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Science > Abortion |
| User: |
"J Young" |
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23 Oct 2006 11:44:12 PM |
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Prayer rally to protest ACLU suit |
Once again, the ACLU finds itself on the wrong end of an issue. Does the
concept of 'decency' hold any bearing with this organization?
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061011/COUNTY10/610110390/1006/NEWS
Mt. Juliet official wants religion to be part of school
The date is marked on Peggy Clark's calendar: 6 p.m. Oct. 24, Lakeview
Elementary School in Mt. Juliet.
That's when and where Clark plans to participate in a prayer rally organized
by a Mt. Juliet city commissioner in support of the school in a legal battle
over separation of church and state.
"I understand there's a separation of church and state, but schools are a
different thing; somebody needs to teach those kids," said Clark, 67, who
said her education in public schools started with a prayer.
"A lot of people I know object to it, but if your school had more of what I
was raised with, we wouldn't have all this mess that we have now. We
wouldn't have guns in schools."
The prayer rally is organized by Mt. Juliet Commissioner Glen Linthicum, who
said it was time for the community to take a stand against what he called a
"frivolous" lawsuit recently filed by the Tennessee chapter of the American
Civil Liberties Union against the Wilson County school district.
The suit, filed on behalf of a local family, alleges that religious
activities endorsed by Lakeview Elementary resulted in constitutional
violations.
"What I hope to accomplish is to send a clear message to ACLU and the rest
of Tennessee that Mt. Juliet stands for traditional values in America and
that ACLU needs to ply their trade elsewhere," Linthicum said.
"This is an important fundamental question that faces America today, the
attack on traditional values in America. Are we going to allow our heritage
to be suppressed by a progressive minority?"
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J Yöung
youngopinions@aol.com
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer rally to protest ACLU suit |
27 Oct 2006 07:53:02 AM |
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On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 03:02:49 GMT Julius Limbani <wild@geese.edu> said
the following in alt.atheism and I was immediately reminded of 1,000
Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah" for some reason...
Content-Type: image/jpeg;
name="bitch9ek.jpg"
Y'know, it's freaking hysterical watching this guy get so smashed by
everyone that he's reduced to posting silly binaries. Little Julius
has releived that he's a moron, and can only communicate with other
people's work.
I'll feel sorry for him in a bit. Right now I'm having too much fun
laughing at him.
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Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer rally to protest ACLU suit |
26 Oct 2006 01:59:06 AM |
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Julius Limbani <wild@geese.edu> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Julius Limbani <wild@geese.edu> wrote:
John Baker wrote:
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:46:27 GMT, Julius Limbani <wild@geese.edu>
wrote:
Attila < wrote:
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:52:12 -0700, "Larry (Scratch)"
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<1aednY9Vo8flQqPYnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@comcast.com> wrote:
Parsifal wrote:
J Young schrieb:
Once again, the ACLU finds itself on the wrong end of an issue.
Idiot. Your systematical opposition to the ACLU shows that 1- you don't
know anything about your history, 2- you hate democracy, 3- you hate
your country, 4- you're a hypocrit *****.
But all knew that.
The ACLU is a POS organization that someone should blow to hell! They
are anti-American and anti anything decent. They ought to send it to
North Korea where it would be welcome with open arms.
It is an organization whose sole function is to defend the
Constitution.
NAMBLA = The Constitution????
Specifically, the First Amendment. Freedom of expression is for
everybody,
Butt ***** boys and instruct others how to, right perv?
You sure do think about
ACLU = NAMBLA
You're just projecting, pervert.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Julius Limbani" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer rally to protest ACLU suit |
26 Oct 2006 12:28:51 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Julius Limbani <wild@geese.edu> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Julius Limbani <wild@geese.edu> wrote:
John Baker wrote:
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:46:27 GMT, Julius Limbani <wild@geese.edu>
wrote:
Attila < wrote:
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:52:12 -0700, "Larry (Scratch)"
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<1aednY9Vo8flQqPYnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@comcast.com> wrote:
Parsifal wrote:
J Young schrieb:
Once again, the ACLU finds itself on the wrong end of an issue.
Idiot. Your systematical opposition to the ACLU shows that 1- you don't
know anything about your history, 2- you hate democracy, 3- you hate
your country, 4- you're a hypocrit *****.
