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Topic: Science > Abortion
User: "Jon Young"
Date: 08 May 2004 09:43:27 PM
Object: Partial birth abortion is legally murder
Even the most ardent pro-abortionist must admit that partial birth
abortion constitutes murder.To slaughter a child when a birth process
is involved to any degree, should be vigorously be prosecuted as a
homocide,with the attending physician receiving a life without parole
sentence.Prosecuters in America should proceed without hesitation and
let the Supreme Court decide its' merits.Even this misguided Court
couldn't bungle this one.
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User: "Loose Cannon"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 09 May 2004 12:12:04 PM
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J. Peter
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User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 09 May 2004 12:45:16 AM
"Jon Young" <jdyoung1@volcanomail.com> wrote in message
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Even the most ardent pro-abortionist

* You mean there are people out there looking for pregnant women to demand
they have abortions????
must admit that partial birth

abortion constitutes murder.To slaughter a child when a birth process
is involved to any degree, should be vigorously be prosecuted as a
homocide,with the attending physician receiving a life without parole
sentence.

* What about other murders who kill those already born, people of all ages?
Life without parole for them as well? How come they get out in 5 to 10
years for good behavior?
I do agree that these partial-birth abortions seem pretty gruesome. That's
why women should be encouraged to abort as soon as possible if they plan to
abort at all. I'm sure you'll agree.
Prosecuters in America should proceed without hesitation and

let the Supreme Court decide its' merits.Even this misguided Court
couldn't bungle this one.

--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
======================================
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User: "osprey"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 09 May 2004 02:53:37 AM
(Jon Young) wrote in message news:<25e1e54f.0405081843.607ea0e9@posting.google.com>...

Even the most ardent pro-abortionist must admit that partial birth
abortion constitutes murder.

I think anyone with any common sense will agree with you on that
matter.
Partial Birth is clearly the killing of a a human being.
To slaughter a child when a birth process

is involved to any degree, should be vigorously be prosecuted as a
homocide,with the attending physician receiving a life without parole
sentence.Prosecuters in America should proceed without hesitation and
let the Supreme Court decide its' merits.Even this misguided Court
couldn't bungle this one.

The number of Americans turning against abortions such as PBA is
growing.
Many years ago, those that were once pro-choice have now become
pro-life or changing towards the middle because they were not as
educated then on the process of abortion. Many didn't know what a
fetus looked like, much less the development stages. They assumed
that the unborn was just a wad of tissue and it took several months
for that wad to somehow change to a developed human being.
I have talked to a few people who are in their mid 40's on up, and
heard the same story from all of them. "We had no idea" is what I
hear most of them say.
"If we had known, we would never have supported it so strongly"
Today you are seeing younger Americans also rethink their position. As
we see more and more pictures and video of the unborn during
development stages, it becomes evident that abortion is the taking of
a human being.
Yes, there are different names for the unborn at different stages.
For example, a zygote simply means the egg has been fertilized.
Immediately once the sperm penetrates the outer wall of the egg, the
males DNA crosses over to the females DNA. What were once known as
chromotids, now become chromosomes.
It is amazing learning the stages and how complex life is.
Just learning how through meiosis, how a cell at a diploid stage
transforms to a haploid, it is astounding.
There are many in the pro-choice crowd who are very sensible people,
rational, and considerate. Unfortunately, they do not reside in this
NG. In here we have hard core, hate filled, pro-abortion. Who would
much rather degrade human life and redefine terms to bolster their
argument.
Yet once they are actually confronted with hard questions, they
usually turn tail and run from the issue, only to come back and hurl
insults and false accusations.
Partial Birth Abortion is wrong, unless it is used to save the life of
a woman. I have read reports from medical experts that testify that
most partial birth abortions were not necessary, and many were done
because the woman elected to have it done. If the money was there,
they got their abortion.
Abortions, in my opinion, are done for a few reasons and none of them
are good reasons.
a) Because the woman is inconvenienced by becoming a mother
b) She may be getting pressure from family, husband, or boyfriend
c) Abortion doctors will want to do them because it is a lucrative
income or they are trying to get their training to get into the
medical field
Not many, if any abortions, are actually done to save a womans life.
A life is taken though, 100% of the time.
Yes abortion is legal, I realize that. Being that it is a legal
choice, I support a woman's right to choose it. I don't support the
choice though.
Too many pro-aborts are confussed and don't understand the difference.
It appears that they feel you must support the choice in order to be
pro-choice.
Either that or they are just stupid.
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User: "junegill"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 10 May 2004 08:29:17 PM
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Even the most ardent pro-abortionist must admit that partial birth
abortion constitutes murder.


