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Science > Abortion |
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"Rockett Crawford" |
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24 Feb 2006 11:05:35 AM |
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Poll on new S. Dakota abortion law |
New poll on my website if anyone is interested in chiming in:
Should all abortions be outlawed, even in the case of incest, rape, and
where the health of the mother is compromised as in the new S. Dakota law?
http://www.goatstar.org
Capella
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Poll on new S. Dakota abortion law |
24 Feb 2006 01:53:47 PM |
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"Rockett Crawford" <capella@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:11vuf6t9ut7eac4@corp.supernews.com...
New poll on my website if anyone is interested in chiming in:
Should all abortions be outlawed, even in the case of incest, rape, and
where the health of the mother is compromised as in the new S. Dakota law?
http://www.goatstar.org
Why are you misreporting?
The SD law allows abortions in cases where the mother's health/life si
threatened.
Capella
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| User: "Adam H." |
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| Title: Re: Poll on new S. Dakota abortion law |
24 Feb 2006 02:18:05 PM |
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:53:47 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Rockett Crawford" <capella@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:11vuf6t9ut7eac4@corp.supernews.com...
New poll on my website if anyone is interested in chiming in:
Should all abortions be outlawed, even in the case of incest, rape, and
where the health of the mother is compromised as in the new S. Dakota law?
http://www.goatstar.org
Why are you misreporting?
The SD law allows abortions in cases where the mother's health/life si
threatened.
Why are you lying? The abortion ban bill allows no exception for rape
or incest, and removes most exceptions for health.
---
I bought a Venus Fly Trap today. I was going to name it
‘Republican’, but the fly trap is beneficial to the
environment. I’ll save that name - someday I might find
a plant that eats poor people and minorities.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Poll on new S. Dakota abortion law |
24 Feb 2006 06:49:34 PM |
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"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:53:47 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Rockett Crawford" <capella@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:11vuf6t9ut7eac4@corp.supernews.com...
New poll on my website if anyone is interested in chiming in:
Should all abortions be outlawed, even in the case of incest, rape, and
where the health of the mother is compromised as in the new S. Dakota
law?
http://www.goatstar.org
Why are you misreporting?
The SD law allows abortions in cases where the mother's health/life si
threatened.
Why are you lying?
I read a synopsis of the bill.
There was an allowance if the woman's health was threatened.
The abortion ban bill allows no exception for rape
or incest, and removes most exceptions for health.
So?
Why ae you for aborting evidence?
---
I bought a Venus Fly Trap today.
So? Did you pay too much?
I was going to name it
'Republican', but the fly trap is beneficial to the
environment. I'll save that name - someday I might find
a plant that eats poor people and minorities.
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| User: "Paul Anderson" |
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| Title: Re: Poll on new S. Dakota abortion law |
24 Feb 2006 09:22:35 PM |
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:49:34 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:53:47 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Rockett Crawford" <capella@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:11vuf6t9ut7eac4@corp.supernews.com...
New poll on my website if anyone is interested in chiming in:
Should all abortions be outlawed, even in the case of incest, rape, and
where the health of the mother is compromised as in the new S. Dakota
law?
http://www.goatstar.org
Why are you misreporting?
The SD law allows abortions in cases where the mother's health/life si
threatened.
Why are you lying?
I read a synopsis of the bill.
There was an allowance if the woman's health was threatened.
Nope: http://legis.state.sd.us/sessions/2006/bills/HB1215enr.htm
There is no health exception. There is no exception for risk of
death. The phrasing is "No licensed physician who performs a medical
procedure designed or intended to prevent the death of a pregnant
mother is guilty of violating section 2 of this Act." You have to
look at this as a prosecutor. There is nothing about medical
judgement -- unless the doctor can prove that the woman would die he
would be guilty of a felony. You cannot tell if the woman _will_ die
until she is dead. There has been testamony in Congress by Pro-Lifers
stating that abortion is never required to save the life of the woman.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Poll on new S. Dakota abortion law |
25 Feb 2006 06:38:43 AM |
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"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:43ffcb71.41119656@news.la.sbcglobal.net...
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:49:34 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:laquv15vj1sgg5anhmsqfu9tov2e0oishb@fe06.highwinds-media.phx...
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:53:47 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Rockett Crawford" <capella@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:11vuf6t9ut7eac4@corp.supernews.com...
New poll on my website if anyone is interested in chiming in:
Should all abortions be outlawed, even in the case of incest, rape,
and
where the health of the mother is compromised as in the new S. Dakota
law?
http://www.goatstar.org
Why are you misreporting?
The SD law allows abortions in cases where the mother's health/life si
threatened.
Why are you lying?
I read a synopsis of the bill.
There was an allowance if the woman's health was threatened.
Nope: http://legis.state.sd.us/sessions/2006/bills/HB1215enr.htm
There is no health exception.
"No licensed physician who performs a medical procedure designed or intended
to prevent the death of a pregnant mother is guilty of violating section 2
of this Act. However, the physician shall make reasonable medical efforts
under the circumstances to preserve both the life of the mother and the life
of her unborn child in a manner consistent with conventional medical
practice."
