Science > Abortion > Pope Benedict endorses adult stem-cell research as respecting human life
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18 Sep 2006 11:31:38 PM |
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Pope Benedict endorses adult stem-cell research as respecting human life |
His Holiness, who is blessed by God and is infallible, has decreed adult
stem-cell research as a viable option for further study. All Catholics, and
other decent people, should adopt this philosophy.
http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=21301
CASTEL GANDOLFO, Italy (Catholic Online) - Pope Benedict XVI endorsed adult
stem-cell research, urging Catholic scientific institutions to increase
their efforts and establish closer working relationships with others in the
field to promote breakthroughs that can relieve needless human suffering.
Speaking Sept. 16 at his summer residence here to participants at an
international congress, the pope said that the Catholic Church favors
advanced biological research, just as it has throughout its history.
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J Yöung
youngopinions@aol.com
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18 Sep 2006 11:50:21 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
His Holiness, who is blessed by God and is infallible, has decreed adult
stem-cell research as a viable option for further study. All Catholics, and
other decent people, should adopt this philosophy.
That's nice, but if he is "infallible", how did he manage to ***** off
the Muslim world a few days ago by not clearly indicating that he was
quoting some ancient nut, not agreeing with said nut?
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18 Sep 2006 11:59:44 PM |
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"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
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That's nice, but if he is "infallible", how did he manage to ***** off
the Muslim world a few days ago by not clearly indicating that he was
quoting some ancient nut, not agreeing with said nut?
Because the Muslim world is filled with idiots and other assorted savages;
who obviously shouldn't be expected to understand anything. His Holiness was
addressing an audience of Catholics; who knew exactly what the Pope was
saying.
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19 Sep 2006 01:21:44 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
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That's nice, but if he is "infallible", how did he manage to ***** off
the Muslim world a few days ago by not clearly indicating that he was
quoting some ancient nut, not agreeing with said nut?
Because the Muslim world is filled with idiots and other assorted savages;
who obviously shouldn't be expected to understand anything. His Holiness was
addressing an audience of Catholics; who knew exactly what the Pope was
saying.
If you'd ever have visited any part of the "Muslim world" that is not
an active war zone due to the U.S. invading it, you just might have a
ghost of a chance of realizing how idiotic you sound - most of the
people you'll meet are very nice, warm, and friendly. If the pope
really was "infallible", he would have realized that with reporters
present, his comments just might be taken out of context.
Also, you failed "Cathoic Dogma 101" since papal infallibility is
supposed to apply only to statements made "ex cathedra" and these
are rarely uttered, and when they are uttered, they are about
theological questions of the "how many angels can dance on the
the head of a pin" variety - something that nobody would ever by
able to test empirically.
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| User: "Larry Scratch" |
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19 Sep 2006 12:17:19 AM |
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No One wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
His Holiness, who is blessed by God and is infallible, has decreed adult
stem-cell research as a viable option for further study. All Catholics, and
other decent people, should adopt this philosophy.
That's nice, but if he is "infallible", how did he manage to ***** off
the Muslim world a few days ago by not clearly indicating that he was
quoting some ancient nut, not agreeing with said nut?
It's very easy to ***** of Muslims. They still live in the 12th century
and want to kill anyone that isn't a MUST SLUM! Their god is the god of
darkness.
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| User: "No One" |
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19 Sep 2006 01:28:02 AM |
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"Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> writes:
It's very easy to ***** of Muslims. They still live in the 12th century
and want to kill anyone that isn't a MUST SLUM! Their god is the god
of darkness.
I take it you've never met an ordinary Muslim. I have - even some gay
ones who like to drink alchoholic beverages and eat pork. They joked
that they were in so much trouble due to their sexual orienation, that
the rest of it didn't matter. :-)
If you visit a Muslim country, you'll find that most of the people you
meet are reasonable. You know, like those Americans who go to church
on Sunday because the family expects it and then spend the rest of the
week ignoring their religion.
Of course the Muslims have their religious nuts, just as we have
Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell, but these nuts are very much in
the minority (even if the inmates are running the asylum in a few
countries).