I think anyone with any common sense will agree with you on that
matter.
Partial Birth is clearly the killing of a a human being.

What would you (both) recommend should be done if it is discovered at around
6 or 7 months' gestation that the foetus had no lungs and would die as soon
as it's born?
--
June G
# 364
http://uk.geocities.com/junegill@btopenworld.com/webpages/index.html.html
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User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 10 May 2004 08:36:55 PM
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Even the most ardent pro-abortionist must admit that partial birth
abortion constitutes murder.


I think anyone with any common sense will agree with you on that
matter.
Partial Birth is clearly the killing of a a human being.


What would you (both) recommend should be done if it is discovered at

around

6 or 7 months' gestation that the foetus had no lungs and would die as

soon

as it's born?

I don't know June. We can say what we would do and think we would know...
I don't know what I would want to happen.
In a situation like that, I can certainly understand the parents
decision..no matter what it is.
.
User: "junegill"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 11 May 2004 06:12:34 AM
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Even the most ardent pro-abortionist must admit that partial birth
abortion constitutes murder.


I think anyone with any common sense will agree with you on that
matter.
Partial Birth is clearly the killing of a a human being.


What would you (both) recommend should be done if it is discovered at

around

6 or 7 months' gestation that the foetus had no lungs and would die as

soon

as it's born?


I don't know June. We can say what we would do and think we would know...
I don't know what I would want to happen.
In a situation like that, I can certainly understand the parents
decision..no matter what it is.

Thank you for answering, Robert - I note that Jon Young chickened out of
replying, as do most pro-lifers when I ask this question. The reason I
asked is that if abortion is chosen in a case like this, which it should be
in order to minimise the trauma to both the woman and the foetus, then the
best method, ID&X (misnamed partial birth abortion), is forbidden. It is a
gruesome procedure, yes, but it is also the quickest, causing the least pain
to the foetus, which at that stage of gestation, can feel pain, yet
pro-lifers rejoice at the banning of this method. Fortunately such
occurrences are very rare, but nonetheless the decision of how to remove a
doomed foetus should have been left to doctors, not to medically unqualified
people.
--
June G
# 364
http://uk.geocities.com/junegill@btopenworld.com/webpages/index.html.html
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User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 11 May 2004 08:04:54 AM
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Even the most ardent pro-abortionist must admit that partial birth
abortion constitutes murder.


I think anyone with any common sense will agree with you on that
matter.
Partial Birth is clearly the killing of a a human being.


What would you (both) recommend should be done if it is discovered at

around

6 or 7 months' gestation that the foetus had no lungs and would die as

soon

as it's born?


I don't know June. We can say what we would do and think we would

know...

I don't know what I would want to happen.
In a situation like that, I can certainly understand the parents
decision..no matter what it is.


Thank you for answering, Robert - I note that Jon Young chickened out of
replying, as do most pro-lifers when I ask this question. The reason I
asked is that if abortion is chosen in a case like this, which it should

be

in order to minimise the trauma to both the woman and the foetus, then the
best method, ID&X (misnamed partial birth abortion), is forbidden.

In a case like this I could certainly understand a partial birth abortion
because the child is most likely going to die before birth and nothing can
be done to
save the child.
Yes, I do realize that there are rare occasions where a PBA is necessary.
It is a

gruesome procedure, yes, but it is also the quickest, causing the least

pain

to the foetus, which at that stage of gestation, can feel pain, yet
pro-lifers rejoice at the banning of this method. Fortunately such
occurrences are very rare, but nonetheless the decision of how to remove a
doomed foetus should have been left to doctors, not to medically

unqualified

people.

