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"Michael" |
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14 Sep 2005 11:48:35 AM |
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Pro God, Life & Freedom |
Pro God, Life & Freedom
What would I ask any office holder? Do you really believe in preserving,
protecting and defending all our religious freedoms, from any enemies,
foreign and domestic? Doesn't religious freedom includes any woman's right
to ask her God most high, what to do, about carrying their Zygote to full
term? Doesn't carrying to full term, involve carrying your child for up to
18 years plus through college, & again when they come back? Should any
office holder or anyone else, tell any woman, what her religious beliefs
should be, or what her God should say? Could even heaven help them, when
they try to play God, with her? Could women not learn more, from also asking
the mothers that had lived this experience? Could we not incentivize more
successful full terms? Didn't our Declaration of Independence say we were
going to "promote the general welfare"? So, shouldn't we support any
affirmative decisions to carry to full term, by providing universal health,
wellness, & nurturing support, for all our children, so that a decision for
life, is never a decision for a bad life? Could we not be pro God, pro
freedom, and pro life, when we look from higher levels?
Very Respectfully,
Michael
http://RecoveryByDiscovery.com/abortion.htm
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: Pro God, Life & Freedom |
14 Sep 2005 12:56:34 PM |
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Michael wrote:
Pro God, Life & Freedom
What would I ask any office holder? Do you really believe in preserving,
protecting and defending all our religious freedoms, from any enemies,
foreign and domestic?
Yes.
Doesn't religious freedom includes any woman's right
to ask her God most high, what to do, about carrying their Zygote to full
term?
Yes.
Doesn't carrying to full term, involve carrying your child for up to
18 years plus through college, & again when they come back?
No. Full-term is continuing a pregnancy to childbirth. After that,
she can care for it or give it up for adoption.
Should any
office holder or anyone else, tell any woman, what her religious beliefs
should be, or what her God should say?
No. That is the essense of religious freedom.
Could even heaven help them, when
they try to play God, with her?
No.
Could women not learn more, from also asking
the mothers that had lived this experience?
Yes, but it should not be required. Not everyone has fond memories of
their parents, and some want nothing to do with them.
Could we not incentivize more
successful full terms?
No, because it will not work. Women will still choose to get an
abortion.
Didn't our Declaration of Independence say we were
going to "promote the general welfare"?
First, the Declaration on Independence has no force of law behind it.
Second, the phrase you mention is from the preamble of the
Constitution, and only serves as a introductory paragraph giving some
general principles. The body of the Constitution deals with HOW the
country proposes to "promote the general welfare". And that includes
allowing women to choose for themselves whether to continue her
pregnancy or to abort it. It certainly does not promote anyone's
welfare to force her to suffer and to ruin her life, and possibly her
health, for no reason.
So, shouldn't we support any
affirmative decisions to carry to full term, by providing universal health,
wellness, & nurturing support, for all our children, so that a decision for
life, is never a decision for a bad life?
Yes. And we should also support any affirmative decisions to abort the
pregnancy by providing nurturing support, health insurance coverage,
wellness, and make sure that it is also not a bad decision.
Both decisions are valid, and deserve the same level of support.
Forcing the woman to continue her pregnancy against her will is not
supportive, it is punative.
Could we not be pro God,
No. Religious beliefs should never enter into the equation when making
public policy decisions, because everyone has different beliefs.
pro freedom,
Yes. However, you are not "pro-freedom", because you oppose the
freedom on women to control their own lives and reproduction. That is
one reason why you are trying to change the menaings of words in your
recent posts.
and pro life,
No. We should be pro-choice, because that is also pro-freedom.
"Pro-life", or more accurately anti-choice, is an anti-freedom stance,
because it opposes the women's freedom to control her own life, make
her own decisions, and control her own body.
when we look from higher levels?
Answered directly above, on each point.
Mark Sebree
Very Respectfully,
Michael
http://RecoveryByDiscovery.com/abortion.htm
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| User: "diva" |
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| Title: Re: Pro God, Life & Freedom |
28 Sep 2005 11:41:02 AM |
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"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1126720594.862274.269040@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Michael wrote:
Pro God, Life & Freedom
What would I ask any office holder? Do you really believe in preserving,
protecting and defending all our religious freedoms, from any enemies,
foreign and domestic?
Yes.
