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Science > Abortion |
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"osprey" |
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23 Apr 2004 11:49:34 PM |
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Pat Tillman - True American |
After hearing the news yesterday about the loss of Pat Tillman and
reading about his history and decision to leave the NFL, a 3 million
dollar contract for a 18k a year job as an Army Ranger, I couldn't
help but to think that this is someone that we could all look up too.
Pat Tillman didn't care about the money, he cared about serving his
country. How many others do we know that would give it all up to
serve his or her country? I doubt there is a one of us in this news
group that knows someone that would do that.
Pat Tillman reminded me of what dedication is all about.
When he left the NFL to serve his country, he declinded interviews
because he knew what he wanted to do and didn't feel the need to brag.
That man felt his job was to serve his country in battle, and that he
did with honor.
This isn't to mean that the loss of anyone else is any less
significant. They are all doing a job for their country. These men and
women volunteered and are facing the enemy.
As I see pictures of the bodies coming back to Dover A.F.B., a scene I
am only all to familiar with from my time on active duty at Dover, I
see that they are given the highest respect. Some argue that the
pictures shouldn't be shown, I think they should. They serve as a
reminder of what we are sacrificing for freedom. They also show us the
reality of war.
During my time in active duty at Dover, I would see many coming back
from all over the war. Some died in accidents, some in military
excerise, some in war. One thing we always did when a C-5 touched
ground, before we opened those doors, we would always bowed our heads
in prayer, would hold a moment of silence and render a salute to those
who gave the ultimate price.
Pat Tillman, although no different than anyone else serving, has shown
us what true dedication is. He was not a selfish person, he was not
doing anything for show, he was simply doing his duty and in my
opinion he is an American hero in every sense of the word. We don't
see many like Pat Tillman, and I doubt he will ever be forgotten.
.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Pat Tillman - True American |
24 Apr 2004 12:43:47 AM |
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In article <8912d58d.0404232049.4226e8cf@posting.google.com>, osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
After hearing the news yesterday about the loss of Pat Tillman and
reading about his history and decision to leave the NFL, a 3 million
dollar contract for a 18k a year job as an Army Ranger, I couldn't
help but to think that this is someone that we could all look up too.
Pat Tillman didn't care about the money, he cared about serving his
country. How many others do we know that would give it all up to
serve his or her country? I doubt there is a one of us in this news
group that knows someone that would do that.
Pat Tillman reminded me of what dedication is all about.
When he left the NFL to serve his country, he declinded interviews
because he knew what he wanted to do and didn't feel the need to brag.
That man felt his job was to serve his country in battle, and that he
did with honor.
This isn't to mean that the loss of anyone else is any less
significant. They are all doing a job for their country. These men and
women volunteered and are facing the enemy.
As I see pictures of the bodies coming back to Dover A.F.B., a scene I
am only all to familiar with from my time on active duty at Dover, I
see that they are given the highest respect. Some argue that the
pictures shouldn't be shown, I think they should. They serve as a
reminder of what we are sacrificing for freedom. They also show us the
reality of war.
During my time in active duty at Dover, I would see many coming back
from all over the war. Some died in accidents, some in military
excerise, some in war. One thing we always did when a C-5 touched
ground, before we opened those doors, we would always bowed our heads
in prayer, would hold a moment of silence and render a salute to those
who gave the ultimate price.
Pat Tillman, although no different than anyone else serving, has shown
us what true dedication is. He was not a selfish person, he was not
doing anything for show, he was simply doing his duty and in my
opinion he is an American hero in every sense of the word. We don't
see many like Pat Tillman, and I doubt he will ever be forgotten.
Pat Tillman may still serve his country. Perhaps people like you who
find glory and pride in fighting a war from their couch or while
failing to conserve the gas that fuels this war will finally make the
connection to him that you don't seem make with the average service
members when they are killed and maimed in such a futile and pointless
war. It is obvious that many people in this country today fail to
understand that these are not just numbers. These are real human
beings.
Perhaps people will start to see that these are real people out there
who are dying for Bush's pointless war that does not ensure security,
and actually does the opposite. His is a war meant to ensure the
future for, not the U.S., because that future is not endangered by Iraq
or Afghanistan, but for companies like Cheney's Halliburton.
Many of us grieve for ALL those who die for the senseless and selfish
goal that defines our true purpose in the middle east. The Bush
Administration works hard to hide the bodies and mangled bodies from us
by refusing to allow news agencies to cover that aspect of the war.
But for most of us, certainly those who spend more than a Fox Minute
thinking about the issue, we still recognize the true price being paid
by Americans and our Allies. For others, it requires a name, like Pat
Tillman.
.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Pat Tillman - True American |
24 Apr 2004 07:53:36 AM |
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"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:230420042243478960%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com...
In article <8912d58d.0404232049.4226e8cf@posting.google.com>, osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
After hearing the news yesterday about the loss of Pat Tillman and
reading about his history and decision to leave the NFL, a 3 million
dollar contract for a 18k a year job as an Army Ranger, I couldn't
help but to think that this is someone that we could all look up too.
Pat Tillman didn't care about the money, he cared about serving his
country. How many others do we know that would give it all up to
serve his or her country? I doubt there is a one of us in this news
group that knows someone that would do that.
Pat Tillman reminded me of what dedication is all about.
When he left the NFL to serve his country, he declinded interviews
because he knew what he wanted to do and didn't feel the need to brag.
That man felt his job was to serve his country in battle, and that he
did with honor.
This isn't to mean that the loss of anyone else is any less
significant. They are all doing a job for their country. These men and
women volunteered and are facing the enemy.
As I see pictures of the bodies coming back to Dover A.F.B., a scene I
am only all to familiar with from my time on active duty at Dover, I
see that they are given the highest respect. Some argue that the
pictures shouldn't be shown, I think they should. They serve as a
reminder of what we are sacrificing for freedom. They also show us the
reality of war.
During my time in active duty at Dover, I would see many coming back
from all over the war. Some died in accidents, some in military
excerise, some in war. One thing we always did when a C-5 touched
ground, before we opened those doors, we would always bowed our heads
in prayer, would hold a moment of silence and render a salute to those
who gave the ultimate price.
Pat Tillman, although no different than anyone else serving, has shown
us what true dedication is. He was not a selfish person, he was not
doing anything for show, he was simply doing his duty and in my
opinion he is an American hero in every sense of the word. We don't
see many like Pat Tillman, and I doubt he will ever be forgotten.
Pat Tillman may still serve his country. Perhaps people like you who
find glory and pride in fighting a war from their couch or while
failing to conserve the gas that fuels this war will finally make the
connection to him that you don't seem make with the average service
members when they are killed and maimed in such a futile and pointless
war. It is obvious that many people in this country today fail to
understand that these are not just numbers. These are real human
beings.
Perhaps people will start to see that these are real people out there
who are dying for Bush's pointless war that does not ensure security,
and actually does the opposite. His is a war meant to ensure the
future for, not the U.S., because that future is not endangered by Iraq
or Afghanistan, but for companies like Cheney's Halliburton.
Many of us grieve for ALL those who die for the senseless and selfish
goal that defines our true purpose in the middle east. The Bush
Administration works hard to hide the bodies and mangled bodies from us
by refusing to allow news agencies to cover that aspect of the war.
But for most of us, certainly those who spend more than a Fox Minute
thinking about the issue, we still recognize the true price being paid
by Americans and our Allies. For others, it requires a name, like Pat
Tillman.
Leaving the above as a good example of what kind of a person Barnes is and
how low he is.
I make a post to tribute a man who served his country, and Barnes uses this
post to take advantage
to make a political attack out of it instead.