--
June G
# 364
http://uk.geocities.com/junegill@btopenworld.com/webpages/index.html.html


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User: "MyTwoAngels"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 11 May 2004 08:11:07 AM
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Even the most ardent pro-abortionist must admit that partial birth
abortion constitutes murder.


I think anyone with any common sense will agree with you on that
matter.
Partial Birth is clearly the killing of a a human being.


What would you (both) recommend should be done if it is discovered at

around

6 or 7 months' gestation that the foetus had no lungs and would die as

soon

as it's born?


I don't know June. We can say what we would do and think we would

know...

I don't know what I would want to happen.
In a situation like that, I can certainly understand the parents
decision..no matter what it is.


Thank you for answering, Robert - I note that Jon Young chickened out of
replying, as do most pro-lifers when I ask this question. The reason I
asked is that if abortion is chosen in a case like this, which it should

be

in order to minimise the trauma to both the woman and the foetus, then the
best method, ID&X (misnamed partial birth abortion), is forbidden.


In a case like this I could certainly understand a partial birth abortion

That's interesting you said "partial birth abortion," because June
made no mention of it in her response to you.
.
User: "Mark Sebree"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 11 May 2004 03:34:30 PM
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jdyoung1@volcanomail.com (Jon Young) wrote in message

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Even the most ardent pro-abortionist must admit that partial birth
abortion constitutes murder.


I think anyone with any common sense will agree with you on that
matter.
Partial Birth is clearly the killing of a a human being.


What would you (both) recommend should be done if it is discovered at

around

6 or 7 months' gestation that the foetus had no lungs and would die as

soon

as it's born?


I don't know June. We can say what we would do and think we would

know...

I don't know what I would want to happen.
In a situation like that, I can certainly understand the parents
decision..no matter what it is.


Thank you for answering, Robert - I note that Jon Young chickened out of
replying, as do most pro-lifers when I ask this question. The reason I
asked is that if abortion is chosen in a case like this, which it should

be

in order to minimise the trauma to both the woman and the foetus, then the
best method, ID&X (misnamed partial birth abortion), is forbidden.


In a case like this I could certainly understand a partial birth abortion


That's interesting you said "partial birth abortion," because June
made no mention of it in her response to you.

With all due respect, June DID say "(misnamed partial birth abortion)"
just a couple lines up, after she stated the actual abbreviation for
the procedure that she was referring to. It is quite clear in the
line immediately above Osprey's post.
Mark Sebree
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User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 11 May 2004 04:10:48 PM
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jdyoung1@volcanomail.com (Jon Young) wrote in message

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Even the most ardent pro-abortionist must admit that partial

birth

abortion constitutes murder.


I think anyone with any common sense will agree with you on

that

matter.
Partial Birth is clearly the killing of a a human being.


What would you (both) recommend should be done if it is

discovered at

around

6 or 7 months' gestation that the foetus had no lungs and would

die as

soon

as it's born?


I don't know June. We can say what we would do and think we would

know...

I don't know what I would want to happen.
In a situation like that, I can certainly understand the parents
decision..no matter what it is.


Thank you for answering, Robert - I note that Jon Young chickened out

of

replying, as do most pro-lifers when I ask this question. The reason

I

asked is that if abortion is chosen in a case like this, which it

should

be

in order to minimise the trauma to both the woman and the foetus,

then the

best method, ID&X (misnamed partial birth abortion), is forbidden.


In a case like this I could certainly understand a partial birth

abortion


That's interesting you said "partial birth abortion," because June
made no mention of it in her response to you.


With all due respect, June DID say "(misnamed partial birth abortion)"
just a couple lines up, after she stated the actual abbreviation for
the procedure that she was referring to. It is quite clear in the
line immediately above Osprey's post.

