe Vs Wade The Killing (abortion) of pre born & partially born
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13 Nov 2004 04:22:42 PM |
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Overturn Roe Vs Wade The Killing (abortion) of pre born & partially born |
The killing of the unborn and partially born baby should never
Have been allowed in the Constitution. It's been about 30 years
Since this gruesome, cruel practice of killing the most defenseless
And helpless of the humanrace.
Blacks were enslaved in our country more than 200 years,
Lets don't let our pre-born and partially born be killed
(aborted) any longer.
Just as our courts early on sold out Blacks to slavery, our courts
Have sold out to the youngest of the human race, to those in most need
of constitutional protection. Blacks were apparently vulnerable
during that time, and the pre-born and Partially born are the most
vulnerable today.
Just as Blacks were brought over in shackles and could not defend
themselves, the pre-born are in the mothers womb (the baby's home
before birth) and cannot defend themselves.
Perhaps in order to outlaw the killing of our unborn and partially
Born babies, we could "trade" off something. Our children's lives for
??? , or just outlaw it all together.
Protecting the unborn or partially born is not a religious way of
thinking, it has to do with being human.
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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| Title: Re: Overturn Roe Vs Wade The Killing (abortion) of pre born & partially born |
13 Nov 2004 06:24:04 PM |
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"jsm" <jsm542@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b971a682.0411131422.78c98c6d@posting.google.com...
The killing of the unborn and partially born baby should never
Have been allowed in the Constitution. It's been about 30 years
Since this gruesome, cruel practice of killing the most defenseless
And helpless of the humanrace.
Blacks were enslaved in our country more than 200 years,
Lets don't let our pre-born and partially born be killed
(aborted) any longer.
Just as our courts early on sold out Blacks to slavery, our courts
Have sold out to the youngest of the human race, to those in most need
of constitutional protection. Blacks were apparently vulnerable
during that time, and the pre-born and Partially born are the most
vulnerable today.
Just as Blacks were brought over in shackles and could not defend
themselves, the pre-born are in the mothers womb (the baby's home
before birth) and cannot defend themselves.
Perhaps in order to outlaw the killing of our unborn and partially
Born babies, we could "trade" off something. Our children's lives for
??? , or just outlaw it all together.
Protecting the unborn or partially born is not a religious way of
thinking, it has to do with being human.
Wow, not a word about the pregnant woman ANYWHERE. Not even a whisper about
the thousands already born who have no family. Not even a hint of the
millions abused or in poverty. Good to know how caring you really are.
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| User: "bam" |
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14 Nov 2004 09:32:52 AM |
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"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twoFILTER@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"jsm" <jsm542@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The killing of the unborn and partially born baby should never
Have been allowed in the Constitution. It's been about 30 years
Since this gruesome, cruel practice of killing the most defenseless
And helpless of the humanrace.
Blacks were enslaved in our country more than 200 years,
Lets don't let our pre-born and partially born be killed
(aborted) any longer.
Just as our courts early on sold out Blacks to slavery, our courts
Have sold out to the youngest of the human race, to those in most need
of constitutional protection. Blacks were apparently vulnerable
during that time, and the pre-born and Partially born are the most
vulnerable today.
Just as Blacks were brought over in shackles and could not defend
themselves, the pre-born are in the mothers womb (the baby's home
before birth) and cannot defend themselves.
Perhaps in order to outlaw the killing of our unborn and partially
Born babies, we could "trade" off something. Our children's lives for
??? , or just outlaw it all together.
Protecting the unborn or partially born is not a religious way of
thinking, it has to do with being human.
Wow, not a word about the pregnant woman ANYWHERE. Not even a whisper
about the thousands already born who have no family. Not even a hint of
the millions abused or in poverty. Good to know how caring you really are.
YOu might as well say that we should just tommygun all the poor people who
will probably starve anyway.
Abortion is killing and killing is wrong - more wrong than being "unwanted",
or taking the consequences of an unwanted pregnancy. (whatever that is)
BAM
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: Overturn Roe Vs Wade The Killing (abortion) of pre born & partially born |
14 Nov 2004 07:07:13 PM |
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> writes:
"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twoFILTER@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2vnmt6F2mskaeU1@uni-berlin.de...
"jsm" <jsm542@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b971a682.0411131422.78c98c6d@posting.google.com...
The killing of the unborn and partially born baby should never
Have been allowed in the Constitution. It's been about 30 years
Since this gruesome, cruel practice of killing the most defenseless
And helpless of the humanrace.