.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Pat Tillman - True American |
24 Apr 2004 09:42:15 AM |
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In article <bq6dnU8Mabqh_hfdRVn-sw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:230420042243478960%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com...
In article <8912d58d.0404232049.4226e8cf@posting.google.com>, osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
After hearing the news yesterday about the loss of Pat Tillman and
reading about his history and decision to leave the NFL, a 3 million
dollar contract for a 18k a year job as an Army Ranger, I couldn't
help but to think that this is someone that we could all look up too.
Pat Tillman didn't care about the money, he cared about serving his
country. How many others do we know that would give it all up to
serve his or her country? I doubt there is a one of us in this news
group that knows someone that would do that.
Pat Tillman reminded me of what dedication is all about.
When he left the NFL to serve his country, he declinded interviews
because he knew what he wanted to do and didn't feel the need to brag.
That man felt his job was to serve his country in battle, and that he
did with honor.
This isn't to mean that the loss of anyone else is any less
significant. They are all doing a job for their country. These men and
women volunteered and are facing the enemy.
As I see pictures of the bodies coming back to Dover A.F.B., a scene I
am only all to familiar with from my time on active duty at Dover, I
see that they are given the highest respect. Some argue that the
pictures shouldn't be shown, I think they should. They serve as a
reminder of what we are sacrificing for freedom. They also show us the
reality of war.
During my time in active duty at Dover, I would see many coming back
from all over the war. Some died in accidents, some in military
excerise, some in war. One thing we always did when a C-5 touched
ground, before we opened those doors, we would always bowed our heads
in prayer, would hold a moment of silence and render a salute to those
who gave the ultimate price.
Pat Tillman, although no different than anyone else serving, has shown
us what true dedication is. He was not a selfish person, he was not
doing anything for show, he was simply doing his duty and in my
opinion he is an American hero in every sense of the word. We don't
see many like Pat Tillman, and I doubt he will ever be forgotten.
Pat Tillman may still serve his country. Perhaps people like you who
find glory and pride in fighting a war from their couch or while
failing to conserve the gas that fuels this war will finally make the
connection to him that you don't seem make with the average service
members when they are killed and maimed in such a futile and pointless
war. It is obvious that many people in this country today fail to
understand that these are not just numbers. These are real human
beings.
Perhaps people will start to see that these are real people out there
who are dying for Bush's pointless war that does not ensure security,
and actually does the opposite. His is a war meant to ensure the
future for, not the U.S., because that future is not endangered by Iraq
or Afghanistan, but for companies like Cheney's Halliburton.
Many of us grieve for ALL those who die for the senseless and selfish
goal that defines our true purpose in the middle east. The Bush
Administration works hard to hide the bodies and mangled bodies from us
by refusing to allow news agencies to cover that aspect of the war.
But for most of us, certainly those who spend more than a Fox Minute
thinking about the issue, we still recognize the true price being paid
by Americans and our Allies. For others, it requires a name, like Pat
Tillman.
Leaving the above as a good example of what kind of a person Barnes is and
how low he is.
I make a post to tribute a man who served his country, and Barnes uses this
post to take advantage
to make a political attack out of it instead.
You wrote the above to try to make yourself feel good about supporting
a policy that gets fine Americans killed for no reason. Pat Tillman
isn't you or George Bush, he is John Kerry. He volunteered for war,
like John Kerry. He was injured in war, like John Kerry. He didnšt
have to go to war due to his social position but felt a responsibility
to do so, like John Kerry.
But for pure unfortunate luck, he was killed while John Kerry was only
wounded. You attack John Kerry, a fine man who served his country and
is similar in character to Pat Tillman, but claim to admire Pat
Tillman due to your hatred of a political party. Pat Tillman fought
for something that people like you and George Bush can never
understand. Like John Kerry, Pat Tillman didn't have to go overseas to
fight for his country, like John Kerry, he CHOSE to do so. George
Bush, on the other hand, did everything he could to escape that
responsibility and now sends others to their death with little thought
or concern.
The fact that you support George Bush, the antithesis of Pat Tillman,
the fact that you tried to buttress your hatred through the blood of a
fine American, while attacking another fine American who was in the
near identical situation, says much about you. You would do well to
recognize just how much John Kerry is like Pat Tillman, and the
contrariety he represents to George Bush.
.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Pat Tillman - True American |
24 Apr 2004 01:29:51 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:240420040742154440%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com...
In article <bq6dnU8Mabqh_hfdRVn-sw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:230420042243478960%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com...
In article <8912d58d.0404232049.4226e8cf@posting.google.com>, osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
After hearing the news yesterday about the loss of Pat Tillman and
reading about his history and decision to leave the NFL, a 3 million
dollar contract for a 18k a year job as an Army Ranger, I couldn't
help but to think that this is someone that we could all look up
too.
Pat Tillman didn't care about the money, he cared about serving his
country. How many others do we know that would give it all up to
serve his or her country? I doubt there is a one of us in this news
group that knows someone that would do that.
Pat Tillman reminded me of what dedication is all about.
When he left the NFL to serve his country, he declinded interviews
because he knew what he wanted to do and didn't feel the need to
brag.
That man felt his job was to serve his country in battle, and that
he
did with honor.
This isn't to mean that the loss of anyone else is any less
significant. They are all doing a job for their country. These men
and
women volunteered and are facing the enemy.
As I see pictures of the bodies coming back to Dover A.F.B., a scene
I
am only all to familiar with from my time on active duty at Dover, I
see that they are given the highest respect. Some argue that the
pictures shouldn't be shown, I think they should. They serve as a
reminder of what we are sacrificing for freedom. They also show us
the
reality of war.
During my time in active duty at Dover, I would see many coming back
from all over the war. Some died in accidents, some in military
excerise, some in war. One thing we always did when a C-5 touched
ground, before we opened those doors, we would always bowed our
heads
in prayer, would hold a moment of silence and render a salute to
those
who gave the ultimate price.
Pat Tillman, although no different than anyone else serving, has
shown
us what true dedication is. He was not a selfish person, he was not
doing anything for show, he was simply doing his duty and in my
opinion he is an American hero in every sense of the word. We don't
see many like Pat Tillman, and I doubt he will ever be forgotten.
Pat Tillman may still serve his country. Perhaps people like you who
find glory and pride in fighting a war from their couch or while
failing to conserve the gas that fuels this war will finally make the
connection to him that you don't seem make with the average service
members when they are killed and maimed in such a futile and pointless
war. It is obvious that many people in this country today fail to
understand that these are not just numbers. These are real human
beings.
Perhaps people will start to see that these are real people out there
who are dying for Bush's pointless war that does not ensure security,
and actually does the opposite. His is a war meant to ensure the
future for, not the U.S., because that future is not endangered by
Iraq
or Afghanistan, but for companies like Cheney's Halliburton.
Many of us grieve for ALL those who die for the senseless and selfish
goal that defines our true purpose in the middle east. The Bush
Administration works hard to hide the bodies and mangled bodies from
us
by refusing to allow news agencies to cover that aspect of the war.
But for most of us, certainly those who spend more than a Fox Minute
thinking about the issue, we still recognize the true price being paid
by Americans and our Allies. For others, it requires a name, like Pat
Tillman.
Leaving the above as a good example of what kind of a person Barnes is
and
how low he is.
I make a post to tribute a man who served his country, and Barnes uses
this
post to take advantage
to make a political attack out of it instead.
You wrote the above to try to make yourself feel good about supporting
a policy that gets fine Americans killed for no reason.
Fighting against Al Queda in Afganistan was for no reason?