Mark Sebree

Just to help clarify the issue.
Some claim that the Partial Birth Abortion does not exist. They are clearly
mislead and not educated on the issue.
It does exist, and it is defined in medical dictionarys
Read below
In recent weeks, we have seen many claims that the term "partial-birth
abortion" is "not found in any medical dictionary." (Example: NOW
President Kim Gandy, Oct. 21 press release: "Try as you might, you
won't find the term 'partial birth abortion' in any medical
dictionary.") This claim is diversionary, since "partial-birth
abortion" is a legal term of art that is defined by Congress in the
bill itself (S. 3). However, the claim is also untrue. If you go to
major medical websites such as Medline at the National Institutes of
Health or the Intelihealth site affiliated with the Harvard Medical
School, and use the medical dictionary search tools (which access the
Merriam Webster Medical Dictionary), you find "partial-birth abortion"
defined as "an abortion in the second or third trimester of pregnancy
in which the death of the fetus is induced after it has passed partway
through the birth canal." See:
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/mplusdictionary.html
http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH/WSIHW000/9276/9276.html
However, the legal scope of the ban in S. 3 is narrower than that
medical definition, because to fall under the legal ban in S. 3, as
the bill explicitly provides, the baby must be delivered, while still
alive, feet-first outside the mother's body (not only outside the
womb), past the navel. (Or, if anybody did it head first, the entire
head must be delivered outside the mother's body.)
Merriam-Webster Medical Dictionary
Typed in Partial-Birth abortion
found
Main Entry: par·tial-birth abortion
Pronunciation: 'pär-sh&l-
Function: noun
: an abortion in the second or third trimester of pregnancy in which
the death of the fetus is induced after it has passed partway through
the birth canal
Medline
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/mplusdictionary.html
Typed in partial-birth abortion
Found
Medical Dictionary
One entry found for partial-birth abortion.
Main Entry: par·tial-birth abortion
Pronunciation: 'pär-sh&l-
Function: noun
: an abortion in the second or third trimester of pregnancy in which
the death of the fetus is induced after it has passed partway through
the birth canal
.
User: "MyTwoAngels"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 11 May 2004 04:12:31 PM
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Even the most ardent pro-abortionist must admit that partial

birth

abortion constitutes murder.


I think anyone with any common sense will agree with you on

that

matter.
Partial Birth is clearly the killing of a a human being.


What would you (both) recommend should be done if it is

discovered at

around

6 or 7 months' gestation that the foetus had no lungs and would

die as

soon

as it's born?


I don't know June. We can say what we would do and think we would

know...

I don't know what I would want to happen.
In a situation like that, I can certainly understand the parents
decision..no matter what it is.


Thank you for answering, Robert - I note that Jon Young chickened out

of

replying, as do most pro-lifers when I ask this question. The reason

I

asked is that if abortion is chosen in a case like this, which it

should

be

in order to minimise the trauma to both the woman and the foetus,

then the

best method, ID&X (misnamed partial birth abortion), is forbidden.


In a case like this I could certainly understand a partial birth

abortion


That's interesting you said "partial birth abortion," because June
made no mention of it in her response to you.


With all due respect, June DID say "(misnamed partial birth abortion)"
just a couple lines up, after she stated the actual abbreviation for
the procedure that she was referring to. It is quite clear in the
line immediately above Osprey's post.

Mark Sebree


Just to help clarify the issue.

It's already been clarified and I recanted my original statement - but
in no way does it mean that I agree with your beliefs that a
non-existing procedure is ocurring.
.


User: "MyTwoAngels"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 11 May 2004 03:45:15 PM
On 11 May 2004 13:34:30 -0700,
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Even the most ardent pro-abortionist must admit that partial birth
abortion constitutes murder.


I think anyone with any common sense will agree with you on that
matter.
Partial Birth is clearly the killing of a a human being.


What would you (both) recommend should be done if it is discovered at

around

6 or 7 months' gestation that the foetus had no lungs and would die as

soon

as it's born?


I don't know June. We can say what we would do and think we would

know...

I don't know what I would want to happen.
In a situation like that, I can certainly understand the parents
decision..no matter what it is.


Thank you for answering, Robert - I note that Jon Young chickened out of
replying, as do most pro-lifers when I ask this question. The reason I
asked is that if abortion is chosen in a case like this, which it should

be

in order to minimise the trauma to both the woman and the foetus, then the
best method, ID&X (misnamed partial birth abortion), is forbidden.