Blacks were enslaved in our country more than 200 years,
Lets don't let our pre-born and partially born be killed
(aborted) any longer.
Just as our courts early on sold out Blacks to slavery, our courts
Have sold out to the youngest of the human race, to those in most need
of constitutional protection. Blacks were apparently vulnerable
during that time, and the pre-born and Partially born are the most
vulnerable today.
Just as Blacks were brought over in shackles and could not defend
themselves, the pre-born are in the mothers womb (the baby's home
before birth) and cannot defend themselves.
Perhaps in order to outlaw the killing of our unborn and partially
Born babies, we could "trade" off something. Our children's lives for
??? , or just outlaw it all together.
Protecting the unborn or partially born is not a religious way of
thinking, it has to do with being human.
Wow, not a word about the pregnant woman ANYWHERE. Not even a whisper
about the thousands already born who have no family. Not even a hint of
the millions abused or in poverty. Good to know how caring you really are.
YOu might as well say that we should just tommygun all the poor people who
will probably starve anyway.
....except for the little detail you're so blissfully ignorant of: the poor
people have been born, so they're entitled to the protections afforded by the
law.
Abortion is killing and killing is wrong - more wrong than being "unwanted",
or taking the consequences of an unwanted pregnancy. (whatever that is)
You dismiss the pregnant woman's concerns, but demand your wishes be obeyed?
Good thing no one's obliged to give you so much as the time of day, adn women
will continue to make their own choices without bothering to listen to your
self-righteous whining. Igf you don't like abortion, don't have one -- and you
*will* do the rest of us the courtesy of drawing our own conclusions about the
subject.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "bam" |
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14 Nov 2004 08:15:37 PM |
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"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote
YOu might as well say that we should just tommygun all the poor people who
will probably starve anyway.
...except for the little detail you're so blissfully ignorant of: the
poor
people have been born, so they're entitled to the protections afforded by
the
law.
You stupid jackass. You mean they're only entitled to protection *because*
of the law? Is the law your god?
Abortion is killing and killing is wrong - more wrong than being
"unwanted",
or taking the consequences of an unwanted pregnancy. (whatever that is)
You dismiss the pregnant woman's concerns,
No. The woman dismissed her own concerns when she was more concerned with
having sex.
but demand your wishes be obeyed?
Yup.
Good thing no one's obliged to give you so much as the time of day, adn
women
will continue to make their own choices without bothering to listen to
your
self-righteous whining. Igf you don't like abortion, don't have one -- and
you
*will* do the rest of us the courtesy of drawing our own conclusions about
the
subject.
See ya on the next battlefield.
BAM
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: Overturn Roe Vs Wade The Killing (abortion) of pre born & partially born |
14 Nov 2004 10:59:55 PM |
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote
YOu might as well say that we should just tommygun all the poor people who
will probably starve anyway.
...except for the little detail you're so blissfully ignorant of: the poor
people have been born, so they're entitled to the protections afforded by
the law.
You stupid jackass. You mean they're only entitled to protection *because*
of the law? Is the law your god?
Once you're born, you're afforded the rights stated in the law. That's only
been the case for most of human history.
Abortion is killing and killing is wrong - more wrong than being
"unwanted",
or taking the consequences of an unwanted pregnancy. (whatever that is)
You dismiss the pregnant woman's concerns,
No. The woman dismissed her own concerns when she was more concerned with
having sex.
You're still an idiot, son. The woman consented to having sex. You don't get
to assume for her that she also consents to being pregnant. That's her
choice, and you're not invited.
but demand your wishes be obeyed?
Yup.
You'll get the respect you deserve, then. (With any luck, she won't have to
shoot you.)
Good thing no one's obliged to give you so much as the time of day, adn
women will continue to make their own choices without bothering to listen
to your self-righteous whining. If you don't like abortion, don't have one
-- and you *will* do the rest of us the courtesy of drawing our own
conclusions about the subject.
See ya on the next battlefield.
You won't. You're willfully blind.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "bam" |
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| Title: Re: Overturn Roe Vs Wade The Killing (abortion) of pre born & partially born |
14 Nov 2004 11:41:25 PM |
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"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk7jonk8qc.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote
YOu might as well say that we should just tommygun all the poor people
who
will probably starve anyway.
...except for the little detail you're so blissfully ignorant of: the
poor
people have been born, so they're entitled to the protections afforded
by
the law.
You stupid jackass. You mean they're only entitled to protection *because*
of the law? Is the law your god?
Once you're born, you're afforded the rights stated in the law. That's
only
been the case for most of human history.