But all knew that.
The ACLU is a POS organization that someone should blow to hell! They
are anti-American and anti anything decent. They ought to send it to
North Korea where it would be welcome with open arms.
It is an organization whose sole function is to defend the
Constitution.
NAMBLA = The Constitution????
Specifically, the First Amendment. Freedom of expression is for
everybody,
Butt ***** boys and instruct others how to, right perv?
You sure do think about
ACLU = NAMBLA
You're just projecting
No...it's A FACT:
http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/Rage/NAMBLARAGEPAGE.html
BOSTON -- The American Civil Liberties Union will represent a group that
advocates sex between men and boys in a lawsuit brought by the family of
a slain 10-year-old.
The family of Jeffrey Curley of Cambridge said the North American
Man/Boy Love Association and its website which is now offline incited
the attempted molestation and murder of the boy on Oct. 1, 1997.
One of two men convicted in the killing, Charles Jaynes, 25, reportedly
viewed the group's website shortly before the killing, and also had in
his possession some of NAMBLA's publications. Also convicted in the
killing was 24-year-old Salvatore Sicari.
The ACLU said the case, filed in federal court in mid-May, involves
issues of freedom of speech and association.
"For us, it is a fundamental First Amendment case," John Roberts,
executive director of the Massachusetts branch of the ACLU, told Boston
Globe Wednesday. "It has to do with communications on a website, and
material that does not promote any kind of criminal behavior whatsoever."
ACLU officials said NAMBLA members deny encouraging coercion, rape or
violence.
Attorney Lawrence Frisoli, who represents the Curleys, said he is glad
the ACLU is defending NAMBLA, because he has had trouble locating the
group's members.
Harvey Silverglate, an ACLU board member, said Wednesday that the
group's attorneys will try to block any attempt by the Curleys to get
NAMBLA's membership lists, or other materials identifying members.
The ACLU also will act as a surrogate for NAMBLA, allowing its members
to defend themselves in court while remaining anonymous.According to the
Globe, NAMBLA officials in the past have said their main goal is the
abolition of age-of-consent laws that classify sex with children as rape.
At two separate trials last year, prosecutors said Jaynes and Sicari
were sexually obsessed with the boy, lured him from his Cambridge
neighborhood with the promise of a new bike, and then smothered him with
a gasoline-soaked rag when he resisted their sexual advances. They then
stuffed him into a concrete-filled container and dumped it into a Maine
river.
Sicari, convicted of first-degree murder, is serving a life sentence
without the possibility of parole. Jaynes' second-degree murder and
kidnapping convictions enable him to seek parole in 23 years.
The Curleys last week were awarded $328 million by a superior court jury
in a civil suit against Jaynes and Sicari.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer rally to protest ACLU suit |
27 Oct 2006 12:25:10 AM |
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Julius Limbani <wild@geese.edu> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Julius Limbani <wild@geese.edu> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Julius Limbani <wild@geese.edu> wrote:
John Baker wrote:
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:46:27 GMT, Julius Limbani <wild@geese.edu>
wrote:
Attila < wrote:
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:52:12 -0700, "Larry (Scratch)"
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<1aednY9Vo8flQqPYnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@comcast.com> wrote:
Parsifal wrote:
J Young schrieb:
Once again, the ACLU finds itself on the wrong end of an issue.
Idiot. Your systematical opposition to the ACLU shows that 1- you don't
know anything about your history, 2- you hate democracy, 3- you hate
your country, 4- you're a hypocrit *****.
But all knew that.
The ACLU is a POS organization that someone should blow to hell! They
are anti-American and anti anything decent. They ought to send it to
North Korea where it would be welcome with open arms.
It is an organization whose sole function is to defend the
Constitution.
NAMBLA = The Constitution????
Specifically, the First Amendment. Freedom of expression is for
everybody,
Butt ***** boys and instruct others how to, right perv?
You sure do think about
ACLU = NAMBLA
You're just projecting
No...it's A FACT:
That you're an anti-American extremist who demands censorship.
http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/Rage/NAMBLARAGEPAGE.html
"For us, it is a fundamental First Amendment case," John Roberts,
executive director of the Massachusetts branch of the ACLU, told Boston
Globe Wednesday. "It has to do with communications on a website, and
material that does not promote any kind of criminal behavior whatsoever."
