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Science > Abortion |
| User: |
"james g. keegan jr." |
| Date: |
11 Feb 2007 07:27:25 AM |
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Portugal votes on abortion reform |
Portugal votes on abortion reform
Voters in Portugal are deciding in a referendum whether the country's
strict laws on abortion should be relaxed.
Opinion polls suggest a slim majority of people back a government
proposal to give all women the right to an abortion up to the 10th
week of pregnancy.
But many are expected to abstain, making the result difficult to
predict.
The mainly Catholic country currently allows abortions up the 12th
week to save a woman's life or to preserve her mental or physical
health.
In cases of rape, abortions are allowed within 16 weeks. The limit is
24 weeks if there is a risk that the child will be born with an
incurable disease or deformity.
Portugal has one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the
European Union. Only Ireland, Malta and Poland have such similarly
strict legislation.
The choice placed before Portugal is whether it resigns itself to
staying in the group of the most conservative countries or if it
embraces modernity and joins the most developed nations
Prime Minister Jose Socrates
As a result many Portuguese women go to Spain for terminations or
resort to illegal abortions.
Some women have abortions done in unsanitary conditions and risk
ending up with infections or other serious complications from which
they may die.
Socialist Prime Minister Jose Socrates called for voters to back the
changes to put an end to the "national shame" of back-street
abortions.
"The choice placed before Portugal is whether it resigns itself to
staying in the group of the most conservative countries or if it
embraces modernity and joins the most developed nations," he said on
Thursday.
In a referendum held in 1998, voters upheld the existing abortion law
by 51% to 49%, but the result was declared void as nearly seven out
of 10 voters stayed away.
The Socialists made holding another referendum part of their election
platform in 2005. They have promised to act according to the result,
regardless of whether the turnout exceeds the 50% threshold that
would make it legally binding.
Jail threat
Voters are being asked to decide whether to make abortion legal in
the first 10 weeks of pregnancy, if carried out at the woman's
request in a registered clinic.
But since the wording says nothing about the woman having to justify
her decision, those against the reform say it is abortion on demand.
The idea of sending someone to prison for having an illegal abortion
is universally unpopular - the offence carries a jail sentence of up
to three years.
But many people in the staunchly Catholic country want the crime on
the statute books to stop abortion becoming routine.
The Catholic Church has gone further, saying that Catholics, who
account for 90% of Portugal's population, must oppose abortion.
"Whatever the motives that justify this dramatic act in the eyes of a
woman, it is always the denial of a place in the world for a human
life that was conceived," Cardinal Jose da Cruz Policarpo, the
Patriarch of Lisbon, has said.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/6350651.stm
Published: 2007/02/11 09:58:06 GMT
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| User: "John D.Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: Portugal votes on abortion reform |
11 Feb 2007 07:20:22 PM |
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In news:jgkeegan-002273.08272511022007@individual.net,
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> typed:
Portugal votes on abortion reform
Voters in Portugal are deciding in a referendum whether the country's
strict laws on abortion should be relaxed.
Opinion polls suggest a slim majority of people back a government
proposal to give all women the right to an abortion up to the 10th
week of pregnancy.
But many are expected to abstain, making the result difficult to
predict.
The mainly Catholic country currently allows abortions up the 12th
week to save a woman's life or to preserve her mental or physical
health.
In cases of rape, abortions are allowed within 16 weeks. The limit is
24 weeks if there is a risk that the child will be born with an
incurable disease or deformity.
Portugal has one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the
European Union. Only Ireland, Malta and Poland have such similarly
strict legislation.
The choice placed before Portugal is whether it resigns itself to
staying in the group of the most conservative countries or if it
embraces modernity and joins the most developed nations
Prime Minister Jose Socrates
As a result many Portuguese women go to Spain for terminations or
resort to illegal abortions.
Some women have abortions done in unsanitary conditions and risk
ending up with infections or other serious complications from which
they may die.
Socialist Prime Minister Jose Socrates called for voters to back the
changes to put an end to the "national shame" of back-street
abortions.
Doesn't he mean the national shame of communist governments screwing more
women than they are supposed to screw on the public dime?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Portugal votes on abortion reform |
11 Feb 2007 10:43:01 PM |
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John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:jgkeegan-002273.08272511022007@individual.net,
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> typed:
Portugal votes on abortion reform
Voters in Portugal are deciding in a referendum whether the country's
strict laws on abortion should be relaxed.
Opinion polls suggest a slim majority of people back a government
proposal to give all women the right to an abortion up to the 10th
week of pregnancy.
But many are expected to abstain, making the result difficult to
predict.
The mainly Catholic country currently allows abortions up the 12th
week to save a woman's life or to preserve her mental or physical
health.
In cases of rape, abortions are allowed within 16 weeks. The limit is
24 weeks if there is a risk that the child will be born with an
incurable disease or deformity.
Portugal has one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the
European Union. Only Ireland, Malta and Poland have such similarly
strict legislation.
The choice placed before Portugal is whether it resigns itself to
staying in the group of the most conservative countries or if it
embraces modernity and joins the most developed nations
Prime Minister Jose Socrates
As a result many Portuguese women go to Spain for terminations or
resort to illegal abortions.
Some women have abortions done in unsanitary conditions and risk
ending up with infections or other serious complications from which
they may die.
Socialist Prime Minister Jose Socrates called for voters to back the
changes to put an end to the "national shame" of back-street
abortions.
Doesn't he mean the national shame of communist governments screwing more
women than they are supposed to screw on the public dime?
Since 1) Portugal isn't communist, 2) changing the law gives women
more freedom, 3) there's no shame in freedom, 4) nobody would be
forcing women to do anything, it is obvious that you are just on one
of your insane rants again.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "John D.Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: Portugal votes on abortion reform |
12 Feb 2007 09:28:11 AM |
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In news:45cff055$0$14056$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:jgkeegan-002273.08272511022007@individual.net,
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> typed:
Portugal votes on abortion reform
Voters in Portugal are deciding in a referendum whether the
country's strict laws on abortion should be relaxed.
Opinion polls suggest a slim majority of people back a government
proposal to give all women the right to an abortion up to the 10th
week of pregnancy.
But many are expected to abstain, making the result difficult to
predict.
The mainly Catholic country currently allows abortions up the 12th
week to save a woman's life or to preserve her mental or physical
health.