Abortion is killing and killing is wrong - more wrong than being
"unwanted",
or taking the consequences of an unwanted pregnancy. (whatever that is)
You dismiss the pregnant woman's concerns,
No. The woman dismissed her own concerns when she was more concerned with
having sex.
You're still an idiot, son. The woman consented to having sex. You don't
get
to assume for her that she also consents to being pregnant. That's her
choice, and you're not invited.
but demand your wishes be obeyed?
Yup.
You'll get the respect you deserve, then. (With any luck, she won't have
to
shoot you.)
Good thing no one's obliged to give you so much as the time of day, adn
women will continue to make their own choices without bothering to
listen
to your self-righteous whining. If you don't like abortion, don't have
one
-- and you *will* do the rest of us the courtesy of drawing our own
conclusions about the subject.
See ya on the next battlefield.
You won't. You're willfully blind.
Then see ya on judgement day.
BAM
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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14 Nov 2004 11:56:41 PM |
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk7jonk8qc.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote
YOu might as well say that we should just tommygun all the poor people
who
will probably starve anyway.
...except for the little detail you're so blissfully ignorant of: the
poor people have been born, so they're entitled to the protections
afforded by the law.
You stupid jackass. You mean they're only entitled to protection *because*
of the law? Is the law your god?
Once you're born, you're afforded the rights stated in the law. That's
only been the case for most of human history.
Abortion is killing and killing is wrong - more wrong than being
"unwanted", or taking the consequences of an unwanted
pregnancy. (whatever that is)
You dismiss the pregnant woman's concerns,
No. The woman dismissed her own concerns when she was more concerned with
having sex.
You're still an idiot, son. The woman consented to having sex. You don't
get to assume for her that she also consents to being pregnant. That's her
choice, and you're not invited.
but demand your wishes be obeyed?
Yup.
You'll get the respect you deserve, then. (With any luck, she won't have
to shoot you.)
Good thing no one's obliged to give you so much as the time of day, adn
women will continue to make their own choices without bothering to listen
to your self-righteous whining. If you don't like abortion, don't have
one -- and you *will* do the rest of us the courtesy of drawing our own
conclusions about the subject.
See ya on the next battlefield.
You won't. You're willfully blind.
Then see ya on judgement day.
Sorry, but I'm not interested in your fantasy.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "bam" |
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15 Nov 2004 11:56:24 AM |
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"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote
Sorry, but I'm not interested in your fantasy.
Atheist murderer. Joe Stalin one of your heroes?
BAM
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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15 Nov 2004 12:36:08 PM |
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote
Sorry, but I'm not interested in your fantasy.
Atheist murderer. Joe Stalin one of your heroes?
Call the cops if you're so sure, Mr. Trailer Trash. 713 308-8000.
(If there's any justice at all, Dzhugashvili and Hitler have been getting
slow-roasted for a half-century and change by now...and my religion is my
business. You're not invited or allowed.)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "jsm" |
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14 Nov 2004 06:51:52 PM |
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"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twoFILTER@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2vnmt6F2mskaeU1@uni-berlin.de>...
"jsm" <jsm542@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b971a682.0411131422.78c98c6d@posting.google.com...
The killing of the unborn and partially born baby should never
Have been allowed in the Constitution. It's been about 30 years
Since this gruesome, cruel practice of killing the most defenseless
And helpless of the humanrace.
Blacks were enslaved in our country more than 200 years,
Lets don't let our pre-born and partially born be killed
(aborted) any longer.
Just as our courts early on sold out Blacks to slavery, our courts
Have sold out to the youngest of the human race, to those in most need
of constitutional protection. Blacks were apparently vulnerable
during that time, and the pre-born and Partially born are the most
vulnerable today.
Just as Blacks were brought over in shackles and could not defend
themselves, the pre-born are in the mothers womb (the baby's home
before birth) and cannot defend themselves.
Perhaps in order to outlaw the killing of our unborn and partially
Born babies, we could "trade" off something. Our children's lives for
??? , or just outlaw it all together.
Protecting the unborn or partially born is not a religious way of
thinking, it has to do with being human.
Wow, not a word about the pregnant woman ANYWHERE.
It is more harmful to the pregnant woman to kill her baby than it
would be for her to give her baby up for adoption.
Not even a whisper about
the thousands already born who have no family. Not even a hint of the
millions abused or in poverty. Good to know how caring you really are.
I have lived in poverty many times during my life and am thankful
someone like you didn't "choose" to kill me because of poverty, etc.
