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"carl jones" |
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02 Feb 2005 11:40:18 PM |
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Pregnancy abortion |
We terminated a pregnancy in May 1994, due to information obtained from an
amino. Our reasons for doing the amino we strickly age related, I was 37
at the time, had 1 miscarriage in 1989 and 1 healthy child in 1991. We
had no family history of genetic disorders and believed that we were just
doing the amino to determine the risks of caring a Downs baby.
The results of our amino came back in record time, one week. The genetic
counselor called to let me know that they had found something, a marker,
but were unable to determine how active it was at the time. Therefore
they wanted to do testing on both my husband and I to determine more about
the marker. We were told at that time that markers are not uncommon and
do not necessarily mean bad news. We were there for the blood tests
within the hour. The counsler promised they would do the tests over the
weekend and let us know as soon as possible. This was a Friday afternoon,
Monday afternoon I couldn't wait any longer and called the counsler, she
knew and it was not good.
The baby I was carrying had Trisomy7P, a seldom seen extra chromosome. I
carry a translocation of the 7th and 15th chromosome, because the pieces
that broke loose and reattached were of the exact same size I have
experienced no abverse effects. So what did this mean for our unborn
child, no one seemed to know exactly. We were referred to the prenatal
genetics clinic. No one we talked to had any experience with this. After
extensive research, it was discovered that there were only 3 report cases.
The expected IQ for this child was some where below 20, with a life
expectance of less than one year that would require extensive surgery to
make that. We could expect severe heart defects, under development of
lungs and liver, respiratory difficulties and more. The odds were this
child would never leave the hospital.
How did we make this decision, with alot help from God. We talked, we
cried, we held our daughter tight and we prayed. My husband and I came
to our decision independantly and for very different reasons, but we came
to the same conclusion, we could not allow our baby to suffer needlessly.
Exactly one week after learning the final results of our amino, I under
went a D&E.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Pregnancy abortion |
03 Feb 2005 09:35:12 AM |
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"the risks of carrying a Downs baby" in the USA are that the little child
could be killed by Aryanesque individuals who care nothing for the child who
needs care.
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: Pregnancy abortion |
03 Feb 2005 03:52:22 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"the risks of carrying a Downs baby" in the USA are that the little child
could be killed by Aryanesque individuals who care nothing for the child who
needs care.
If you're ever in that situation, you may have a point. Since you're not
likely to ever father anything, though, why should anyone pay attention to
your whining?
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 3, Houston 2 (OT) (February 2)
NEXT GAME: Friday, February 4 vs. Milwaukee, 7:35
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Pregnancy abortion |
03 Feb 2005 08:22:55 PM |
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Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"the risks of carrying a Downs baby" in the USA are that the little child
You're a stupid ***** but you think you get to tell people what to
do.
There was no Down's syndrome, *****. That's trisomy 21. This case
involved trisomy 7 which always (ALWAYS!) results in miscarriage.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Pregnancy abortion |
03 Feb 2005 10:05:02 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"the risks of carrying a Downs baby" in the USA are that the little child
You're a stupid ***** but you think you get to tell people what to
do.
There was no Down's syndrome, *****. That's trisomy 21. This case
involved trisomy 7 which always (ALWAYS!) results in miscarriage.
So, why be a fool and abort it then?
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: Pregnancy abortion |
03 Feb 2005 11:45:39 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:ctum9u$pjl$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"the risks of carrying a Downs baby" in the USA are that the little child
You're a stupid ***** but you think you get to tell people what to
do.
There was no Down's syndrome, *****. That's trisomy 21. This case
involved trisomy 7 which always (ALWAYS!) results in miscarriage.
So, why be a fool and abort it then?
