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Topic: Science > Abortion
User: "Yang, AthD h.c"
Date: 08 Jul 2004 08:14:18 PM
Object: Poll: Bush Lied
Washington, DC, Jul. 1 (UPI) -- A majority of Americans believe
President Bush deliberately misled his nation to justify invading
Iraq, a survey released Thursday indicates.
The latest NBC/Wall Street Journal poll, released four months before
the presidential elections, points out most Americans believe their
nation is headed in the wrong direction.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Socerey Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -877 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
.

User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Bush Lied 11 Jul 2004 12:15:34 AM
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message

Osprey

"Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote in message

Fox News is the most objective news source on television.


They can't stand that little fact


If you believe Fox "NEWS" is anything more than a daily Right Wing
version of Michael Moore's Movies, you are brain dead.

Studies prove it to be Right Wing propaganda, and the LEAST informative
and LEAST accurate of all popular news sources.


Take your slanted studies and shove them up your *****.

That's what ***** thinks of the truth.

Fox News is the highest rated news show on television.

Hitler was popular too.
And for the same reasons.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.

User: "Somesappywriter"

Title: Re: Bush Lied 10 Jul 2004 08:28:18 PM
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 21:22:49 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote in message
news:Du0Ic.10626$sD4.1093@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...


"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720041143184015%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...


It sounds like the propaganda put out by Fox "NEWS"


Fox News is the most objective news source on television.


They can't stand that little fact

LOL! What facts?
.

User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Bush Lied 10 Jul 2004 08:27:38 PM
In article <Du0Ic.10626$sD4.1093@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
Steven P. McNicoll <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720041143184015%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...


It sounds like the propaganda put out by Fox "NEWS"


Fox News is the most objective news source on television.

ROFL!!!! I hope you don't really believe that. Name a liberal on Fox
NEWS.
.
User: "Steven P. McNicoll"

Title: Re: Bush Lied 10 Jul 2004 10:02:17 PM
"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720041827387312%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...


ROFL!!!! I hope you don't really believe that. Name a liberal on Fox
NEWS.

Alan Colmes
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Bush Lied 10 Jul 2004 10:34:33 PM
In article <Z42Ic.11098$sD4.571@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
Steven P. McNicoll <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720041827387312%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...


ROFL!!!! I hope you don't really believe that. Name a liberal on Fox
NEWS.


Alan Colmes

I figured you'd say that. Alan Colmes is a self described centrist.
That is what Fox News claims is a "liberal."
Here are example of how Fox "NEWS" is fair and balanced:
"Coming next, drug addicted pregnant women no longer have anything to
fear from the authorities thanks to the Supreme Court. Both sides on
this in a moment."
--Bill O'Reilly (O'Reilly Factor, 3/23/01)
"Who would be the most likely to cheat at cards-- Bill Clinton or Al
Gore?"
--Fox News Channel/Opinion Dynamics poll (5/00)
"I think what's going on is the Democratic lawyers have flooded
Florida. They are afraid of George W. Bush becoming president and
instituting tort reform and their gravy train will be over. This is the
trial association's full court press to make sure Bush does not win."
--Fox News Channel anchor John Gibson (12/9/00)
.
User: "Steven P. McNicoll"

Title: Re: Bush Lied 11 Jul 2004 08:15:54 AM
"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720042034335351%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...


I figured you'd say that.

Then why'd you ask?


Alan Colmes is a self described centrist.

Many liberals describe themselves as centrists.
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Bush Lied 11 Jul 2004 11:21:42 AM
In article <e4bIc.11969$sD4.6447@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
Steven P. McNicoll <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720042034335351%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...


I figured you'd say that.


Then why'd you ask?

I like watching conservatives make fools of themselves. They are good
at it.




Alan Colmes is a self described centrist.


Many liberals describe themselves as centrists.

More logic from the Right. And many racists are Republicans, so I
guess Bush is a racist, correct, Mr. Logic?
.




User: "Pookie"

Title: Re: Bush Lied 10 Jul 2004 09:12:34 PM
"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720041827387312%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <Du0Ic.10626$sD4.1093@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
Steven P. McNicoll <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720041143184015%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...


It sounds like the propaganda put out by Fox "NEWS"


Fox News is the most objective news source on television.



ROFL!!!! I hope you don't really believe that. Name a liberal on Fox
NEWS.

Alan Colmes, Neal Gabler, Jane Hall, Mort Kondracke, Juan Williams, Mara
Liasson, Geraldo Rivera...
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Bush Lied 10 Jul 2004 09:37:33 PM
In article <mm1Ic.7968$JW6.3560381@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, Pookie
<pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720041827387312%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <Du0Ic.10626$sD4.1093@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
Steven P. McNicoll <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720041143184015%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...


It sounds like the propaganda put out by Fox "NEWS"


Fox News is the most objective news source on television.



ROFL!!!! I hope you don't really believe that. Name a liberal on Fox
NEWS.


Alan Colmes, Neal Gabler, Jane Hall, Mort Kondracke, Juan Williams, Mara
Liasson, Geraldo Rivera...

Alan Colmes is a self described centrist, Neal Gabler is a film critic
for Christ's sake, Jane Hall is an occasional guest, Mort Kondracke is
a centrist that leans right, Juan Williams is merely a guest, Mara
Liasson is a centrist, and Geraldo Rivera used to be a liberal, but
like the yellow belly ***** he proved to be, he blows with the wInd.
he is no liberal. (But I'll bet you goofs actually believe these
people are liberals. You don't know what a liberal is.)
There is an organization out there called FAIR. (Fairness & Accuracy
In Reporting). They are a national media watch group, has been
offering well-documented criticism of media bias and censorship since
1986. They constantly criticize the so called "liberal" news resources
when they are inaccurate. Here is what they say about FOX "NEWS."
http://www.fair.org/reports/fox.html
Here is an example of the "Fair and Balanced" news:
"Coming next, drug addicted pregnant women no longer have anything to
fear from the authorities thanks to the Supreme Court. Both sides on
this in a moment."
--Bill O'Reilly (O'Reilly Factor, 3/23/01)
And I love this:
"Who would be the most likely to cheat at cards-- Bill Clinton or Al
Gore?"
--Fox News Channel/Opinion Dynamics poll (5/00)
FAIR studied 19 weeks of Special Report with Brit Hume
(1/1/01-5/11/01), which Fox calls its signature political news show
looking specifically at the show's daily one-on-one newsmaker
interviews conducted by the show's anchor.
65 of the 92 guests (71 percent) were avowed conservatives--that is,
conservatives outnumbered representatives of all other points of view,
including non-political guests, by a factor of more than 2 to 1
Of the 56 partisan guests on Special Report between January and May, 50
were Republicans and six were Democrats -- a greater than 8 to 1
imbalance. In other words, 89 percent of guests with a party
affiliation were Republicans.
.
User: "Steven P. McNicoll"

Title: Re: Bush Lied 11 Jul 2004 01:13:59 AM
"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720041937339045%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...


