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Science > Abortion |
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"carl jones" |
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02 Feb 2005 11:40:18 PM |
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Pregnancy abortion |
We terminated a pregnancy in May 1994, due to information obtained from an
amino. Our reasons for doing the amino we strickly age related, I was 37
at the time, had 1 miscarriage in 1989 and 1 healthy child in 1991. We
had no family history of genetic disorders and believed that we were just
doing the amino to determine the risks of caring a Downs baby.
The results of our amino came back in record time, one week. The genetic
counselor called to let me know that they had found something, a marker,
but were unable to determine how active it was at the time. Therefore
they wanted to do testing on both my husband and I to determine more about
the marker. We were told at that time that markers are not uncommon and
do not necessarily mean bad news. We were there for the blood tests
within the hour. The counsler promised they would do the tests over the
weekend and let us know as soon as possible. This was a Friday afternoon,
Monday afternoon I couldn't wait any longer and called the counsler, she
knew and it was not good.
The baby I was carrying had Trisomy7P, a seldom seen extra chromosome. I
carry a translocation of the 7th and 15th chromosome, because the pieces
that broke loose and reattached were of the exact same size I have
experienced no abverse effects. So what did this mean for our unborn
child, no one seemed to know exactly. We were referred to the prenatal
genetics clinic. No one we talked to had any experience with this. After
extensive research, it was discovered that there were only 3 report cases.
The expected IQ for this child was some where below 20, with a life
expectance of less than one year that would require extensive surgery to
make that. We could expect severe heart defects, under development of
lungs and liver, respiratory difficulties and more. The odds were this
child would never leave the hospital.
How did we make this decision, with alot help from God. We talked, we
cried, we held our daughter tight and we prayed. My husband and I came
to our decision independantly and for very different reasons, but we came
to the same conclusion, we could not allow our baby to suffer needlessly.
Exactly one week after learning the final results of our amino, I under
went a D&E.
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| User: "Bethe Blasienz" |
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| Title: Re: Pregnancy abortion |
04 Feb 2005 03:09:08 PM |
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From: "Johnny"
"Bethe Blasienz" <bethe57@cs.com> wrote in message
news:20050204074050.23171.00000444@mb-m01.news.cs.com...
From: "Johnny"
I show no compassion to those who fail to show it to others.
No compassion was shown to the living human that was murdered for profit
and/or for convenience.
Alas, you are off the meds today, you have zero compassion for anyone but
yourself. Go and look in the mirror and re-evaluate your belief systems
and
then get yourself to some professional help as soon as possible. If you
really
believe what you write and are truthful, then you will see there is
something
terribly wrong with you.....compassion is not a word you know the meaning
of.
I have more compassion than you or the person who posted the ***** rant
"Bethe Blasienz" <bethe57@cs.com> wrote in message
news:20050204074050.23171.00000444@mb-m01.news.cs.com...
From: "Johnny"
I show no compassion to those who fail to show it to others.
No compassion was shown to the living human that was murdered for profit
and/or for convenience.
Alas, you are off the meds today, you have zero compassion for anyone but
yourself. Go and look in the mirror and re-evaluate your belief systems
and
then get yourself to some professional help as soon as possible. If you
really
believe what you write and are truthful, then you will see there is
something
terribly wrong with you.....compassion is not a word you know the meaning
of.
I have more compassion than you or the person who posted the ***** rant
Only in your mind. You haven't a clue what compassion means as evidenced by
your psychotic rantings and ravings.
which does nothing more than support KILLING another living human being
without its consent.
The pro choice sect supports a woman's right to choose. How many times does
one have to say that to you in order for you to comprehend? Whoops, my bad,
you have insufficient neurons to be able to comprehend.
I really do not need your underling, bitchy, complaining, insufficient,
uncompassionate ways telling me ANYTHING unless I ask you to tell me or if I
tell you to tell me.
Got your panties in a wad now do you? Someone strike a nerve? Anyone can say
anything to you anytime they want.........problem is you only listen to
yourself which is so very sad.
And, never ever expect me to take any orders from you or anyone else like
you , male or female.
Why not? You give out orders.........guess you cannot take what you dish out
to others.
Bethe Blasienz
Bryan, Texas USA
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: Pregnancy abortion |
04 Feb 2005 07:55:34 AM |
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(Bethe Blasienz) writes:
From: "Johnny"
I show no compassion to those who fail to show it to others.
And, that is what happened in this case.
No compassion was shown to the living human that was murdered for profit
and/or for convenience.
Alas, you are off the meds today, you have zero compassion for anyone but
yourself. Go and look in the mirror and re-evaluate your belief systems and
then get yourself to some professional help as soon as possible. If you
really believe what you write and are truthful, then you will see there is
something terribly wrong with you.....compassion is not a word you know the
meaning of.
Periodic confinement is apparently something which he knows very well,
though...and that's a good thing indeed for his neighbors.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 3, Houston 2 (OT) (February 2)
NEXT GAME: Friday, February 4 vs. Milwaukee, 7:35
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Pregnancy abortion |
03 Feb 2005 10:51:19 PM |
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Johnny wrote:
"Rosie" <msrosie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:oOsMd.2340$m22.852@read1.cgocable.net...
What a horrendous thing to have to go through - my heart goes out
to you.
Please don't let morons who have no compassion get to you.Anyone
who could
judge a woman for aborting in such a circumstance needs to get a
grip.
Rosie
A grip where?
Around the living fetus' neck or around the murderers' necks?
LOL!!!!!!!!!