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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19 Sep 2006 01:32:55 AM |
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In article <m3venkfk20.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net>, No One
<noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:
"Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> writes:
It's very easy to ***** of Muslims. They still live in the 12th century
and want to kill anyone that isn't a MUST SLUM! Their god is the god
of darkness.
I take it you've never met an ordinary Muslim. I have - even some gay
ones who like to drink alchoholic beverages and eat pork. They joked
that they were in so much trouble due to their sexual orienation, that
the rest of it didn't matter. :-)
If you visit a Muslim country, you'll find that most of the people you
meet are reasonable. You know, like those Americans who go to church
on Sunday because the family expects it and then spend the rest of the
week ignoring their religion.
Of course the Muslims have their religious nuts, just as we have
Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell, but these nuts are very much in
the minority (even if the inmates are running the asylum in a few
countries).
Don't try to explain it to the bigots out here. They live in their own
world.
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| User: "Larry Scratch" |
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19 Sep 2006 11:28:50 AM |
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No One wrote:
"Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> writes:
It's very easy to ***** of Muslims. They still live in the 12th century
and want to kill anyone that isn't a MUST SLUM! Their god is the god
of darkness.
I take it you've never met an ordinary Muslim. I have - even some gay
ones who like to drink alchoholic beverages and eat pork. They joked
that they were in so much trouble due to their sexual orienation, that
the rest of it didn't matter. :-)
Well here we go with the sick freak thing again. Is it even possible to
post without bringing that into the conversation? Doesn't seem to be
If you visit a Muslim country,
Ain't going to happen my friend. There is NOTHING in any Muslim country
I would care to see.
you'll find that most of the people you
meet are reasonable.
I have no doubt that there are good people in that faith. No doubt. But
thye really don't speak up a whole lot and protest what is going on in
the world and what thier faith is doing. What is it you nut case lefties
like to say? If you don't speak up against it, then you condone it. Is
that different now?
You know, like those Americans who go to church
on Sunday because the family expects it and then spend the rest of the
week ignoring their religion.
Yes, that does happen. Aw shucks I get it ow, here you thought when one
became a Christian, that automatically made them perfect and like little
Jesus's Sorry to disappoint ya, but then I'm sure you already knew that
you just like to rag on America, Christians and Bush. Go ahead, admit
it. It is the 1st step towards a cure for liberalism. It is a sickness
we do not all share.
Of course the Muslims have their religious nuts, just as we have
Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell, but these nuts are very much in
the minority (even if the inmates are running the asylum in a few
countries).
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| User: "No One" |
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19 Sep 2006 12:30:06 PM |
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"Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> writes:
No One wrote:
"Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> writes:
It's very easy to ***** of Muslims. They still live in the 12th century
and want to kill anyone that isn't a MUST SLUM! Their god is the god
of darkness.
I take it you've never met an ordinary Muslim. I have - even some
gay ones who like to drink alchoholic beverages and eat pork.
They joked that they were in so much trouble due to their sexual
orienation, that the rest of it didn't matter. :-)
Well here we go with the sick freak thing again. Is it even possible
to post without bringing that into the conversation? Doesn't seem to be
What "sick freak"? It's not like they were alchohics or had medical
problems due to their diet.
If you visit a Muslim country,
Ain't going to happen my friend. There is NOTHING in any Muslim
country I would care to see.
The mountain K2 is in a Muslim country. I guess you would not care
to see it. :-) Here are some photos from this country:
<http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/images/pakistan-mtn.gif>
<http://www.ecoexpeditions.no/pakistan/images/k2conc.jpg>
<http://www.ecoexpeditions.no/pakistan/images/congashbr.jpg>
you'll find that most of the people you
meet are reasonable.
I have no doubt that there are good people in that faith. No
doubt. But thye really don't speak up a whole lot and protest what is
going on in the world and what thier faith is doing. What is it you
nut case lefties like to say? If you don't speak up against it, then
you condone it. Is that different now?
Since you won't go there, you have no idea what they might say (and you
won't hear what they might say if you stay in the U.S. because the
average person cannot afford his own private TV channel, and in the
poorer countries, most people don't even have a telephone.)
But then, I don't see mainstream Christians in the U.S. protesting
Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, or Freddie Phelps. They might roll
their eyes if someone mentions those guys but they generally won't
bring them up either.