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer rally to protest ACLU suit |
26 Oct 2006 07:05:30 PM |
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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:28:51 GMT Julius Limbani <wild@geese.edu> said
the following in alt.atheism and I was immediately reminded of 1,000
Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah" for some reason...
No...it's A FACT:
http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/Rage/NAMBLARAGEPAGE.html
So, I can sue Car & Driver magazine and BMW when I crash my car?
Howabout suing the NRA because someone uses a gun in a crime?
This had nothing to do with the crime, but everything with making
people shut up.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Julius Limbani" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer rally to protest ACLU suit |
26 Oct 2006 07:41:41 PM |
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Douglas Berry wrote:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:28:51 GMT Julius Limbani <wild@geese.edu> said
the following in alt.atheism and I was immediately reminded of 1,000
Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah" for some reason...
No...it's A FACT:
http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/Rage/NAMBLARAGEPAGE.html
So, I can sue Car & Driver magazine and BMW when I crash my car?
Dojo-***** you are surely not cranially endowed, that much is evident.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer rally to protest ACLU suit |
26 Oct 2006 02:20:49 PM |
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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 06:29:37 GMT, Julius Limbani <wild@geese.edu>
wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Julius Limbani <wild@geese.edu> wrote:
John Baker wrote:
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:46:27 GMT, Julius Limbani <wild@geese.edu>
wrote:
Attila < wrote:
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:52:12 -0700, "Larry (Scratch)"
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<1aednY9Vo8flQqPYnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@comcast.com> wrote:
Parsifal wrote:
J Young schrieb:
Once again, the ACLU finds itself on the wrong end of an issue.
Idiot. Your systematical opposition to the ACLU shows that 1- you don't
know anything about your history, 2- you hate democracy, 3- you hate
your country, 4- you're a hypocrit *****.
But all knew that.
The ACLU is a POS organization that someone should blow to hell! They
are anti-American and anti anything decent. They ought to send it to
North Korea where it would be welcome with open arms.
It is an organization whose sole function is to defend the
Constitution.
NAMBLA = The Constitution????
Specifically, the First Amendment. Freedom of expression is for
everybody,
Butt ***** boys and instruct others how to, right perv?
You sure do think about
ACLU = NAMBLA
You seem to be forgetting or overlooking that the ACLU, in addition to
defending NAMBLA's right to free speech, also defended the American
Nazi Party's right to march in Skokie, and yes, they also defended
Rush Limbaugh.
Oh, and one more thing... The ACLU doesn't become involved in *any*
case unless they're asked. I hope you're not so dense that the
implications of that escape you... though I fear you are.
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| User: "Julius Limbani" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer rally to protest ACLU suit |
26 Oct 2006 02:25:32 PM |
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John Baker wrote:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 06:29:37 GMT, Julius Limbani <wild@geese.edu>
wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Julius Limbani <wild@geese.edu> wrote:
John Baker wrote:
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:46:27 GMT, Julius Limbani <wild@geese.edu>
wrote:
Attila < wrote:
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:52:12 -0700, "Larry (Scratch)"
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<1aednY9Vo8flQqPYnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@comcast.com> wrote:
Parsifal wrote:
J Young schrieb:
Once again, the ACLU finds itself on the wrong end of an issue.
Idiot. Your systematical opposition to the ACLU shows that 1- you don't
know anything about your history, 2- you hate democracy, 3- you hate
your country, 4- you're a hypocrit *****.
But all knew that.
The ACLU is a POS organization that someone should blow to hell! They
are anti-American and anti anything decent. They ought to send it to
North Korea where it would be welcome with open arms.
It is an organization whose sole function is to defend the
Constitution.
NAMBLA = The Constitution????
Specifically, the First Amendment. Freedom of expression is for
everybody,
Butt ***** boys and instruct others how to, right perv?
You sure do think about
ACLU = NAMBLA
You seem to be forgetting or overlooking that the ACLU, in addition to
defending NAMBLA's right to free speech, also defended the American
Nazi Party
Oh goodie!