Pat Tillman
isn't you or George Bush, he is John Kerry. He volunteered for war,
like John Kerry. He was injured in war, like John Kerry. He didnšt
have to go to war due to his social position but felt a responsibility
to do so, like John Kerry.
But for pure unfortunate luck, he was killed while John Kerry was only
wounded. You attack John Kerry, a fine man who served his country and
is similar in character to Pat Tillman, but claim to admire Pat
Tillman due to your hatred of a political party. Pat Tillman fought
for something that people like you and George Bush can never
understand. Like John Kerry, Pat Tillman didn't have to go overseas to
fight for his country, like John Kerry, he CHOSE to do so. George
Bush, on the other hand, did everything he could to escape that
responsibility and now sends others to their death with little thought
or concern.
The fact that you support George Bush, the antithesis of Pat Tillman,
the fact that you tried to buttress your hatred through the blood of a
fine American, while attacking another fine American who was in the
near identical situation, says much about you. You would do well to
recognize just how much John Kerry is like Pat Tillman, and the
contrariety he represents to George Bush.
The fact that you taken a issue to try and make it political only goes to
show how
low you will resort
.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Pat Tillman - True American |
24 Apr 2004 06:54:42 PM |
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In article <8rmdnZibO-6VLxfdRVn-jw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:240420040742154440%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com...
In article <bq6dnU8Mabqh_hfdRVn-sw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:230420042243478960%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com...
In article <8912d58d.0404232049.4226e8cf@posting.google.com>, osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
After hearing the news yesterday about the loss of Pat Tillman and
reading about his history and decision to leave the NFL, a 3 million
dollar contract for a 18k a year job as an Army Ranger, I couldn't
help but to think that this is someone that we could all look up
too.
Pat Tillman didn't care about the money, he cared about serving his
country. How many others do we know that would give it all up to
serve his or her country? I doubt there is a one of us in this news
group that knows someone that would do that.
Pat Tillman reminded me of what dedication is all about.
When he left the NFL to serve his country, he declinded interviews
because he knew what he wanted to do and didn't feel the need to
brag.
That man felt his job was to serve his country in battle, and that
he
did with honor.
This isn't to mean that the loss of anyone else is any less
significant. They are all doing a job for their country. These men
and
women volunteered and are facing the enemy.
As I see pictures of the bodies coming back to Dover A.F.B., a scene
I
am only all to familiar with from my time on active duty at Dover, I
see that they are given the highest respect. Some argue that the
pictures shouldn't be shown, I think they should. They serve as a
reminder of what we are sacrificing for freedom. They also show us
the
reality of war.
During my time in active duty at Dover, I would see many coming back
from all over the war. Some died in accidents, some in military
excerise, some in war. One thing we always did when a C-5 touched
ground, before we opened those doors, we would always bowed our
heads
in prayer, would hold a moment of silence and render a salute to
those
who gave the ultimate price.
Pat Tillman, although no different than anyone else serving, has
shown
us what true dedication is. He was not a selfish person, he was not
doing anything for show, he was simply doing his duty and in my
opinion he is an American hero in every sense of the word. We don't
see many like Pat Tillman, and I doubt he will ever be forgotten.
Pat Tillman may still serve his country. Perhaps people like you who
find glory and pride in fighting a war from their couch or while
failing to conserve the gas that fuels this war will finally make the
connection to him that you don't seem make with the average service
members when they are killed and maimed in such a futile and pointless
war. It is obvious that many people in this country today fail to
understand that these are not just numbers. These are real human
beings.
Perhaps people will start to see that these are real people out there
who are dying for Bush's pointless war that does not ensure security,
and actually does the opposite. His is a war meant to ensure the
future for, not the U.S., because that future is not endangered by
Iraq
or Afghanistan, but for companies like Cheney's Halliburton.
Many of us grieve for ALL those who die for the senseless and selfish
goal that defines our true purpose in the middle east. The Bush
Administration works hard to hide the bodies and mangled bodies from
us
by refusing to allow news agencies to cover that aspect of the war.
But for most of us, certainly those who spend more than a Fox Minute
thinking about the issue, we still recognize the true price being paid
by Americans and our Allies. For others, it requires a name, like Pat
Tillman.
Leaving the above as a good example of what kind of a person Barnes is
and
how low he is.
I make a post to tribute a man who served his country, and Barnes uses
this
post to take advantage
to make a political attack out of it instead.
You wrote the above to try to make yourself feel good about supporting
a policy that gets fine Americans killed for no reason.
Fighting against Al Queda in Afganistan was for no reason?
We aren't fighting Al Queda.
Pat Tillman
isn't you or George Bush, he is John Kerry. He volunteered for war,
like John Kerry. He was injured in war, like John Kerry. He didnšt
have to go to war due to his social position but felt a responsibility
to do so, like John Kerry.
But for pure unfortunate luck, he was killed while John Kerry was only
wounded. You attack John Kerry, a fine man who served his country and
is similar in character to Pat Tillman, but claim to admire Pat
Tillman due to your hatred of a political party. Pat Tillman fought
for something that people like you and George Bush can never
understand. Like John Kerry, Pat Tillman didn't have to go overseas to
fight for his country, like John Kerry, he CHOSE to do so. George
Bush, on the other hand, did everything he could to escape that
responsibility and now sends others to their death with little thought
or concern.
The fact that you support George Bush, the antithesis of Pat Tillman,
the fact that you tried to buttress your hatred through the blood of a
fine American, while attacking another fine American who was in the
near identical situation, says much about you. You would do well to
recognize just how much John Kerry is like Pat Tillman, and the
contrariety he represents to George Bush.
The fact that you taken a issue to try and make it political only goes to
show how
low you will resort
You brought it up, coward.
.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Pat Tillman - True American |
24 Apr 2004 07:18:43 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:240420041654420830%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com...
In article <8rmdnZibO-6VLxfdRVn-jw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:240420040742154440%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com...
In article <bq6dnU8Mabqh_hfdRVn-sw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:230420042243478960%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com...
In article <8912d58d.0404232049.4226e8cf@posting.google.com>,
osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
After hearing the news yesterday about the loss of Pat Tillman
and
reading about his history and decision to leave the NFL, a 3
million
dollar contract for a 18k a year job as an Army Ranger, I
couldn't
help but to think that this is someone that we could all look up
too.
Pat Tillman didn't care about the money, he cared about serving
his
country. How many others do we know that would give it all up
to
serve his or her country? I doubt there is a one of us in this
news
group that knows someone that would do that.
Pat Tillman reminded me of what dedication is all about.
When he left the NFL to serve his country, he declinded
interviews
because he knew what he wanted to do and didn't feel the need to
brag.
That man felt his job was to serve his country in battle, and
that
he
did with honor.
This isn't to mean that the loss of anyone else is any less
significant. They are all doing a job for their country. These
men
and
women volunteered and are facing the enemy.
As I see pictures of the bodies coming back to Dover A.F.B., a
scene
I
am only all to familiar with from my time on active duty at
Dover, I
see that they are given the highest respect. Some argue that
the
pictures shouldn't be shown, I think they should. They serve as
a
reminder of what we are sacrificing for freedom. They also show
us
the
reality of war.
During my time in active duty at Dover, I would see many coming
back
from all over the war. Some died in accidents, some in military
excerise, some in war. One thing we always did when a C-5
touched
ground, before we opened those doors, we would always bowed our
heads
in prayer, would hold a moment of silence and render a salute to
those
who gave the ultimate price.
Pat Tillman, although no different than anyone else serving, has
shown
us what true dedication is. He was not a selfish person, he was
not
doing anything for show, he was simply doing his duty and in my
opinion he is an American hero in every sense of the word. We
don't
see many like Pat Tillman, and I doubt he will ever be
forgotten.