You know, like those Americans who go to church on Sunday
because the family expects it and then spend the rest of the week
ignoring their religion.
Yes, that does happen. Aw shucks I get it ow, here you thought when
one became a Christian, that automatically made them perfect and like
little Jesus's Sorry to disappoint ya, but then I'm sure you already
knew that you just like to rag on America, Christians and Bush. Go
ahead, admit it. It is the 1st step towards a cure for liberalism. It
is a sickness we do not all share.
You have a serious reading comprehension problem - where did I say
there was anything wrong with spending an hour a week at some church
to keep peace in the family and then forgetting about it the rest of
the week? In fact, "keeping mom happy" and otherwise not taking the
thing very seriously is a perfectly valid reason to go to a church.
Of course the Muslims have their religious nuts, just as we have
Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell, but these nuts are very much in
the minority (even if the inmates are running the asylum in a few
countries).
No comment on that, eh? :-)
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| User: "gatt" |
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19 Sep 2006 04:05:03 PM |
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"Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in message
news:td2dnZu-_sZBh43YnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@comcast.com...
Ain't going to happen my friend. There is NOTHING in any Muslim country I
would care to see.
Pyramids? I'd love to see the old ruins.
-c
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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19 Sep 2006 05:37:23 PM |
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In News 3YYPg.1043$ya1.464@news02.roc.ny,, gatt at
LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com, typed this:
"Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in message
news:td2dnZu-_sZBh43YnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@comcast.com...
Ain't going to happen my friend. There is NOTHING in any Muslim
country I would care to see.
Pyramids? I'd love to see the old ruins.
I was there in 1978, they were great.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Larry Scratch" |
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19 Sep 2006 06:50:31 PM |
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Andrealphus wrote:
In News 3YYPg.1043$ya1.464@news02.roc.ny,, gatt at
LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com, typed this:
"Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in message
news:td2dnZu-_sZBh43YnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@comcast.com...
Ain't going to happen my friend. There is NOTHING in any Muslim
country I would care to see.
Pyramids? I'd love to see the old ruins.
I was there in 1978, they were great.
Hell gatt can go there and stay there as far as I'm concerned. Maybe he
can hear a different sound when he shoots little plastic Jesus's. You
know being on the sand and all.
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| User: "gatt" |
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19 Sep 2006 07:20:50 PM |
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"Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in message
news:sLqdnUmdKNr9H43YnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
I was there in 1978, they were great.
Hell gatt can go there and stay there as far as I'm concerned. Maybe he
can hear a different sound when he shoots little plastic Jesus's. You know
being on the sand and all.
I didn't shoot the plastic Jesus. I shot one or two of the wise men. They
were Persian, were they not? Zoroastrians, no less. You got a problem with
thwacking Iranians all of a sudden? Why do you hate America?
Given, they might have been quite a bit like you which is to say,
hard-headed and otherwise hollow on the inside.
-c
(But I'm delighted that you're still so worked up about the plastic jesus
thing. IDOLATRY! REPENT, SINNER!)
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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19 Sep 2006 07:47:19 PM |
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In News sLqdnUmdKNr9H43YnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com,, Larry (Scratch) at
Scratch@Tigard.OR.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 3YYPg.1043$ya1.464@news02.roc.ny,, gatt at
LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com, typed this:
"Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in message
news:td2dnZu-_sZBh43YnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@comcast.com...
Ain't going to happen my friend. There is NOTHING in any Muslim
country I would care to see.
Pyramids? I'd love to see the old ruins.
I was there in 1978, they were great.
Hell gatt can go there and stay there as far as I'm concerned.
Nobody really cares what you're concerned about.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Larry Scratch" |
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19 Sep 2006 08:13:21 PM |
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Andrealphus wrote:
In News sLqdnUmdKNr9H43YnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com,, Larry (Scratch) at
Scratch@Tigard.OR.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 3YYPg.1043$ya1.464@news02.roc.ny,, gatt at
LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com, typed this:
"Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in message
news:td2dnZu-_sZBh43YnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@comcast.com...