In cases of rape, abortions are allowed within 16 weeks. The limit
is 24 weeks if there is a risk that the child will be born with an
incurable disease or deformity.
Portugal has one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the
European Union. Only Ireland, Malta and Poland have such similarly
strict legislation.
The choice placed before Portugal is whether it resigns itself to
staying in the group of the most conservative countries or if it
embraces modernity and joins the most developed nations
Prime Minister Jose Socrates
As a result many Portuguese women go to Spain for terminations or
resort to illegal abortions.
Some women have abortions done in unsanitary conditions and risk
ending up with infections or other serious complications from which
they may die.
Socialist Prime Minister Jose Socrates called for voters to back the
changes to put an end to the "national shame" of back-street
abortions.
Doesn't he mean the national shame of communist governments screwing
more women than they are supposed to screw on the public dime?
Since 1) Portugal isn't communist,
You only think that state control is freedom.
2) changing the law gives women more freedom,
Illegal gender bias which does nothing to ensure that men are free.
3) there's no shame in freedom,
There is plenty of shame in being a tax leech who screws more women than he
should and has his own children aborted.
4) nobody would be forcing women to do anything,
Actually, it forces them to become whores when the jobs of men are laid
waste by selfish, unjust, wimpy, gender-biased, tax leech abortionist
importation idiots.
it is obvious that you are just on one
of your insane rants again.
What is obvious is that the USA is in debt to the tune of $9 trillion.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Portugal votes on abortion reform |
12 Feb 2007 09:37:33 PM |
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John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45cff055$0$14056$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:jgkeegan-002273.08272511022007@individual.net,
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> typed:
Portugal votes on abortion reform
Voters in Portugal are deciding in a referendum whether the
country's strict laws on abortion should be relaxed.
Opinion polls suggest a slim majority of people back a government
proposal to give all women the right to an abortion up to the 10th
week of pregnancy.
But many are expected to abstain, making the result difficult to
predict.
The mainly Catholic country currently allows abortions up the 12th
week to save a woman's life or to preserve her mental or physical
health.
In cases of rape, abortions are allowed within 16 weeks. The limit
is 24 weeks if there is a risk that the child will be born with an
incurable disease or deformity.
Portugal has one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the
European Union. Only Ireland, Malta and Poland have such similarly
strict legislation.
The choice placed before Portugal is whether it resigns itself to
staying in the group of the most conservative countries or if it
embraces modernity and joins the most developed nations
Prime Minister Jose Socrates
As a result many Portuguese women go to Spain for terminations or
resort to illegal abortions.
Some women have abortions done in unsanitary conditions and risk
ending up with infections or other serious complications from which
they may die.
Socialist Prime Minister Jose Socrates called for voters to back the
changes to put an end to the "national shame" of back-street
abortions.
Doesn't he mean the national shame of communist governments screwing
more women than they are supposed to screw on the public dime?
Since 1) Portugal isn't communist,
You only think that state control is freedom.
You don't even know what YOU think, loser. You certainly don't know
what I think.
2) changing the law gives women more freedom,
Illegal gender bias
Is nothing but your idiocy and delusion.
3) there's no shame in freedom,
There is plenty of shame in being a tax leech
Like you?
4) nobody would be forcing women to do anything,
Actually, it forces them to become whores
You are an idiot.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "John D.Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: Portugal votes on abortion reform |
13 Feb 2007 10:43:01 AM |
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In news:45d1327d$0$14069$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45cff055$0$14056$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:jgkeegan-002273.08272511022007@individual.net,
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> typed:
Portugal votes on abortion reform
Voters in Portugal are deciding in a referendum whether the
country's strict laws on abortion should be relaxed.
Opinion polls suggest a slim majority of people back a government
proposal to give all women the right to an abortion up to the 10th
week of pregnancy.
But many are expected to abstain, making the result difficult to
predict.
The mainly Catholic country currently allows abortions up the 12th
week to save a woman's life or to preserve her mental or physical
health.
In cases of rape, abortions are allowed within 16 weeks. The limit
is 24 weeks if there is a risk that the child will be born with an
incurable disease or deformity.
Portugal has one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the
European Union. Only Ireland, Malta and Poland have such similarly
strict legislation.
The choice placed before Portugal is whether it resigns itself
to staying in the group of the most conservative countries or if
it embraces modernity and joins the most developed nations
Prime Minister Jose Socrates
As a result many Portuguese women go to Spain for terminations or
resort to illegal abortions.
Some women have abortions done in unsanitary conditions and risk
ending up with infections or other serious complications from
which they may die.
Socialist Prime Minister Jose Socrates called for voters to back
the changes to put an end to the "national shame" of back-street
abortions.
Doesn't he mean the national shame of communist governments
screwing more women than they are supposed to screw on the public
dime?
Since 1) Portugal isn't communist,
You only think that state control is freedom.
You don't even know what YOU think, loser.
I do by your words.
Occasionally, you seem just as normal as anyone should seem.
You certainly don't know
what I think.
You mean I actually never did perform an abortion, huh?
LOL!
2) changing the law gives women more freedom,
Illegal gender bias
Is nothing but your idiocy and delusion.
How is 'a woman's right to choose' not gender-bias in law?
3) there's no shame in freedom,
There is plenty of shame in being a tax leech
Like you?
I'm not a tax leech.
4) nobody would be forcing women to do anything,
Actually, it forces them to become whores
You are an idiot.
Still demanding that people pay for babies that other people create?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Portugal votes on abortion reform |
13 Feb 2007 09:33:49 PM |
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John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d1327d$0$14069$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45cff055$0$14056$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:jgkeegan-002273.08272511022007@individual.net,
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> typed:
Portugal votes on abortion reform
Voters in Portugal are deciding in a referendum whether the
country's strict laws on abortion should be relaxed.
Opinion polls suggest a slim majority of people back a government
proposal to give all women the right to an abortion up to the 10th
week of pregnancy.
But many are expected to abstain, making the result difficult to
predict.
The mainly Catholic country currently allows abortions up the 12th
week to save a woman's life or to preserve her mental or physical
health.
In cases of rape, abortions are allowed within 16 weeks. The limit
is 24 weeks if there is a risk that the child will be born with an
incurable disease or deformity.
Portugal has one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the
European Union. Only Ireland, Malta and Poland have such similarly
strict legislation.
The choice placed before Portugal is whether it resigns itself
to staying in the group of the most conservative countries or if
it embraces modernity and joins the most developed nations
Prime Minister Jose Socrates
As a result many Portuguese women go to Spain for terminations or
resort to illegal abortions.