Maybe because the mother has other health issues that would make it safer to
abort as early as possible, once the diagnosis is confirmed. Thanks for
showing your concern for the woman, whose only duty is to obey you, in your
deluded fantasy.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 3, Houston 2 (OT) (February 2)
NEXT GAME: Friday, February 4 vs. Milwaukee, 7:35
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Pregnancy abortion |
04 Feb 2005 10:26:20 PM |
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Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:ctum9u$pjl$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"the risks of carrying a Downs baby" in the USA are that the little child
You're a stupid ***** but you think you get to tell people what to
do.
There was no Down's syndrome, *****. That's trisomy 21. This case
involved trisomy 7 which always (ALWAYS!) results in miscarriage.
So, why be a fool and abort it then?
Why not?
You only get to screw up your own life. You do not get "do-overs"
with other people's lives.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Johnny" |
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03 Feb 2005 05:17:36 AM |
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"with a life expectance of less than one year"
You couldn't find it in your heart to let it live?
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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03 Feb 2005 07:20:06 AM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"with a life expectance of less than one year"
You couldn't find it in your heart to let it live?
You're one arrogant loon, Wentzky. Such a thing should happen to you --
although given your mind-boggling stupidity, I'm not at all sure you could
learn from such an experience.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 3, Houston 2 (OT) (February 2)
NEXT GAME: Friday, February 4 vs. Milwaukee, 7:35
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| User: "Johnny" |
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03 Feb 2005 09:27:55 AM |
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"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk7jlpu6ex.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"with a life expectance of less than one year"
You couldn't find it in your heart to let it live?
You're one arrogant loon, Wentzky.
Arrogant?
Did I elect to have my own child aborted?
Also, was money a big concern?
I know if it woulda died within a year and insurance/medical bills piled up
then that would be another issue.
However, stop loss is quite small nowadays for lots of people. $2000.
I wonder how much the abortion cost?
Sacrifice for who, for what?
Such a thing should happen to you --
although given your mind-boggling stupidity, I'm not at all sure you could
learn from such an experience.
Learn?
You want to order an abortion in such as case as this?
You are treading on very thin ice if you somehow think that mandatory
abortions will be the rule just so the system can save a little money.
I learned a lot from it already.
I learned that another child was aborted as a matter of convenience.
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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03 Feb 2005 03:37:34 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk7jlpu6ex.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"with a life expectance of less than one year"
You couldn't find it in your heart to let it live?
You're one arrogant loon, Wentzky.
Arrogant?
That's what I said. What part of it are you incapable of understanding?
Did I elect to have my own child aborted?
Fortunately, you haven't pissed in the gene pool, so your question is
irrelevant.
Also, was money a big concern?
Ask the couple who had to face that problem.
I know if it woulda died within a year and insurance/medical bills piled up
then that would be another issue.
You know very little of what you think you know.
However, stop loss is quite small nowadays for lots of people. $2000. I
wonder how much the abortion cost? Sacrifice for who, for what?
It's none of your business if the couple you're whining at don't choose to
give you (or anyone else) that information. They had a difficult decision to
make, and made their choice and dealt with the consequences. You aren't a
party to their situation, so your whining is less than irrelevant.
Such a thing should happen to you -- although given your mind-boggling
stupidity, I'm not at all sure you could learn from such an experience.
Learn?
I know, that's something foreign to you.
You want to order an abortion in such as case as this?
I'm not ordering anything, idiot. The couple in question had a choice to
make, and they made it. My sole interest is that they're allowed to make
their own choice without having to deal with malicious morons such as yourself.
You are treading on very thin ice if you somehow think that mandatory
abortions will be the rule just so the system can save a little money.
Since I never claimed that, could you bother to whine about something I *have*
said?
I learned a lot from it already. I learned that another child was aborted as
a matter of convenience.
As usual, you confirm my observations of you -- and in this case, you're truly
an arrogant little *****. When it's YOUR child in such a condition, get
back to me and let us know what (as if that's possible) you learned from the
experience.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 3, Houston 2 (OT) (February 2)
NEXT GAME: Friday, February 4 vs. Milwaukee, 7:35
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| User: "Bethe Blasienz" |
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03 Feb 2005 04:20:09 PM |
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From: "Johnny"
Arrogant?
