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12 May 2007 09:32:10 PM |
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Pope Pius XII a step closer to sainthood |
His Holiness Pope Pius XII was a great man who has been unjustifiably
critcized for his role as the wartime Pontiff. May the rest of the
canonization process be swift so His Holiness can receive the
recognition he deserves.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article1772714.ece
Pope Pius XII, the wartime Pontiff accused of indifference towards the
Holocaust, has moved closer to becoming a saint, nearly fifty years
after his death.
The Vatican's Congregation of the Causes of the Saints, the body that
awards sainthoods, voted on Tuesday to approve the decree that Pius
had "heroic virtues". The Pontiff is now two stages away from official
sainthood, 40 years after the process to canonise him began.
If the present Pope Benedict XVI approves the decree, Pius XII will
receive the official title of "venerable".
The Congregation will then seek a certified miracle attributed to the
prayers of Pius XII, before awarding him full canonisation as "a saint
in heaven".
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Pius XII a step closer to sainthood |
13 May 2007 06:29:47 AM |
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On 12 May 2007 19:32:10 -0700, J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<1179023530.067558.69210@e51g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> wrote:
His Holiness Pope Pius XII was a great man who has been unjustifiably
critcized for his role as the wartime Pontiff. May the rest of the
canonization process be swift so His Holiness can receive the
recognition he deserves.
Yawn. You are aware are you not that this means absolutely nothing to
most of the world?
The way catholics constantly pound themselves on the back leads to
entirely new meanings for the word 'incest'.
We frankly could not care less.
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Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Pius XII a step closer to sainthood |
13 May 2007 12:49:58 AM |
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On 12 May 2007 19:32:10 -0700, J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
His Holiness Pope Pius XII was a great man who has been unjustifiably
critcized for his role as the wartime Pontiff. May the rest of the
canonization process be swift so His Holiness can receive the
recognition he deserves.
The RCC already has enough saints to populate a small country, IBen.
Sainthood really isn't much of a distinction these days.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Pius XII a step closer to sainthood |
13 May 2007 01:00:56 AM |
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John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
His Holiness Pope Pius XII was a great man who has been unjustifiably
critcized for his role as the wartime Pontiff. May the rest of the
canonization process be swift so His Holiness can receive the
recognition he deserves.
The RCC already has enough saints to populate a small country, IBen.
Sainthood really isn't much of a distinction these days.
It's just a means to collect money from the gullible. They're selling
fame. Of course, it's become even more obvious these days, with the
church bending its own rules and fast-tracking famous nuns and priests
for sainthood.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Pius XII a step closer to sainthood |
13 May 2007 03:36:30 AM |
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On 13 May 2007 06:00:56 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
His Holiness Pope Pius XII was a great man who has been unjustifiably
critcized for his role as the wartime Pontiff. May the rest of the
canonization process be swift so His Holiness can receive the
recognition he deserves.
The RCC already has enough saints to populate a small country, IBen.
Sainthood really isn't much of a distinction these days.
It's just a means to collect money from the gullible. They're selling
fame. Of course, it's become even more obvious these days, with the
church bending its own rules and fast-tracking famous nuns and priests
for sainthood.
I guess sainthood is the RCC's equivalent of being a rock star. <G>
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| User: "Stan-O" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Pius XII a step closer to sainthood |
13 May 2007 08:45:16 AM |
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On Sun, 13 May 2007 04:36:30 -0400, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net>
wrote:
On 13 May 2007 06:00:56 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
His Holiness Pope Pius XII was a great man who has been unjustifiably
critcized for his role as the wartime Pontiff. May the rest of the
canonization process be swift so His Holiness can receive the
recognition he deserves.
The RCC already has enough saints to populate a small country, IBen.
Sainthood really isn't much of a distinction these days.
It's just a means to collect money from the gullible. They're selling
fame. Of course, it's become even more obvious these days, with the
church bending its own rules and fast-tracking famous nuns and priests
for sainthood.
I guess sainthood is the RCC's equivalent of being a rock star. <G>
It's more like getting inducted into the Catholic Hall of Fame, but
the drawback is that you won't be around for the induction ceremony.
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| User: "Nosterill" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Pius XII a step closer to sainthood |
14 May 2007 09:26:39 AM |
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On May 13, 2:45 pm, Stan-O <lct...@ungo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 13 May 2007 04:36:30 -0400, John Baker <n...@bizniz.net>
wrote:
On 13 May 2007 06:00:56 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
John Baker <n...@bizniz.net> wrote:
J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
His Holiness Pope Pius XII was a great man who has been unjustifiably
critcized for his role as the wartime Pontiff. May the rest of the
canonization process be swift so His Holiness can receive the
recognition he deserves.