Some women have abortions done in unsanitary conditions and risk
ending up with infections or other serious complications from
which they may die.
Socialist Prime Minister Jose Socrates called for voters to back
the changes to put an end to the "national shame" of back-street
abortions.
Doesn't he mean the national shame of communist governments
screwing more women than they are supposed to screw on the public
dime?
Since 1) Portugal isn't communist,
You only think that state control is freedom.
You don't even know what YOU think, loser.
I do by your words.
You decide what you think by what I write?!?
You _are_ an idiot.
You certainly don't know
what I think.
You mean I actually never did perform an abortion, huh?
No, idiot.
2) changing the law gives women more freedom,
Illegal gender bias
Is nothing but your idiocy and delusion.
How is 'a woman's right to choose' not gender-bias in law?
That's YOUR gender bias, idiot.
3) there's no shame in freedom,
There is plenty of shame in being a tax leech
Like you?
I'm not a tax leech.
Yes you are, loser. You get all of your income from government
handouts.
4) nobody would be forcing women to do anything,
Actually, it forces them to become whores
You are an idiot.
Still demanding that people pay for babies that other people create?
No, idiot.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "John D.Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: Portugal votes on abortion reform |
13 Feb 2007 11:48:27 PM |
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In news:45d2831d$0$14132$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d1327d$0$14069$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45cff055$0$14056$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:jgkeegan-002273.08272511022007@individual.net,
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> typed:
Portugal votes on abortion reform
Voters in Portugal are deciding in a referendum whether the
country's strict laws on abortion should be relaxed.
Opinion polls suggest a slim majority of people back a
government proposal to give all women the right to an abortion
up to the 10th week of pregnancy.
But many are expected to abstain, making the result difficult to
predict.
The mainly Catholic country currently allows abortions up the
12th week to save a woman's life or to preserve her mental or
physical health.
In cases of rape, abortions are allowed within 16 weeks. The
limit is 24 weeks if there is a risk that the child will be
born with an incurable disease or deformity.
Portugal has one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the
European Union. Only Ireland, Malta and Poland have such
similarly strict legislation.
The choice placed before Portugal is whether it resigns itself
to staying in the group of the most conservative countries or if
it embraces modernity and joins the most developed nations
Prime Minister Jose Socrates
As a result many Portuguese women go to Spain for terminations
or resort to illegal abortions.
Some women have abortions done in unsanitary conditions and risk
ending up with infections or other serious complications from
which they may die.
Socialist Prime Minister Jose Socrates called for voters to back
the changes to put an end to the "national shame" of back-street
abortions.
Doesn't he mean the national shame of communist governments
screwing more women than they are supposed to screw on the public
dime?
Since 1) Portugal isn't communist,
You only think that state control is freedom.
You don't even know what YOU think, loser.
I do by your words.
You decide what you think by what I write?!?
I know that if you think state control is proper that I think you are that
way.
You _are_ an idiot.
You certainly don't know
what I think.
You mean I actually never did perform an abortion, huh?
No, idiot.
I guess you missed then.
Why would you think as you do?
2) changing the law gives women more freedom,
Illegal gender bias
Is nothing but your idiocy and delusion.
How is 'a woman's right to choose' not gender-bias in law?
That's YOUR gender bias, idiot.
Mine?
It's in the law.
3) there's no shame in freedom,
There is plenty of shame in being a tax leech
Like you?
I'm not a tax leech.
Yes you are, loser. You get all of your income from government
handouts.
Why are you so mad?
4) nobody would be forcing women to do anything,
Actually, it forces them to become whores
You are an idiot.
Still demanding that people pay for babies that other people create?
No, idiot.
I guess you are seeing the light then.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Portugal votes on abortion reform |
14 Feb 2007 12:11:08 AM |
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John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d2831d$0$14132$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d1327d$0$14069$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45cff055$0$14056$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:jgkeegan-002273.08272511022007@individual.net,
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> typed:
Portugal votes on abortion reform
Voters in Portugal are deciding in a referendum whether the
country's strict laws on abortion should be relaxed.
Opinion polls suggest a slim majority of people back a
government proposal to give all women the right to an abortion
up to the 10th week of pregnancy.
But many are expected to abstain, making the result difficult to
predict.
The mainly Catholic country currently allows abortions up the
12th week to save a woman's life or to preserve her mental or
physical health.
In cases of rape, abortions are allowed within 16 weeks. The
limit is 24 weeks if there is a risk that the child will be
born with an incurable disease or deformity.
Portugal has one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the
European Union. Only Ireland, Malta and Poland have such
similarly strict legislation.
The choice placed before Portugal is whether it resigns itself
to staying in the group of the most conservative countries or if
it embraces modernity and joins the most developed nations
Prime Minister Jose Socrates
As a result many Portuguese women go to Spain for terminations
or resort to illegal abortions.
Some women have abortions done in unsanitary conditions and risk
ending up with infections or other serious complications from
which they may die.
Socialist Prime Minister Jose Socrates called for voters to back
the changes to put an end to the "national shame" of back-street
abortions.
Doesn't he mean the national shame of communist governments
screwing more women than they are supposed to screw on the public
dime?
Since 1) Portugal isn't communist,
You only think that state control is freedom.
You don't even know what YOU think, loser.
I do by your words.
You decide what you think by what I write?!?
I know that if you think state control is proper that I think you are that
way.
But YOU are a proponent of state control.
You certainly don't know
what I think.
You mean I actually never did perform an abortion, huh?
No, idiot.
I guess you missed then.
I guess that you're still an idiot.
2) changing the law gives women more freedom,
Illegal gender bias
Is nothing but your idiocy and delusion.
How is 'a woman's right to choose' not gender-bias in law?
That's YOUR gender bias, idiot.
Mine?
It's in the law.
No, idiot, it isn't.
3) there's no shame in freedom,
There is plenty of shame in being a tax leech
Like you?
I'm not a tax leech.
Yes you are, loser. You get all of your income from government
handouts.
Why are you so mad?
Why are you such an idiot?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "John D.Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: Portugal votes on abortion reform |
14 Feb 2007 12:47:26 AM |
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In news:45d2a7fc$0$14134$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d2831d$0$14132$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d1327d$0$14069$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45cff055$0$14056$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:jgkeegan-002273.08272511022007@individual.net,
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> typed:
Portugal votes on abortion reform
Voters in Portugal are deciding in a referendum whether the
country's strict laws on abortion should be relaxed.