Doesn't religious freedom includes any woman's right
to ask her God most high, what to do, about carrying their Zygote to
full
term?
Yes.
Doesn't carrying to full term, involve carrying your child for up to
18 years plus through college, & again when they come back?
No. Full-term is continuing a pregnancy to childbirth. After that,
she can care for it or give it up for adoption.
And just who, pray tell, is supposed to take all these babies, as there are
already THOUSANDS of children languishing in foster care, needing adoptive
families ALREADY! How many have you adopted?
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: Pro God, Life & Freedom |
28 Sep 2005 01:23:18 PM |
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diva wrote:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1126720594.862274.269040@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Michael wrote:
Pro God, Life & Freedom
What would I ask any office holder? Do you really believe in preserving,
protecting and defending all our religious freedoms, from any enemies,
foreign and domestic?
Yes.
Doesn't religious freedom includes any woman's right
to ask her God most high, what to do, about carrying their Zygote to
full
term?
Yes.
Doesn't carrying to full term, involve carrying your child for up to
18 years plus through college, & again when they come back?
No. Full-term is continuing a pregnancy to childbirth. After that,
she can care for it or give it up for adoption.
And just who, pray tell, is supposed to take all these babies, as there are
already THOUSANDS of children languishing in foster care, needing adoptive
families ALREADY! How many have you adopted?
None. But I am a single male with an unstable work situation. I am
not the best person to adopt.
I was correcting his use of the phrase "full term", since it did not
fit with the normal meaning, and was libel to cause confusion.
Also, I am not one of those people that wishes to force women to
continue unwanted pregnancies against their wills, which would lead to
more children being placed into foster care. I am pro-choice, not
anti-choice.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "diva" |
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| Title: Re: Pro God, Life & Freedom |
29 Sep 2005 01:35:40 PM |
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"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1127931798.311411.47870@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
diva wrote:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1126720594.862274.269040@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Michael wrote:
Pro God, Life & Freedom
What would I ask any office holder? Do you really believe in
preserving,
protecting and defending all our religious freedoms, from any
enemies,
foreign and domestic?
Yes.
Doesn't religious freedom includes any woman's right
to ask her God most high, what to do, about carrying their Zygote to
full
term?
Yes.
Doesn't carrying to full term, involve carrying your child for up to
18 years plus through college, & again when they come back?
No. Full-term is continuing a pregnancy to childbirth. After that,
she can care for it or give it up for adoption.
And just who, pray tell, is supposed to take all these babies, as there
are
already THOUSANDS of children languishing in foster care, needing
adoptive
families ALREADY! How many have you adopted?
None. But I am a single male with an unstable work situation. I am
not the best person to adopt.
I was correcting his use of the phrase "full term", since it did not
fit with the normal meaning, and was libel to cause confusion.
Also, I am not one of those people that wishes to force women to
continue unwanted pregnancies against their wills, which would lead to
more children being placed into foster care. I am pro-choice, not
anti-choice.
Mark Sebree
My mistake , so sorry!
s
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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| Title: Re: Pro God, Life & Freedom |
14 Sep 2005 04:55:47 PM |
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Michael wrote:
Pro God, Life & Freedom
What would I ask any office holder? Do you really believe in preserving,
protecting and defending all our religious freedoms, from any enemies,
foreign and domestic? Doesn't religious freedom includes any woman's right
to ask her God most high, what to do, about carrying their Zygote to full
term? Doesn't carrying to full term, involve carrying your child for up to
18 years plus through college, & again when they come back? Should any
office holder or anyone else, tell any woman, what her religious beliefs
should be, or what her God should say? Could even heaven help them, when
they try to play God, with her? Could women not learn more, from also asking
the mothers that had lived this experience? Could we not incentivize more
successful full terms? Didn't our Declaration of Independence say we were
going to "promote the general welfare"? So, shouldn't we support any
affirmative decisions to carry to full term, by providing universal health,
wellness, & nurturing support, for all our children, so that a decision for
life, is never a decision for a bad life? Could we not be pro God, pro
freedom, and pro life, when we look from higher levels?
It's a great idea. Unfortunately, we have too many politicians who think
they have a direct line to God, when all they really have is an overfed ego.
Very Respectfully,
Michael
http://RecoveryByDiscovery.com/abortion.htm
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| User: "Michael" |
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15 Sep 2005 01:12:33 PM |
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"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twoFILTER@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1126735107_313@spool6-east.superfeed.net...