Pat Tillman may still serve his country. Perhaps people like you
who
find glory and pride in fighting a war from their couch or while
failing to conserve the gas that fuels this war will finally make
the
connection to him that you don't seem make with the average
service
members when they are killed and maimed in such a futile and
pointless
war. It is obvious that many people in this country today fail to
understand that these are not just numbers. These are real human
beings.
Perhaps people will start to see that these are real people out
there
who are dying for Bush's pointless war that does not ensure
security,
and actually does the opposite. His is a war meant to ensure the
future for, not the U.S., because that future is not endangered by
Iraq
or Afghanistan, but for companies like Cheney's Halliburton.
Many of us grieve for ALL those who die for the senseless and
selfish
goal that defines our true purpose in the middle east. The Bush
Administration works hard to hide the bodies and mangled bodies
from
us
by refusing to allow news agencies to cover that aspect of the
war.
But for most of us, certainly those who spend more than a Fox
Minute
thinking about the issue, we still recognize the true price being
paid
by Americans and our Allies. For others, it requires a name, like
Pat
Tillman.
Leaving the above as a good example of what kind of a person Barnes
is
and
how low he is.
I make a post to tribute a man who served his country, and Barnes
uses
this
post to take advantage
to make a political attack out of it instead.
You wrote the above to try to make yourself feel good about supporting
a policy that gets fine Americans killed for no reason.
Fighting against Al Queda in Afganistan was for no reason?
We aren't fighting Al Queda.
We aren't? Who are we fighting in Afganistan?
Pat Tillman
isn't you or George Bush, he is John Kerry. He volunteered for war,
like John Kerry. He was injured in war, like John Kerry. He didnšt
have to go to war due to his social position but felt a responsibility
to do so, like John Kerry.
But for pure unfortunate luck, he was killed while John Kerry was only
wounded. You attack John Kerry, a fine man who served his country and
is similar in character to Pat Tillman, but claim to admire Pat
Tillman due to your hatred of a political party. Pat Tillman fought
for something that people like you and George Bush can never
understand. Like John Kerry, Pat Tillman didn't have to go overseas
to
fight for his country, like John Kerry, he CHOSE to do so. George
Bush, on the other hand, did everything he could to escape that
responsibility and now sends others to their death with little thought
or concern.
The fact that you support George Bush, the antithesis of Pat Tillman,
the fact that you tried to buttress your hatred through the blood of a
fine American, while attacking another fine American who was in the
near identical situation, says much about you. You would do well to
recognize just how much John Kerry is like Pat Tillman, and the
contrariety he represents to George Bush.
The fact that you taken a issue to try and make it political only goes
to
show how
low you will resort
You brought it up, coward.
I brought up a tribute to Pat Tillman
You tried to turn it into a political issue
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24 Apr 2004 07:31:45 PM |
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In article <oIWdnSixNptcnhbdRVn-uw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:240420041654420830%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com...
In article <8rmdnZibO-6VLxfdRVn-jw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:240420040742154440%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com...
In article <bq6dnU8Mabqh_hfdRVn-sw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:230420042243478960%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com...
In article <8912d58d.0404232049.4226e8cf@posting.google.com>,
osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
After hearing the news yesterday about the loss of Pat Tillman
and
reading about his history and decision to leave the NFL, a 3
million
dollar contract for a 18k a year job as an Army Ranger, I
couldn't
help but to think that this is someone that we could all look up
too.
Pat Tillman didn't care about the money, he cared about serving
his
country. How many others do we know that would give it all up
to
serve his or her country? I doubt there is a one of us in this
news
group that knows someone that would do that.
Pat Tillman reminded me of what dedication is all about.
When he left the NFL to serve his country, he declinded
interviews
because he knew what he wanted to do and didn't feel the need to
brag.
That man felt his job was to serve his country in battle, and
that
he
did with honor.
This isn't to mean that the loss of anyone else is any less
significant. They are all doing a job for their country. These
men
and
women volunteered and are facing the enemy.
As I see pictures of the bodies coming back to Dover A.F.B., a
scene
I
am only all to familiar with from my time on active duty at
Dover, I
see that they are given the highest respect. Some argue that
the
pictures shouldn't be shown, I think they should. They serve as
a
reminder of what we are sacrificing for freedom. They also show
us
the
reality of war.
During my time in active duty at Dover, I would see many coming
back
from all over the war. Some died in accidents, some in military
excerise, some in war. One thing we always did when a C-5
touched
ground, before we opened those doors, we would always bowed our
heads
in prayer, would hold a moment of silence and render a salute to
those
who gave the ultimate price.
Pat Tillman, although no different than anyone else serving, has
shown
us what true dedication is. He was not a selfish person, he was
not
doing anything for show, he was simply doing his duty and in my
opinion he is an American hero in every sense of the word. We
don't
see many like Pat Tillman, and I doubt he will ever be
forgotten.
Pat Tillman may still serve his country. Perhaps people like you
who
find glory and pride in fighting a war from their couch or while
failing to conserve the gas that fuels this war will finally make
the
connection to him that you don't seem make with the average
service
members when they are killed and maimed in such a futile and
pointless
war. It is obvious that many people in this country today fail to
understand that these are not just numbers. These are real human
beings.
Perhaps people will start to see that these are real people out
there
who are dying for Bush's pointless war that does not ensure
security,
and actually does the opposite. His is a war meant to ensure the
future for, not the U.S., because that future is not endangered by
Iraq
or Afghanistan, but for companies like Cheney's Halliburton.
Many of us grieve for ALL those who die for the senseless and
selfish
goal that defines our true purpose in the middle east. The Bush
Administration works hard to hide the bodies and mangled bodies
from
us
by refusing to allow news agencies to cover that aspect of the
war.
But for most of us, certainly those who spend more than a Fox
Minute
thinking about the issue, we still recognize the true price being
paid
by Americans and our Allies. For others, it requires a name, like
Pat
Tillman.
Leaving the above as a good example of what kind of a person Barnes
is
and
how low he is.
I make a post to tribute a man who served his country, and Barnes
uses
this
post to take advantage
to make a political attack out of it instead.
You wrote the above to try to make yourself feel good about supporting
a policy that gets fine Americans killed for no reason.
Fighting against Al Queda in Afganistan was for no reason?
We aren't fighting Al Queda.
We aren't? Who are we fighting in Afganistan?
Afghans. And the name of the country is "Afghanistan."
Pat Tillman
isn't you or George Bush, he is John Kerry. He volunteered for war,
like John Kerry. He was injured in war, like John Kerry. He didnšt
have to go to war due to his social position but felt a responsibility
to do so, like John Kerry.
But for pure unfortunate luck, he was killed while John Kerry was only
wounded. You attack John Kerry, a fine man who served his country and
is similar in character to Pat Tillman, but claim to admire Pat
Tillman due to your hatred of a political party. Pat Tillman fought
for something that people like you and George Bush can never
understand. Like John Kerry, Pat Tillman didn't have to go overseas
to
fight for his country, like John Kerry, he CHOSE to do so. George
Bush, on the other hand, did everything he could to escape that
responsibility and now sends others to their death with little thought
or concern.
The fact that you support George Bush, the antithesis of Pat Tillman,
the fact that you tried to buttress your hatred through the blood of a
fine American, while attacking another fine American who was in the
near identical situation, says much about you. You would do well to
recognize just how much John Kerry is like Pat Tillman, and the
contrariety he represents to George Bush.
The fact that you taken a issue to try and make it political only goes
to
show how
low you will resort
You brought it up, coward.
I brought up a tribute to Pat Tillman
Mine was a tribute, too.