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer rally to protest ACLU suit |
26 Oct 2006 02:16:31 PM |
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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 06:09:55 GMT, Julius Limbani <wild@geese.edu>
wrote:
John Baker wrote:
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:46:27 GMT, Julius Limbani <wild@geese.edu>
wrote:
Attila < wrote:
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:52:12 -0700, "Larry (Scratch)"
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<1aednY9Vo8flQqPYnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@comcast.com> wrote:
Parsifal wrote:
J Young schrieb:
Once again, the ACLU finds itself on the wrong end of an issue.
Idiot. Your systematical opposition to the ACLU shows that 1- you don't
know anything about your history, 2- you hate democracy, 3- you hate
your country, 4- you're a hypocrit *****.
But all knew that.
The ACLU is a POS organization that someone should blow to hell! They
are anti-American and anti anything decent. They ought to send it to
North Korea where it would be welcome with open arms.
It is an organization whose sole function is to defend the
Constitution.
NAMBLA = The Constitution????
Specifically, the First Amendment. Freedom of expression is for
everybody,
Butt ***** boys and instruct others how to, right perv?
welcome to nambla
welcome to a world of pleasure... Enter password:. JOIN US ! get your
own nambla t-shirt.
www.nambla.de/
You fucking SICKO!
It's like I said, son... you're so fucking stupid you can't comprehend
my simplest thought.
Either that or your a deliberate troll. In either case, you aren't
worth the effort to try to educate.
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| User: "Julius Limbani" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer rally to protest ACLU suit |
26 Oct 2006 02:18:47 PM |
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John Baker wrote:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 06:09:55 GMT, Julius Limbani <wild@geese.edu>
wrote:
John Baker wrote:
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:46:27 GMT, Julius Limbani <wild@geese.edu>
wrote:
Attila < wrote:
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:52:12 -0700, "Larry (Scratch)"
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<1aednY9Vo8flQqPYnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@comcast.com> wrote:
Parsifal wrote:
J Young schrieb:
Once again, the ACLU finds itself on the wrong end of an issue.
Idiot. Your systematical opposition to the ACLU shows that 1- you don't
know anything about your history, 2- you hate democracy, 3- you hate
your country, 4- you're a hypocrit *****.
But all knew that.
The ACLU is a POS organization that someone should blow to hell! They
are anti-American and anti anything decent. They ought to send it to
North Korea where it would be welcome with open arms.
It is an organization whose sole function is to defend the
Constitution.
NAMBLA = The Constitution????
Specifically, the First Amendment. Freedom of expression is for
everybody,
Butt ***** boys and instruct others how to, right perv?
welcome to nambla
welcome to a world of pleasure... Enter password:. JOIN US ! get your
own nambla t-shirt.
www.nambla.de/
You fucking SICKO!
It's like I said, son... you're so fucking stupid
Hey perv, ***** and die.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer rally to protest ACLU suit |
27 Oct 2006 12:26:32 AM |
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Julius Limbani <wild@geese.edu> wrote:
John Baker wrote:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 06:09:55 GMT, Julius Limbani <wild@geese.edu>
wrote:
John Baker wrote:
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:46:27 GMT, Julius Limbani <wild@geese.edu>
wrote:
Attila < wrote:
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:52:12 -0700, "Larry (Scratch)"
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<1aednY9Vo8flQqPYnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@comcast.com> wrote:
Parsifal wrote:
J Young schrieb:
Once again, the ACLU finds itself on the wrong end of an issue.
Idiot. Your systematical opposition to the ACLU shows that 1- you don't
know anything about your history, 2- you hate democracy, 3- you hate
your country, 4- you're a hypocrit *****.
But all knew that.
The ACLU is a POS organization that someone should blow to hell! They
are anti-American and anti anything decent. They ought to send it to
North Korea where it would be welcome with open arms.
It is an organization whose sole function is to defend the
Constitution.
NAMBLA = The Constitution????
Specifically, the First Amendment. Freedom of expression is for
everybody,
Butt ***** boys and instruct others how to, right perv?
welcome to nambla
welcome to a world of pleasure... Enter password:. JOIN US ! get your
own nambla t-shirt.
www.nambla.de/
You fucking SICKO!