Opinion polls suggest a slim majority of people back a
government proposal to give all women the right to an abortion
up to the 10th week of pregnancy.
But many are expected to abstain, making the result difficult
to predict.
The mainly Catholic country currently allows abortions up the
12th week to save a woman's life or to preserve her mental or
physical health.
In cases of rape, abortions are allowed within 16 weeks. The
limit is 24 weeks if there is a risk that the child will be
born with an incurable disease or deformity.
Portugal has one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the
European Union. Only Ireland, Malta and Poland have such
similarly strict legislation.
The choice placed before Portugal is whether it resigns
itself to staying in the group of the most conservative
countries or if it embraces modernity and joins the most
developed nations Prime Minister Jose Socrates
As a result many Portuguese women go to Spain for terminations
or resort to illegal abortions.
Some women have abortions done in unsanitary conditions and
risk ending up with infections or other serious complications
from which they may die.
Socialist Prime Minister Jose Socrates called for voters to
back the changes to put an end to the "national shame" of
back-street abortions.
Doesn't he mean the national shame of communist governments
screwing more women than they are supposed to screw on the
public dime?
Since 1) Portugal isn't communist,
You only think that state control is freedom.
You don't even know what YOU think, loser.
I do by your words.
You decide what you think by what I write?!?
I know that if you think state control is proper that I think you
are that way.
But YOU are a proponent of state control.
Really?
$500 to me isn't $500 to the state.
You certainly don't know
what I think.
You mean I actually never did perform an abortion, huh?
No, idiot.
I guess you missed then.
I guess that you're still an idiot.
Good.
When can I expect my check?
2) changing the law gives women more freedom,
Illegal gender bias
Is nothing but your idiocy and delusion.
How is 'a woman's right to choose' not gender-bias in law?
That's YOUR gender bias, idiot.
Mine?
It's in the law.
No, idiot, it isn't.
Is this where you need to send me the $500?
3) there's no shame in freedom,
There is plenty of shame in being a tax leech
Like you?
I'm not a tax leech.
Yes you are, loser. You get all of your income from government
handouts.
Why are you so mad?
Why are you such an idiot?
Meaning the money won't arrive 'til next week?
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| Title: Re: Portugal votes on abortion reform |
14 Feb 2007 11:04:20 AM |
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John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d2a7fc$0$14134$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d2831d$0$14132$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d1327d$0$14069$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45cff055$0$14056$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:jgkeegan-002273.08272511022007@individual.net,
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> typed:
Portugal votes on abortion reform
Voters in Portugal are deciding in a referendum whether the
country's strict laws on abortion should be relaxed.
Opinion polls suggest a slim majority of people back a
government proposal to give all women the right to an abortion
up to the 10th week of pregnancy.
But many are expected to abstain, making the result difficult
to predict.
The mainly Catholic country currently allows abortions up the
12th week to save a woman's life or to preserve her mental or
physical health.
In cases of rape, abortions are allowed within 16 weeks. The
limit is 24 weeks if there is a risk that the child will be
born with an incurable disease or deformity.
Portugal has one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the
European Union. Only Ireland, Malta and Poland have such
similarly strict legislation.
The choice placed before Portugal is whether it resigns
itself to staying in the group of the most conservative
countries or if it embraces modernity and joins the most
developed nations Prime Minister Jose Socrates
As a result many Portuguese women go to Spain for terminations
or resort to illegal abortions.
Some women have abortions done in unsanitary conditions and
risk ending up with infections or other serious complications
from which they may die.
Socialist Prime Minister Jose Socrates called for voters to
back the changes to put an end to the "national shame" of
back-street abortions.
Doesn't he mean the national shame of communist governments
screwing more women than they are supposed to screw on the
public dime?
Since 1) Portugal isn't communist,
You only think that state control is freedom.
You don't even know what YOU think, loser.
I do by your words.
You decide what you think by what I write?!?
I know that if you think state control is proper that I think you
are that way.
But YOU are a proponent of state control.
Really?
Yes. YOU want the state to control women, for example.
$500 to me isn't $500 to the state.
Yes, it is, idiot.
2) changing the law gives women more freedom,
Illegal gender bias
Is nothing but your idiocy and delusion.
How is 'a woman's right to choose' not gender-bias in law?
That's YOUR gender bias, idiot.
Mine?
It's in the law.
No, idiot, it isn't.
Is this where you need to send me the $500?
This is where you're still an idiot.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "John D.Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: Portugal votes on abortion reform |
14 Feb 2007 06:17:18 PM |
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In news:45d34114$0$14073$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d2a7fc$0$14134$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d2831d$0$14132$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d1327d$0$14069$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45cff055$0$14056$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:jgkeegan-002273.08272511022007@individual.net,
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> typed:
Portugal votes on abortion reform
Voters in Portugal are deciding in a referendum whether the
country's strict laws on abortion should be relaxed.
Opinion polls suggest a slim majority of people back a
government proposal to give all women the right to an
abortion up to the 10th week of pregnancy.
But many are expected to abstain, making the result
difficult to predict.
The mainly Catholic country currently allows abortions up
the 12th week to save a woman's life or to preserve her
mental or physical health.
In cases of rape, abortions are allowed within 16 weeks. The
limit is 24 weeks if there is a risk that the child will be
born with an incurable disease or deformity.
Portugal has one of the most restrictive abortion laws in
the European Union. Only Ireland, Malta and Poland have such
similarly strict legislation.
The choice placed before Portugal is whether it resigns
itself to staying in the group of the most conservative
countries or if it embraces modernity and joins the most
developed nations Prime Minister Jose Socrates
As a result many Portuguese women go to Spain for
terminations or resort to illegal abortions.
Some women have abortions done in unsanitary conditions and
risk ending up with infections or other serious
complications from which they may die.
Socialist Prime Minister Jose Socrates called for voters to
back the changes to put an end to the "national shame" of
back-street abortions.
Doesn't he mean the national shame of communist governments
screwing more women than they are supposed to screw on the
public dime?
Since 1) Portugal isn't communist,
You only think that state control is freedom.
You don't even know what YOU think, loser.
I do by your words.
You decide what you think by what I write?!?
I know that if you think state control is proper that I think you
are that way.
But YOU are a proponent of state control.