In a case like this I could certainly understand a partial birth abortion


That's interesting you said "partial birth abortion," because June
made no mention of it in her response to you.


With all due respect, June DID say "(misnamed partial birth abortion)"
just a couple lines up, after she stated the actual abbreviation for
the procedure that she was referring to. It is quite clear in the
line immediately above Osprey's post.

Got that. Thanks.
But if anybody closely examines the differences between what the
Pro-Lifers allege is going on and the D&X procedure (through credible
sources/testimony), they'll see that the alleged "partial birth
abortion" does not exist. (That is what I meant to convey in response
to osprey's "understanding a partial birth abortion" - what is to
understand when no such procedure exists.)

Mark Sebree

.

User: "MyTwoAngels"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 11 May 2004 03:38:23 PM
On 11 May 2004 13:34:30 -0700,
(Mark Sebree)
wrote:

MyTwoAngels <prochoiceistheway2go@email.com> wrote in message news:<66k1a0dbgi25k4u1edkedr0nmqphqptv49@4ax.com>...

On Tue, 11 May 2004 09:04:54 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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jdyoung1@volcanomail.com (Jon Young) wrote in message

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Even the most ardent pro-abortionist must admit that partial birth
abortion constitutes murder.


I think anyone with any common sense will agree with you on that
matter.
Partial Birth is clearly the killing of a a human being.


What would you (both) recommend should be done if it is discovered at

around

6 or 7 months' gestation that the foetus had no lungs and would die as

soon

as it's born?


I don't know June. We can say what we would do and think we would

know...

I don't know what I would want to happen.
In a situation like that, I can certainly understand the parents
decision..no matter what it is.


Thank you for answering, Robert - I note that Jon Young chickened out of
replying, as do most pro-lifers when I ask this question. The reason I
asked is that if abortion is chosen in a case like this, which it should

be

in order to minimise the trauma to both the woman and the foetus, then the
best method, ID&X (misnamed partial birth abortion), is forbidden.


In a case like this I could certainly understand a partial birth abortion


That's interesting you said "partial birth abortion," because June
made no mention of it in her response to you.


With all due respect, June DID say "(misnamed partial birth abortion)"
just a couple lines up, after she stated the actual abbreviation for
the procedure that she was referring to. It is quite clear in the
line immediately above Osprey's post.

Gotcha. :-)
Thank you.

Mark Sebree

.





User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 10 May 2004 10:37:05 PM
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote in message

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message

Even the most ardent pro-abortionist must admit that partial birth
abortion constitutes murder.


I think anyone with any common sense will agree with you on that
matter.
Partial Birth is clearly the killing of a a human being.


What would you (both) recommend should be done if it is discovered at

around

6 or 7 months' gestation that the foetus had no lungs and would die as

soon

as it's born?


I don't know June.

Why not? Just above you seemed really certain. Now, when you're
asked a real question you suddenly turn coward and refuse to answer.

We can say what we would do and think we would know...
I don't know what I would want to happen.

Then you have no business spewing your hateful *****, condemning
others for the choices they have to make.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 11 May 2004 08:03:27 AM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c7php0$dp7$1@bolt.sonic.net...

Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote in message

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message


Even the most ardent pro-abortionist must admit that partial birth
abortion constitutes murder.


I think anyone with any common sense will agree with you on that
matter.
Partial Birth is clearly the killing of a a human being.


What would you (both) recommend should be done if it is discovered at

around

6 or 7 months' gestation that the foetus had no lungs and would die as

soon

as it's born?


I don't know June.


Why not? Just above you seemed really certain. Now, when you're
asked a real question you suddenly turn coward and refuse to answer.

We can say what we would do and think we would know...
I don't know what I would want to happen.


Then you have no business spewing your hateful *****, condemning
others for the choices they have to make.

this is why I view you as scum and give June respect
.
User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 11 May 2004 07:28:15 PM
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote in message

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message


Even the most ardent pro-abortionist must admit that partial

birth

abortion constitutes murder.


I think anyone with any common sense will agree with you on that
matter.
Partial Birth is clearly the killing of a a human being.