You tried to turn it into a political issue
It is a political issue, dipshit.
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| User: "Emma Goldwoman" |
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04 May 2004 07:50:54 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message news:<240420040742154440%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com>...
You wrote the above to try to make yourself feel good about supporting
a policy that gets fine Americans killed for no reason. Pat Tillman
isn't you or George Bush, he is John Kerry. He volunteered for war,
like John Kerry. He was injured in war, like John Kerry. He didnšt
have to go to war due to his social position but felt a responsibility
to do so, like John Kerry. ...
"Writing in the San Francisco Chronicle Gwen Knapp reports Richard
Tillman, Pat's brother, taking offense at remarks that Pat Tillman was
now with God: 'Pat isn't with God. He's fucking dead. He wasn't
religious. So thank you for your thoughts, but he's fucking dead.' "
"Lisa Olson, in an article in the 4 May 2004 New York Daily News,
writes about the comments of Richard Tillman, 'At one point, Richard
burst forth with a stream-of-consciousness tribute, insisting Pat did
not believe in religion, that he was not with God, that he was just
dead. A war veteran standing not far from the stage bristled, while
others cheered.'"
Links to these stories are here:
http://www.humaniststudies.org/enews/index.html?id=135&lid=806#n1
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| User: "MyTwoAngels" |
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24 Apr 2004 08:17:06 AM |
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On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 08:53:36 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:230420042243478960%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com...
[...]
Pat Tillman may still serve his country. Perhaps people like you who
find glory and pride in fighting a war from their couch or while
failing to conserve the gas that fuels this war will finally make the
connection to him that you don't seem make with the average service
members when they are killed and maimed in such a futile and pointless
war. It is obvious that many people in this country today fail to
understand that these are not just numbers. These are real human
beings.
Perhaps people will start to see that these are real people out there
who are dying for Bush's pointless war that does not ensure security,
and actually does the opposite. His is a war meant to ensure the
future for, not the U.S., because that future is not endangered by Iraq
or Afghanistan, but for companies like Cheney's Halliburton.
Many of us grieve for ALL those who die for the senseless and selfish
goal that defines our true purpose in the middle east. The Bush
Administration works hard to hide the bodies and mangled bodies from us
by refusing to allow news agencies to cover that aspect of the war.
But for most of us, certainly those who spend more than a Fox Minute
thinking about the issue, we still recognize the true price being paid
by Americans and our Allies. For others, it requires a name, like Pat
Tillman.
Leaving the above as a good example of what kind of a person Barnes is and
how low he is.
I make a post to tribute a man who served his country,
And we're telling you that Tillman died in the name of greed. Shame,
too, because the poor young man thought he was fighting for his
country. I honour TILLMAN for his intentions, not for why Bush wanted
him and so many other like him to go to war.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Pat Tillman - True American |
24 Apr 2004 09:42:20 AM |
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In article <e2qk80d71vpb4r4o9od7dospto4t17s9gs@4ax.com>, MyTwoAngels
<krisblakemy2babies@xmsg.spamu.com> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 08:53:36 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:230420042243478960%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com...
[...]
Pat Tillman may still serve his country. Perhaps people like you who
find glory and pride in fighting a war from their couch or while
failing to conserve the gas that fuels this war will finally make the
connection to him that you don't seem make with the average service
members when they are killed and maimed in such a futile and pointless
war. It is obvious that many people in this country today fail to
understand that these are not just numbers. These are real human
beings.
Perhaps people will start to see that these are real people out there
who are dying for Bush's pointless war that does not ensure security,
and actually does the opposite. His is a war meant to ensure the
future for, not the U.S., because that future is not endangered by Iraq
or Afghanistan, but for companies like Cheney's Halliburton.
Many of us grieve for ALL those who die for the senseless and selfish
goal that defines our true purpose in the middle east. The Bush
Administration works hard to hide the bodies and mangled bodies from us
by refusing to allow news agencies to cover that aspect of the war.
But for most of us, certainly those who spend more than a Fox Minute
thinking about the issue, we still recognize the true price being paid
by Americans and our Allies. For others, it requires a name, like Pat
Tillman.
Leaving the above as a good example of what kind of a person Barnes is and
how low he is.
I make a post to tribute a man who served his country,
And we're telling you that Tillman died in the name of greed. Shame,
too, because the poor young man thought he was fighting for his
country. I honour TILLMAN for his intentions, not for why Bush wanted
him and so many other like him to go to war.
What I find fascinating is that Pat Tillman was so much like John
Kerry. Like Kerry, Tillman didn't need to fight. Like Kerry, Tillman
felt an obligation, one Bush ran from. Like Kerry, Tillman put his
country first. And like Kerry, Tillman was wounded due to his
gallantry. Finally, of course, like Kerry, Tillman was wounded in
action. Sadly, Tillman died of those wounds. But Heishman finds
Tillman worthy of a "tribute" while he spits on Kerry.
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| User: "MyTwoAngels" |
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24 Apr 2004 03:26:15 AM |
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On 23 Apr 2004 21:49:34 -0700, (osprey) wrote:
After hearing the news yesterday about the loss of Pat Tillman and
reading about his history and decision to leave the NFL, a 3 million
dollar contract for a 18k a year job as an Army Ranger, I couldn't
help but to think that this is someone that we could all look up too.
Pat Tillman didn't care about the money, he cared about serving his
country. How many others do we know that would give it all up to
serve his or her country? I doubt there is a one of us in this news
group that knows someone that would do that.
Pat Tillman reminded me of what dedication is all about.
In my opinion, that poor young man senselessly perrished in the name
of greed.
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| User: "Shawn Hearn" |
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| Title: Re: Pat Tillman - True American |
24 Apr 2004 08:02:57 AM |
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In article <v39k805bgrd1ocq8u9mmaidnaikl4jsu1t@4ax.com>,
MyTwoAngels <krisblakemy2babies@xmsg.com> wrote:
On 23 Apr 2004 21:49:34 -0700, (osprey) wrote:
After hearing the news yesterday about the loss of Pat Tillman and
reading about his history and decision to leave the NFL, a 3 million
dollar contract for a 18k a year job as an Army Ranger, I couldn't
help but to think that this is someone that we could all look up too.
Pat Tillman didn't care about the money, he cared about serving his
country. How many others do we know that would give it all up to
serve his or her country? I doubt there is a one of us in this news
group that knows someone that would do that.
Pat Tillman reminded me of what dedication is all about.
In my opinion, that poor young man senselessly perrished in the name
of greed.
I completely agree. I would love to see a law in this country that
before any politician can send troops to fight abroad, their own
family members must enlist in military and fight too. If Bush and those
in congress who supported going to war in Iraq knew that their sons and
daughters would have to go fight in Iraq, I wonder if they would have
sent others' children to do his bidding there.
Pat Tillman is a hero of the kind that Bush and the pro-war hawks in
congress can never understand.
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| User: "MyTwoAngels" |
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| Title: Re: Pat Tillman - True American |
24 Apr 2004 08:14:39 AM |
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On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 09:02:57 -0400, Shawn Hearn <srhi@comcast.net>
wrote:
In article <v39k805bgrd1ocq8u9mmaidnaikl4jsu1t@4ax.com>,
MyTwoAngels <krisblakemy2babies@xmsg.com> wrote:
On 23 Apr 2004 21:49:34 -0700, (osprey) wrote:
After hearing the news yesterday about the loss of Pat Tillman and
reading about his history and decision to leave the NFL, a 3 million
dollar contract for a 18k a year job as an Army Ranger, I couldn't
help but to think that this is someone that we could all look up too.