Michael wrote:
Pro God, Life & Freedom
What would I ask any office holder? Do you really believe in preserving,
protecting and defending all our religious freedoms, from any enemies,
foreign and domestic? Doesn't religious freedom includes any woman's
right to ask her God most high, what to do, about carrying their Zygote
to full term? Doesn't carrying to full term, involve carrying your child
for up to 18 years plus through college, & again when they come back?
Should any office holder or anyone else, tell any woman, what her
religious beliefs should be, or what her God should say? Could even
heaven help them, when they try to play God, with her? Could women not
learn more, from also asking the mothers that had lived this experience?
Could we not incentivize more successful full terms? Didn't our
Declaration of Independence say we were going to "promote the general
welfare"? So, shouldn't we support any affirmative decisions to carry to
full term, by providing universal health, wellness, & nurturing support,
for all our children, so that a decision for life, is never a decision
for a bad life? Could we not be pro God, pro freedom, and pro life, when
we look from higher levels?
It's a great idea. Unfortunately, we have too many politicians who think
they have a direct line to God, when all they really have is an overfed
ego.
Very Respectfully,
Michael
http://RecoveryByDiscovery.com/abortion.htm
So, you have discovered their secrets... Michael
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Pro God, Life & Freedom |
14 Sep 2005 05:14:56 PM |
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:48:35 -0400, "Michael"
<nospamnews@spam.recoverybydiscovery.com> in alt.abortion with
message-id <_8udnWfrJ-v-ybXenZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@adelphia.com> wrote:
Pro God, Life & Freedom
What would I ask any office holder? Do you really believe in preserving,
protecting and defending all our religious freedoms, from any enemies,
foreign and domestic? Doesn't religious freedom includes any woman's right
to ask her God most high, what to do, about carrying their Zygote to full
term? Doesn't carrying to full term, involve carrying your child for up to
18 years plus through college, & again when they come back? Should any
office holder or anyone else, tell any woman, what her religious beliefs
should be, or what her God should say? Could even heaven help them, when
they try to play God, with her? Could women not learn more, from also asking
the mothers that had lived this experience? Could we not incentivize more
successful full terms? Didn't our Declaration of Independence say we were
going to "promote the general welfare"?
No.
So, shouldn't we support any
affirmative decisions to carry to full term, by providing universal health,
wellness, & nurturing support, for all our children, so that a decision for
life, is never a decision for a bad life?
No.
Could we not be pro God
Prove any god exists.
, pro
freedom, and pro life, when we look from higher levels?
Very Respectfully,
Michael
http://RecoveryByDiscovery.com/abortion.htm
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| User: "Michael" |
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| Title: Re: Pro God, Life & Freedom |
15 Sep 2005 08:06:55 AM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:48:35 -0400, "Michael"
<nospamnews@spam.recoverybydiscovery.com> in alt.abortion with
message-id <_8udnWfrJ-v-ybXenZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@adelphia.com> wrote:
Pro God, Life & Freedom
What would I ask any office holder? Do you really believe in preserving,
protecting and defending all our religious freedoms, from any enemies,
foreign and domestic? Doesn't religious freedom includes any woman's right
to ask her God most high, what to do, about carrying their Zygote to full
term? Doesn't carrying to full term, involve carrying your child for up to
18 years plus through college, & again when they come back? Should any
office holder or anyone else, tell any woman, what her religious beliefs
should be, or what her God should say? Could even heaven help them, when
they try to play God, with her? Could women not learn more, from also
asking
the mothers that had lived this experience? Could we not incentivize more
successful full terms? Didn't our Declaration of Independence say we were
going to "promote the general welfare"?
No.
So, shouldn't we support any
affirmative decisions to carry to full term, by providing universal
health,
wellness, & nurturing support, for all our children, so that a decision
for
life, is never a decision for a bad life?
No.
Could we not be pro God
Prove any god exists.
What would be proof to you? You could ask God any question. The proplem
with getting answers, is that you may not be ready to receive your answer
yet. A couple of my questions took about 40 years. Perhaps proof will be
easier after spending some time with the FACTS... Forgiving, Accepting,
Compassion, Thankfulness and Sensing Spirit.