What would you (both) recommend should be done if it is discovered at

around

6 or 7 months' gestation that the foetus had no lungs and would die

as

soon

as it's born?


I don't know June.


Why not? Just above you seemed really certain. Now, when you're
asked a real question you suddenly turn coward and refuse to answer.

We can say what we would do and think we would know...
I don't know what I would want to happen.


Then you have no business spewing your hateful *****, condemning
others for the choices they have to make.


this is why I view you as scum and give June respect

========================
Who the hell are YOU to view anyone as scum? You can't debate anything.
All you do is stamp your foot like an angry little boy and start calling
people names. Why haven't you outgrown that?
What's really pathetic is you seem to feel everyone should believe as you
do, think as you do, worship as you do, raise their kids as you claim you
raise yours..... I have a feeling you belong to a very strict
fundamentalist cult that rules you parishioners with a communistic iron
fist. Maybe you need to change churches.
--
The Purple Coneflower....
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived."
-= Isaac Asimov =-
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 11 May 2004 07:57:52 PM
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote in message

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message


Even the most ardent pro-abortionist must admit that partial

birth

abortion constitutes murder.


I think anyone with any common sense will agree with you on that
matter.
Partial Birth is clearly the killing of a a human being.


What would you (both) recommend should be done if it is discovered

at

around

6 or 7 months' gestation that the foetus had no lungs and would die

as

soon

as it's born?


I don't know June.


Why not? Just above you seemed really certain. Now, when you're
asked a real question you suddenly turn coward and refuse to answer.

We can say what we would do and think we would know...
I don't know what I would want to happen.


Then you have no business spewing your hateful *****, condemning
others for the choices they have to make.


this is why I view you as scum and give June respect

========================
Who the hell are YOU to view anyone as scum?

I am me, and I can view who I wish as scum.
You are scum
<snipping your rambling...it is old and unoriginal>
.
User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 12 May 2004 12:20:46 AM
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote in message

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message


Even the most ardent pro-abortionist must admit that partial

birth

abortion constitutes murder.


I think anyone with any common sense will agree with you on

that

matter.
Partial Birth is clearly the killing of a a human being.


What would you (both) recommend should be done if it is

discovered

at

around

6 or 7 months' gestation that the foetus had no lungs and would

die

as

soon

as it's born?


I don't know June.


Why not? Just above you seemed really certain. Now, when you're
asked a real question you suddenly turn coward and refuse to answer.

We can say what we would do and think we would know...
I don't know what I would want to happen.


Then you have no business spewing your hateful *****, condemning
others for the choices they have to make.


this is why I view you as scum and give June respect

========================
Who the hell are YOU to view anyone as scum?