Yes and presumptious too.............you presume to know what you think is best
for other people when the only person you have control over is yourself. This
family did what was best for them, it's not up to you, me or anyone else to
cast stones/judgement.
Did I elect to have my own child aborted?
God help us if you have children.
Point to be made here: People are going to do what they are going to
do.........you are going to do what you are going to do and no one can stop you
no matter what the action is. This family, after, I am sure, alot of thought,
medical counsel and probably prayer, did the right thing for them. Another
family might have decided differently. You can think that what this family did
was wrong............so what! It simply does not matter one bit what you or
anyone else thinks.
Bethe Blasienz
Bryan, Texas USA
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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03 Feb 2005 04:27:04 PM |
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Bethe Blasienz wrote:
From: "Johnny"
Arrogant?
Yes and presumptious too.............you presume to know what you
think is best
for other people when the only person you have control over is
yourself. This
family did what was best for them, it's not up to you, me or anyone
else to
cast stones/judgement.
Did I elect to have my own child aborted?
God help us if you have children.
It might be better if all available dieties, both male and female, help
any children he has. They would need it far more than we would. And
help them become open-minded, liberal, honest, educated, tolerant,
compassionate people. It would not hurt if they also changed to a
Pagan religion. Basically, exactly opposite of Johnny.
Mark Sebree
Point to be made here: People are going to do what they are going to
do.........you are going to do what you are going to do and no one
can stop you
no matter what the action is. This family, after, I am sure, alot of
thought,
medical counsel and probably prayer, did the right thing for them.
Another
family might have decided differently. You can think that what this
family did
was wrong............so what! It simply does not matter one bit what
you or
anyone else thinks.
Bethe Blasienz
Bryan, Texas USA
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| User: "Bethe Blasienz" |
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03 Feb 2005 08:01:26 PM |
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From: "Mark Sebree"
Bethe Blasienz wrote:
From: "Johnny"
Arrogant?
Yes and presumptious too.............you presume to know what you
think is best
for other people when the only person you have control over is
yourself. This
family did what was best for them, it's not up to you, me or anyone
else to
cast stones/judgement.
Did I elect to have my own child aborted?
God help us if you have children.
It might be better if all available dieties, both male and female, help
any children he has. They would need it far more than we would. And
help them become open-minded, liberal, honest, educated, tolerant,
compassionate people. It would not hurt if they also changed to a
Pagan religion. Basically, exactly opposite of Johnny.
Mark Sebree
Couldn't have said it better! Compassion for sure is not in "Johnny's"
vocabulary but selfish sure is!
Bethe Blasienz
Bryan, Texas USA
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| User: "Johnny" |
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03 Feb 2005 09:32:18 AM |
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"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk7jlpu6ex.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"with a life expectance of less than one year"
You couldn't find it in your heart to let it live?
You're one arrogant loon, Wentzky. Such a thing should happen to you --
If such a thing happened to me, do you think I would elect to terminate the
life of the infant?
Do you think all men and women are somehow less loving individuals now, who
grasp at straws such as the person in this case was told?
How does the doctor actually know the child will suffer and die in less than
a year?
Aryanesque abortionists are not to be trusted.
Abortion did nothing in this case to prove the speculation.
LOL!!!!!!!
although given your mind-boggling stupidity, I'm not at all sure you could
learn from such an experience.
I learned long ago not to take other persons' lives as a matter of
convenience.
When did you forget?
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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03 Feb 2005 03:49:38 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk7jlpu6ex.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"with a life expectance of less than one year"
You couldn't find it in your heart to let it live?
You're one arrogant loon, Wentzky. Such a thing should happen to you --
If such a thing happened to me, do you think I would elect to terminate the
life of the infant?
Had such a thing happened to you, you'd never have been heard of -- as you'd
have died more than forty years ago. Deal with what happened.
Do you think all men and women are somehow less loving individuals now, who
grasp at straws such as the person in this case was told?