Really?
Yes. YOU want the state to control women, for example.
How?
$500 to me isn't $500 to the state.
Yes, it is, idiot.
I am the State now?
Maybe i will try more diligently to work for the people then.
You know if I were the state as this point in time there are many codes that
you would be subject to.
But, who in their right mind would want to be the State at this point?
There is too much to monitor.
2) changing the law gives women more freedom,
Illegal gender bias
Is nothing but your idiocy and delusion.
How is 'a woman's right to choose' not gender-bias in law?
That's YOUR gender bias, idiot.
Mine?
It's in the law.
No, idiot, it isn't.
Is this where you need to send me the $500?
This is where you're still an idiot.
$5000?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Portugal votes on abortion reform |
14 Feb 2007 09:54:33 PM |
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John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d34114$0$14073$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d2a7fc$0$14134$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d2831d$0$14132$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d1327d$0$14069$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45cff055$0$14056$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:jgkeegan-002273.08272511022007@individual.net,
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> typed:
Portugal votes on abortion reform
Voters in Portugal are deciding in a referendum whether the
country's strict laws on abortion should be relaxed.
Opinion polls suggest a slim majority of people back a
government proposal to give all women the right to an
abortion up to the 10th week of pregnancy.
But many are expected to abstain, making the result
difficult to predict.
The mainly Catholic country currently allows abortions up
the 12th week to save a woman's life or to preserve her
mental or physical health.
In cases of rape, abortions are allowed within 16 weeks. The
limit is 24 weeks if there is a risk that the child will be
born with an incurable disease or deformity.
Portugal has one of the most restrictive abortion laws in
the European Union. Only Ireland, Malta and Poland have such
similarly strict legislation.
The choice placed before Portugal is whether it resigns
itself to staying in the group of the most conservative
countries or if it embraces modernity and joins the most
developed nations Prime Minister Jose Socrates
As a result many Portuguese women go to Spain for
terminations or resort to illegal abortions.
Some women have abortions done in unsanitary conditions and
risk ending up with infections or other serious
complications from which they may die.
Socialist Prime Minister Jose Socrates called for voters to
back the changes to put an end to the "national shame" of
back-street abortions.
Doesn't he mean the national shame of communist governments
screwing more women than they are supposed to screw on the
public dime?
Since 1) Portugal isn't communist,
You only think that state control is freedom.
You don't even know what YOU think, loser.
I do by your words.
You decide what you think by what I write?!?
I know that if you think state control is proper that I think you
are that way.
But YOU are a proponent of state control.
Really?
Yes. YOU want the state to control women, for example.
How?
By forcing them to gestate and give birth, idiot.
$500 to me isn't $500 to the state.
Yes, it is, idiot.
I am the State now?
No, idiot. $500 is $500.
Maybe i will try more diligently to work for the people then.
Maybe you should get off of your lazy ***** and work
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "John D.Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: Portugal votes on abortion reform |
14 Feb 2007 10:05:33 PM |
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In news:45d3d979$0$14099$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d34114$0$14073$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d2a7fc$0$14134$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d2831d$0$14132$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d1327d$0$14069$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45cff055$0$14056$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:jgkeegan-002273.08272511022007@individual.net,
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> typed:
Portugal votes on abortion reform
Voters in Portugal are deciding in a referendum whether
the country's strict laws on abortion should be relaxed.
Opinion polls suggest a slim majority of people back a
government proposal to give all women the right to an
abortion up to the 10th week of pregnancy.
But many are expected to abstain, making the result
difficult to predict.
The mainly Catholic country currently allows abortions up
the 12th week to save a woman's life or to preserve her
mental or physical health.
In cases of rape, abortions are allowed within 16 weeks.
The limit is 24 weeks if there is a risk that the child
will be born with an incurable disease or deformity.
Portugal has one of the most restrictive abortion laws in
the European Union. Only Ireland, Malta and Poland have
such similarly strict legislation.
The choice placed before Portugal is whether it resigns
itself to staying in the group of the most conservative
countries or if it embraces modernity and joins the most
developed nations Prime Minister Jose Socrates
As a result many Portuguese women go to Spain for
terminations or resort to illegal abortions.
Some women have abortions done in unsanitary conditions
and risk ending up with infections or other serious
complications from which they may die.
Socialist Prime Minister Jose Socrates called for voters
to back the changes to put an end to the "national shame"
of back-street abortions.
Doesn't he mean the national shame of communist governments
screwing more women than they are supposed to screw on the
public dime?
Since 1) Portugal isn't communist,
You only think that state control is freedom.
You don't even know what YOU think, loser.
I do by your words.
You decide what you think by what I write?!?
I know that if you think state control is proper that I think you
are that way.
But YOU are a proponent of state control.
Really?
Yes. YOU want the state to control women, for example.
How?
By forcing them to gestate and give birth, idiot.
What force?
You mean by the force of law that would make it a crime to have an abortion?
You think I want to imprison women who some other person attacks via
abortion?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Portugal votes on abortion reform |
14 Feb 2007 10:23:35 PM |
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John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d3d979$0$14099$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d34114$0$14073$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d2a7fc$0$14134$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d2831d$0$14132$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d1327d$0$14069$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45cff055$0$14056$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:jgkeegan-002273.08272511022007@individual.net,
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> typed:
Portugal votes on abortion reform
Voters in Portugal are deciding in a referendum whether
the country's strict laws on abortion should be relaxed.
Opinion polls suggest a slim majority of people back a
government proposal to give all women the right to an
abortion up to the 10th week of pregnancy.
But many are expected to abstain, making the result
difficult to predict.
The mainly Catholic country currently allows abortions up
the 12th week to save a woman's life or to preserve her
mental or physical health.
In cases of rape, abortions are allowed within 16 weeks.
The limit is 24 weeks if there is a risk that the child
will be born with an incurable disease or deformity.
Portugal has one of the most restrictive abortion laws in
the European Union. Only Ireland, Malta and Poland have
such similarly strict legislation.
The choice placed before Portugal is whether it resigns
itself to staying in the group of the most conservative
countries or if it embraces modernity and joins the most
developed nations Prime Minister Jose Socrates
As a result many Portuguese women go to Spain for
terminations or resort to illegal abortions.
Some women have abortions done in unsanitary conditions
and risk ending up with infections or other serious
complications from which they may die.
Socialist Prime Minister Jose Socrates called for voters
to back the changes to put an end to the "national shame"
of back-street abortions.