I am me, and I can view who I wish as scum.
You are scum

========================
Yeah, everyone who disagrees with you are SCUM! The truth being that YOU
are the scum on the NG. Somehow you believe your god gave you the power to
judge others... you need to find another church.
--
BTW,.... I'm PRO-CHOICE! :-)
Flower Power...
pro-choice (pr-chois)
adj.
Favoring or supporting the legal right of women and girls to choose
whether or not to continue a pregnancy to term.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Pro-Choice
~~~<~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~~{@
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 12 May 2004 10:29:28 AM
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote in message

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message


Even the most ardent pro-abortionist must admit that

partial

birth

abortion constitutes murder.


I think anyone with any common sense will agree with you on

that

matter.
Partial Birth is clearly the killing of a a human being.


What would you (both) recommend should be done if it is

discovered

at

around

6 or 7 months' gestation that the foetus had no lungs and would

die

as

soon

as it's born?


I don't know June.


Why not? Just above you seemed really certain. Now, when you're
asked a real question you suddenly turn coward and refuse to

answer.


We can say what we would do and think we would know...
I don't know what I would want to happen.


Then you have no business spewing your hateful *****,

condemning

others for the choices they have to make.


this is why I view you as scum and give June respect

========================
Who the hell are YOU to view anyone as scum?


I am me, and I can view who I wish as scum.
You are scum

========================
Yeah, everyone who disagrees with you are SCUM!

Nope, not everyone
You are though
.
User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 12 May 2004 11:39:36 AM
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote in message

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message


Even the most ardent pro-abortionist must admit that

partial

birth

abortion constitutes murder.


I think anyone with any common sense will agree with you on

that

matter.
Partial Birth is clearly the killing of a a human being.


What would you (both) recommend should be done if it is

discovered

at

around

6 or 7 months' gestation that the foetus had no lungs and

would

die

as

soon

as it's born?


I don't know June.


Why not? Just above you seemed really certain. Now, when

you're

asked a real question you suddenly turn coward and refuse to

answer.


We can say what we would do and think we would know...
I don't know what I would want to happen.


Then you have no business spewing your hateful *****,

condemning

others for the choices they have to make.


this is why I view you as scum and give June respect

========================
Who the hell are YOU to view anyone as scum?


I am me, and I can view who I wish as scum.
You are scum

========================
Yeah, everyone who disagrees with you are SCUM!


Nope, not everyone
You are though

=====================
I am? Why? Because I don't believe in PUNISHING women for having sex? How
warped of you. Of course YOU don't see what SCUM you are by being a
misogynist and wanting to HURT women and teenage girls? Was that because no
one would look at or date you? There is always a reason when men want to
HARM and HURT women and girls. What is our reason, your excuse?
--
BTW,.... I'm PRO-CHOICE! :-)
Flower Power...
pro-choice (pr-chois)
adj.
Favoring or supporting the legal right of women and girls to choose
whether or not to continue a pregnancy to term.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Pro-Choice
~~~<~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~~{@



.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 12 May 2004 12:24:19 PM
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote in message

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message


Even the most ardent pro-abortionist must admit that

partial

birth

abortion constitutes murder.


I think anyone with any common sense will agree with you

on

that

matter.
Partial Birth is clearly the killing of a a human being.


What would you (both) recommend should be done if it is

discovered

at

around

6 or 7 months' gestation that the foetus had no lungs and

would

die

as

soon

as it's born?


I don't know June.


Why not? Just above you seemed really certain. Now, when

you're

asked a real question you suddenly turn coward and refuse to

answer.


We can say what we would do and think we would know...
I don't know what I would want to happen.


Then you have no business spewing your hateful *****,

condemning

others for the choices they have to make.


this is why I view you as scum and give June respect

========================
Who the hell are YOU to view anyone as scum?


I am me, and I can view who I wish as scum.
You are scum

========================
Yeah, everyone who disagrees with you are SCUM!


Nope, not everyone
You are though

=====================
I am?

Yes
.
User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 12 May 2004 04:37:00 PM
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"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote in message

"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message


Even the most ardent pro-abortionist must admit that

partial

birth

abortion constitutes murder.


I think anyone with any common sense will agree with

you

on

that

matter.
Partial Birth is clearly the killing of a a human

being.


What would you (both) recommend should be done if it is

discovered

at

around

6 or 7 months' gestation that the foetus had no lungs and

would

die

as

soon

as it's born?


I don't know June.


Why not? Just above you seemed really certain. Now, when

you're

asked a real question you suddenly turn coward and refuse to

answer.


We can say what we would do and think we would know...
I don't know what I would want to happen.


Then you have no business spewing your hateful *****,

condemning

others for the choices they have to make.


this is why I view you as scum and give June respect

========================
Who the hell are YOU to view anyone as scum?


I am me, and I can view who I wish as scum.
You are scum

========================
Yeah, everyone who disagrees with you are SCUM!


Nope, not everyone
You are though

=====================
I am?


Yes
================

So SCUM means anyone who disagrees with you? SCUM is anyone who is
pro-choice. SCUM means a woman who you can't control and bend to YOUR will
right? A women who thinks for herself? Wow! I'm sure there are a few are
aren't scum huddled into the corner of a pew in your church, just waiting
for a man to run her miserable, fearful, uncertain life.....
--
FP......
"Men never do evil so completely and
cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."
~ Blaise Pascal (1623-1662) ~
~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~*
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 12 May 2004 09:11:32 PM
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message


Even the most ardent pro-abortionist must admit

that

partial

birth

abortion constitutes murder.