Do you think you'll ever ask a question that's remotely relevant to whatever
the discussion is?
How does the doctor actually know the child will suffer and die in less than
a year?
A little thing called medical school, which gives them knowledge of what's
likely to happen -- which means they're a lot more likely to make an accurate
diagnosis than you ever will be.
Aryanesque abortionists are not to be trusted. Abortion did nothing in this
case to prove the speculation. LOL!!!!!!!
Considering the couple you're obsessed with haven't aborted yet, could you
deal with what *has* happened?
although given your mind-boggling stupidity, I'm not at all sure you could
learn from such an experience.
I learned long ago not to take other persons' lives as a matter of
convenience. When did you forget?
I learned that before you did, and I've never forgotten it. You're the loon
who crows that millions of his imaginary friends are going to destroy anyone
who's not as cracked in the head as you are. Spot the subtle difference.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 3, Houston 2 (OT) (February 2)
NEXT GAME: Friday, February 4 vs. Milwaukee, 7:35
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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03 Feb 2005 08:20:20 PM |
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Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"with a life expectance of less than one year"
You couldn't find it in your heart to let it live?
You can't find it in your heart to let starving children live?
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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03 Feb 2005 11:40:02 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) writes:
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"with a life expectance of less than one year"
You couldn't find it in your heart to let it live?
You can't find it in your heart to let starving children live?
He's _got_ a brain and heart (in the philosophical sense, anyway), and it's
fairly obvious that both have completely atrophied from non-use.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 3, Houston 2 (OT) (February 2)
NEXT GAME: Friday, February 4 vs. Milwaukee, 7:35
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| User: "Attila" |
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04 Feb 2005 05:49:56 PM |
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On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 06:17:36 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<VGnMd.14054$qJ3.6618@bignews1.bellsouth.net> wrote:
"with a life expectance of less than one year"
You couldn't find it in your heart to let it live?
Why?
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| User: "Johnny" |
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03 Feb 2005 09:35:57 AM |
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Hey.
Where are all those promised stem cell cures that would allow you to forego
any abortion such as the one you mentioned?
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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03 Feb 2005 03:54:35 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
Hey. Where are all those promised stem cell cures that would allow you to
forego any abortion such as the one you mentioned?
I'd think you'd be waiting for that -- as it'd likely produce something to
cure your chronic psychosis. (My apologies for confusing the target of your
ranting -- I was thinking it was the Polish couple, when you're actually
berating Carl Jones. Maybe you should be bothered to quote once in a while.)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 3, Houston 2 (OT) (February 2)
NEXT GAME: Friday, February 4 vs. Milwaukee, 7:35
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| User: "Miss Anne Thrope" |
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03 Feb 2005 09:46:58 PM |
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So, Carl had an abortion? I didn't see that one coming.
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| User: "Rosie" |
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03 Feb 2005 10:53:46 AM |
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What a horrendous thing to have to go through - my heart goes out to you.
Please don't let morons who have no compassion get to you.Anyone who could
judge a woman for aborting in such a circumstance needs to get a grip.
Rosie
"carl jones" <carljones@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
news:W6qdnWB-K8jdJJzfRVn-vg@usadatanet.net...
We terminated a pregnancy in May 1994, due to information obtained from an
amino. Our reasons for doing the amino we strickly age related, I was 37
at the time, had 1 miscarriage in 1989 and 1 healthy child in 1991. We
had no family history of genetic disorders and believed that we were just
doing the amino to determine the risks of caring a Downs baby.
The results of our amino came back in record time, one week. The genetic
counselor called to let me know that they had found something, a marker,
but were unable to determine how active it was at the time. Therefore
they wanted to do testing on both my husband and I to determine more about
the marker. We were told at that time that markers are not uncommon and
do not necessarily mean bad news. We were there for the blood tests
within the hour. The counsler promised they would do the tests over the
weekend and let us know as soon as possible. This was a Friday afternoon,
Monday afternoon I couldn't wait any longer and called the counsler, she
knew and it was not good.