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| User: "Bethe Blasienz" |
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| Title: Re: Overturn Roe Vs Wade The Killing (abortion) of pre born & partially born |
14 Nov 2004 07:37:52 PM |
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From: (jsm)
It is more harmful to the pregnant woman to kill her baby than it
would be for her to give her baby up for adoption.
It is more harmful for many of us women out there to attempt to carry to
term.............we would lose our own lives in the process............is this
what you're advocating?
Bethe Blasienz
Bryan, Texas USA
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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17 Nov 2004 10:05:24 AM |
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jsm wrote:
"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twoFILTER@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2vnmt6F2mskaeU1@uni-berlin.de>...
"jsm" <jsm542@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b971a682.0411131422.78c98c6d@posting.google.com...
The killing of the unborn and partially born baby should never
Have been allowed in the Constitution. It's been about 30 years
Since this gruesome, cruel practice of killing the most defenseless
And helpless of the humanrace.
Blacks were enslaved in our country more than 200 years,
Lets don't let our pre-born and partially born be killed
(aborted) any longer.
Just as our courts early on sold out Blacks to slavery, our courts
Have sold out to the youngest of the human race, to those in most need
of constitutional protection. Blacks were apparently vulnerable
during that time, and the pre-born and Partially born are the most
vulnerable today.
Just as Blacks were brought over in shackles and could not defend
themselves, the pre-born are in the mothers womb (the baby's home
before birth) and cannot defend themselves.
Perhaps in order to outlaw the killing of our unborn and partially
Born babies, we could "trade" off something. Our children's lives for
??? , or just outlaw it all together.
Protecting the unborn or partially born is not a religious way of
thinking, it has to do with being human.
Wow, not a word about the pregnant woman ANYWHERE.
It is more harmful to the pregnant woman to kill her baby than it
would be for her to give her baby up for adoption.
No, it is not, and yes, I speak from personal exparience both ways.
Not even a whisper about
the thousands already born who have no family. Not even a hint of the
millions abused or in poverty. Good to know how caring you really are.
I have lived in poverty many times during my life
Were you pregnant at the time?
and am thankful
someone like you didn't "choose" to kill me because of poverty, etc.
Something to think about:
http://www.bullyonline.org/stress/suicide.htm
In inner city areas, over 43% of children have considered suicide and
one in six children under the age of 11 have attempted suicide. Common
causes cited include bullying, abuse, poverty, homelessness, and alcohol
abuse.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/sui_nati.htm
Canada's overall suicide rate is typically about 14 per 100,000 people;
the U.S. rate is consistently slightly lower, at about 12 per 100,000. 1
These values are heavily influenced by the economy: they drop as
economic conditions improve, and rise during recessions.
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| User: "LibForBush" |
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| Title: Re: Overturn Roe Vs Wade The Killing (abortion) of pre born & partiallyborn |
17 Nov 2004 10:50:19 AM |
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Abortion is a moral choice. You either believe the unborn baby/fetus
is a living human or you don't. Since there is no definitive
scientific evidence to prove this either way, people should able to
decide their morality for themselves.
Personally, I believe abortion is murder and then conception is the
beginning of human life. But I am pro-choice because I don't believe
I should inflict my moral choice on others.
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| User: "•R.L.Measures" |
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17 Nov 2004 02:21:20 PM |
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In article <cnfvec$68q@library1.airnews.net>, LibForBush
<LibForBush@yahooSPAM.com> wrote:
Abortion is a moral choice. You either believe the unborn baby/fetus
is a living human or you don't. Since there is no definitive
scientific evidence to prove this either way, people should able to
decide their morality for themselves.
Personally, I believe abortion is murder and then conception is the
beginning of human life. But I am pro-choice because I don't believe
I should inflict my moral choice on others.
** But you can't possibly earn brownie points with God unless you support
taking away choice.
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€ R.L.Measures, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
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| User: "Walter Small" |
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17 Nov 2004 02:34:12 PM |
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".R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
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In article <cnfvec$68q@library1.airnews.net>, LibForBush
<LibForBush@yahooSPAM.com> wrote:
Abortion is a moral choice. You either believe the unborn baby/fetus
is a living human or you don't. Since there is no definitive
scientific evidence to prove this either way, people should able to
decide their morality for themselves.
Personally, I believe abortion is murder and then conception is the
beginning of human life. But I am pro-choice because I don't believe
I should inflict my moral choice on others.
** But you can't possibly earn brownie points with God unless you support
taking away choice.
I don't think you can earn any points with God if you are fighting to save
every American embryo, but have no problem with killing some 46,000 living,
breathing, crying Iraqi children.