Alan Colmes is a self described centrist,

Many liberals describe themselves as centrists.
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Bush Lied 11 Jul 2004 11:21:40 AM
In article <HU4Ic.11747$sD4.6613@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
Steven P. McNicoll <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720041937339045%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...


Alan Colmes is a self described centrist,


Many liberals describe themselves as centrists.

LOL! Very logical.
Dogs are animals, does that mean all animals are dogs?
.


User: "Pookie"

Title: Re: Bush Lied 11 Jul 2004 05:53:46 AM
"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720041937339045%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <mm1Ic.7968$JW6.3560381@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, Pookie
<pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720041827387312%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <Du0Ic.10626$sD4.1093@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
Steven P. McNicoll <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720041143184015%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...


It sounds like the propaganda put out by Fox "NEWS"


Fox News is the most objective news source on television.



ROFL!!!! I hope you don't really believe that. Name a liberal on Fox
NEWS.


Alan Colmes, Neal Gabler, Jane Hall, Mort Kondracke, Juan Williams, Mara
Liasson, Geraldo Rivera...


Alan Colmes is a self described centrist, Neal Gabler is a film critic
for Christ's sake, Jane Hall is an occasional guest, Mort Kondracke is
a centrist that leans right, Juan Williams is merely a guest, Mara
Liasson is a centrist, and Geraldo Rivera used to be a liberal, but
like the yellow belly ***** he proved to be, he blows with the wInd.
he is no liberal. (But I'll bet you goofs actually believe these
people are liberals. You don't know what a liberal is.)

There is an organization out there called FAIR. (Fairness & Accuracy
In Reporting). They are a national media watch group, has been
offering well-documented criticism of media bias and censorship since
1986. They constantly criticize the so called "liberal" news resources
when they are inaccurate. Here is what they say about FOX "NEWS."

FAIR is a leftist group...what did you expect from them...oh, never
mind...you'll say that FAIR is fair & balanced.
Alan Colmes is a self-described liberal & he says so several times weekly.
Neal Gabler & Jane Hall are liberals & regulars on Fox News Watch. Juan
Williams is a liberal who is a regular on Fox News Sunday. Mara Liasson is a
liberal from PBS who is a regular on Special Report & Fox News Sunday...
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Bush Lied 11 Jul 2004 11:21:41 AM
In article <__8Ic.14997$JW6.4869609@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, Pookie
<pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720041937339045%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <mm1Ic.7968$JW6.3560381@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, Pookie
<pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720041827387312%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <Du0Ic.10626$sD4.1093@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
Steven P. McNicoll <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720041143184015%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...


It sounds like the propaganda put out by Fox "NEWS"


Fox News is the most objective news source on television.



ROFL!!!! I hope you don't really believe that. Name a liberal on Fox
NEWS.


Alan Colmes, Neal Gabler, Jane Hall, Mort Kondracke, Juan Williams, Mara
Liasson, Geraldo Rivera...


Alan Colmes is a self described centrist, Neal Gabler is a film critic
for Christ's sake, Jane Hall is an occasional guest, Mort Kondracke is
a centrist that leans right, Juan Williams is merely a guest, Mara
Liasson is a centrist, and Geraldo Rivera used to be a liberal, but
like the yellow belly ***** he proved to be, he blows with the wInd.
he is no liberal. (But I'll bet you goofs actually believe these
people are liberals. You don't know what a liberal is.)

There is an organization out there called FAIR. (Fairness & Accuracy
In Reporting). They are a national media watch group, has been
offering well-documented criticism of media bias and censorship since
1986. They constantly criticize the so called "liberal" news resources
when they are inaccurate. Here is what they say about FOX "NEWS."


FAIR is a leftist group...what did you expect from them...oh, never
mind...you'll say that FAIR is fair & balanced.

Of Course! If they say something you don't like, LIE ABOUT THEM.


Alan Colmes is a self-described liberal & he says so several times weekly.

He does now.

Neal Gabler & Jane Hall are liberals & regulars on Fox News Watch. Juan
Williams is a liberal who is a regular on Fox News Sunday. Mara Liasson is a
liberal from PBS who is a regular on Special Report & Fox News Sunday...

If you, or ANYONE thinks that Fox "NEWS" isn't BIASED, you are nothing
but a moron - pure and simple. It isn't even a close call. It is like
arguing that George W. Bush is really a very good speaker. Stop
trying. It is a loser argument and EVERYONE knows it. The question
is, "Will you admit it?"
.
User: "Pookie"

Title: Re: Bush Lied 11 Jul 2004 11:45:52 AM
"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:110720040921416691%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <__8Ic.14997$JW6.4869609@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, Pookie
<pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720041937339045%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <mm1Ic.7968$JW6.3560381@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, Pookie
<pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720041827387312%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article

<Du0Ic.10626$sD4.1093@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,

Steven P. McNicoll <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720041143184015%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...


It sounds like the propaganda put out by Fox "NEWS"


Fox News is the most objective news source on television.



ROFL!!!! I hope you don't really believe that. Name a liberal on

Fox

NEWS.


Alan Colmes, Neal Gabler, Jane Hall, Mort Kondracke, Juan Williams,

Mara

Liasson, Geraldo Rivera...


Alan Colmes is a self described centrist, Neal Gabler is a film critic
for Christ's sake, Jane Hall is an occasional guest, Mort Kondracke is
a centrist that leans right, Juan Williams is merely a guest, Mara
Liasson is a centrist, and Geraldo Rivera used to be a liberal, but
like the yellow belly ***** he proved to be, he blows with the wInd.
he is no liberal. (But I'll bet you goofs actually believe these
people are liberals. You don't know what a liberal is.)