The baby I was carrying had Trisomy7P, a seldom seen extra chromosome. I
carry a translocation of the 7th and 15th chromosome, because the pieces
that broke loose and reattached were of the exact same size I have
experienced no abverse effects. So what did this mean for our unborn
child, no one seemed to know exactly. We were referred to the prenatal
genetics clinic. No one we talked to had any experience with this. After
extensive research, it was discovered that there were only 3 report cases.
The expected IQ for this child was some where below 20, with a life
expectance of less than one year that would require extensive surgery to
make that. We could expect severe heart defects, under development of
lungs and liver, respiratory difficulties and more. The odds were this
child would never leave the hospital.
How did we make this decision, with alot help from God. We talked, we
cried, we held our daughter tight and we prayed. My husband and I came
to our decision independantly and for very different reasons, but we came
to the same conclusion, we could not allow our baby to suffer needlessly.
Exactly one week after learning the final results of our amino, I under
went a D&E.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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03 Feb 2005 10:11:21 PM |
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"Rosie" <msrosie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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What a horrendous thing to have to go through - my heart goes out to you.
Please don't let morons who have no compassion get to you.Anyone who could
judge a woman for aborting in such a circumstance needs to get a grip.
Rosie
A grip where?
Around the living fetus' neck or around the murderers' necks?
LOL!!!!!!!!!
You are an unloving, bitchy female who shows no evidence that you have or
understand or practice love or compassion.
Your heart is in the house of pleasure and you know nothing of compassion.
Your sacrificial, unloving way will cause your doom if you fail to realize
the error of your way.
You stupid, slutty, uncaring, bitchy woman.
You deserve all the hate that comes your way.
I saw nothing horrendous about a reasonably common birth malady.
You stupid, abortion freak, Aryanesque, murderous, evil, wimp.
I show no compassion to those who fail to show it to others.
And, that is what happened in this case.
No compassion was shown to the living human that was murdered for profit
and/or for convenience.
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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03 Feb 2005 11:52:57 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Rosie" <msrosie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:oOsMd.2340$m22.852@read1.cgocable.net...
What a horrendous thing to have to go through - my heart goes out to you.
Please don't let morons who have no compassion get to you.Anyone who could
judge a woman for aborting in such a circumstance needs to get a grip.
Rosie
A grip where?
Around the living fetus' neck or around the murderers' necks?
LOL!!!!!!!!!
Aroiund YOUR scrawny neck would be more appropriate.
You are an unloving, bitchy female who shows no evidence that you have or
understand or practice love or compassion.
She's shown that she's not obliged to obey anything you dictate.
Your heart is in the house of pleasure and you know nothing of compassion.
Your sacrificial, unloving way will cause your doom if you fail to realize
the error of your way.
You're a singularly stupid prophet of doom.
You stupid, slutty, uncaring, bitchy woman. You deserve all the hate that
comes your way. I saw nothing horrendous about a reasonably common birth
malady. You stupid, abortion freak, Aryanesque, murderous, evil, wimp.
Big words from a certified lunatic in a wide spot in the road in South
Carolina, for sure.
I show no compassion to those who fail to show it to others.
You don't give a good ***** about anything but yourself.
And, that is what happened in this case. No compassion was shown to the
living human that was murdered for profit and/or for convenience.
So, when are you calling the cops to report her, Inspector Clouseau?
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 3, Houston 2 (OT) (February 2)
NEXT GAME: Friday, February 4 vs. Milwaukee, 7:35
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| User: "Rosie" |
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04 Feb 2005 10:49:10 AM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
news:oxCMd.15504$qJ3.179@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
You are an unloving, bitchy female who shows no evidence that you have or
understand or practice love or compassion.
Your heart is in the house of pleasure and you know nothing of compassion.
Your sacrificial, unloving way will cause your doom if you fail to realize
the error of your way.