It's like I said, son... you're so fucking stupid
Hey perv,
Troll for dates somewhere else, pervert.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Jeff North" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer rally to protest ACLU suit |
26 Oct 2006 11:07:10 AM |
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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 06:09:55 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality Julius
Limbani <wild@geese.edu>
<SiY%g.473568$Pi2.263340@fe08.news.easynews.com> wrote:
| John Baker wrote:
| > On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:46:27 GMT, Julius Limbani <wild@geese.edu>
| > wrote:
| >
| >> Attila < wrote:
| >>> On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:52:12 -0700, "Larry (Scratch)"
| >>> <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
| >>> <1aednY9Vo8flQqPYnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@comcast.com> wrote:
| >>>
| >>>> Parsifal wrote:
| >>>>> J Young schrieb:
| >>>>>
| >>>>>> Once again, the ACLU finds itself on the wrong end of an issue.
| >>>>> Idiot. Your systematical opposition to the ACLU shows that 1- you don't
| >>>>> know anything about your history, 2- you hate democracy, 3- you hate
| >>>>> your country, 4- you're a hypocrit *****.
| >>>>> But all knew that.
| >>>>
| >>>> The ACLU is a POS organization that someone should blow to hell! They
| >>>> are anti-American and anti anything decent. They ought to send it to
| >>>> North Korea where it would be welcome with open arms.
| >>> It is an organization whose sole function is to defend the
| >>> Constitution.
| >> NAMBLA = The Constitution????
| >
| > Specifically, the First Amendment. Freedom of expression is for
| > everybody,
|
| Butt ***** boys and instruct others how to, right perv?
|
| welcome to nambla
| welcome to a world of pleasure... Enter password:. JOIN US ! get your
| own nambla t-shirt.
| www.nambla.de/
|
| You fucking SICKO!
You wouldn't be an ASFAR.org recruiter now?
Oh you're just an ASFAR apologist.
http://www.asfar.org/faq.php
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jnorthau@yourpantsyahoo.com.au : Remove your pants to reply
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| User: "Strife767" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer rally to protest ACLU suit |
24 Oct 2006 11:55:53 PM |
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On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:52:12 -0400, Larry (Scratch)
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
Parsifal wrote:
J Young schrieb:
Once again, the ACLU finds itself on the wrong end of an issue.
Idiot. Your systematical opposition to the ACLU shows that 1- you don't
know anything about your history, 2- you hate democracy, 3- you hate
your country, 4- you're a hypocrit *****.
But all knew that.
The ACLU is a POS organization that someone should blow to hell! They
are anti-American
Please explain how an organization that does nothing but defend our
Constitution and fight those who violate it, could possibly be
"anti-American."
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Skeptic, atheist...and somehow an optimist. Go figure.
I want to change the world.
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25 Oct 2006 08:56:58 PM |
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On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 04:55:53 GMT, Strife767 <strife767@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:52:12 -0400, Larry (Scratch)
<Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote:
Parsifal wrote:
J Young schrieb:
Once again, the ACLU finds itself on the wrong end of an issue.
Idiot. Your systematical opposition to the ACLU shows that 1- you don't
know anything about your history, 2- you hate democracy, 3- you hate
your country, 4- you're a hypocrit *****.
But all knew that.
The ACLU is a POS organization that someone should blow to hell! They
are anti-American
Please explain how an organization that does nothing but defend our
Constitution and fight those who violate it, could possibly be
"anti-American."
"The Constitution is just a piece of paper"? I think Larry likes that
one.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
- Voltaire (1694 - 1778)
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer rally to protest ACLU suit |
24 Oct 2006 08:13:18 PM |
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J Young wrote:
"This is an important fundamental question that faces America today, the
attack on traditional values in America. Are we going to allow our heritage
to be suppressed by a progressive minority?"
Sounds like the Church of England did when America was founded; A small
minority of progressive people smacked the tradition of state-supported
religion with a two-by-four...
"Wah!"
--
"If Christians want us to believe in a Redeemer, let them act redeemed."
--Voltaire
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| User: "Nosterill" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer rally to protest ACLU suit |
24 Oct 2006 02:55:20 AM |
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J Young wrote:
Once again, the ACLU finds itself on the wrong end of an issue. Does the
concept of 'decency' hold any bearing with this organization?
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061011/COUNTY10/610110390/1006/NEWS
Mt. Juliet official wants religion to be part of school
The date is marked on Peggy Clark's calendar: 6 p.m. Oct. 24, Lakeview
Elementary School in Mt. Juliet.
That's when and where Clark plans to participate in a prayer rally organized
by a Mt. Juliet city commissioner in support of the school in a legal battle
over separation of church and state.