Walter
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| User: "•R.L.Measures" |
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17 Nov 2004 05:12:19 PM |
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In article <8BOmd.2186$Qh3.1646@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>, "Walter
Small" <wsmall@small.net> wrote:
".R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
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In article <cnfvec$68q@library1.airnews.net>, LibForBush
<LibForBush@yahooSPAM.com> wrote:
Abortion is a moral choice. You either believe the unborn baby/fetus
is a living human or you don't. Since there is no definitive
scientific evidence to prove this either way, people should able to
decide their morality for themselves.
Personally, I believe abortion is murder and then conception is the
beginning of human life. But I am pro-choice because I don't believe
I should inflict my moral choice on others.
** But you can't possibly earn brownie points with God unless you support
taking away choice.
I don't think you can earn any points with God if you are fighting to save
every American embryo, but have no problem with killing some 46,000 living,
breathing, crying Iraqi children.
** When did this happen, Walter?
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| User: "Eyeball Kid" |
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14 Nov 2004 12:43:13 PM |
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In article <2vnmt6F2mskaeU1@uni-berlin.de>, --sexkitten--
<ladyhawk_twoFILTER@hotmail.com> wrote:
"jsm" <jsm542@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b971a682.0411131422.78c98c6d@posting.google.com...
The killing of the unborn and partially born baby should never
Have been allowed in the Constitution. It's been about 30 years
Since this gruesome, cruel practice of killing the most defenseless
And helpless of the humanrace.
Blacks were enslaved in our country more than 200 years,
Lets don't let our pre-born and partially born be killed
(aborted) any longer.
Just as our courts early on sold out Blacks to slavery, our courts
Have sold out to the youngest of the human race, to those in most need
of constitutional protection. Blacks were apparently vulnerable
during that time, and the pre-born and Partially born are the most
vulnerable today.
Just as Blacks were brought over in shackles and could not defend
themselves, the pre-born are in the mothers womb (the baby's home
before birth) and cannot defend themselves.
Perhaps in order to outlaw the killing of our unborn and partially
Born babies, we could "trade" off something. Our children's lives for
??? , or just outlaw it all together.
Protecting the unborn or partially born is not a religious way of
thinking, it has to do with being human.
Wow, not a word about the pregnant woman ANYWHERE. Not even a whisper about
the thousands already born who have no family. Not even a hint of the
millions abused or in poverty. Good to know how caring you really are.
....not to mention the 100k Iraqis killed during the present Christian
Crusade. Killing for God is just fine, as long as the delusion (My God
tells me that your God is evil.) is shared by more than a dozen people.
E. K.
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: Overturn Roe Vs Wade The Killing (abortion) of pre born & partially born |
13 Nov 2004 07:04:51 PM |
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(jsm) writes:
The killing of the unborn and partially born baby should never
Have been allowed in the Constitution. It's been about 30 years
Since this gruesome, cruel practice of killing the most defenseless
And helpless of the humanrace.
Blacks were enslaved in our country more than 200 years,
Lets don't let our pre-born and partially born be killed
(aborted) any longer.
Just as our courts early on sold out Blacks to slavery, our courts
Have sold out to the youngest of the human race, to those in most need
of constitutional protection. Blacks were apparently vulnerable
during that time, and the pre-born and Partially born are the most
vulnerable today.
Just as Blacks were brought over in shackles and could not defend
themselves, the pre-born are in the mothers womb (the baby's home
before birth) and cannot defend themselves.
Perhaps in order to outlaw the killing of our unborn and partially
Born babies, we could "trade" off something. Our children's lives for
??? , or just outlaw it all together.
Protecting the unborn or partially born is not a religious way of
thinking, it has to do with being human.
....never mind you don't give a good ***** about the hundreds of thousands of
children who *are* already born that no one wants to adopt -- hey, let's force
women to crank out even more. Who cares what crap the kids have to put up
with, as long as you and your circle-jerk "Christians" can get your way?
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "bam" |
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| Title: Re: Overturn Roe Vs Wade The Killing (abortion) of pre born & partially born |
14 Nov 2004 09:34:21 AM |
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"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkvfc99r64.fsf@fnord.io.com...
jsm542@yahoo.com (jsm) writes:
The killing of the unborn and partially born baby should never
Have been allowed in the Constitution. It's been about 30 years
Since this gruesome, cruel practice of killing the most defenseless
And helpless of the humanrace.
Blacks were enslaved in our country more than 200 years,
Lets don't let our pre-born and partially born be killed
(aborted) any longer.