You stupid, slutty, uncaring, bitchy woman.
You deserve all the hate that comes your way.
I saw nothing horrendous about a reasonably common birth malady.
You stupid, abortion freak, Aryanesque, murderous, evil, wimp.
I show no compassion to those who fail to show it to others.
And, that is what happened in this case.
No compassion was shown to the living human that was murdered for profit
and/or for convenience.
******You know nothing about me, so you aren't qualified to make those
determinations. But I see the typical antichoice love and compassion
*coughbullshitcough* shining through in your post. If the Wiccans are right
and whatever you give, you receive back threefold is true, then you are in a
world of trouble, mon ami.
Rosie
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Pregnancy abortion |
05 Feb 2005 10:54:12 AM |
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"Rosie" <msrosie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:iSNMd.2857$Sx6.479712@read2.cgocable.net...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
news:oxCMd.15504$qJ3.179@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
You are an unloving, bitchy female who shows no evidence that you have
or
understand or practice love or compassion.
Your heart is in the house of pleasure and you know nothing of
compassion.
Your sacrificial, unloving way will cause your doom if you fail to
realize
the error of your way.
You stupid, slutty, uncaring, bitchy woman.
You deserve all the hate that comes your way.
I saw nothing horrendous about a reasonably common birth malady.
You stupid, abortion freak, Aryanesque, murderous, evil, wimp.
I show no compassion to those who fail to show it to others.
And, that is what happened in this case.
No compassion was shown to the living human that was murdered for profit
and/or for convenience.
******You know nothing about me,
I know much about you from what you posted.
You prepared to assume your recognized personality in society?
so you aren't qualified to make those
determinations.
I read what you wrote.
Why are you so defensive now?
But I see the typical antichoice love and compassion
*coughbullshitcough* shining through in your post. If the Wiccans are
right
and whatever you give, you receive back threefold is true, then you are in
a
world of trouble, mon ami.
If that were true I would be in very good shape financially.
Wiccans are bad people.
Very much so.
Wiccans are not so generous, I noticed.
Their philosophy seems to be "the more you take from others the more you
have to use, but do not give anything to anyone because if you do so you
will be out that much, which is a detriment to yourself. And, try to get
other people to do charity so it costs you nothing. Mislead others and party
as they bear the burdens you create. Use others for your own gain and never
help another individual since charity is an unselfish act, and never become
a charitable individual because in doing so you will lose your most trusted
ally, $$."
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: Pregnancy abortion |
05 Feb 2005 11:28:35 AM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Rosie" <msrosie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:iSNMd.2857$Sx6.479712@read2.cgocable.net...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
news:oxCMd.15504$qJ3.179@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
You are an unloving, bitchy female who shows no evidence that you have or
understand or practice love or compassion. Your heart is in the house of
pleasure and you know nothing of compassion. Your sacrificial, unloving
way will cause your doom if you fail to realize the error of your way.
You stupid, slutty, uncaring, bitchy woman. You deserve all the hate that
comes your way. I saw nothing horrendous about a reasonably common birth
malady. You stupid, abortion freak, Aryanesque, murderous, evil, wimp.
I show no compassion to those who fail to show it to others.
And, that is what happened in this case.
No compassion was shown to the living human that was murdered for profit
and/or for convenience.
******You know nothing about me,
I know much about you from what you posted.
*****. You don't know anywhere near as much as you want people to think
you know.
You prepared to assume your recognized personality in society?
Are you still an arrogant psychotic who claims to have authority over
anything?
so you aren't qualified to make those determinations.
I read what you wrote. Why are you so defensive now?
Why are you so proud of being crazy?
But I see the typical antichoice love and compassion *coughbullshitcough*
shining through in your post. If the Wiccans are right and whatever you
give, you receive back threefold is true, then you are in a world of
trouble, mon ami.
If that were true I would be in very good shape financially. Wiccans are bad
people. Very much so.
Do you have an actual reason for that belief, other than your delusion that
it's because you say so?