"I understand there's a separation of church and state, but schools are a
different thing; somebody needs to teach those kids," said Clark, 67, who
said her education in public schools started with a prayer.
How are schools different? State funded religious indoctrination in
schools has to be one of the grossest violations of the separation of
church and state.
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| User: "ScottyFLL" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer rally to protest ACLU suit |
24 Oct 2006 08:38:11 AM |
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J Young wrote:
Once again, the ACLU finds itself on the wrong end of an issue. Does the
concept of 'decency' hold any bearing with this organization?
"I understand there's a separation of church and state, but
Everything after "but" is *****.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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24 Oct 2006 04:16:26 PM |
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In News 1161697091.689769.102070@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com,, ScottyFLL at
ScottyFLL@gmail.com, typed this:
J Young wrote:
<< but
Everything after "but" is *****.
Everything before "but" is also *****. I guess that leaves young in his
usual position, holding on to his but.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Strife767" |
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24 Oct 2006 09:26:03 PM |
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On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:16:26 -0400, Andrealphus
<NOREALEMAIL13@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
In News 1161697091.689769.102070@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com,, ScottyFLL
at
ScottyFLL@gmail.com, typed this:
J Young wrote:
<< but
Everything after "but" is *****.
Everything before "but" is also *****. I guess that leaves young in
his
usual position, holding on to his but.
lol XD
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Skeptic, atheist...and somehow an optimist. Go figure.
I want to change the world.
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| User: "Maureen" |
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24 Oct 2006 06:05:40 AM |
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J Young wrote:
Once again, the ACLU finds itself on the wrong end of an issue. Does the
concept of 'decency' hold any bearing with this organization?
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061011/COUNTY10/610110390/1006/NEWS
Mt. Juliet official wants religion to be part of school
So, Jon, you want your kids to be reading from the KJV, saying the protestant version of the
our father, and practicing protestantism as was the case in American Public Schools?
I thought that you were a Catholic?
When all of that was going on, the Church forbade all of the things that the public schools
did because they arose out of the Protestant heresy.
The date is marked on Peggy Clark's calendar: 6 p.m. Oct. 24, Lakeview
Elementary School in Mt. Juliet.
That's when and where Clark plans to participate in a prayer rally organized
by a Mt. Juliet city commissioner in support of the school in a legal battle
over separation of church and state.
"I understand there's a separation of church and state, but schools are a
different thing; somebody needs to teach those kids," said Clark, 67, who
said her education in public schools started with a prayer.
"A lot of people I know object to it, but if your school had more of what I
was raised with, we wouldn't have all this mess that we have now. We
wouldn't have guns in schools."
The prayer rally is organized by Mt. Juliet Commissioner Glen Linthicum, who
said it was time for the community to take a stand against what he called a
"frivolous" lawsuit recently filed by the Tennessee chapter of the American
Civil Liberties Union against the Wilson County school district.
The suit, filed on behalf of a local family, alleges that religious
activities endorsed by Lakeview Elementary resulted in constitutional
violations.
"What I hope to accomplish is to send a clear message to ACLU and the rest
of Tennessee that Mt. Juliet stands for traditional values in America and
that ACLU needs to ply their trade elsewhere," Linthicum said.
"This is an important fundamental question that faces America today, the
attack on traditional values in America. Are we going to allow our heritage
to be suppressed by a progressive minority?"
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youngopinions@aol.com
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Maureen, living "La Vie Boheme"
Meet me in Paris on a Champs-Élysées night
We could be in Rome again, 'neath the Trevi fountain light
We should be together, and maybe we just might
If you could only meet me somewhere in Europe tonight
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| User: "Panama Floyd" |
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23 Oct 2006 11:53:09 PM |
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J Young wrote:
Once again, the ACLU finds itself on the wrong end of an issue. Does the
concept of 'decency' hold any bearing with this organization?
Eat *****, dumbass. *****, you're stupid.
http://files.myopera.com/bluesman2333/albums/634/thumbs/dumbass.jpg_thumb.jpg
-PF, Atl.
#2015/KoBAAWA!
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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24 Oct 2006 07:27:54 AM |
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On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:44:12 -0400 "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
said the following in alt.atheism and I was immediately reminded of
1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah" for some reason...