There is an organization out there called FAIR. (Fairness & Accuracy
In Reporting). They are a national media watch group, has been
offering well-documented criticism of media bias and censorship since
1986. They constantly criticize the so called "liberal" news

resources

when they are inaccurate. Here is what they say about FOX "NEWS."


FAIR is a leftist group...what did you expect from them...oh, never
mind...you'll say that FAIR is fair & balanced.


Of Course! If they say something you don't like, LIE ABOUT THEM.


Alan Colmes is a self-described liberal & he says so several times

weekly.


He does now.

Neal Gabler & Jane Hall are liberals & regulars on Fox News Watch. Juan
Williams is a liberal who is a regular on Fox News Sunday. Mara Liasson

is a

liberal from PBS who is a regular on Special Report & Fox News Sunday...


If you, or ANYONE thinks that Fox "NEWS" isn't BIASED, you are nothing
but a moron - pure and simple. It isn't even a close call. It is like
arguing that George W. Bush is really a very good speaker. Stop
trying. It is a loser argument and EVERYONE knows it. The question
is, "Will you admit it?"

I'll admit that you are so used to hearing left-biased news that when you
hear both sides, you think it's biased. There are many books & studies re
the liberal bias in the lamestream media...I guess you ignore those.
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Bush Lied 11 Jul 2004 11:50:32 AM
In article <49eIc.20464$JW6.5921218@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, Pookie
<pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:110720040921416691%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <__8Ic.14997$JW6.4869609@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, Pookie
<pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720041937339045%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <mm1Ic.7968$JW6.3560381@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, Pookie
<pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720041827387312%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article

<Du0Ic.10626$sD4.1093@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,

Steven P. McNicoll <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720041143184015%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...


It sounds like the propaganda put out by Fox "NEWS"


Fox News is the most objective news source on television.



ROFL!!!! I hope you don't really believe that. Name a liberal on

Fox

NEWS.


Alan Colmes, Neal Gabler, Jane Hall, Mort Kondracke, Juan Williams,

Mara

Liasson, Geraldo Rivera...


Alan Colmes is a self described centrist, Neal Gabler is a film critic
for Christ's sake, Jane Hall is an occasional guest, Mort Kondracke is
a centrist that leans right, Juan Williams is merely a guest, Mara
Liasson is a centrist, and Geraldo Rivera used to be a liberal, but
like the yellow belly ***** he proved to be, he blows with the wInd.
he is no liberal. (But I'll bet you goofs actually believe these
people are liberals. You don't know what a liberal is.)

There is an organization out there called FAIR. (Fairness & Accuracy
In Reporting). They are a national media watch group, has been
offering well-documented criticism of media bias and censorship since
1986. They constantly criticize the so called "liberal" news

resources

when they are inaccurate. Here is what they say about FOX "NEWS."


FAIR is a leftist group...what did you expect from them...oh, never
mind...you'll say that FAIR is fair & balanced.


Of Course! If they say something you don't like, LIE ABOUT THEM.


Alan Colmes is a self-described liberal & he says so several times

weekly.


He does now.

Neal Gabler & Jane Hall are liberals & regulars on Fox News Watch. Juan
Williams is a liberal who is a regular on Fox News Sunday. Mara Liasson

is a

liberal from PBS who is a regular on Special Report & Fox News Sunday...


If you, or ANYONE thinks that Fox "NEWS" isn't BIASED, you are nothing
but a moron - pure and simple. It isn't even a close call. It is like
arguing that George W. Bush is really a very good speaker. Stop
trying. It is a loser argument and EVERYONE knows it. The question
is, "Will you admit it?"


I'll admit that you are so used to hearing left-biased news that when you
hear both sides, you think it's biased. There are many books & studies re
the liberal bias in the lamestream media...I guess you ignore those.

So you feel this is "Fair and Balanced," correct?
"Coming next, drug addicted pregnant women no longer have anything to
fear from the authorities thanks to the Supreme Court. Both sides on
this in a moment."
--Bill O'Reilly (O'Reilly Factor, 3/23/01)
"Who would be the most likely to cheat at cards-- Bill Clinton or Al
Gore?"
--Fox News Channel/Opinion Dynamics poll (5/00)
"I think what's going on is the Democratic lawyers have flooded
Florida. They are afraid of George W. Bush becoming president and
instituting tort reform and their gravy train will be over. This is the
trial association's full court press to make sure Bush does not win."
--Fox News Channel anchor John Gibson (12/9/00)
"Now for the top story tonight: Is Al Gore running for president on a
quasi-socialistic platform--in this case, socialism being defined as
work and production being supervised by the government?" (6/7/00)
.
User: "Pookie"

Title: Re: Bush Lied 11 Jul 2004 12:29:55 PM
"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:110720040950320589%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <49eIc.20464$JW6.5921218@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, Pookie
<pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:110720040921416691%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <__8Ic.14997$JW6.4869609@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, Pookie
<pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720041937339045%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <mm1Ic.7968$JW6.3560381@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>,

Pookie

<pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720041827387312%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article

<Du0Ic.10626$sD4.1093@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,

Steven P. McNicoll <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in

message

news:100720041143184015%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...


It sounds like the propaganda put out by Fox "NEWS"


Fox News is the most objective news source on television.



ROFL!!!! I hope you don't really believe that. Name a

liberal on

Fox

NEWS.


Alan Colmes, Neal Gabler, Jane Hall, Mort Kondracke, Juan

Williams,

Mara

Liasson, Geraldo Rivera...


Alan Colmes is a self described centrist, Neal Gabler is a film

critic

for Christ's sake, Jane Hall is an occasional guest, Mort

Kondracke is

a centrist that leans right, Juan Williams is merely a guest, Mara
Liasson is a centrist, and Geraldo Rivera used to be a liberal,

but

like the yellow belly ***** he proved to be, he blows with the

wInd.

he is no liberal. (But I'll bet you goofs actually believe these
people are liberals. You don't know what a liberal is.)

There is an organization out there called FAIR. (Fairness &

Accuracy

In Reporting). They are a national media watch group, has been
offering well-documented criticism of media bias and censorship

since

1986. They constantly criticize the so called "liberal" news

resources

when they are inaccurate. Here is what they say about FOX "NEWS."