Ain't going to happen my friend. There is NOTHING in any Muslim
country I would care to see.
Pyramids? I'd love to see the old ruins.
I was there in 1978, they were great.
Hell gatt can go there and stay there as far as I'm concerned.
Nobody really cares what you're concerned about.
Apparently you do! you responded. Unlike someone who doesn't care.
It must take to two halfwits like you to make a full wit (Otherwise
known as a leftie)
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| User: "gatt" |
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20 Sep 2006 01:04:55 PM |
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"Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in message
news:PeedncKQi-hXCI3YnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@comcast.com...
Apparently you do! you responded. Unlike someone who doesn't care.
It must take to two halfwits like you to make a full wit (Otherwise known
as a leftie)
Wow, so, if it has wits, it's a leftie. It follows logically that if it has
less-than-full-wit, it's not a leftie.
Good one, Scratch.
-c
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19 Sep 2006 08:31:59 PM |
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In News PeedncKQi-hXCI3YnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@comcast.com,, Larry (Scratch) at
Scratch@Tigard.OR.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News sLqdnUmdKNr9H43YnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com,, Larry
(Scratch) at Scratch@Tigard.OR.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 3YYPg.1043$ya1.464@news02.roc.ny,, gatt at
LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com, typed this:
"Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in message
news:td2dnZu-_sZBh43YnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@comcast.com...
Ain't going to happen my friend. There is NOTHING in any Muslim
country I would care to see.
Pyramids? I'd love to see the old ruins.
I was there in 1978, they were great.
Hell gatt can go there and stay there as far as I'm concerned.
Nobody really cares what you're concerned about.
Apparently you do!
Are you always this stupid? You think that someone responds by saying
they're not concerned, that they are really concerned?
Yeah Einstein, that's just bloody brilliant.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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19 Sep 2006 04:18:49 PM |
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In article <3YYPg.1043$ya1.464@news02.roc.ny> "gatt" <LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com> writes:
"Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in message
news:td2dnZu-_sZBh43YnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@comcast.com...
Ain't going to happen my friend. There is NOTHING in any Muslim country I
would care to see.
Pyramids? I'd love to see the old ruins.
That little shack in Agra, Indic, built by the
Muslim emperor Shah Jahan (the Taj Mahal)?
-- cary
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| User: "Don Homuth" |
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19 Sep 2006 04:21:19 PM |
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 21:18:49 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <3YYPg.1043$ya1.464@news02.roc.ny> "gatt" <LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com> writes:
"Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in message
news:td2dnZu-_sZBh43YnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@comcast.com...
Ain't going to happen my friend. There is NOTHING in any Muslim country I
would care to see.
Pyramids? I'd love to see the old ruins.
That little shack in Agra, Indic, built by the
Muslim emperor Shah Jahan (the Taj Mahal)?
-- cary
Most of the Wonders of the Ancient World are now in Muslim nations.
Any of which would be worth a visit.
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| User: "Bill Shatzer" |
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19 Sep 2006 11:01:12 PM |
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Don Homuth wrote:
Most of the Wonders of the Ancient World are now in Muslim nations.
Actually, only one Wonder of the Ancient World survives - the Great
Pyramid of Giza. So technically, ALL the wonders of the ancient world
are in Muslim nations.
Any of which would be worth a visit.
Well, a visit to Alexandria or Rhodes might be worth the trip but not to
gaze on the spot where once the lighthouse or the colossus once stood.
There's really nothing to see there at all.
Now a visit to the defunct Hanging Gardens of Babylon probably isn't
even worth the trip. Not only is there nothing to see (folks aren't
even sure exactly where they were), but you'll probably be kidnapped -
if an IED doesn't get you first.
Peace and justice,
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20 Sep 2006 01:12:04 AM |
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Bill Shatzer wrote:
Well, a visit to Alexandria or Rhodes might be worth the trip but not to
gaze on the spot where once the lighthouse or the colossus once stood.
There's really nothing to see there at all.
Maybe sombody should talk to the Greeks about the Colossus.
Shouldn't be a problem to do it again, just because.
Some years ago there was Japanese project announced for
a gigantic Buddha statue. I need to look that one up.