Just as our courts early on sold out Blacks to slavery, our courts
Have sold out to the youngest of the human race, to those in most need
of constitutional protection. Blacks were apparently vulnerable
during that time, and the pre-born and Partially born are the most
vulnerable today.
Just as Blacks were brought over in shackles and could not defend
themselves, the pre-born are in the mothers womb (the baby's home
before birth) and cannot defend themselves.
Perhaps in order to outlaw the killing of our unborn and partially
Born babies, we could "trade" off something. Our children's lives for
??? , or just outlaw it all together.
Protecting the unborn or partially born is not a religious way of
thinking, it has to do with being human.
...never mind you don't give a good ***** about the hundreds of
thousands of
children who *are* already born that no one wants to adopt -- hey, let's
force
women to crank out even more. Who cares what crap the kids have to put up
with, as long as you and your circle-jerk "Christians" can get your way?
And you care so little, you'll kill them right off the bat.
BAM
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: Overturn Roe Vs Wade The Killing (abortion) of pre born & partially born |
14 Nov 2004 07:12:26 PM |
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkvfc99r64.fsf@fnord.io.com...
jsm542@yahoo.com (jsm) writes:
The killing of the unborn and partially born baby should never
Have been allowed in the Constitution. It's been about 30 years
Since this gruesome, cruel practice of killing the most defenseless
And helpless of the humanrace.
Blacks were enslaved in our country more than 200 years,
Lets don't let our pre-born and partially born be killed
(aborted) any longer.
Just as our courts early on sold out Blacks to slavery, our courts
Have sold out to the youngest of the human race, to those in most need
of constitutional protection. Blacks were apparently vulnerable
during that time, and the pre-born and Partially born are the most
vulnerable today.
Just as Blacks were brought over in shackles and could not defend
themselves, the pre-born are in the mothers womb (the baby's home
before birth) and cannot defend themselves.
Perhaps in order to outlaw the killing of our unborn and partially
Born babies, we could "trade" off something. Our children's lives for
??? , or just outlaw it all together.
Protecting the unborn or partially born is not a religious way of
thinking, it has to do with being human.
...never mind you don't give a good ***** about the hundreds of thousands
of children who *are* already born that no one wants to adopt -- hey, let's
force women to crank out even more. Who cares what crap the kids have to
put up with, as long as you and your circle-jerk "Christians" can get your
way?
And you care so little, you'll kill them right off the bat.
***** up a rope, whiner. Your fantasy is refuted by my reality: I'm a
pro-choice parent and grandparent. Better ram your head back up your ***** so
you don't risk encountering more of the millions of us that are out there.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "bam" |
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| Title: Re: Overturn Roe Vs Wade The Killing (abortion) of pre born & partially born |
14 Nov 2004 08:17:12 PM |
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"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote
***** up a rope, whiner. Your fantasy is refuted by my reality: I'm a
pro-choice parent and grandparent.
You're scum.
Better ram your head back up your ***** so
you don't risk encountering more of the millions of us that are out there.
You're an old fool.
BAM
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: Overturn Roe Vs Wade The Killing (abortion) of pre born & partially born |
14 Nov 2004 11:03:06 PM |
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote
***** up a rope, whiner. Your fantasy is refuted by my reality: I'm a
pro-choice parent and grandparent.
You're scum.
Your opinion and a dollar will get you downtown on Metrorail. Do the math.
Better ram your head back up your ***** so
you don't risk encountering more of the millions of us that are out there.
You're an old fool.
Idiots like you don't survive to be old fools. (Just remember -- Darwin
*always* takes the last shot in the shootout.)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "bam" |
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| Title: Re: Overturn Roe Vs Wade The Killing (abortion) of pre born & partially born |
14 Nov 2004 11:42:00 PM |
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"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk3bzbk8l1.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote
***** up a rope, whiner. Your fantasy is refuted by my reality: I'm a
pro-choice parent and grandparent.
You're scum.
Your opinion and a dollar will get you downtown on Metrorail. Do the
math.
Better ram your head back up your ***** so
you don't risk encountering more of the millions of us that are out
there.
You're an old fool.
Idiots like you don't survive to be old fools. (Just remember -- Darwin
*always* takes the last shot in the shootout.)
What wisdom.
BAM
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: Overturn Roe Vs Wade The Killing (abortion) of pre born & partially born |
14 Nov 2004 11:59:44 PM |
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk3bzbk8l1.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote
***** up a rope, whiner. Your fantasy is refuted by my reality: I'm a
pro-choice parent and grandparent.