FAIR is a leftist group...what did you expect from them...oh, never
mind...you'll say that FAIR is fair & balanced.


Of Course! If they say something you don't like, LIE ABOUT THEM.


Alan Colmes is a self-described liberal & he says so several times

weekly.


He does now.

Neal Gabler & Jane Hall are liberals & regulars on Fox News Watch.

Juan

Williams is a liberal who is a regular on Fox News Sunday. Mara

Liasson

is a

liberal from PBS who is a regular on Special Report & Fox News

Sunday...


If you, or ANYONE thinks that Fox "NEWS" isn't BIASED, you are nothing
but a moron - pure and simple. It isn't even a close call. It is

like

arguing that George W. Bush is really a very good speaker. Stop
trying. It is a loser argument and EVERYONE knows it. The question
is, "Will you admit it?"


I'll admit that you are so used to hearing left-biased news that when

you

hear both sides, you think it's biased. There are many books & studies

re

the liberal bias in the lamestream media...I guess you ignore those.


So you feel this is "Fair and Balanced," correct?

"Coming next, drug addicted pregnant women no longer have anything to
fear from the authorities thanks to the Supreme Court. Both sides on
this in a moment."
--Bill O'Reilly (O'Reilly Factor, 3/23/01)

"Who would be the most likely to cheat at cards-- Bill Clinton or Al
Gore?"
--Fox News Channel/Opinion Dynamics poll (5/00)

"I think what's going on is the Democratic lawyers have flooded
Florida. They are afraid of George W. Bush becoming president and
instituting tort reform and their gravy train will be over. This is the
trial association's full court press to make sure Bush does not win."
--Fox News Channel anchor John Gibson (12/9/00)

"Now for the top story tonight: Is Al Gore running for president on a
quasi-socialistic platform--in this case, socialism being defined as
work and production being supervised by the government?" (6/7/00)

I don't know Barnes, you keep changing the subject. You said that there were
no liberals on Fox. I named several & now you're back to FoxNews being less
balanced than other news organizations.
Then you give me 4 4-5 year-old quotes. How about you commenting on some
things that occurred last week...
http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/2004/cyb20040707.asp#1
http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/2004/cyb20040706_extra.asp
http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/2004/cyb20040708.asp#1
http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/2004/cyb20040709.asp#5
If that's not enough for you to chew on, read this:
http://www.mrc.org/SpecialReports/2004/pdf/liberal_media.pdf
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Bush Lied 11 Jul 2004 12:45:48 PM
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It sounds like the propaganda put out by Fox "NEWS"


Fox News is the most objective news source on television.



ROFL!!!! I hope you don't really believe that. Name a

liberal on

Fox

NEWS.


Alan Colmes, Neal Gabler, Jane Hall, Mort Kondracke, Juan

Williams,

Mara

Liasson, Geraldo Rivera...


Alan Colmes is a self described centrist, Neal Gabler is a film

critic

for Christ's sake, Jane Hall is an occasional guest, Mort

Kondracke is

a centrist that leans right, Juan Williams is merely a guest, Mara
Liasson is a centrist, and Geraldo Rivera used to be a liberal,

but

like the yellow belly ***** he proved to be, he blows with the

wInd.

he is no liberal. (But I'll bet you goofs actually believe these
people are liberals. You don't know what a liberal is.)

There is an organization out there called FAIR. (Fairness &

Accuracy

In Reporting). They are a national media watch group, has been
offering well-documented criticism of media bias and censorship

since

1986. They constantly criticize the so called "liberal" news

resources

when they are inaccurate. Here is what they say about FOX "NEWS."


FAIR is a leftist group...what did you expect from them...oh, never
mind...you'll say that FAIR is fair & balanced.


Of Course! If they say something you don't like, LIE ABOUT THEM.


Alan Colmes is a self-described liberal & he says so several times

weekly.


He does now.

Neal Gabler & Jane Hall are liberals & regulars on Fox News Watch.

Juan

Williams is a liberal who is a regular on Fox News Sunday. Mara

Liasson

is a

liberal from PBS who is a regular on Special Report & Fox News

Sunday...


If you, or ANYONE thinks that Fox "NEWS" isn't BIASED, you are nothing
but a moron - pure and simple. It isn't even a close call. It is

like

arguing that George W. Bush is really a very good speaker. Stop
trying. It is a loser argument and EVERYONE knows it. The question
is, "Will you admit it?"


I'll admit that you are so used to hearing left-biased news that when

you

hear both sides, you think it's biased. There are many books & studies

re

the liberal bias in the lamestream media...I guess you ignore those.


So you feel this is "Fair and Balanced," correct?

"Coming next, drug addicted pregnant women no longer have anything to
fear from the authorities thanks to the Supreme Court. Both sides on
this in a moment."
--Bill O'Reilly (O'Reilly Factor, 3/23/01)

"Who would be the most likely to cheat at cards-- Bill Clinton or Al
Gore?"
--Fox News Channel/Opinion Dynamics poll (5/00)

"I think what's going on is the Democratic lawyers have flooded
Florida. They are afraid of George W. Bush becoming president and
instituting tort reform and their gravy train will be over. This is the
trial association's full court press to make sure Bush does not win."
--Fox News Channel anchor John Gibson (12/9/00)

"Now for the top story tonight: Is Al Gore running for president on a
quasi-socialistic platform--in this case, socialism being defined as
work and production being supervised by the government?" (6/7/00)


I don't know Barnes, you keep changing the subject. You said that there were
no liberals on Fox. I named several & now you're back to FoxNews being less
balanced than other news organizations.

The point we were speaking of was that Fox "NEWS" is biased. Proof of
that is the scant number of liberals vs. the copious number of
conservatives. Try to keep up, please.