Doesn't he mean the national shame of communist governments
screwing more women than they are supposed to screw on the
public dime?
Since 1) Portugal isn't communist,
You only think that state control is freedom.
You don't even know what YOU think, loser.
I do by your words.
You decide what you think by what I write?!?
I know that if you think state control is proper that I think you
are that way.
But YOU are a proponent of state control.
Really?
Yes. YOU want the state to control women, for example.
How?
By forcing them to gestate and give birth, idiot.
What force?
You mean by the force of law that would make it a crime to have an abortion?
That is using the state to control women.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "John D.Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: Portugal votes on abortion reform |
15 Feb 2007 12:34:15 AM |
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In news:45d3e047$0$14134$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d3d979$0$14099$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d34114$0$14073$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d2a7fc$0$14134$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d2831d$0$14132$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d1327d$0$14069$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45cff055$0$14056$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:jgkeegan-002273.08272511022007@individual.net,
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> typed:
Portugal votes on abortion reform
Voters in Portugal are deciding in a referendum whether
the country's strict laws on abortion should be relaxed.
Opinion polls suggest a slim majority of people back a
government proposal to give all women the right to an
abortion up to the 10th week of pregnancy.
But many are expected to abstain, making the result
difficult to predict.
The mainly Catholic country currently allows abortions
up the 12th week to save a woman's life or to preserve
her mental or physical health.
In cases of rape, abortions are allowed within 16 weeks.
The limit is 24 weeks if there is a risk that the child
will be born with an incurable disease or deformity.
Portugal has one of the most restrictive abortion laws
in the European Union. Only Ireland, Malta and Poland
have such similarly strict legislation.
The choice placed before Portugal is whether it
resigns itself to staying in the group of the most
conservative countries or if it embraces modernity and
joins the most developed nations Prime Minister Jose
Socrates
As a result many Portuguese women go to Spain for
terminations or resort to illegal abortions.
Some women have abortions done in unsanitary conditions
and risk ending up with infections or other serious
complications from which they may die.
Socialist Prime Minister Jose Socrates called for voters
to back the changes to put an end to the "national
shame" of back-street abortions.
Doesn't he mean the national shame of communist
governments screwing more women than they are supposed
to screw on the public dime?
Since 1) Portugal isn't communist,
You only think that state control is freedom.
You don't even know what YOU think, loser.
I do by your words.
You decide what you think by what I write?!?
I know that if you think state control is proper that I think
you are that way.
But YOU are a proponent of state control.
Really?
Yes. YOU want the state to control women, for example.
How?
By forcing them to gestate and give birth, idiot.
What force?
You mean by the force of law that would make it a crime to have an
abortion?
That is using the state to control women.
In your world abortions are only womens' doing.
Why do you like to pick on women so much?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Portugal votes on abortion reform |
15 Feb 2007 11:34:03 AM |
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John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
Since 1) Portugal isn't communist,
You only think that state control is freedom.
You don't even know what YOU think, loser.
I do by your words.
You decide what you think by what I write?!?
I know that if you think state control is proper that I think
you are that way.
But YOU are a proponent of state control.
Really?
Yes. YOU want the state to control women, for example.
How?
By forcing them to gestate and give birth, idiot.
What force?
You mean by the force of law that would make it a crime to have an
abortion?
That is using the state to control women.
In your world abortions are only womens' doing.
In my world only women get abortions. What world do you live in?
Why do you like to pick on women so much?
Why are you such an idiot loser?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "John D.Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: Portugal votes on abortion reform |
15 Feb 2007 01:40:48 PM |
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In news:45d4998b$0$14103$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
Since 1) Portugal isn't communist,
You only think that state control is freedom.
You don't even know what YOU think, loser.
I do by your words.
You decide what you think by what I write?!?
I know that if you think state control is proper that I think
you are that way.
But YOU are a proponent of state control.
Really?
Yes. YOU want the state to control women, for example.
How?
By forcing them to gestate and give birth, idiot.
What force?
You mean by the force of law that would make it a crime to have an
abortion?
That is using the state to control women.
In your world abortions are only womens' doing.
In my world only women get abortions. What world do you live in?
I live in a world where pregnancies are not created by women alone.
Why do you like to ignore that fact so much?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Portugal votes on abortion reform |
15 Feb 2007 10:12:24 PM |
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John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
In news:45d4998b$0$14103$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> typed:
Since 1) Portugal isn't communist,
You only think that state control is freedom.
You don't even know what YOU think, loser.
I do by your words.
You decide what you think by what I write?!?
I know that if you think state control is proper that I think
you are that way.
But YOU are a proponent of state control.
Really?
Yes. YOU want the state to control women, for example.
How?
By forcing them to gestate and give birth, idiot.
What force?
You mean by the force of law that would make it a crime to have an
abortion?
That is using the state to control women.
In your world abortions are only womens' doing.
In my world only women get abortions. What world do you live in?
I live in a world where pregnancies are not created by women alone.
You're changing the subject, idiot
Why do you like to ignore that fact so much?
Why do you like to take drugs, idiot?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Pr0r3p" |
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| Title: Re: Portugal votes on abortion reform |
12 Feb 2007 03:14:31 PM |
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On Feb 12, 10:28 am, "John D.Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:
Innews:45cff055$0$14056$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfisc...@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
Innews:jgkeegan-002273.08272511022007@individual.net,
james g. keegan jr. <jgkee...@gmail.com> typed:
Portugal votes on abortion reform
Voters in Portugal are deciding in a referendum whether the
country's strict laws on abortion should be relaxed.
Opinion polls suggest a slim majority of people back a government
proposal to give all women the right to an abortion up to the 10th
week of pregnancy.
But many are expected to abstain, making the result difficult to
predict.
The mainly Catholic country currently allows abortions up the 12th
week to save a woman's life or to preserve her mental or physical
health.
In cases of rape, abortions are allowed within 16 weeks. The limit
is 24 weeks if there is a risk that the child will be born with an
incurable disease or deformity.
Portugal has one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the
European Union. Only Ireland, Malta and Poland have such similarly
strict legislation.
The choice placed before Portugal is whether it resigns itself to
staying in the group of the most conservative countries or if it
embraces modernity and joins the most developed nations
Prime Minister Jose Socrates
As a result many Portuguese women go to Spain for terminations or
resort to illegal abortions.