Pat Tillman didn't care about the money, he cared about serving his
country. How many others do we know that would give it all up to
serve his or her country? I doubt there is a one of us in this news
group that knows someone that would do that.
Pat Tillman reminded me of what dedication is all about.
In my opinion, that poor young man senselessly perrished in the name
of greed.
I completely agree. I would love to see a law in this country that
before any politician can send troops to fight abroad, their own
family members must enlist in military and fight too. If Bush and those
in congress who supported going to war in Iraq knew that their sons and
daughters would have to go fight in Iraq, I wonder if they would have
sent others' children to do his bidding there.
Pat Tillman is a hero of the kind that Bush and the pro-war hawks in
congress can never understand.
Now I completely aree with that!
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Pat Tillman - True American |
24 Apr 2004 03:00:09 PM |
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In article <01qk80tedeom6djtg81bc7iq8rg7mi51jn@4ax.com>, MyTwoAngels
<krisblakemy2babies@xmsg.spamu.com> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 09:02:57 -0400, Shawn Hearn <srhi@comcast.net>
wrote:
In article <v39k805bgrd1ocq8u9mmaidnaikl4jsu1t@4ax.com>,
MyTwoAngels <krisblakemy2babies@xmsg.com> wrote:
On 23 Apr 2004 21:49:34 -0700, (osprey) wrote:
After hearing the news yesterday about the loss of Pat Tillman and
reading about his history and decision to leave the NFL, a 3 million
dollar contract for a 18k a year job as an Army Ranger, I couldn't
help but to think that this is someone that we could all look up too.
Pat Tillman didn't care about the money, he cared about serving his
country. How many others do we know that would give it all up to
serve his or her country? I doubt there is a one of us in this news
group that knows someone that would do that.
Pat Tillman reminded me of what dedication is all about.
In my opinion, that poor young man senselessly perrished in the name
of greed.
I completely agree. I would love to see a law in this country that
before any politician can send troops to fight abroad, their own
family members must enlist in military and fight too. If Bush and those
in congress who supported going to war in Iraq knew that their sons and
daughters would have to go fight in Iraq, I wonder if they would have
sent others' children to do his bidding there.
Pat Tillman is a hero of the kind that Bush and the pro-war hawks in
congress can never understand.
Now I completely aree with that!
And perhaps not surprisingly, it is unusual for those hawks to actually
serve their county. And you should hear their excuses!
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Pat Tillman - True American |
24 Apr 2004 03:15:17 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:240420041300094916%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com...
In article <01qk80tedeom6djtg81bc7iq8rg7mi51jn@4ax.com>, MyTwoAngels
<krisblakemy2babies@xmsg.spamu.com> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 09:02:57 -0400, Shawn Hearn <srhi@comcast.net>
wrote:
In article <v39k805bgrd1ocq8u9mmaidnaikl4jsu1t@4ax.com>,
MyTwoAngels <krisblakemy2babies@xmsg.com> wrote:
On 23 Apr 2004 21:49:34 -0700, (osprey) wrote:
After hearing the news yesterday about the loss of Pat Tillman and
reading about his history and decision to leave the NFL, a 3 million
dollar contract for a 18k a year job as an Army Ranger, I couldn't
help but to think that this is someone that we could all look up
too.
Pat Tillman didn't care about the money, he cared about serving his
country. How many others do we know that would give it all up to
serve his or her country? I doubt there is a one of us in this news
group that knows someone that would do that.
Pat Tillman reminded me of what dedication is all about.
In my opinion, that poor young man senselessly perrished in the name
of greed.
I completely agree. I would love to see a law in this country that
before any politician can send troops to fight abroad, their own
family members must enlist in military and fight too. If Bush and those
in congress who supported going to war in Iraq knew that their sons and
daughters would have to go fight in Iraq, I wonder if they would have
sent others' children to do his bidding there.
Pat Tillman is a hero of the kind that Bush and the pro-war hawks in
congress can never understand.
Now I completely aree with that!
And perhaps not surprisingly, it is unusual for those hawks to actually
serve their county. And you should hear their excuses!
There is nothing unusual about it, most of your people who do serve are or
become republican. Something Democrats can't handle.
I served, many of my friends who served are Republican. If I did know a
Democrat in the military they were a Dixie Bluedog Democrat and not
a left wing socialist like yourself who loathes the military and the people
who do serve and uses military deaths as a political tool.
You didn't serve, but lie about it.
Oh by the way, how is that marriage certificate you got in S.F. holding out?
Is it still binding?
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Pat Tillman - True American |
24 Apr 2004 06:54:43 PM |
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In article <UoadnYdcEewxVxfdRVn-vA@comcast.com>, Osprey
<> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:240420041300094916%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com...
In article <01qk80tedeom6djtg81bc7iq8rg7mi51jn@4ax.com>, MyTwoAngels
<krisblakemy2babies@xmsg.spamu.com> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 09:02:57 -0400, Shawn Hearn <srhi@comcast.net>
wrote:
In article <v39k805bgrd1ocq8u9mmaidnaikl4jsu1t@4ax.com>,
MyTwoAngels <krisblakemy2babies@xmsg.com> wrote:
On 23 Apr 2004 21:49:34 -0700, (osprey) wrote:
After hearing the news yesterday about the loss of Pat Tillman and
reading about his history and decision to leave the NFL, a 3 million
dollar contract for a 18k a year job as an Army Ranger, I couldn't
help but to think that this is someone that we could all look up
too.
Pat Tillman didn't care about the money, he cared about serving his
country. How many others do we know that would give it all up to
serve his or her country? I doubt there is a one of us in this news
group that knows someone that would do that.
Pat Tillman reminded me of what dedication is all about.
In my opinion, that poor young man senselessly perrished in the name
of greed.
I completely agree. I would love to see a law in this country that
before any politician can send troops to fight abroad, their own
family members must enlist in military and fight too. If Bush and those
in congress who supported going to war in Iraq knew that their sons and
daughters would have to go fight in Iraq, I wonder if they would have
sent others' children to do his bidding there.
Pat Tillman is a hero of the kind that Bush and the pro-war hawks in
congress can never understand.
Now I completely aree with that!
And perhaps not surprisingly, it is unusual for those hawks to actually
serve their county. And you should hear their excuses!
There is nothing unusual about it, most of your people who do serve are or
become republican. Something Democrats can't handle.
LOL! Just the opposite, chicken hawk. And, as usual, I prove it:
http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html
I served, many of my friends who served are Republican.
All you did was arrange for the government to take care of you.
If I did know a
Democrat in the military they were a Dixie Bluedog Democrat and not
a left wing socialist like yourself who loathes the military and the people
who do serve and uses military deaths as a political tool.
You didn't serve, but lie about it.
Once again proving you talk through you *****.
Oh by the way, how is that marriage certificate you got in S.F. holding out?
Is it still binding?
Childish.... Your ugly little children must be so proud....
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| User: "MyTwoAngels" |
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24 Apr 2004 07:06:47 PM |
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On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 16:54:43 -0700, "David W. Barnes"
<VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote:
In article <UoadnYdcEewxVxfdRVn-vA@comcast.com>, Osprey
< > wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:240420041300094916%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com...
In article <01qk80tedeom6djtg81bc7iq8rg7mi51jn@4ax.com>, MyTwoAngels
<krisblakemy2babies@xmsg.spamu.com> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 09:02:57 -0400, Shawn Hearn <srhi@comcast.net>
wrote:
In article <v39k805bgrd1ocq8u9mmaidnaikl4jsu1t@4ax.com>,
MyTwoAngels <krisblakemy2babies@xmsg.com> wrote:
On 23 Apr 2004 21:49:34 -0700, (osprey) wrote:
After hearing the news yesterday about the loss of Pat Tillman and
reading about his history and decision to leave the NFL, a 3 million
dollar contract for a 18k a year job as an Army Ranger, I couldn't
help but to think that this is someone that we could all look up
too.