Then you give me 4 4-5 year-old quotes. How about you commenting on some
things that occurred last week...

http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/2004/cyb20040707.asp#1

http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/2004/cyb20040706_extra.asp

http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/2004/cyb20040708.asp#1

http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/2004/cyb20040709.asp#5

If that's not enough for you to chew on, read this:

http://www.mrc.org/SpecialReports/2004/pdf/liberal_media.pdf

Now you are ducking the issues. We were speaking of Fox "NEWS".
But of course journalists are going to be more liberal. It is the same
reason Judges, Teachers, and college professors are more liberal. As
one becomes more educated, as one sees the reality of the policies we
live under, it is natural to become more liberal. However, your urls
don't really prove a liberal bias, only liberal journalists. I accept
that.
If your argument is that more liberal journalists means more liberal
newscasting, then you are admitting, by inference, that Fox "NEWS" is
biased. They clearly have more conservative "journalists." (Really
they are propagandists.)
Do you really believe this:
"Coming next, drug addicted pregnant women no longer have anything to
fear from the authorities thanks to the Supreme Court. Both sides on
this in a moment."
--Bill O'Reilly (O'Reilly Factor, 3/23/01)
or this:
"Who would be the most likely to cheat at cards-- Bill Clinton or Al
Gore?"
--Fox News Channel/Opinion Dynamics poll (5/00)
Indicates unbiased journalism?
.
User: "Pookie"

Title: Re: Bush Lied 11 Jul 2004 01:24:28 PM
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It sounds like the propaganda put out by Fox "NEWS"


Fox News is the most objective news source on

television.



ROFL!!!! I hope you don't really believe that. Name a

liberal on

Fox

NEWS.


Alan Colmes, Neal Gabler, Jane Hall, Mort Kondracke, Juan

Williams,

Mara

Liasson, Geraldo Rivera...


Alan Colmes is a self described centrist, Neal Gabler is a

film

critic

for Christ's sake, Jane Hall is an occasional guest, Mort

Kondracke is

a centrist that leans right, Juan Williams is merely a guest,

Mara

Liasson is a centrist, and Geraldo Rivera used to be a

liberal,

but

like the yellow belly ***** he proved to be, he blows with

the

wInd.

he is no liberal. (But I'll bet you goofs actually believe

these

people are liberals. You don't know what a liberal is.)

There is an organization out there called FAIR. (Fairness &

Accuracy

In Reporting). They are a national media watch group, has

been

offering well-documented criticism of media bias and

censorship

since

1986. They constantly criticize the so called "liberal" news

resources

when they are inaccurate. Here is what they say about FOX

"NEWS."


FAIR is a leftist group...what did you expect from them...oh,

never

mind...you'll say that FAIR is fair & balanced.


Of Course! If they say something you don't like, LIE ABOUT THEM.


Alan Colmes is a self-described liberal & he says so several

times

weekly.


He does now.

Neal Gabler & Jane Hall are liberals & regulars on Fox News

Watch.

Juan

Williams is a liberal who is a regular on Fox News Sunday. Mara

Liasson

is a

liberal from PBS who is a regular on Special Report & Fox News

Sunday...


If you, or ANYONE thinks that Fox "NEWS" isn't BIASED, you are

nothing

but a moron - pure and simple. It isn't even a close call. It is

like

arguing that George W. Bush is really a very good speaker. Stop
trying. It is a loser argument and EVERYONE knows it. The

question

is, "Will you admit it?"


I'll admit that you are so used to hearing left-biased news that

when

you

hear both sides, you think it's biased. There are many books &

studies

re

the liberal bias in the lamestream media...I guess you ignore those.


So you feel this is "Fair and Balanced," correct?

"Coming next, drug addicted pregnant women no longer have anything to
fear from the authorities thanks to the Supreme Court. Both sides on
this in a moment."
--Bill O'Reilly (O'Reilly Factor, 3/23/01)

"Who would be the most likely to cheat at cards-- Bill Clinton or Al
Gore?"
--Fox News Channel/Opinion Dynamics poll (5/00)

"I think what's going on is the Democratic lawyers have flooded
Florida. They are afraid of George W. Bush becoming president and
instituting tort reform and their gravy train will be over. This is

the

trial association's full court press to make sure Bush does not win."
--Fox News Channel anchor John Gibson (12/9/00)

"Now for the top story tonight: Is Al Gore running for president on a
quasi-socialistic platform--in this case, socialism being defined as
work and production being supervised by the government?" (6/7/00)


I don't know Barnes, you keep changing the subject. You said that there

were

no liberals on Fox. I named several & now you're back to FoxNews being

less

balanced than other news organizations.


The point we were speaking of was that Fox "NEWS" is biased. Proof of
that is the scant number of liberals vs. the copious number of
conservatives. Try to keep up, please.


Then you give me 4 4-5 year-old quotes. How about you commenting on some
things that occurred last week...

http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/2004/cyb20040707.asp#1

http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/2004/cyb20040706_extra.asp

http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/2004/cyb20040708.asp#1

http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/2004/cyb20040709.asp#5

If that's not enough for you to chew on, read this:

http://www.mrc.org/SpecialReports/2004/pdf/liberal_media.pdf


Now you are ducking the issues. We were speaking of Fox "NEWS".

But of course journalists are going to be more liberal. It is the same
reason Judges, Teachers, and college professors are more liberal. As
one becomes more educated, as one sees the reality of the policies we
live under, it is natural to become more liberal. However, your urls
don't really prove a liberal bias, only liberal journalists. I accept
that.

If your argument is that more liberal journalists means more liberal
newscasting, then you are admitting, by inference, that Fox "NEWS" is
biased. They clearly have more conservative "journalists." (Really
they are propagandists.)