You're scum.
Your opinion and a dollar will get you downtown on Metrorail. Do the
math.
Better ram your head back up your ***** so
you don't risk encountering more of the millions of us that are out
there.
You're an old fool.
Idiots like you don't survive to be old fools. (Just remember -- Darwin
*always* takes the last shot in the shootout.)
What wisdom.
It beats your pablum that you're trying to pass off as advice. (I hope no
one's forcing you to read anything I post.)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "Otaku_Faith" |
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| Title: Re: Overturn Roe Vs Wade The Killing (abortion) of pre born & partially born |
15 Nov 2004 03:48:20 PM |
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(jsm) wrote in message news:<b971a682.0411131422.78c98c6d@posting.google.com>...
The killing of the unborn and partially born baby should never
Have been allowed in the Constitution.
The Consitutuion merely establishes specific bodies of goverment and
nothing more. It says nothing of morality, just outlines the form of
the federal government.
It's been about 30 years
Since this gruesome, cruel practice of killing the most defenseless
And helpless of the humanrace.
It occured before the ruling, and had a much higer rate of mortality
for the mother. This is also a sentence fragment.
Blacks were enslaved in our country more than 200 years,
Lets don't let our pre-born and partially born be killed
(aborted) any longer.
non-sequitir. Using an entirely different matter to pull emotions
won't work.
Just as our courts early on sold out Blacks to slavery, our courts
Have sold out to the youngest of the human race, to those in most need
of constitutional protection. Blacks were apparently vulnerable
during that time, and the pre-born and Partially born are the most
vulnerable today.
Just as Blacks were brought over in shackles and could not defend
themselves, the pre-born are in the mothers womb (the baby's home
before birth) and cannot defend themselves.
Perhaps in order to outlaw the killing of our unborn and partially
Born babies, we could "trade" off something. Our children's lives for
??? , or just outlaw it all together.
Unforutnatly it is a women's right to decide her own medical
practices. The Supreme Court has ruled such. The goverment shoud limit
itself from other people's lives and religious practices. Unfortunatly
the new conservatives generally forget
Protecting the unborn or partially born is not a religious way of
thinking, it has to do with being human.
Ah yes, the qualifier saying it' isn't religious. Good thing because
The Bible has God killing feti several times. In Numbers Chapter 5 it
lists how a preist can make a 'potion' to see if a wife was faihtful-
expelling the child inside her. Hosea 13:16 specifically God tells
them to kill prgenant women and the 'child' inside. (hare, the Hebrew
word for pregnant if your translation is nice about the way they put
it)
I'm glad we may bemoving past religious arguments- because you have no
Biblical leg to stand on in this issue. Unforutnatly the ones you
present are bad: bad emotional appeals instead of statistics,
'history' instead I'm not arguing for/against abortion- just your
'debate' techniques.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Overturn Roe Vs Wade The Killing (abortion) of pre born & partially born |
25 Nov 2004 01:40:40 PM |
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(jsm) wrote in message news:<b971a682.0411131422.78c98c6d@posting.google.com>...
The killing of the unborn and partially born baby should never
Have been allowed in the Constitution. It's been about 30 years
Since this gruesome, cruel practice of killing the most defenseless
And helpless of the humanrace.
Blacks were enslaved in our country more than 200 years,
Lets don't let our pre-born and partially born be killed
(aborted) any longer.
Just as our courts early on sold out Blacks to slavery, our courts
Have sold out to the youngest of the human race, to those in most need
of constitutional protection. Blacks were apparently vulnerable
during that time, and the pre-born and Partially born are the most
vulnerable today.
Just as Blacks were brought over in shackles and could not defend
themselves, the pre-born are in the mothers womb (the baby's home
before birth) and cannot defend themselves.
Perhaps in order to outlaw the killing of our unborn and partially
Born babies, we could "trade" off something. Our children's lives for
??? , or just outlaw it all together.
Protecting the unborn or partially born is not a religious way of
thinking, it has to do with being human.
Republicans are currently getting a lot of political capital out of
the abortion debate. My bet is that the worst scenario for the
Republicans would be to have Rowe v. Wade overturned since they would
lose a powerful political issue and rally the opposition in the
process. Passing a constitutional amendment outlawing gay marriage
would probably have the same effect.
I wouldn't be surprised if there aren't a lot of smart Republicans
that realize that. Now that the election is over, it will be
interesting, for instance, to see if they go back to pressing for a
constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. If they don't they're a
bunch of hypocrites.