There is no exception for risk of
death.
"No licensed physician who performs a medical procedure designed or intended
to prevent the death of a pregnant mother is guilty of violating section 2
of this Act. However, the physician shall make reasonable medical efforts
under the circumstances to preserve both the life of the mother and the life
of her unborn child in a manner consistent with conventional medical
practice."
The phrasing is "No licensed physician who performs a medical
procedure designed or intended to prevent the death of a pregnant
mother is guilty of violating section 2 of this Act." You have to
look at this as a prosecutor. There is nothing about medical
judgement -- unless the doctor can prove that the woman would die he
would be guilty of a felony.
"However, the physician shall make reasonable medical efforts under the
circumstances to preserve both the life of the mother and the life of her
unborn child in a manner consistent with conventional medical practice."
You cannot tell if the woman _will_ die
until she is dead. There has been testamony in Congress by Pro-Lifers
stating that abortion is never required to save the life of the woman.
So, you rant and rave about a law which disallows abortions, huh?
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| User: "Shawn Hirn" |
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| Title: Re: Poll on new S. Dakota abortion law |
25 Feb 2006 08:29:33 AM |
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In article <NaYLf.4645$eQ3.1619@bignews4.bellsouth.net>,
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
You cannot tell if the woman _will_ die
until she is dead. There has been testamony in Congress by Pro-Lifers
stating that abortion is never required to save the life of the woman.
So, you rant and rave about a law which disallows abortions, huh?
You have no problem with legislating how medical doctors can practice?
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Poll on new S. Dakota abortion law |
25 Feb 2006 10:17:19 AM |
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"Shawn Hirn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-7E77F9.09293325022006@news.giganews.com...
In article <NaYLf.4645$eQ3.1619@bignews4.bellsouth.net>,
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
You cannot tell if the woman _will_ die
until she is dead. There has been testamony in Congress by Pro-Lifers
stating that abortion is never required to save the life of the woman.
So, you rant and rave about a law which disallows abortions, huh?
You have no problem with legislating how medical doctors can practice?
None at all. That is the only way we can control medical costs in our
society.
Currently medical costs are out of control.
Doctors are not qualified to dictate what is allowed in their practices
because of the conflict of interest they have in performing medical tasks.
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| User: "Adam H." |
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| Title: Re: Poll on new S. Dakota abortion law |
24 Feb 2006 07:01:50 PM |
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:49:34 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:laquv15vj1sgg5anhmsqfu9tov2e0oishb@fe06.highwinds-media.phx...
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:53:47 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Rockett Crawford" <capella@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:11vuf6t9ut7eac4@corp.supernews.com...
New poll on my website if anyone is interested in chiming in:
Should all abortions be outlawed, even in the case of incest, rape, and
where the health of the mother is compromised as in the new S. Dakota
law?
http://www.goatstar.org
Why are you misreporting?
The SD law allows abortions in cases where the mother's health/life si
threatened.
Why are you lying?
I read a synopsis of the bill.
There was an allowance if the woman's health was threatened.
There was a severly limiting allowance for life-threatening health
issues. That was all.
The abortion ban bill allows no exception for rape
or incest, and removes most exceptions for health.
So?
Why ae you for aborting evidence?
Why are you in support of traumatizing women with reminders of their
rape?
I'm still waiting for you to provide any kind of coherent
justification for forcing pregnancy on women as part of any criminal
investigation. I bet you can't - this is just another dumbass attempt
to divert the thread to something irrelevant.
---
I bought a Venus Fly Trap today. I was going to name it
‘Republican’, but the fly trap is beneficial to the
environment. I’ll save that name - someday I might find
a plant that eats poor people and minorities.
.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Poll on new S. Dakota abortion law |
24 Feb 2006 07:04:55 PM |
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"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:1vavv19fru47p7t9qctlm123slorvc7ahq@fe06.highwinds-media.phx...
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:49:34 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:laquv15vj1sgg5anhmsqfu9tov2e0oishb@fe06.highwinds-media.phx...
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:53:47 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Rockett Crawford" <capella@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:11vuf6t9ut7eac4@corp.supernews.com...
New poll on my website if anyone is interested in chiming in:
Should all abortions be outlawed, even in the case of incest, rape,
and
where the health of the mother is compromised as in the new S. Dakota
law?
http://www.goatstar.org
Why are you misreporting?
The SD law allows abortions in cases where the mother's health/life si
threatened.
Why are you lying?
I read a synopsis of the bill.
There was an allowance if the woman's health was threatened.
There was a severly limiting allowance for life-threatening health
issues. That was all.
What is your problem?
You don't love women enough to allow them abortions if they need them?
The abortion ban bill allows no exception for rape
or incest, and removes most exceptions for health.
So?
Why are you for aborting evidence?
Why are you in support of traumatizing women with reminders of their
rape?
Hey, *****. I am not trying to remind of the rape they suffered.