"I understand there's a separation of church and state, but schools are a
different thing; somebody needs to teach those kids," said Clark, 67, who
said her education in public schools started with a prayer.
I take it this town has not a single church, and that the parents are
all in comas and cannot pass on their religious beliefs?
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Ghod" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer rally to protest ACLU suit |
24 Oct 2006 01:41:15 PM |
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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:tk1sj29btbokfnee6i7t2t54c6053cjk80@4ax.com...
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:44:12 -0400 "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com>
said the following in alt.atheism and I was immediately reminded of
1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah" for some reason...
"Reminded"? Just how was it you managed to get in to hear them? They
wouldn't let me near the place.
"I understand there's a separation of church and state, but schools
are a
different thing; somebody needs to teach those kids," said Clark,
67, who
said her education in public schools started with a prayer.
I take it this town has not a single church, and that the parents
are
all in comas and cannot pass on their religious beliefs?
Sure, they're all stuck in coma-delimited database, and.......
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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24 Oct 2006 09:08:11 PM |
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On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:41:15 -0500 "Ghod" <ghod@ameritech.net> said
the following in alt.atheism and I was immediately reminded of 1,000
Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah" for some reason...
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:tk1sj29btbokfnee6i7t2t54c6053cjk80@4ax.com...
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:44:12 -0400 "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com>
said the following in alt.atheism and I was immediately reminded of
1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah" for some reason...
"Reminded"? Just how was it you managed to get in to hear them? They
wouldn't let me near the place.
I dated the stage manager once.
I take it this town has not a single church, and that the parents
are all in comas and cannot pass on their religious beliefs?
Sure, they're all stuck in coma-delimited database, and.......
Thank you, he'll be here all week, try the veal.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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24 Oct 2006 02:55:32 PM |
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On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:41:15 -0500, "Ghod" <ghod@ameritech.net> wrote:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:tk1sj29btbokfnee6i7t2t54c6053cjk80@4ax.com...
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:44:12 -0400 "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com>
said the following in alt.atheism and I was immediately reminded of
1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah" for some reason...
"Reminded"? Just how was it you managed to get in to hear them? They
wouldn't let me near the place.
"I understand there's a separation of church and state, but schools
are a
different thing; somebody needs to teach those kids," said Clark,
67, who
said her education in public schools started with a prayer.
I take it this town has not a single church, and that the parents
are
all in comas and cannot pass on their religious beliefs?
Sure, they're all stuck in coma-delimited database, and.......
If you start that, I'm just going to have to post my sequel ...
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"I've heard the call. I believe God wants me to run for president."
- George W. Bush, quoted in George Magazine, September, 2000
"God gave the savior to the German people. We have faith,
deep and unshakeable faith, that he was sent to us by
God to save Germany."
- Hermann Goering, speaking of Hitler
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer rally to protest ACLU suit |
24 Oct 2006 05:51:54 AM |
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On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:44:12 -0400, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<8pCdnVe4KoETB6DYnZ2dnUVZ_ridnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:
Once again, the ACLU finds itself on the wrong end of an issue. Does the
concept of 'decency' hold any bearing with this organization?
That would depend on the definition of 'decency'. If you are involved
it would be highly suspect.
"I understand there's a separation of church and state, but schools are a
different thing;
No, they are not.
somebody needs to teach those kids,"
Teach them what? All about Shiva?
said Clark, 67, who
said her education in public schools started with a prayer.
And included a lot of what today is considered stupid. I know. I was
there.
"A lot of people I know object to it,
Do you mean those who have progressed with age as opposed to being
ossified in place?
but if your school had more of what I
was raised with, we wouldn't have all this mess that we have now. We
wouldn't have guns in schools."
They were there - you just did not see them. I admit there were more
switchblades, however.
Don't forget "Blackboard Jungle" was made in 1954.
The prayer rally is organized by Mt. Juliet Commissioner Glen Linthicum, who
said it was time for the community to take a stand against what he called a
"frivolous" lawsuit recently filed by the Tennessee chapter of the American
Civil Liberties Union against the Wilson County school district.
The suit, filed on behalf of a local family, alleges that religious
activities endorsed by Lakeview Elementary resulted in constitutional
violations.
If they are religious activities they are violations. And such suits
are anything but frivolous. I wonder how the taxpayers feel about
their tax money being spent this way?