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| User: "Steven Litvintchouk" |
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| Title: Re: Overturn Roe Vs Wade The Killing (abortion) of pre born & partiallyborn |
25 Nov 2004 05:34:58 PM |
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wrote:
jsm542@yahoo.com (jsm) wrote in message news:<b971a682.0411131422.78c98c6d@posting.google.com>...
The killing of the unborn and partially born baby should never
Have been allowed in the Constitution. It's been about 30 years
Since this gruesome, cruel practice of killing the most defenseless
And helpless of the humanrace.
Blacks were enslaved in our country more than 200 years,
Lets don't let our pre-born and partially born be killed
(aborted) any longer.
Just as our courts early on sold out Blacks to slavery, our courts
Have sold out to the youngest of the human race, to those in most need
of constitutional protection. Blacks were apparently vulnerable
during that time, and the pre-born and Partially born are the most
vulnerable today.
Just as Blacks were brought over in shackles and could not defend
themselves, the pre-born are in the mothers womb (the baby's home
before birth) and cannot defend themselves.
Perhaps in order to outlaw the killing of our unborn and partially
Born babies, we could "trade" off something. Our children's lives for
??? , or just outlaw it all together.
Protecting the unborn or partially born is not a religious way of
thinking, it has to do with being human.
Republicans are currently getting a lot of political capital out of
the abortion debate. My bet is that the worst scenario for the
Republicans would be to have Rowe v. Wade overturned since they would
lose a powerful political issue and rally the opposition in the
process. Passing a constitutional amendment outlawing gay marriage
would probably have the same effect.
I wouldn't be surprised if there aren't a lot of smart Republicans
that realize that. Now that the election is over, it will be
interesting, for instance, to see if they go back to pressing for a
constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. If they don't they're a
bunch of hypocrites.
Since the November 2 election, advocates of gay marriage, like the ACLU,
have backed off from their original plan to go to the courts to get
activist judges to rule gay marriage legal by legalistic fiat. They
are afraid that this would finally prove to many Americans that a
constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage is the only way to deal
with the issue.
So as long as the states continue to ban gay marriage on their own, the
Republicans will have a tough time claiming that a constitutional
amendment is needed.
My guess is that the issue will be defused--by both sides.
--
Steven D. Litvintchouk
Email:
Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
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| User: "Josh Rosenbluth" |
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| Title: Re: Overturn Roe Vs Wade The Killing (abortion) of pre born & partially born |
26 Nov 2004 04:47:44 PM |
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Steven Litvintchouk <sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote in message news:<C_tpd.729$Z%5.237@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
cliff84373@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Since the November 2 election, advocates of gay marriage, like the ACLU,
have backed off from their original plan to go to the courts to get
activist judges to rule gay marriage legal by legalistic fiat.
Citation?
Josh Rosenbluth
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| User: "Teresita" |
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| Title: Re: Overturn Roe Vs Wade The Killing (abortion) of pre born & partially born |
26 Nov 2004 06:35:18 PM |
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On 26 Nov 2004 14:47:44 -0800, (Josh Rosenbluth)
wrote:
Steven Litvintchouk <sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote in message news:<C_tpd.729$Z%5.237@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
cliff84373@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Since the November 2 election, advocates of gay marriage, like the ACLU,
have backed off from their original plan to go to the courts to get
activist judges to rule gay marriage legal by legalistic fiat.
Citation?
I hope they don't back off. Then we can have bans on same-sex
marriage in all fifty states.
--
Teresita aka Ruby Redinger
http://web.newsguy.com/rubyred
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| User: "Mark" |
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| Title: Re: Overturn Roe Vs Wade The Killing (abortion) of pre born & partially born |
27 Nov 2004 05:34:56 AM |
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On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 16:35:18 -0800, Teresita <teresita@dataway.com>
wrote:
On 26 Nov 2004 14:47:44 -0800, (Josh Rosenbluth)
wrote:
Steven Litvintchouk <sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote in message news:<C_tpd.729$Z%5.237@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
cliff84373@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Since the November 2 election, advocates of gay marriage, like the ACLU,
have backed off from their original plan to go to the courts to get
activist judges to rule gay marriage legal by legalistic fiat.
Citation?
I hope they don't back off. Then we can have bans on same-sex
marriage in all fifty states.
Bigotry of any stripe is decidedly un-Catholic, honey.
"In Germany they came first for the Communists and I didn't speak up
because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews and I didn't
speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade
unionists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I was a
Protestant. Then they came for me--and by that time no one was left to
speak up. * -- Martin Niemöller 1892-1984.
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