Is it being done?
http://www.bodhgayanews.net/statue/statue05.htm
Here it is.
500 feet tall in Bihar, India
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You are a fluke of the Universe
You have no right to be here,
and whether you can hear it or not,
the Universe is laughing behind your back.
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Don Homuth" |
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20 Sep 2006 10:58:53 AM |
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 21:01:12 -0700, Bill Shatzer
<bshatzerNO@comcast.net> wrote:
Don Homuth wrote:
Most of the Wonders of the Ancient World are now in Muslim nations.
Actually, only one Wonder of the Ancient World survives - the Great
Pyramid of Giza. So technically, ALL the wonders of the ancient world
are in Muslim nations.
The ruins, sites and local museums are available.
Any of which would be worth a visit.
Well, a visit to Alexandria or Rhodes might be worth the trip but not to
gaze on the spot where once the lighthouse or the colossus once stood.
There's really nothing to see there at all.
Not quite. Didja catch the Discovery Channel or History Channel show
on bringing up chunks of the Great Lighthouse from nearby waters,
where it collapsed during the earthquake?
They have verified that the stones and statues were indeed part of the
lighthouse.
Now a visit to the defunct Hanging Gardens of Babylon probably isn't
even worth the trip. Not only is there nothing to see (folks aren't
even sure exactly where they were), but you'll probably be kidnapped -
if an IED doesn't get you first.
There is that.
A pity that Angkor Wat is not listed amongst the World Wonders, though
it is now considered a major international historical site.
It's one of two things I want to see most in Asia -- that and the
terra cotta warriors in the PRC. Those also continue to fascinate me.
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| User: "gatt" |
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20 Sep 2006 12:56:49 PM |
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"Don Homuth" <dhomuth1@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Not quite. Didja catch the Discovery Channel or History Channel show
on bringing up chunks of the Great Lighthouse from nearby waters,
where it collapsed during the earthquake?
Have to say that the most fascinating one that's been on lately is the
Exodus Decoded.
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| User: "Bill Shatzer" |
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20 Sep 2006 12:39:13 PM |
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Don Homuth wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 21:01:12 -0700, Bill Shatzer
<bshatzerNO@comcast.net> wrote:
Don Homuth wrote:
Most of the Wonders of the Ancient World are now in Muslim nations.
Actually, only one Wonder of the Ancient World survives - the Great
Pyramid of Giza. So technically, ALL the wonders of the ancient world
are in Muslim nations.
The ruins, sites and local museums are available.
Well, I've been to Olympia and I can assure you that not a trace of the
Statue of Zeus remains.
The ruins of the temple which once contained the statue still exist but
they're sorta unremarkable (as ruins go) and consist mainly of the
foundations. They're are not particularly enhanced by the knowledge that
a rather large statue once stood at the site.
The local museum has a 1/16th (or so) scale reproduction of how it might
have looked - nobody really knows fershur - but the reproduction could
have been installed in any museum anywhere in the world without adding
much to, or detracting much from, the experience.
Given an either/or choice, visit Delphi and skip Olympia.
-snip-
Now a visit to the defunct Hanging Gardens of Babylon probably isn't
even worth the trip. Not only is there nothing to see (folks aren't
even sure exactly where they were), but you'll probably be kidnapped -
if an IED doesn't get you first.
There is that.
A pity that Angkor Wat is not listed amongst the World Wonders, though
it is now considered a major international historical site.
Well, it hardly could be - not having been constructed until a millenium
or so after Herodotus or Antipater or whoever it was put together the
"Wonders of the Ancient World" list.
Angkor Wat probably qualifies as a "wonder" but not of the "Ancient World"
It's one of two things I want to see most in Asia -- that and the
terra cotta warriors in the PRC. Those also continue to fascinate me.
Ayutthaya in Thailand is the equal of Angkor Wat - but somehow gets
overlooked.
Perhaps because it was kinda "always there" rather than being
"rediscovered" in the jungles and thus lacks the "lost city" mythos.
Peace and justice,
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| User: "Don Homuth" |
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20 Sep 2006 02:50:25 PM |
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On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 10:39:13 -0700, Bill Shatzer
<bshatzerNO@comcast.net> wrote:
Don Homuth wrote:
A pity that Angkor Wat is not listed amongst the World Wonders, though
it is now considered a major international historical site.