Wiccans are not so generous, I noticed.
:s/noticed/fantasized
Their philosophy seems to be "the more you take from others the more you
have to use, but do not give anything to anyone because if you do so you
will be out that much, which is a detriment to yourself. And, try to get
other people to do charity so it costs you nothing. Mislead others and party
as they bear the burdens you create. Use others for your own gain and never
help another individual since charity is an unselfish act, and never become
a charitable individual because in doing so you will lose your most trusted
ally, $$."
Money and power is your sole desire, judging from your rants. Enjoy being
continually frustrated. How soon until you're claiming she's making an
appointment to meet you?
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 5, Houston 3 (February 4)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, February 5 vs. Milwaukee, 7:35
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| User: "Bethe Blasienz" |
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| Title: Re: Pregnancy abortion |
04 Feb 2005 06:40:50 AM |
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From: "Johnny"
I show no compassion to those who fail to show it to others.
And, that is what happened in this case.
No compassion was shown to the living human that was murdered for profit
and/or for convenience.
Alas, you are off the meds today, you have zero compassion for anyone but
yourself. Go and look in the mirror and re-evaluate your belief systems and
then get yourself to some professional help as soon as possible. If you really
believe what you write and are truthful, then you will see there is something
terribly wrong with you.....compassion is not a word you know the meaning of.
Bethe Blasienz
Bryan, Texas USA
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Pregnancy abortion |
04 Feb 2005 08:13:05 AM |
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"Bethe Blasienz" <bethe57@cs.com> wrote in message
news:20050204074050.23171.00000444@mb-m01.news.cs.com...
From: "Johnny"
I show no compassion to those who fail to show it to others.
No compassion was shown to the living human that was murdered for profit
and/or for convenience.
Alas, you are off the meds today, you have zero compassion for anyone but
yourself. Go and look in the mirror and re-evaluate your belief systems
and
then get yourself to some professional help as soon as possible. If you
really
believe what you write and are truthful, then you will see there is
something
terribly wrong with you.....compassion is not a word you know the meaning
of.
I have more compassion than you or the person who posted the ***** rant
which does nothing more than support KILLING another living human being
without its consent.
I really do not need your underling, bitchy, complaining, insufficient,
uncompassionate ways telling me ANYTHING unless I ask you to tell me or if I
tell you to tell me.
Learn your delegated role in creation.
And, never ever expect me to take any orders from you or anyone else like
you , male or female.
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: Pregnancy abortion |
04 Feb 2005 10:18:13 AM |
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"Johnny" <> writes:
"Bethe Blasienz" <bethe57@cs.com> wrote in message
news:20050204074050.23171.00000444@mb-m01.news.cs.com...
From: "Johnny"
I show no compassion to those who fail to show it to others.
No compassion was shown to the living human that was murdered for profit
and/or for convenience.
Alas, you are off the meds today, you have zero compassion for anyone but
yourself. Go and look in the mirror and re-evaluate your belief systems
and then get yourself to some professional help as soon as possible. If
you really believe what you write and are truthful, then you will see there
is something terribly wrong with you.....compassion is not a word you know
the meaning of.
I have more compassion than you or the person who posted the ***** rant
which does nothing more than support KILLING another living human being
without its consent.
There's no person there to give consent, Shmendrick. You couldn't care less
about that fetus with a guaranteed miscarriage awaiting it -- the only thing
you care about is that the woman carrying it obey your psychosis.
I really do not need your underling, bitchy, complaining, insufficient,
uncompassionate ways telling me ANYTHING unless I ask you to tell me or if I
tell you to tell me.
Still pretending you have authority over anything, eh?
Learn your delegated role in creation.
Maybe you should learn that your authority doesn't extend beyond you.
And, never ever expect me to take any orders from you or anyone else like
you , male or female.
Tell *that* to your case officer.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 3, Houston 2 (OT) (February 2)
NEXT GAME: Friday, February 4 vs. Milwaukee, 7:35
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