The RCC already has enough saints to populate a small country, IBen.
Sainthood really isn't much of a distinction these days.
It's just a means to collect money from the gullible. They're selling
fame. Of course, it's become even more obvious these days, with the
church bending its own rules and fast-tracking famous nuns and priests
for sainthood.
I guess sainthood is the RCC's equivalent of being a rock star. <G>
It's more like getting inducted into the Catholic Hall of Fame, but
the drawback is that you won't be around for the induction ceremony
But the upside is that you don't have to a tearful acceptance speech.
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| User: "towelie" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Pius XII a step closer to sainthood |
13 May 2007 07:02:34 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
His Holiness Pope Pius XII was a great man who has been
unjustifiably critcized for his role as the wartime Pontiff. May
the rest of the canonization process be swift so His Holiness can
receive the recognition he deserves.
The RCC already has enough saints to populate a small country, IBen.
Sainthood really isn't much of a distinction these days.
It's just a means to collect money from the gullible. They're selling
fame. Of course, it's become even more obvious these days, with the
church bending its own rules and fast-tracking famous nuns and priests
for sainthood.
The RCC is a dying cult, and they know it, and they're doing everything they
can to slow down its inevitable death. It makes them look desperate.
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| User: "Hatter" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Pius XII a step closer to sainthood |
14 May 2007 09:35:14 AM |
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On May 13, 8:02 am, "towelie" <bugoNOS...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
John Baker <n...@bizniz.net> wrote:
J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
His Holiness Pope Pius XII was a great man who has been
unjustifiably critcized for his role as the wartime Pontiff. May
the rest of the canonization process be swift so His Holiness can
receive the recognition he deserves.
The RCC already has enough saints to populate a small country, IBen.
Sainthood really isn't much of a distinction these days.
It's just a means to collect money from the gullible. They're selling
fame. Of course, it's become even more obvious these days, with the
church bending its own rules and fast-tracking famous nuns and priests
for sainthood.
The RCC is a dying cult, and they know it, and they're doing everything they
can to slow down its inevitable death. It makes them look desperate.- Hide quoted text -
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I still think the've got at least three centuries left before they
dwindle to nothingness.
Barring the invention of immortality serum or something like it.
Hatter
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Pius XII a step closer to sainthood |
12 May 2007 09:53:28 PM |
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On 12 May 2007 19:32:10 -0700, in alt.atheism
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
<1179023530.067558.69210@e51g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>:
His Holiness Pope Pius XII was a great man who has been unjustifiably
critcized for his role as the wartime Pontiff. May the rest of the
canonization process be swift so His Holiness can receive the
recognition he deserves.
I have no idea if Pio XII was as criminally complicit with the Nazis as
his detractors claim today, but I do know that I have no more respect
for the Roman Hierarchy, they have demonstrated over the past years that
they are quite self-serving and indifferent to the needs of their flock.
If Pius deserves to be called a saint, he doesn't deserve to have the
corrupt criminal organization that runs the Roman Catholic Church
honoring him. If he was as vile as his critics say, then he deserves to
be honored by those who hide rapists from justice.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article1772714.ece
Pope Pius XII, the wartime Pontiff accused of indifference towards the
Holocaust, has moved closer to becoming a saint, nearly fifty years
after his death.
The Vatican's Congregation of the Causes of the Saints, the body that
awards sainthoods, voted on Tuesday to approve the decree that Pius
had "heroic virtues". The Pontiff is now two stages away from official
sainthood, 40 years after the process to canonise him began.
If the present Pope Benedict XVI approves the decree, Pius XII will
receive the official title of "venerable".
The Congregation will then seek a certified miracle attributed to the
prayers of Pius XII, before awarding him full canonisation as "a saint
in heaven".
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| User: "" |
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13 May 2007 12:36:58 AM |
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On 12-May-2007, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
I have no idea if Pio XII was as criminally complicit with the Nazis as
his detractors claim today,
Even if he wasn't, he was complicit in baptizing Jewish children
against the wishes of their parents.
The LAST pope REFUSED to do that!
Susan
but I do know that I have no more respect
for the Roman Hierarchy, they have demonstrated over the past years that
they are quite self-serving and indifferent to the needs of their flock.
If Pius deserves to be called a saint, he doesn't deserve to have the
corrupt criminal organization that runs the Roman Catholic Church
honoring him. If he was as vile as his critics say, then he deserves to
be honored by those who hide rapists from justice.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article1772714.ece
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| User: "Dr. Lippschitz" |
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13 May 2007 12:48:57 AM |
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<flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message news:_tx1i.14197$b67.2959@trnddc06...