Pat Tillman didn't care about the money, he cared about serving his
country. How many others do we know that would give it all up to
serve his or her country? I doubt there is a one of us in this news
group that knows someone that would do that.
Pat Tillman reminded me of what dedication is all about.
In my opinion, that poor young man senselessly perrished in the name
of greed.
I completely agree. I would love to see a law in this country that
before any politician can send troops to fight abroad, their own
family members must enlist in military and fight too. If Bush and those
in congress who supported going to war in Iraq knew that their sons and
daughters would have to go fight in Iraq, I wonder if they would have
sent others' children to do his bidding there.
Pat Tillman is a hero of the kind that Bush and the pro-war hawks in
congress can never understand.
Now I completely aree with that!
And perhaps not surprisingly, it is unusual for those hawks to actually
serve their county. And you should hear their excuses!
There is nothing unusual about it, most of your people who do serve are or
become republican. Something Democrats can't handle.
LOL! Just the opposite, chicken hawk. And, as usual, I prove it:
http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html
I served, many of my friends who served are Republican.
All you did was arrange for the government to take care of you.
If I did know a
Democrat in the military they were a Dixie Bluedog Democrat and not
a left wing socialist like yourself who loathes the military and the people
who do serve and uses military deaths as a political tool.
You didn't serve, but lie about it.
Once again proving you talk through you *****.
Oh by the way, how is that marriage certificate you got in S.F. holding out?
Is it still binding?
Childish.... Your ugly little children must be so proud....
I am sure his ex-wife(ives) are, too.
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25 Apr 2004 12:30:13 AM |
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In article <280m80d2suq1r5odmni0aulilvla4qubbs@4ax.com>, MyTwoAngels
<krisblakemy2babies@xmsg.spamu.com> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 16:54:43 -0700, "David W. Barnes"
<VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote:
In article <UoadnYdcEewxVxfdRVn-vA@comcast.com>, Osprey
< > wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:240420041300094916%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com...
In article <01qk80tedeom6djtg81bc7iq8rg7mi51jn@4ax.com>, MyTwoAngels
<krisblakemy2babies@xmsg.spamu.com> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 09:02:57 -0400, Shawn Hearn <srhi@comcast.net>
wrote:
In article <v39k805bgrd1ocq8u9mmaidnaikl4jsu1t@4ax.com>,
MyTwoAngels <krisblakemy2babies@xmsg.com> wrote:
On 23 Apr 2004 21:49:34 -0700, (osprey) wrote:
After hearing the news yesterday about the loss of Pat Tillman and
reading about his history and decision to leave the NFL, a 3
million
dollar contract for a 18k a year job as an Army Ranger, I couldn't
help but to think that this is someone that we could all look up
too.
Pat Tillman didn't care about the money, he cared about serving his
country. How many others do we know that would give it all up to
serve his or her country? I doubt there is a one of us in this
news
group that knows someone that would do that.
Pat Tillman reminded me of what dedication is all about.
In my opinion, that poor young man senselessly perrished in the name
of greed.
I completely agree. I would love to see a law in this country that
before any politician can send troops to fight abroad, their own
family members must enlist in military and fight too. If Bush and
those
in congress who supported going to war in Iraq knew that their sons
and
daughters would have to go fight in Iraq, I wonder if they would have
sent others' children to do his bidding there.
Pat Tillman is a hero of the kind that Bush and the pro-war hawks in
congress can never understand.
Now I completely aree with that!
And perhaps not surprisingly, it is unusual for those hawks to actually
serve their county. And you should hear their excuses!
There is nothing unusual about it, most of your people who do serve are or
become republican. Something Democrats can't handle.
LOL! Just the opposite, chicken hawk. And, as usual, I prove it:
http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html
I served, many of my friends who served are Republican.
All you did was arrange for the government to take care of you.
If I did know a
Democrat in the military they were a Dixie Bluedog Democrat and not
a left wing socialist like yourself who loathes the military and the people
who do serve and uses military deaths as a political tool.
You didn't serve, but lie about it.
Once again proving you talk through you *****.
Oh by the way, how is that marriage certificate you got in S.F. holding out?
Is it still binding?
Childish.... Your ugly little children must be so proud....
I am sure his ex-wife(ives) are, too.
Actually, I apologize for the "ugly little children" remark. It was a
moment of weakness. They shouldn't suffer for who he is. I suspect
they already carry a huge burden because of him.
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| User: "MyTwoAngels" |
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| Title: Re: Pat Tillman - True American |
25 Apr 2004 05:12:13 AM |
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On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 22:30:13 -0700, "David W. Barnes"
<VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote:
In article <280m80d2suq1r5odmni0aulilvla4qubbs@4ax.com>, MyTwoAngels
<krisblakemy2babies@xmsg.spamu.com> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 16:54:43 -0700, "David W. Barnes"
<VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote:
In article <UoadnYdcEewxVxfdRVn-vA@comcast.com>, Osprey
< > wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:240420041300094916%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com...
In article <01qk80tedeom6djtg81bc7iq8rg7mi51jn@4ax.com>, MyTwoAngels
<krisblakemy2babies@xmsg.spamu.com> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 09:02:57 -0400, Shawn Hearn <srhi@comcast.net>
wrote:
In article <v39k805bgrd1ocq8u9mmaidnaikl4jsu1t@4ax.com>,
MyTwoAngels <krisblakemy2babies@xmsg.com> wrote:
On 23 Apr 2004 21:49:34 -0700, (osprey) wrote:
After hearing the news yesterday about the loss of Pat Tillman and
reading about his history and decision to leave the NFL, a 3
million
dollar contract for a 18k a year job as an Army Ranger, I couldn't
help but to think that this is someone that we could all look up
too.
Pat Tillman didn't care about the money, he cared about serving his
country. How many others do we know that would give it all up to
serve his or her country? I doubt there is a one of us in this
news
group that knows someone that would do that.
Pat Tillman reminded me of what dedication is all about.
In my opinion, that poor young man senselessly perrished in the name
of greed.
I completely agree. I would love to see a law in this country that
before any politician can send troops to fight abroad, their own
family members must enlist in military and fight too. If Bush and
those
in congress who supported going to war in Iraq knew that their sons
and
daughters would have to go fight in Iraq, I wonder if they would have
sent others' children to do his bidding there.
Pat Tillman is a hero of the kind that Bush and the pro-war hawks in
congress can never understand.
Now I completely aree with that!
And perhaps not surprisingly, it is unusual for those hawks to actually
serve their county. And you should hear their excuses!
There is nothing unusual about it, most of your people who do serve are or
become republican. Something Democrats can't handle.
LOL! Just the opposite, chicken hawk. And, as usual, I prove it:
http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html
I served, many of my friends who served are Republican.
All you did was arrange for the government to take care of you.
If I did know a
Democrat in the military they were a Dixie Bluedog Democrat and not
a left wing socialist like yourself who loathes the military and the people
who do serve and uses military deaths as a political tool.
You didn't serve, but lie about it.
Once again proving you talk through you *****.
Oh by the way, how is that marriage certificate you got in S.F. holding out?
Is it still binding?
Childish.... Your ugly little children must be so proud....
I am sure his ex-wife(ives) are, too.
Actually, I apologize for the "ugly little children" remark.
I thought that remark was out of character for you.
It was a
moment of weakness.
Well, look at the ***** he posts - I cannot say that I blame you,
because I don't.