Well, it hardly could be - not having been constructed until a millenium
or so after Herodotus or Antipater or whoever it was put together the
"Wonders of the Ancient World" list.
Angkor Wat probably qualifies as a "wonder" but not of the "Ancient World"
Obviously not Ancient, in the Yurrupeen or Middle East sense, but
pretty old at that.
It's one of two things I want to see most in Asia -- that and the
terra cotta warriors in the PRC. Those also continue to fascinate me.
Ayutthaya in Thailand is the equal of Angkor Wat - but somehow gets
overlooked.
I spent an entire day in Ayudhya back in 1967. Not even on a tour --
just went with a professor of History from Chulalongkorn University in
Bangkok, and a USAF LTC I was visiting.
The slides I have kept all these years are breathtaking!
Perhaps because it was kinda "always there" rather than being
"rediscovered" in the jungles and thus lacks the "lost city" mythos.
Yeah -- that too.
If you like, sometime, I'll loan you my slides. On the day I was
there, they had just opened a new chamber underground, and I got some
of the first pictures of the artwork. And a great shot of me under a
banyana tree that I may have enlarged and framed someday.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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19 Sep 2006 11:40:21 AM |
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Larry (Scratch) <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
I have no doubt that there are good people in that faith. No doubt. But
thye really don't speak up a whole lot and protest what is going on in
the world and what thier faith is doing.
Why don't you?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Strife767" |
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19 Sep 2006 11:36:11 AM |
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:28:50 -0400, Larry (Scratch)
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
No One wrote:
"Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> writes:
It's very easy to ***** of Muslims. They still live in the 12th century
and want to kill anyone that isn't a MUST SLUM! Their god is the god
of darkness.
I take it you've never met an ordinary Muslim. I have - even some gay
ones who like to drink alchoholic beverages and eat pork. They joked
that they were in so much trouble due to their sexual orienation, that
the rest of it didn't matter. :-)
Well here we go with the sick freak thing again. Is it even possible to
post without bringing that into the conversation? Doesn't seem to be
If you visit a Muslim country,
Ain't going to happen my friend. There is NOTHING in any Muslim country
I would care to see.
Not a single thing? Doesn't that sound the least bit unfair?
you'll find that most of the people you
meet are reasonable.
I have no doubt that there are good people in that faith. No doubt. But
thye really don't speak up a whole lot and protest what is going on in
the world and what thier faith is doing.
How would you know? You just mentioned your outright refusal to visit the
specific countries in which this would happen.
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| User: "Larry Scratch" |
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19 Sep 2006 06:44:26 PM |
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Strife767 wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:28:50 -0400, Larry (Scratch)
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
No One wrote:
"Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> writes:
It's very easy to ***** of Muslims. They still live in the 12th century
and want to kill anyone that isn't a MUST SLUM! Their god is the god
of darkness.
I take it you've never met an ordinary Muslim. I have - even some gay
ones who like to drink alchoholic beverages and eat pork. They joked
that they were in so much trouble due to their sexual orienation, that
the rest of it didn't matter. :-)
Well here we go with the sick freak thing again. Is it even possible
to post without bringing that into the conversation? Doesn't seem to be
If you visit a Muslim country,
Ain't going to happen my friend. There is NOTHING in any Muslim
country I would care to see.
Not a single thing? Doesn't that sound the least bit unfair?
you'll find that most of the people you
meet are reasonable.
I have no doubt that there are good people in that faith. No doubt.
But thye really don't speak up a whole lot and protest what is going
on in the world and what thier faith is doing.
How would you know? You just mentioned your outright refusal to visit
the specific countries in which this would happen.
Pssstttt...., there is a new thing for getting news out, perhaps you
have not heard of it, it is called the Internet and news media and
satellite news and radio. May want to enlighten yourself. Travel also
works wonders talking to others of their life experiences.