Some women have abortions done in unsanitary conditions and risk
ending up with infections or other serious complications from which
they may die.
Socialist Prime Minister Jose Socrates called for voters to back the
changes to put an end to the "national shame" of back-street
abortions.
Doesn't he mean the national shame of communist governments screwing
more women than they are supposed to screw on the public dime?
Since 1) Portugal isn't communist,
You only think that state control is freedom.
2) changing the law gives women more freedom,
Illegal gender bias which does nothing to ensure that men are free.
3) there's no shame in freedom,
There is plenty of shame in being a tax leech who screws more women than he
should and has his own children aborted.
4) nobody would be forcing women to do anything,
Actually, it forces them to become whores when the jobs of men are laid
waste by selfish, unjust, wimpy, gender-biased, tax leech abortionist
importation idiots.
it is obvious that you are just on one
of your insane rants again.
What is obvious is that the USA is in debt to the tune of $9 trillion.
Mostly due to a pro-life, anti-abortion President. Congratulations,
you've gotten exactly what you been asking for.
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| User: "John D.Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: Portugal votes on abortion reform |
12 Feb 2007 03:42:31 PM |
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In news:1171314871.607759.296270@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com,
Pr0r3p <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> typed:
On Feb 12, 10:28 am, "John D.Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:
Innews:45cff055$0$14056$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfisc...@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
Innews:jgkeegan-002273.08272511022007@individual.net,
james g. keegan jr. <jgkee...@gmail.com> typed:
Portugal votes on abortion reform
Voters in Portugal are deciding in a referendum whether the
country's strict laws on abortion should be relaxed.
Opinion polls suggest a slim majority of people back a government
proposal to give all women the right to an abortion up to the 10th
week of pregnancy.
But many are expected to abstain, making the result difficult to
predict.
The mainly Catholic country currently allows abortions up the 12th
week to save a woman's life or to preserve her mental or physical
health.
In cases of rape, abortions are allowed within 16 weeks. The limit
is 24 weeks if there is a risk that the child will be born with an
incurable disease or deformity.
Portugal has one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the
European Union. Only Ireland, Malta and Poland have such similarly
strict legislation.
The choice placed before Portugal is whether it resigns itself
to staying in the group of the most conservative countries or if
it embraces modernity and joins the most developed nations
Prime Minister Jose Socrates
As a result many Portuguese women go to Spain for terminations or
resort to illegal abortions.
Some women have abortions done in unsanitary conditions and risk
ending up with infections or other serious complications from
which they may die.
Socialist Prime Minister Jose Socrates called for voters to back
the changes to put an end to the "national shame" of back-street
abortions.
Doesn't he mean the national shame of communist governments
screwing more women than they are supposed to screw on the public
dime?
Since 1) Portugal isn't communist,
You only think that state control is freedom.
2) changing the law gives women more freedom,
Illegal gender bias which does nothing to ensure that men are free.
3) there's no shame in freedom,
There is plenty of shame in being a tax leech who screws more women
than he should and has his own children aborted.
4) nobody would be forcing women to do anything,
Actually, it forces them to become whores when the jobs of men are
laid waste by selfish, unjust, wimpy, gender-biased, tax leech
abortionist importation idiots.
it is obvious that you are just on one
of your insane rants again.
What is obvious is that the USA is in debt to the tune of $9
trillion.
Mostly due to a pro-life, anti-abortion President. Congratulations,
you've gotten exactly what you been asking for.
One accusation about the President of the USA, and no mention of any
sociodemographic or economic factors at all since 1973 is quite far from
convincing.
.
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| User: "Pr0r3p" |
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| Title: Re: Portugal votes on abortion reform |
12 Feb 2007 06:31:45 PM |
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On Feb 12, 4:42 pm, "John D.Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:
Innews:1171314871.607759.296270@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com,
Pr0r3p <pr0...@yahoo.com> typed:
On Feb 12, 10:28 am, "John D.Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:
Innews:45cff055$0$14056$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfisc...@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
Innews:jgkeegan-002273.08272511022007@individual.net,
james g. keegan jr. <jgkee...@gmail.com> typed:
Portugal votes on abortion reform
Voters in Portugal are deciding in a referendum whether the
country's strict laws on abortion should be relaxed.
Opinion polls suggest a slim majority of people back a government
proposal to give all women the right to an abortion up to the 10th
week of pregnancy.
But many are expected to abstain, making the result difficult to
predict.
The mainly Catholic country currently allows abortions up the 12th
week to save a woman's life or to preserve her mental or physical
health.
In cases of rape, abortions are allowed within 16 weeks. The limit
is 24 weeks if there is a risk that the child will be born with an
incurable disease or deformity.
Portugal has one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the
European Union. Only Ireland, Malta and Poland have such similarly
strict legislation.
The choice placed before Portugal is whether it resigns itself
to staying in the group of the most conservative countries or if
it embraces modernity and joins the most developed nations
Prime Minister Jose Socrates
As a result many Portuguese women go to Spain for terminations or
resort to illegal abortions.
Some women have abortions done in unsanitary conditions and risk
ending up with infections or other serious complications from
which they may die.
Socialist Prime Minister Jose Socrates called for voters to back
the changes to put an end to the "national shame" of back-street
abortions.
Doesn't he mean the national shame of communist governments
screwing more women than they are supposed to screw on the public
dime?
Since 1) Portugal isn't communist,
You only think that state control is freedom.
2) changing the law gives women more freedom,
Illegal gender bias which does nothing to ensure that men are free.
3) there's no shame in freedom,
There is plenty of shame in being a tax leech who screws more women
than he should and has his own children aborted.
4) nobody would be forcing women to do anything,
Actually, it forces them to become whores when the jobs of men are
laid waste by selfish, unjust, wimpy, gender-biased, tax leech
abortionist importation idiots.
it is obvious that you are just on one
of your insane rants again.
What is obvious is that the USA is in debt to the tune of $9
trillion.
Mostly due to a pro-life, anti-abortion President. Congratulations,
you've gotten exactly what you been asking for.
One accusation about the President of the USA, and no mention of any
sociodemographic or economic factors at all since 1973 is quite far from
convincing.
It's not an accusation, it a fact.
http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
And, the debt was on a decline through 1973 until about 1980 when
Bush Sr showed up on the scene. But, I'm sure you'll find a way to
deny the facts and whine about how R v W is responsible even though
you have no evidence to prove your claim.