They shouldn't suffer for who he is. I suspect
they already carry a huge burden because of him.
There's the unfortunate possibly that is already the case.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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24 Apr 2004 11:02:45 PM |
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
And perhaps not surprisingly, it is unusual for those hawks to actually
serve their county. And you should hear their excuses!
There is nothing unusual about it, most of your people who do serve are or
become republican.
Heishman, you're full of *****. A lying bigot.
I served,
Crap.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "osprey" |
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24 Apr 2004 06:10:14 PM |
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Shawn Hearn <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<srhi-6F56F1.09025724042004@news-60.giganews.com>...
In article <v39k805bgrd1ocq8u9mmaidnaikl4jsu1t@4ax.com>,
MyTwoAngels <krisblakemy2babies@xmsg.com> wrote:
On 23 Apr 2004 21:49:34 -0700, (osprey) wrote:
After hearing the news yesterday about the loss of Pat Tillman and
reading about his history and decision to leave the NFL, a 3 million
dollar contract for a 18k a year job as an Army Ranger, I couldn't
help but to think that this is someone that we could all look up too.
Pat Tillman didn't care about the money, he cared about serving his
country. How many others do we know that would give it all up to
serve his or her country? I doubt there is a one of us in this news
group that knows someone that would do that.
Pat Tillman reminded me of what dedication is all about.
In my opinion, that poor young man senselessly perrished in the name
of greed.
I completely agree. I would love to see a law in this country that
before any politician can send troops to fight abroad, their own
family members must enlist in military and fight too. If Bush and those
in congress who supported going to war in Iraq knew that their sons and
daughters would have to go fight in Iraq, I wonder if they would have
sent others' children to do his bidding there.
Pat Tillman is a hero of the kind that Bush and the pro-war hawks in
congress can never understand.
Actually Shawn, I would have to say that I agree partially with what
you said.
Not that you will ever acknowledge that, but I do agree that these
politicians shouldn't be able to give their sons or daughters special
protection.
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| User: "Shawn Hearn" |
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| Title: Re: Pat Tillman - True American |
25 Apr 2004 07:41:59 AM |
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In article <8912d58d.0404241510.260b7fe7@posting.google.com>,
(osprey) wrote:
Shawn Hearn <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<srhi-6F56F1.09025724042004@news-60.giganews.com>...
In article <v39k805bgrd1ocq8u9mmaidnaikl4jsu1t@4ax.com>,
MyTwoAngels <krisblakemy2babies@xmsg.com> wrote:
On 23 Apr 2004 21:49:34 -0700, (osprey) wrote:
After hearing the news yesterday about the loss of Pat Tillman and
reading about his history and decision to leave the NFL, a 3 million
dollar contract for a 18k a year job as an Army Ranger, I couldn't
help but to think that this is someone that we could all look up too.
Pat Tillman didn't care about the money, he cared about serving his
country. How many others do we know that would give it all up to
serve his or her country? I doubt there is a one of us in this news
group that knows someone that would do that.
Pat Tillman reminded me of what dedication is all about.
In my opinion, that poor young man senselessly perrished in the name
of greed.
I completely agree. I would love to see a law in this country that
before any politician can send troops to fight abroad, their own
family members must enlist in military and fight too. If Bush and those
in congress who supported going to war in Iraq knew that their sons and
daughters would have to go fight in Iraq, I wonder if they would have
sent others' children to do his bidding there.
Pat Tillman is a hero of the kind that Bush and the pro-war hawks in
congress can never understand.
Actually Shawn, I would have to say that I agree partially with what
you said.
Not that you will ever acknowledge that, but I do agree that these
politicians shouldn't be able to give their sons or daughters special
protection.
So then why are Bush's children gallavanting around drinking while
their father sends others' children off to fight in Iraq?
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| User: "Osprey" |
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25 Apr 2004 07:52:00 AM |
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"Shawn Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-673E17.08415925042004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <8912d58d.0404241510.260b7fe7@posting.google.com>,
(osprey) wrote:
Shawn Hearn <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<srhi-6F56F1.09025724042004@news-60.giganews.com>...
In article <v39k805bgrd1ocq8u9mmaidnaikl4jsu1t@4ax.com>,
MyTwoAngels <krisblakemy2babies@xmsg.com> wrote:
On 23 Apr 2004 21:49:34 -0700, (osprey) wrote:
After hearing the news yesterday about the loss of Pat Tillman and
reading about his history and decision to leave the NFL, a 3
million
dollar contract for a 18k a year job as an Army Ranger, I couldn't
help but to think that this is someone that we could all look up
too.
Pat Tillman didn't care about the money, he cared about serving his
country. How many others do we know that would give it all up to
serve his or her country? I doubt there is a one of us in this
news
group that knows someone that would do that.
Pat Tillman reminded me of what dedication is all about.
In my opinion, that poor young man senselessly perrished in the name
of greed.
I completely agree. I would love to see a law in this country that
before any politician can send troops to fight abroad, their own
family members must enlist in military and fight too. If Bush and
those
in congress who supported going to war in Iraq knew that their sons
and
daughters would have to go fight in Iraq, I wonder if they would have
sent others' children to do his bidding there.
Pat Tillman is a hero of the kind that Bush and the pro-war hawks in
congress can never understand.
Actually Shawn, I would have to say that I agree partially with what
you said.
Not that you will ever acknowledge that, but I do agree that these
politicians shouldn't be able to give their sons or daughters special
protection.
So then why are Bush's children gallavanting around drinking while
their father sends others' children off to fight in Iraq?
I don't know, maybe the same reason Gore's kids were getting busted for dope
and drinking too...
All I was saying was I agreed with your post.
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25 Apr 2004 10:25:44 AM |
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In article <A6KdnUK984LIKRbdRVn-sw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<> wrote:
"Shawn Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-673E17.08415925042004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <8912d58d.0404241510.260b7fe7@posting.google.com>,
(osprey) wrote:
Shawn Hearn <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<srhi-6F56F1.09025724042004@news-60.giganews.com>...
In article <v39k805bgrd1ocq8u9mmaidnaikl4jsu1t@4ax.com>,
MyTwoAngels <krisblakemy2babies@xmsg.com> wrote:
On 23 Apr 2004 21:49:34 -0700, (osprey) wrote:
After hearing the news yesterday about the loss of Pat Tillman and
reading about his history and decision to leave the NFL, a 3
million
dollar contract for a 18k a year job as an Army Ranger, I couldn't
help but to think that this is someone that we could all look up
too.
Pat Tillman didn't care about the money, he cared about serving his
country. How many others do we know that would give it all up to
serve his or her country? I doubt there is a one of us in this
news
group that knows someone that would do that.
Pat Tillman reminded me of what dedication is all about.
In my opinion, that poor young man senselessly perrished in the name
of greed.
I completely agree. I would love to see a law in this country that
before any politician can send troops to fight abroad, their own
family members must enlist in military and fight too. If Bush and
those
in congress who supported going to war in Iraq knew that their sons
and
daughters would have to go fight in Iraq, I wonder if they would have
sent others' children to do his bidding there.
Pat Tillman is a hero of the kind that Bush and the pro-war hawks in
congress can never understand.
Actually Shawn, I would have to say that I agree partially with what
you said.
Not that you will ever acknowledge that, but I do agree that these
politicians shouldn't be able to give their sons or daughters special
protection.
So then why are Bush's children gallavanting around drinking while
their father sends others' children off to fight in Iraq?
I don't know, maybe the same reason Gore's kids were getting busted for dope
and drinking too...
We weren't invading Iraq when Gore was VP. Both Clinton and Gore were
secure enough in their abilities that they didn't need to do the macho
thing.
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