I'm still waiting for you to provide any kind of coherent
justification for forcing pregnancy on women as part of any criminal
investigation.
Hey, *****, lamebrain, kookbrained fool.
The rapist is who FORCE the pregnancy on the woman.
With the law I presrcibe justice will be served.
Why are you so freaking stupid?
I bet you can't - this is just another dumbass attempt
to divert the thread to something irrelevant.
Your evil agenda is what is irrelevant.
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| User: "Adam H." |
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| Title: Re: Poll on new S. Dakota abortion law |
24 Feb 2006 08:11:10 PM |
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 20:04:55 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:1vavv19fru47p7t9qctlm123slorvc7ahq@fe06.highwinds-media.phx...
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:49:34 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:laquv15vj1sgg5anhmsqfu9tov2e0oishb@fe06.highwinds-media.phx...
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:53:47 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Rockett Crawford" <capella@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:11vuf6t9ut7eac4@corp.supernews.com...
New poll on my website if anyone is interested in chiming in:
Should all abortions be outlawed, even in the case of incest, rape,
and
where the health of the mother is compromised as in the new S. Dakota
law?
http://www.goatstar.org
Why are you misreporting?
The SD law allows abortions in cases where the mother's health/life si
threatened.
Why are you lying?
I read a synopsis of the bill.
There was an allowance if the woman's health was threatened.
There was a severly limiting allowance for life-threatening health
issues. That was all.
What is your problem?
You don't love women enough to allow them abortions if they need them?
No, that would be you, Johnny.
The abortion ban bill allows no exception for rape
or incest, and removes most exceptions for health.
So?
Why are you for aborting evidence?
Why are you in support of traumatizing women with reminders of their
rape?
Hey, *****. I am not trying to remind of the rape they suffered.
Yes you are.
I'm still waiting for you to provide any kind of coherent
justification for forcing pregnancy on women as part of any criminal
investigation.
Hey, *****, lamebrain, kookbrained fool.
The rapist is who FORCE the pregnancy on the woman.
With the law I presrcibe justice will be served.
Why are you so freaking stupid?
Demonstrate how justice is served by forcing women to remain pregnant
by a rapist, Johnny.
Oh, wait. You're morally the same as a rapist with your demands.
I bet you can't - this is just another dumbass attempt
to divert the thread to something irrelevant.
Your evil agenda is what is irrelevant.
Hey, you're the one defending rapists, not me.
---
I bought a Venus Fly Trap today. I was going to name it
‘Republican’, but the fly trap is beneficial to the
environment. I’ll save that name - someday I might find
a plant that eats poor people and minorities.
.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Poll on new S. Dakota abortion law |
25 Feb 2006 06:33:47 AM |
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"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 20:04:55 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:1vavv19fru47p7t9qctlm123slorvc7ahq@fe06.highwinds-media.phx...
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:49:34 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:laquv15vj1sgg5anhmsqfu9tov2e0oishb@fe06.highwinds-media.phx...
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:53:47 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Rockett Crawford" <capella@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:11vuf6t9ut7eac4@corp.supernews.com...
New poll on my website if anyone is interested in chiming in:
Should all abortions be outlawed, even in the case of incest, rape,
and
where the health of the mother is compromised as in the new S.
Dakota
law?
http://www.goatstar.org
Why are you misreporting?
The SD law allows abortions in cases where the mother's health/life si
threatened.
Why are you lying?
I read a synopsis of the bill.
There was an allowance if the woman's health was threatened.
There was a severly limiting allowance for life-threatening health
issues. That was all.
What is your problem?
You don't love women enough to allow them abortions if they need them?
No, that would be you, Johnny.
The abortion ban bill allows no exception for rape
or incest, and removes most exceptions for health.
So?
Why are you for aborting evidence?
Why are you in support of traumatizing women with reminders of their
rape?
Hey, *****. I am not trying to remind of the rape they suffered.
Yes you are.
I'm still waiting for you to provide any kind of coherent
justification for forcing pregnancy on women as part of any criminal
investigation.
Hey, *****, lamebrain, kookbrained fool.
The rapist is who FORCE the pregnancy on the woman.
With the law I presrcibe justice will be served.
Why are you so freaking stupid?
Demonstrate how justice is served by forcing women to remain pregnant
by a rapist, Johnny.
Oh, wait. You're morally the same as a rapist with your demands.
I bet you can't - this is just another dumbass attempt
to divert the thread to something irrelevant.
Your evil agenda is what is irrelevant.
Hey, you're the one defending rapists, not me.
Wrong. What makes you think a rapist can be exposed by eliminating that
which would expose them?
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Poll on new S. Dakota abortion law |
25 Feb 2006 10:38:08 PM |
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:05:35 -0600, "Rockett Crawford"
<capella@airmail.net> wrote in alt.atheism
New poll on my website if anyone is interested in chiming in:
Should all abortions be outlawed, even in the case of incest, rape, and
where the health of the mother is compromised as in the new S. Dakota law?
http://www.goatstar.org
None outlawed at all, would be slavers are invited to ride the
one-legged pony.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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