All I am admitting is that Fox News is different than most of the mainstream
media in that they do not lean left.
Seebach: Researchers surprised by liberal bias of media
July 3, 2004
People trying to persuade others to adopt their views are very likely to
cite think-tank experts who agree with them. And the liberal lobbying group
Americans for Democratic Action (their description of themselves) regularly
grades politicians from 0 to 100 based on their votes on selected issues,
with the most liberal members of Congress earning 100.
Two researchers have combined these two disparate ideas to come up with a
measure of media bias that doesn't depend on journalists' own perceptions of
where they fit on the political spectrum, or on subjective judgments about
the philosophical orientation of think tanks. Tim Groseclose, of UCLA and
Stanford, and Jeff Milyo of the University of Chicago used data comparing
which think tanks various politicians liked to quote and which think tanks
various media outlets liked to quote in their news stories to estimate two
ADA scores for each media outlet in the study, one based on the number of
times a think tank was cited, and the other on the length of the
citation.The media outlets were The New York Times, Los Angeles Times, USA
Today, the three network news shows, Fox News' Special Report and The Drudge
Report (the paper is online at
www.yale.edu/isps/seminars/american_pol/groseclose.pdf).
"Our results show a very significant liberal bias," they write. "One of our
measures found that The Drudge Report is the most centrist of all media
outlets in our sample. Our other measure found that Fox News' Special Report
is the most centrist." And all three papers, plus NBC and CBS, "were closer
to the average Democrat in Congress than to the median member of the House
of Representatives." Fair and balanced, anyone? To use a simplified example,
they say, suppose there were only two think tanks, and The New York Times
cited the liberal one twice as often as the conservative one. Then the
newspaper's ADA score would be the same as that of a member of Congress who
did the same.
The estimated ADA score for Fox, based on citations, was 35.6. That puts it
in the company of Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, and a few points below the
House median, 39.0. The two highest were The New York Times, at 67.6, and
CBS Evening News, at 70.0. The average Republican in Congress has an ADA
score of 11.2, and the average Democrat 74.1.
The authors say they expected to find that the mainstream media leaned to
the left, but they were "astounded by the degree." So when people say, for
example, that The New York Times may be tilted left, but people can
compensate for that by watching Fox News, they don't take into account that
the Times is much further from the center than Fox. "To gain a balanced
perspective, one would need to spend twice as much time watching Special
Report as he or she spends reading The New York Times."
Turning the research around also allows the authors to answer the question
of which think tanks are liberal or conservative - in most cases everyone
knows, but there are some questions. Rand, for instance, comes out pretty
much in the middle until they look at it more closely and discover there
are, in effect, two Rands; one that does social and political stuff, which
is mostly quoted by liberal politicians, and another that does military
stuff and is seldom quoted by anybody.
Another anomaly is the American Civil Liberties Union, which turned out much
more conservative than anybody really thinks it is; but that proved to be
primarily because of its opposition to the McCain-Feingold campaign-finance
bill, frequently cited by conservatives.
The predominance of liberals (however identified) in major media is
well-documented, but there remains a great deal of controversy over how much
that fact influences news reporting (this analysis looks only at news
reports, not editorials, reviews or letters to the editor). Most journalists
I know say they work hard to keep their personal views out of their news
reporting (again, excepting people like me who are supposed to be expressing
opinions). And most of them, I'm sure, sincerely believe they succeed. This
is evidence that what they succeed best at is sounding like Democrats.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/news_columnists/article/0,1299,DRMN_86_3009245,00.html
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Bush Lied 11 Jul 2004 03:10:08 PM
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It sounds like the propaganda put out by Fox "NEWS"


Fox News is the most objective news source on

television.



ROFL!!!! I hope you don't really believe that. Name a

liberal on

Fox

NEWS.


Alan Colmes, Neal Gabler, Jane Hall, Mort Kondracke, Juan

Williams,

Mara

Liasson, Geraldo Rivera...


Alan Colmes is a self described centrist, Neal Gabler is a

film

critic

for Christ's sake, Jane Hall is an occasional guest, Mort

Kondracke is

a centrist that leans right, Juan Williams is merely a guest,

Mara

Liasson is a centrist, and Geraldo Rivera used to be a

liberal,

but

like the yellow belly ***** he proved to be, he blows with

the

wInd.

he is no liberal. (But I'll bet you goofs actually believe

these

people are liberals. You don't know what a liberal is.)

There is an organization out there called FAIR. (Fairness &

Accuracy

In Reporting). They are a national media watch group, has

been

offering well-documented criticism of media bias and

censorship

since

1986. They constantly criticize the so called "liberal" news

resources

when they are inaccurate. Here is what they say about FOX

"NEWS."


FAIR is a leftist group...what did you expect from them...oh,

never

mind...you'll say that FAIR is fair & balanced.


Of Course! If they say something you don't like, LIE ABOUT THEM.


Alan Colmes is a self-described liberal & he says so several

times

weekly.


He does now.

Neal Gabler & Jane Hall are liberals & regulars on Fox News

Watch.

Juan

Williams is a liberal who is a regular on Fox News Sunday. Mara

Liasson

is a

liberal from PBS who is a regular on Special Report & Fox News

Sunday...


If you, or ANYONE thinks that Fox "NEWS" isn't BIASED, you are

nothing

but a moron - pure and simple. It isn't even a close call. It is

like

arguing that George W. Bush is really a very good speaker. Stop
trying. It is a loser argument and EVERYONE knows it. The

question

is, "Will you admit it?"


I'll admit that you are so used to hearing left-biased news that

when

you

hear both sides, you think it's biased. There are many books &

studies

re

the liberal bias in the lamestream media...I guess you ignore those.


So you feel this is "Fair and Balanced," correct?

"Coming next, drug addicted pregnant women no longer have anything to
fear from the authorities thanks to the Supreme Court. Both sides on
this in a moment."
--Bill O'Reilly (O'Reilly Factor, 3/23/01)

"Who would be the most likely to cheat at cards-- Bill Clinton or Al
Gore?"
--Fox News Channel/Opinion Dynamics poll (5/00)

"I think what's going on is the Democratic lawyers have flooded
Florida. They are afraid of George W. Bush becoming president and
instituting tort reform and their gravy train will be over. This is

the

trial association's full court press to make sure Bush does not win."
--Fox News Channel anchor John Gibson (12/9/00)

"Now for the top story tonight: Is Al Gore running for president on a
quasi-socialistic platform--in this case, socialism being defined as
work and production being supervised by the government?" (6/7/00)


I don't know Barnes, you keep changing the subject. You said that there

were

no liberals on Fox. I named several & now you're back to FoxNews being

less

balanced than other news organizations.


The point we were speaking of was that Fox "NEWS" is biased. Proof of
that is the scant number of liberals vs. the copious number of
conservatives. Try to keep up, please.


Then you give me 4 4-5 year-old quotes. How about you commenting on some
things that occurred last week...

http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/2004/cyb20040707.asp#1

http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/2004/cyb20040706_extra.asp

http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/2004/cyb20040708.asp#1

http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/2004/cyb20040709.asp#5

If that's not enough for you to chew on, read this:

http://www.mrc.org/SpecialReports/2004/pdf/liberal_media.pdf


Now you are ducking the issues. We were speaking of Fox "NEWS".