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| User: "Strife767" |
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19 Sep 2006 08:52:10 PM |
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 19:44:26 -0400, Larry (Scratch)
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
Strife767 wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:28:50 -0400, Larry (Scratch)
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
No One wrote:
"Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> writes:
It's very easy to ***** of Muslims. They still live in the 12th
century
and want to kill anyone that isn't a MUST SLUM! Their god is the god
of darkness.
I take it you've never met an ordinary Muslim. I have - even some
gay
ones who like to drink alchoholic beverages and eat pork. They joked
that they were in so much trouble due to their sexual orienation, that
the rest of it didn't matter. :-)
Well here we go with the sick freak thing again. Is it even possible
to post without bringing that into the conversation? Doesn't seem to be
If you visit a Muslim country,
Ain't going to happen my friend. There is NOTHING in any Muslim
country I would care to see.
Not a single thing? Doesn't that sound the least bit unfair?
you'll find that most of the people you
meet are reasonable.
I have no doubt that there are good people in that faith. No doubt.
But thye really don't speak up a whole lot and protest what is going
on in the world and what thier faith is doing.
How would you know? You just mentioned your outright refusal to visit
the specific countries in which this would happen.
Pssstttt...., there is a new thing for getting news out, perhaps you
have not heard of it, it is called the Internet and news media and
satellite news and radio. May want to enlighten yourself.
(Rebellion occurring in countries where we're supposed to be the "good
guys" doesn't make us look good, so it'd never be reported in any real way)
Travel also works wonders talking to others of their life experiences.
What a hypocrite--didn't you just reply to someone who suggested you visit
a Muslim country with the indignant response, "Ain't going to happen my
friend. There is NOTHING in any Muslim country I would care to see."?
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| User: "Larry Scratch" |
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19 Sep 2006 09:06:09 PM |
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Strife767 wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 19:44:26 -0400, Larry (Scratch)
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
Strife767 wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:28:50 -0400, Larry (Scratch)
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
No One wrote:
"Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> writes:
It's very easy to ***** of Muslims. They still live in the 12th
century
and want to kill anyone that isn't a MUST SLUM! Their god is the god
of darkness.
I take it you've never met an ordinary Muslim. I have - even some
gay
ones who like to drink alchoholic beverages and eat pork. They joked
that they were in so much trouble due to their sexual orienation, that
the rest of it didn't matter. :-)
Well here we go with the sick freak thing again. Is it even possible
to post without bringing that into the conversation? Doesn't seem to be
If you visit a Muslim country,
Ain't going to happen my friend. There is NOTHING in any Muslim
country I would care to see.
Not a single thing? Doesn't that sound the least bit unfair?
you'll find that most of the people you
meet are reasonable.
I have no doubt that there are good people in that faith. No doubt.
But thye really don't speak up a whole lot and protest what is going
on in the world and what thier faith is doing.
How would you know? You just mentioned your outright refusal to
visit the specific countries in which this would happen.
Pssstttt...., there is a new thing for getting news out, perhaps you
have not heard of it, it is called the Internet and news media and
satellite news and radio. May want to enlighten yourself.
(Rebellion occurring in countries where we're supposed to be the "good
guys" doesn't make us look good, so it'd never be reported in any real way)
Travel also works wonders talking to others of their life experiences.
What a hypocrite--didn't you just reply to someone who suggested you
visit a Muslim country with the indignant response, "Ain't going to
happen my friend. There is NOTHING in any Muslim country I would care to
see."?
Want me to repeat it? I WILL NOT TRAVEL TO ANY MUSLIM COUNTRY
You got to be a real dumb ***** ya know? There is this religion that does
not like Americans and don't like Christians and Don't like the
President of the USA. Yet you think I should spend American dollars to
travel to a country and ask their opinion. Public schooled weren't ya!
Whoooossshhh.....,
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| User: "gatt" |
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20 Sep 2006 12:30:11 PM |
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"Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in message
news:IoGdnSUKN9u2P43YnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
Want me to repeat it? I WILL NOT TRAVEL TO ANY MUSLIM COUNTRY
Send the neighbor's kid, eh?
Yet you think I should spend American dollars to travel to a country
LOL! Whatcha suppose an Abrams costs?
Personally, I don't attach any association between the Sphinx and
anti-American fundamentalism anymore than Stonehenge represents the Queen of
England.
-c
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