"What I hope to accomplish is to send a clear message to ACLU and the rest
of Tennessee that Mt. Juliet stands for traditional values in America and
that ACLU needs to ply their trade elsewhere," Linthicum said.
Wrong.
"This is an important fundamental question that faces America today, the
attack on traditional values in America. Are we going to allow our heritage
to be suppressed by a progressive minority?"
"Traditional Values". The meaningless catchphrase of the 21st
century.
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Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
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| User: "Darrell Stec" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer rally to protest ACLU suit |
24 Oct 2006 05:39:47 PM |
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After serious contemplation, on or about Tuesday 24 October 2006 6:51 am
Attila perhaps from <prochoice@here.now wrote:
but if your school had more of what I
was raised with, we wouldn't have all this mess that we have now. We
wouldn't have guns in schools."
They were there - you just did not see them. Â I admit there were more
switchblades, however.
Don't forget "Blackboard Jungle" was made in 1954.
I was at a Junior High School dance which was held in the firestation
next door to the school. We literally saw one student shoot and kill
another on the "dance floor" because he was dancing with a girl he
claimed as his own girlfriend. This was in 1962.
A year or so later, I occassionally saw some seminarians carrying knives
(skull crested daggers popular at the time). If this occurred in the
seminary, I could only imagine what might have been happening in urban
public schools (or Catholic schools for that matter).
As for other moral issues, in our Catholic grade school there was a
young lady (somewhat well developed for her age) who would
occassionally go into the boy's bathroom and sell "peeks" for a
quarter. Unfortunately, I came from a very poor family and didn't have
a quarter.
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Later,
Darrell Stec
Webpage Sorcery
http://webpagesorcery.com
We Put the Magic in Your Webpages
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| User: "Curt" |
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27 Oct 2006 06:56:29 PM |
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"Darrell Stec" <darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> wrote in message
news:4q7j1kFlu85fU1@individual.net...
As for other moral issues, in our Catholic grade school there was a
young lady (somewhat well developed for her age) who would
occassionally go into the boy's bathroom and sell "peeks" for a
quarter. Unfortunately, I came from a very poor family and didn't have
a quarter.
It's always nice to see a young entrepeneur.
Curt
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| User: "Darrell Stec" |
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28 Oct 2006 12:52:10 AM |
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After serious contemplation, on or about Friday 27 October 2006 7:56 pm
Curt perhaps from wrote:
"Darrell Stec" <darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> wrote in message
news:4q7j1kFlu85fU1@individual.net...
As for other moral issues, in our Catholic grade school there was a
young lady (somewhat well developed for her age) who would
occassionally go into the boy's bathroom and sell "peeks" for a
quarter. Unfortunately, I came from a very poor family and didn't
have a quarter.
It's always nice to see a young entrepeneur.
She was a straight A student. I wonder if she has one of those $50
million a year income producing pornography sites now. Nearing 60, I
rather doubt she would be selling peeks on it now.
Curt
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Later,
Darrell Stec
Webpage Sorcery
http://webpagesorcery.com
We Put the Magic in Your Webpages
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer rally to protest ACLU suit |
24 Oct 2006 10:02:30 AM |
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On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:44:12 -0400, in alt.atheism , "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> in
<8pCdnVe4KoETB6DYnZ2dnUVZ_ridnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:
Once again, the ACLU finds itself on the wrong end of an issue. Does the
concept of 'decency' hold any bearing with this organization?
Would it be decent if I decide the religious education for your
children?
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061011/COUNTY10/610110390/1006/NEWS
Mt. Juliet official wants religion to be part of school
The date is marked on Peggy Clark's calendar: 6 p.m. Oct. 24, Lakeview
Elementary School in Mt. Juliet.
That's when and where Clark plans to participate in a prayer rally organized
by a Mt. Juliet city commissioner in support of the school in a legal battle
over separation of church and state.
"I understand there's a separation of church and state, but schools are a
different thing; somebody needs to teach those kids," said Clark, 67, who
said her education in public schools started with a prayer.
Are all of those children homeless orphans? If not, perhaps, I don't
know and I am just winging it here, the *parents* can teach them. Or
do you think that Clark will allow *me* to determine the religious
education for other people's children?
[snip]
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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