But, thanks for playing and allowing me to show everyone how your mind
really works.
.
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| User: "John D.Wentzky" |
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| Title: Re: Portugal votes on abortion reform |
12 Feb 2007 08:33:11 PM |
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In news:1171326705.822079.159650@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com,
Pr0r3p <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> typed:
On Feb 12, 4:42 pm, "John D.Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:
Innews:1171314871.607759.296270@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com,
Pr0r3p <pr0...@yahoo.com> typed:
On Feb 12, 10:28 am, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
Innews:45cff055$0$14056$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfisc...@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
Innews:jgkeegan-002273.08272511022007@individual.net,
james g. keegan jr. <jgkee...@gmail.com> typed:
Portugal votes on abortion reform
Voters in Portugal are deciding in a referendum whether the
country's strict laws on abortion should be relaxed.
Opinion polls suggest a slim majority of people back a
government proposal to give all women the right to an abortion
up to the 10th week of pregnancy.
But many are expected to abstain, making the result difficult to
predict.
The mainly Catholic country currently allows abortions up the
12th week to save a woman's life or to preserve her mental or
physical health.
In cases of rape, abortions are allowed within 16 weeks. The
limit is 24 weeks if there is a risk that the child will be
born with an incurable disease or deformity.
Portugal has one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the
European Union. Only Ireland, Malta and Poland have such
similarly strict legislation.
The choice placed before Portugal is whether it resigns itself
to staying in the group of the most conservative countries or if
it embraces modernity and joins the most developed nations
Prime Minister Jose Socrates
As a result many Portuguese women go to Spain for terminations
or resort to illegal abortions.
Some women have abortions done in unsanitary conditions and risk
ending up with infections or other serious complications from
which they may die.
Socialist Prime Minister Jose Socrates called for voters to back
the changes to put an end to the "national shame" of back-street
abortions.
Doesn't he mean the national shame of communist governments
screwing more women than they are supposed to screw on the public
dime?
Since 1) Portugal isn't communist,
You only think that state control is freedom.
2) changing the law gives women more freedom,
Illegal gender bias which does nothing to ensure that men are free.
3) there's no shame in freedom,
There is plenty of shame in being a tax leech who screws more women
than he should and has his own children aborted.
4) nobody would be forcing women to do anything,
Actually, it forces them to become whores when the jobs of men are
laid waste by selfish, unjust, wimpy, gender-biased, tax leech
abortionist importation idiots.
it is obvious that you are just on one
of your insane rants again.
What is obvious is that the USA is in debt to the tune of $9
trillion.
Mostly due to a pro-life, anti-abortion President. Congratulations,
you've gotten exactly what you been asking for.
One accusation about the President of the USA, and no mention of any
sociodemographic or economic factors at all since 1973 is quite far
from convincing.
It's not an accusation, it a fact.
Mostly?
http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
And, the debt was on a decline through 1973 until about 1980 when
Bush Sr showed up on the scene. But, I'm sure you'll find a way to
deny the facts and whine about how R v W is responsible even though
you have no evidence to prove your claim.
Look at the raw debt graph on that page.
Don't forget 1967 in CA and 1970 in NY.
Then look at 1972-3 and notice the real rise beginning after the OPEC oil
embargo set in.
But, thanks for playing and allowing me to show everyone how your mind
really works.
.
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| User: "Pr0r3p" |
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| Title: Re: Portugal votes on abortion reform |
13 Feb 2007 07:23:35 AM |
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On Feb 12, 9:33 pm, "John D.Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:
Innews:1171326705.822079.159650@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com,Pr0r3p<pr0...@yahoo.com> typed:
On Feb 12, 4:42 pm, "John D.Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:
Innews:1171314871.607759.296270@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com,
Pr0r3p<pr0...@yahoo.com> typed:
On Feb 12, 10:28 am, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
Innews:45cff055$0$14056$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net,
Ray Fischer <rfisc...@sonic.net> typed:
John D.Wentzky <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
Innews:jgkeegan-002273.08272511022007@individual.net,
james g. keegan jr. <jgkee...@gmail.com> typed:
Portugal votes on abortion reform
Voters in Portugal are deciding in a referendum whether the
country's strict laws on abortion should be relaxed.
Opinion polls suggest a slim majority of people back a
government proposal to give all women the right to an abortion
up to the 10th week of pregnancy.
But many are expected to abstain, making the result difficult to
predict.
The mainly Catholic country currently allows abortions up the
12th week to save a woman's life or to preserve her mental or
physical health.
In cases of rape, abortions are allowed within 16 weeks. The
limit is 24 weeks if there is a risk that the child will be
born with an incurable disease or deformity.
Portugal has one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the
European Union. Only Ireland, Malta and Poland have such
similarly strict legislation.
The choice placed before Portugal is whether it resigns itself
to staying in the group of the most conservative countries or if
it embraces modernity and joins the most developed nations
Prime Minister Jose Socrates
As a result many Portuguese women go to Spain for terminations
or resort to illegal abortions.
Some women have abortions done in unsanitary conditions and risk
ending up with infections or other serious complications from
which they may die.
Socialist Prime Minister Jose Socrates called for voters to back
the changes to put an end to the "national shame" of back-street
abortions.
Doesn't he mean the national shame of communist governments
screwing more women than they are supposed to screw on the public
dime?
Since 1) Portugal isn't communist,
You only think that state control is freedom.
2) changing the law gives women more freedom,
Illegal gender bias which does nothing to ensure that men are free.
3) there's no shame in freedom,
There is plenty of shame in being a tax leech who screws more women
than he should and has his own children aborted.
4) nobody would be forcing women to do anything,
Actually, it forces them to become whores when the jobs of men are
laid waste by selfish, unjust, wimpy, gender-biased, tax leech
abortionist importation idiots.
it is obvious that you are just on one
of your insane rants again.
What is obvious is that the USA is in debt to the tune of $9
trillion.
Mostly due to a pro-life, anti-abortion President. Congratulations,
you've gotten exactly what you been asking for.
One accusation about the President of the USA, and no mention of any
sociodemographic or economic factors at all since 1973 is quite far
from convincing.
It's not an accusation, it a fact.
Mostly?
Entirely.
http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
And, the debt was on a decline through 1973 until about 1980 when
Bush Sr showed up on the scene. But, I'm sure you'll find a way to
deny the facts and whine about how R v W is responsible even though
you have no evidence to prove your claim.
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