But of course journalists are going to be more liberal. It is the same
reason Judges, Teachers, and college professors are more liberal. As
one becomes more educated, as one sees the reality of the policies we
live under, it is natural to become more liberal. However, your urls
don't really prove a liberal bias, only liberal journalists. I accept
that.

If your argument is that more liberal journalists means more liberal
newscasting, then you are admitting, by inference, that Fox "NEWS" is
biased. They clearly have more conservative "journalists." (Really
they are propagandists.)


All I am admitting is that Fox News is different than most of the mainstream
media in that they do not lean left.

You keep changing the subject. Why is that?


Seebach: Researchers surprised by liberal bias of media
July 3, 2004

(I don't repeat copyright violations. It is illegal)


http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/news_columnists/article/0,1299,DRMN_86_3009245,00.html


Do you really believe this:
"Coming next, drug addicted pregnant women no longer have anything to
fear from the authorities thanks to the Supreme Court. Both sides on
this in a moment."
--Bill O'Reilly (O'Reilly Factor, 3/23/01)
or this:
"Who would be the most likely to cheat at cards-- Bill Clinton or Al
Gore?"
--Fox News Channel/Opinion Dynamics poll (5/00)
Indicates unbiased journalism?
.








User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Bush Lied 11 Jul 2004 08:04:11 AM
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It sounds like the propaganda put out by Fox "NEWS"


Fox News is the most objective news source on television.



ROFL!!!! I hope you don't really believe that. Name a liberal on Fox
NEWS.


Alan Colmes, Neal Gabler, Jane Hall, Mort Kondracke, Juan Williams, Mara
Liasson, Geraldo Rivera...


Alan Colmes is a self described centrist, Neal Gabler is a film critic
for Christ's sake, Jane Hall is an occasional guest, Mort Kondracke is
a centrist that leans right, Juan Williams is merely a guest, Mara
Liasson is a centrist, and Geraldo Rivera used to be a liberal, but
like the yellow belly ***** he proved to be, he blows with the wInd.
he is no liberal. (But I'll bet you goofs actually believe these
people are liberals. You don't know what a liberal is.)

You see...when their own don't always walk in their line..they are not
"liberal" enough.
It is almost like when I hear blacks tell other blacks..they are not "black"
enough.
You gotta love their excuses!!!
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Bush Lied 11 Jul 2004 11:21:41 AM
In article <dJmdnU5vKvNap2zdRVn-uA@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720041937339045%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <mm1Ic.7968$JW6.3560381@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, Pookie
<pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720041827387312%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <Du0Ic.10626$sD4.1093@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
Steven P. McNicoll <roncachamp@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:100720041143184015%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...


It sounds like the propaganda put out by Fox "NEWS"


Fox News is the most objective news source on television.



ROFL!!!! I hope you don't really believe that. Name a liberal on Fox
NEWS.


Alan Colmes, Neal Gabler, Jane Hall, Mort Kondracke, Juan Williams, Mara
Liasson, Geraldo Rivera...


Alan Colmes is a self described centrist, Neal Gabler is a film critic
for Christ's sake, Jane Hall is an occasional guest, Mort Kondracke is
a centrist that leans right, Juan Williams is merely a guest, Mara
Liasson is a centrist, and Geraldo Rivera used to be a liberal, but
like the yellow belly ***** he proved to be, he blows with the wInd.
he is no liberal. (But I'll bet you goofs actually believe these
people are liberals. You don't know what a liberal is.)


You see...when their own don't always walk in their line..they are not
"liberal" enough.
It is almost like when I hear blacks tell other blacks..they are not "black"
enough.

You gotta love their excuses!!!

Moron. They aren't "NEWS," that's all. They are propaganda. And you
fools falls for it.
.





User: "Pookie"

Title: Re: Bush Lied 09 Jul 2004 10:25:55 AM
"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:090720040741216231%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <h_xHc.2253$1C4.1780655@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, Pookie
<pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:090720040711218203%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <DFxHc.2176$1C4.1722555@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, Pookie
<pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote:

"Justice Cow" <justicecow@hotmail.cow> wrote in message
news:justicecow-68FCF2.09503809072004@news.east.cox.net...

In article <Y9qHc.278$l32.151@news01.roc.ny>,
"Carl Carlton" <slipperywicket@nospam.com> wrote:

"Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:gxmHc.90374$kz.19152600@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...


"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in

message

news:d3sre0t68gtmgjdmmjcoe0hebe5aj4gsv5@4ax.com...

Washington, DC, Jul. 1 (UPI) -- A majority of Americans

believe

President Bush deliberately misled his nation to justify

invading

Iraq, a survey released Thursday indicates.


http://www.scaryjohnkerry.com/wmd.htm


Kerry said that AFTER George Bush told the country that he

had

evidence

and

CIA intelligence that Iraq had WMDs. As you know, BUSH LIED

TO

THE

COUNTRY!!

Even I said go to war, I don't expect my president to

blatantly

lie

and

take

the country into war but he did and made BILLIONS FOR HIS

BUDDIES

AND

PAID

FOR THEM WITH now over a 1000 American soldier's lives. How

can

you

be

so

blind Pookie, are you stupid or legally retarded? Which?



thats exactly where my husband and I were. we believed our

president

and supported him. he lied.

pookie is either mentally ill. or paid. no one spends day

after

day

after day posting propaganda for free unless they're crazy.


It's so easy to say "he lied" & just ignore anything or anyone

that

disagrees with you. See no evil, hear no evil...just speak

evil...


Propaganda? You probably believe that Moore's movie is a

documentary.


Michael Moore's movie contains factual information that an idiot

can

see looks bad for Bush. As for it being propaganda, it is

identical

to

what you see every day on Fox "NEWS" except it cuts against Bush.


Fifty-nine Deceits in Fahrenheit 9/11


Allegations - nothing more. (Not one example supported by proof.) If
you need others to tell you how to think, you must be a Republican.


I need others such as you to show me how an idiot like you can cancel

out my

vote.


Liberals don't "cancel votes." That is the job of the Republicans. If
everyone in the U.S. were to vote, the Democrats would be the winners,
hands down. The Republicans encourage non-voting.