I think anyone with any common sense will agree with

you

on

that

matter.
Partial Birth is clearly the killing of a a human

being.


What would you (both) recommend should be done if it is

discovered

at

around

6 or 7 months' gestation that the foetus had no lungs

and

would

die

as

soon

as it's born?


I don't know June.


Why not? Just above you seemed really certain. Now, when

you're

asked a real question you suddenly turn coward and refuse

to

answer.


We can say what we would do and think we would know...
I don't know what I would want to happen.


Then you have no business spewing your hateful *****,

condemning

others for the choices they have to make.


this is why I view you as scum and give June respect

========================
Who the hell are YOU to view anyone as scum?


I am me, and I can view who I wish as scum.
You are scum

========================
Yeah, everyone who disagrees with you are SCUM!


Nope, not everyone
You are though

=====================
I am?


Yes
================

So SCUM

Yes, you are scum and I prefer to talk with more intelligent people and
discuss issues.
You have been one of the most arrogant, judgemental, ignorant, people I have
seen in this NG
When you grow up let me know.
.
User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 13 May 2004 12:54:51 AM
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Flower Power" <LiberatedFlowers@garden.net> wrote in message
Yes, you are scum Osprey and I prefer to talk with more intelligent people
and
discuss issues without your kaka poopoo name calling. You obviously suffer
from some form of juvenile personality disorder.
You are one of the most arrogant, judgmental, ignorant, uneducated,
intolerant men I have
seen on this NG

When you grow up let me know.

More kaka poopoo from you.... you just can't post a message without it!
LOL! :-D Is Na na na na na.... next?
Flower Power.....
"Thou seest the mote in thy brother's eye, but thou seest not the beam
in thine own eye. When thou castest the beam out of thine own eye,
then wilt thou see clearly to cast the mote from thy brother's eye."
===============================================
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 13 May 2004 12:57:41 AM
<snip>
Nothing worth reading
Do you think Flower Power will get the hint????
.
User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 13 May 2004 07:18:47 AM
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:

<snip>
Nothing worth reading
Do you think Flower Power will get the hint????

I think she's already figured out your m.o, Bobstander -- you're a 33 1/3
record on a 78 turntable...
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
.

User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 13 May 2004 10:24:35 PM
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:VMednbd4yM60kz7dRVn-jg@comcast.com...

<snip>

Nothing worth reading
Do you think Flower Power will get the hint????

================
More insults from a total loser......
--
The Purple Coneflower....
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived."
-= Isaac Asimov =-
.

User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 13 May 2004 01:19:10 AM
In article <VMednbd4yM60kz7dRVn-jg@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

<snip>

Nothing worth reading
Do you think Flower Power will get the hint????

We ALL have the hint with you. You are a child.
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User: "MyTwoAngels"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 13 May 2004 02:19:34 AM
On Wed, 12 May 2004 23:19:10 -0700, "David W. Barnes"
<VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote:

In article <VMednbd4yM60kz7dRVn-jg@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

<snip>

Nothing worth reading
Do you think Flower Power will get the hint????


We ALL have the hint with you. You are a child.

No, he's a grown man who prefers to do stupid things.
My little boy behaves better than Heishman.
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User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: Partial birth abortion is legally murder 13 May 2004 10:26:39 PM
"MyTwoAngels" <illlovemy2angels4life@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7986a0lso6ehgsu9qqjc904936ejrsa24c@4ax.com...

On Wed, 12 May 2004 23:19:10 -0700, "David W. Barnes"
<VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote:

In article <VMednbd4yM60kz7dRVn-jg@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

<snip>

Nothing worth reading
Do you think Flower Power will get the hint????


We ALL have the hint with you. You are a child.


No, he's a grown man who prefers to do stupid things.

My little boy behaves better than Heishman.

==============================
So does my 10 year old grandson. He was raised to be tolerant, non
judgmental and to have compassion and love for everyone. :-) He's growing
into a fine young man.
--
The Purple Coneflower....
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived."
-= Isaac Asimov =-
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