On 12-May-2007, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
I have no idea if Pio XII was as criminally complicit with the Nazis as
his detractors claim today,
Even if he wasn't, he was complicit in baptizing Jewish children
He was trying to help them.
Susan
but I do know that I have no more respect
for the Roman Hierarchy, they have demonstrated over the past years that
they are quite self-serving and indifferent to the needs of their flock.
Hmm that's odd, at last count they were the largest religion in the world
and have stood the test of time over the past 2000 years while governments,
peoples and countries are dust.
If Pius deserves to be called a saint, he doesn't deserve to have the
corrupt criminal organization that runs the Roman Catholic Church
honoring him. If he was as vile as his critics say, then he deserves to
be honored by those who hide rapists from justice.
Another jew lie.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article1772714.ece
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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13 May 2007 10:00:41 AM |
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On Sun, 13 May 2007 05:48:57 GMT, in alt.atheism
"Dr. Lippschitz" <lips@shits.il> wrote in <dFx1i.657$145.526@trnddc02>:
What a vile nym you have chosen to try to sell your evil view of the
world. Take your Naziism away.
<flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message news:_tx1i.14197$b67.2959@trnddc06...
On 12-May-2007, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
I have no idea if Pio XII was as criminally complicit with the Nazis as
his detractors claim today,
Even if he wasn't, he was complicit in baptizing Jewish children
He was trying to help them.
What a self-serving excuse. Not that you care, you clearly are an enemy
of Judaism and Christianity.
but I do know that I have no more respect
for the Roman Hierarchy, they have demonstrated over the past years that
they are quite self-serving and indifferent to the needs of their flock.
Hmm that's odd, at last count they were the largest religion in the world
and have stood the test of time over the past 2000 years while governments,
peoples and countries are dust.
The corruption has become more noticable in the past decades. It has
rotten out the European Church and is starting to destroy the American
Church.
If Pius deserves to be called a saint, he doesn't deserve to have the
corrupt criminal organization that runs the Roman Catholic Church
honoring him. If he was as vile as his critics say, then he deserves to
be honored by those who hide rapists from justice.
Another jew lie.
The rapists were priests who raped children and were protected by the
bishops and cardinals. The evidence has been provided and the Church is
suffering for it. You know that it is not a lie. You also know that the
accusers were Catholic.
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| User: "" |
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13 May 2007 08:37:43 PM |
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On 13-May-2007, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Sun, 13 May 2007 05:48:57 GMT, in alt.atheism
"Dr. Lippschitz" <lips@shits.il> wrote in <dFx1i.657$145.526@trnddc02>:
What a vile nym you have chosen to try to sell your evil view of the
world.
Yes, he's neither the first bigot to pretend to be one
of those he hates, nor is he the first to expose what
he truly is - his "e-mail" is the Freudian bit.
Susan
Take your Naziism away.
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| User: "Benyamin Cramer" |
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13 May 2007 02:23:55 AM |
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<flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message news:_tx1i.14197$b67.2959@trnddc06...
On 12-May-2007, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
I have no idea if Pio XII was as criminally complicit with the Nazis as
his detractors claim today,
Even if he wasn't, he was complicit in baptizing Jewish children
against the wishes of their parents.
The LAST pope REFUSED to do that!
That's where a ***** load of your holohoax "victims" ended up, cohen. Adopted
by Polish etc families and raised as Christians. We're not meant to know of
that however.
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| User: "Geoff" |
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13 May 2007 01:09:20 PM |
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Benyamin Cramer wrote:
<flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:_tx1i.14197$b67.2959@trnddc06...
On 12-May-2007, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
I have no idea if Pio XII was as criminally complicit with the
Nazis as his detractors claim today,
Even if he wasn't, he was complicit in baptizing Jewish children
against the wishes of their parents.
The LAST pope REFUSED to do that!
That's where a ***** load of your holohoax "victims" ended up, cohen.
Adopted by Polish etc families and raised as Christians. We're not
meant to know of that however.
One wonders how many is in a ***** load? Hopefully it's more than the number
of working synapses in your head.
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: Pope Pius XII a step closer to sainthood |
13 May 2007 12:42:24 AM |
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On 13 Mai, 04:32, J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
His Holiness Pope Pius XII was a great man who has been unjustifiably
critcized for his role as the wartime Pontiff. May the rest of the
canonization process be swift so His Holiness can receive the
recognition he deserves.
A pope who indirectly supported the nazis... No surprise you like him.
Probably why you sent this posting to a Jewish discussion group as
well...
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