You are an unloving, bitchy female who shows no evidence that you
have or
understand or practice love or compassion.
Your heart is in the house of pleasure and you know nothing of
compassion.
Your sacrificial, unloving way will cause your doom if you fail to
realize
the error of your way.
You stupid, slutty, uncaring, bitchy woman.
You deserve all the hate that comes your way.
I saw nothing horrendous about a reasonably common birth malady.
You stupid, abortion freak, Aryanesque, murderous, evil, wimp.
I show no compassion to those who fail to show it to others.
And, that is what happened in this case.
No compassion was shown to the living human that was murdered for
profit
and/or for convenience.
Wow I never could belive someone could lower themselves down to the
level you have just done. To tell a women shes a ***** for supporting
a couple who had to undergo a horrible situation and make a hard
choice--is horrible. Would you rather the baby be born and suffer its
ENTIRE life, or give it the peace it deserves in not experiencing hell.
Allowing a terminally ill baby like that to live is like preventing
people from having suicide when doing so would take all the pain away.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Pregnancy abortion |
04 Feb 2005 08:07:56 AM |
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<matt@conglacia.com> wrote in message
news:1107492679.301392.311510@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Rosie" <msrosie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:oOsMd.2340$m22.852@read1.cgocable.net...
What a horrendous thing to have to go through - my heart goes out
to you.
Please don't let morons who have no compassion get to you.Anyone
who could
judge a woman for aborting in such a circumstance needs to get a
grip.
Rosie
A grip where?
Around the living fetus' neck or around the murderers' necks?
LOL!!!!!!!!!
You are an unloving, bitchy female who shows no evidence that you
have or
understand or practice love or compassion.
Your heart is in the house of pleasure and you know nothing of
compassion.
Your sacrificial, unloving way will cause your doom if you fail to
realize
the error of your way.
You stupid, slutty, uncaring, bitchy woman.
You deserve all the hate that comes your way.
I saw nothing horrendous about a reasonably common birth malady.
You stupid, abortion freak, Aryanesque, murderous, evil, wimp.
I show no compassion to those who fail to show it to others.
No compassion was shown to the living human that was murdered for
profit and/or for convenience.
Wow I never could belive someone could lower themselves down to the
level you have just done.
After 46,000,000 abortions you can not fathom that there are really bad ,
unloving, uncaring people in the USA now?
To tell a women shes a ***** for supporting
a couple who had to undergo a horrible situation and make a hard
choice--is horrible.
In your opinion.............
Any more bitchesque opinions from the Aryan race?
Would you rather the baby be born and suffer its
ENTIRE life,
Would you?
That is a leading question.
That is merely speculation which is unproven.
or give it the peace it deserves in not experiencing hell.
Birth is hell? Life is hell?
Can you remember your first year of life?
Allowing a terminally ill baby like that to live
Is better than KILLING IT!
is like preventing
people from having suicide when doing so would take all the pain away.
Babies do not commit suicide, or did you fail to notice that, too?
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: Pregnancy abortion |
04 Feb 2005 10:13:06 AM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
<matt@conglacia.com> wrote in message
news:1107492679.301392.311510@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Rosie" <msrosie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:oOsMd.2340$m22.852@read1.cgocable.net...
What a horrendous thing to have to go through - my heart goes out to
you. Please don't let morons who have no compassion get to you.Anyone
who could judge a woman for aborting in such a circumstance needs to get
a grip.
A grip where?
Around the living fetus' neck or around the murderers' necks?
LOL!!!!!!!!!
You are an unloving, bitchy female who shows no evidence that you have or
understand or practice love or compassion.
Your heart is in the house of pleasure and you know nothing of compassion.
Your sacrificial, unloving way will cause your doom if you fail to realize
the error of your way.
You stupid, slutty, uncaring, bitchy woman.
You deserve all the hate that comes your way.
I saw nothing horrendous about a reasonably common birth malady.
You stupid, abortion freak, Aryanesque, murderous, evil, wimp.
I show no compassion to those who fail to show it to others. No
compassion was shown to the living human that was murdered for profit
and/or for convenience.
Wow I never could belive someone could lower themselves down to the
level you have just done.
After 46,000,000 abortions you can not fathom that there are really bad ,
unloving, uncaring people in the USA now?
That's fairly obvious -- since *you're* annoying this country.
To tell a women shes a ***** for supporting a couple who had to undergo a
horrible situation and make a hard choice--is horrible.
In your opinion.............
So what makes *your* opinion worth more than hers?
Any more bitchesque opinions from the Aryan race?
Still whining because your hero killed himself sixty years ago?
Would you rather the baby be born and suffer its
ENTIRE life,
Would you?
That is a leading question.
That's obviously a question you're unwilling to answer.
That is merely speculation which is unproven.
Yeah, it's just supported by a few hundred thousand occurrences.
or give it the peace it deserves in not experiencing hell.
Birth is hell? Life is hell? Can you remember your first year of life?
How about YOU volunteer to be afflicted with trisomy 7 and let us know how it
feels?
Allowing a terminally ill baby like that to live
Is better than KILLING IT!
Fortunately, you are in no position to enforce your hatred on anyone else.
is like preventing
people from having suicide when doing so would take all the pain away.
Babies do not commit suicide, or did you fail to notice that, too?
She notices a lot of things that you not only fail to notice, but you _refuse_
to notice.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 3, Houston 2 (OT) (February 2)
NEXT GAME: Friday, February 4 vs. Milwaukee, 7:35
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