Yes, I should be more for both felon & dead voters...
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Bush Lied 09 Jul 2004 08:36:44 PM
In article <7OyHc.2586$1C4.1922053@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, Pookie
<pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:090720040741216231%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <h_xHc.2253$1C4.1780655@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, Pookie
<pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:090720040711218203%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...

In article <DFxHc.2176$1C4.1722555@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, Pookie
<pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote:

"Justice Cow" <justicecow@hotmail.cow> wrote in message
news:justicecow-68FCF2.09503809072004@news.east.cox.net...

In article <Y9qHc.278$l32.151@news01.roc.ny>,
"Carl Carlton" <slipperywicket@nospam.com> wrote:

"Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:gxmHc.90374$kz.19152600@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...


"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in

message

news:d3sre0t68gtmgjdmmjcoe0hebe5aj4gsv5@4ax.com...

Washington, DC, Jul. 1 (UPI) -- A majority of Americans

believe

President Bush deliberately misled his nation to justify

invading

Iraq, a survey released Thursday indicates.


http://www.scaryjohnkerry.com/wmd.htm


Kerry said that AFTER George Bush told the country that he

had

evidence

and

CIA intelligence that Iraq had WMDs. As you know, BUSH LIED

TO

THE

COUNTRY!!

Even I said go to war, I don't expect my president to

blatantly

lie

and

take

the country into war but he did and made BILLIONS FOR HIS

BUDDIES

AND

PAID

FOR THEM WITH now over a 1000 American soldier's lives. How

can

you

be

so

blind Pookie, are you stupid or legally retarded? Which?



thats exactly where my husband and I were. we believed our

president

and supported him. he lied.

pookie is either mentally ill. or paid. no one spends day

after

day

after day posting propaganda for free unless they're crazy.


It's so easy to say "he lied" & just ignore anything or anyone

that

disagrees with you. See no evil, hear no evil...just speak

evil...


Propaganda? You probably believe that Moore's movie is a

documentary.


Michael Moore's movie contains factual information that an idiot

can

see looks bad for Bush. As for it being propaganda, it is

identical

to

what you see every day on Fox "NEWS" except it cuts against Bush.


Fifty-nine Deceits in Fahrenheit 9/11


Allegations - nothing more. (Not one example supported by proof.) If
you need others to tell you how to think, you must be a Republican.


I need others such as you to show me how an idiot like you can cancel

out my

vote.


Liberals don't "cancel votes." That is the job of the Republicans. If
everyone in the U.S. were to vote, the Democrats would be the winners,
hands down. The Republicans encourage non-voting.


Yes, I should be more for both felon & dead voters...

That would be Republicans again. An audit revealed more votes than
bush "won" by that were double counted by Republicans counting military
votes.
.


User: "lab~rat"

Title: Re: Bush Lied 09 Jul 2004 09:48:57 AM
On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 07:11:21 -0700, "David W. Barnes"
<DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> puked:

In article <DFxHc.2176$1C4.1722555@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, Pookie
<pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote:

"Justice Cow" <justicecow@hotmail.cow> wrote in message
news:justicecow-68FCF2.09503809072004@news.east.cox.net...

In article <Y9qHc.278$l32.151@news01.roc.ny>,
"Carl Carlton" <slipperywicket@nospam.com> wrote:

"Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:gxmHc.90374$kz.19152600@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...


"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:d3sre0t68gtmgjdmmjcoe0hebe5aj4gsv5@4ax.com...

Washington, DC, Jul. 1 (UPI) -- A majority of Americans believe
President Bush deliberately misled his nation to justify

invading

Iraq, a survey released Thursday indicates.


http://www.scaryjohnkerry.com/wmd.htm


Kerry said that AFTER George Bush told the country that he had

evidence

and

CIA intelligence that Iraq had WMDs. As you know, BUSH LIED TO THE

COUNTRY!!

Even I said go to war, I don't expect my president to blatantly lie

and

take

the country into war but he did and made BILLIONS FOR HIS BUDDIES

AND

PAID

FOR THEM WITH now over a 1000 American soldier's lives. How can you

be

so

blind Pookie, are you stupid or legally retarded? Which?



thats exactly where my husband and I were. we believed our president
and supported him. he lied.

pookie is either mentally ill. or paid. no one spends day after day
after day posting propaganda for free unless they're crazy.


It's so easy to say "he lied" & just ignore anything or anyone that
disagrees with you. See no evil, hear no evil...just speak evil...

Propaganda? You probably believe that Moore's movie is a documentary.


Michael Moore's movie contains factual information that an idiot can
see looks bad for Bush. As for it being propaganda, it is identical to
what you see every day on Fox "NEWS" except it cuts against Bush.


Fifty-nine Deceits in Fahrenheit 9/11


Allegations - nothing more. (Not one example supported by proof.) If
you need others to tell you how to think, you must be a Republican.

I read that and thought you were talking about F9-11 and Michael Moore
until I read Republican there at the end...
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
.

User: "Carol Lee Smith"

Title: Re: Bush Lied 09 Jul 2004 11:53:46 AM
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Pookie wrote:

Propaganda? You probably believe that Moore's movie is a documentary.

Michael Moore's movie contains factual information that an idiot can
see looks bad for Bush. As for it being propaganda, it is identical to
what you see every day on Fox "NEWS" except it cuts against Bush.

Fifty-nine Deceits in Fahrenheit 9/11
By Dave Kopel

Fahrenheit 9/11 may also be branded as the film that made an overblown
case against the Bush team. Certainly defenders of the Iraq war are
already casting it that way. Limbaugh calls it "a pack of lies." In the
online publication Slate, Christopher Hitchens wrote that it was "a
sinister exercise in moral frivolity, crudely disguised as an exercise in
seriousness." Even liberal Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen, an
opponent of the war, told his readers that he "recoiled from Moore's
methodology." To mount fast responses to critics like those, Moore has
organized a "war room" overseen by former Clinton White House aides Chris
Lehane and Mark Fabiani. He also hired the former chief of fact checking
at the New Yorker magazine to comb the film for inaccuracies. "There's
lots of disagreement with my analysis of these facts or my opinion based
on the facts. But," he insists, "there is not a single factual error in
the movie. I'm thinking of offering a $ 10,000 reward for anyone that can
find a single fact that's wrong."
---end TIME MAGAZINE excerpt-----
<snip book-length post>