Very Respectfully,
Michael
http://REcoveryByDiscovery.com
, pro
freedom, and pro life, when we look from higher levels?
Very Respectfully,
Michael
http://RecoveryByDiscovery.com/abortion.htm
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| User: "Attila" |
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15 Sep 2005 04:11:58 PM |
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:06:55 -0400, "Michael"
<nospamnews@spam.recoverybydiscovery.com> in alt.abortion with
message-id <mbCdnXNimaFy7LTeRVn-qg@adelphia.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:u48hi11je6ol26mpl7rr3a6nd98p4lipo0@4ax.com...
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:48:35 -0400, "Michael"
<nospamnews@spam.recoverybydiscovery.com> in alt.abortion with
message-id <_8udnWfrJ-v-ybXenZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@adelphia.com> wrote:
Pro God, Life & Freedom
What would I ask any office holder? Do you really believe in preserving,
protecting and defending all our religious freedoms, from any enemies,
foreign and domestic? Doesn't religious freedom includes any woman's right
to ask her God most high, what to do, about carrying their Zygote to full
term? Doesn't carrying to full term, involve carrying your child for up to
18 years plus through college, & again when they come back? Should any
office holder or anyone else, tell any woman, what her religious beliefs
should be, or what her God should say? Could even heaven help them, when
they try to play God, with her? Could women not learn more, from also
asking
the mothers that had lived this experience? Could we not incentivize more
successful full terms? Didn't our Declaration of Independence say we were
going to "promote the general welfare"?
No.
So, shouldn't we support any
affirmative decisions to carry to full term, by providing universal
health,
wellness, & nurturing support, for all our children, so that a decision
for
life, is never a decision for a bad life?
No.
Could we not be pro God
Prove any god exists.
What would be proof to you?
The same order of proof required for any such unlikely subject.
You could ask God any question. The proplem
with getting answers, is that you may not be ready to receive your answer
yet. A couple of my questions took about 40 years.
Was there an experimental determination made as to why the time delay?
Does this hold for everyone? Exactly what are the parameters of the
time frame under which a reply is received and what are the
requirements for speeding up or slowing down a response?
There are thousands of other questions but that would be a start. Of
course, the results must be verifiable by experimental repetition.
Perhaps proof will be
easier after spending some time with the FACTS... Forgiving, Accepting,
Compassion, Thankfulness and Sensing Spirit.
Prove those are actually facts.
Very Respectfully,
Michael
, pro
freedom, and pro life, when we look from higher levels?
Very Respectfully,
Michael
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| User: "Paul Anderson" |
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15 Sep 2005 08:58:31 AM |
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:06:55 -0400, "Michael"
<nospamnews@spam.recoverybydiscovery.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote ....
Prove any god exists.
What would be proof to you? You could ask God any question. The proplem
with getting answers, is that you may not be ready to receive your answer
yet. A couple of my questions took about 40 years. Perhaps proof will be
easier after spending some time with the FACTS... Forgiving, Accepting,
Compassion, Thankfulness and Sensing Spirit.
Proof would have to be something beyond "After 40 years something good
happened to me -- therefore God exists." Proof is something more than
"we exists, I don't know why, thus God exists."
You need to show that what happens is caused by God and cannot be
caused by something more reasonable.
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| User: "Michael" |
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15 Sep 2005 01:21:20 PM |
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"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:43297caa.341526078@news.la.sbcglobal.net...
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:06:55 -0400, "Michael"
<nospamnews@spam.recoverybydiscovery.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote ....
Prove any god exists.
What would be proof to you? You could ask God any question. The proplem
with getting answers, is that you may not be ready to receive your answer
yet. A couple of my questions took about 40 years. Perhaps proof will be
easier after spending some time with the FACTS... Forgiving, Accepting,
Compassion, Thankfulness and Sensing Spirit.
Proof would have to be something beyond "After 40 years something good
happened to me -- therefore God exists." Proof is something more than
"we exists, I don't know why, thus God exists."
You need to show that what happens is caused by God and cannot be
caused by something more reasonable.
Perhaps you missed what I was trying to impart. What I have experienced
has proved the existance of God to me, and continues to make sense of most
everything. But, these experiences are what were relevant to me. What is
relevant to you, is what is relevant to you. What is proof to you is what
is
proof to you. Your criteria for proof could be so high that you would be
unlikely to experience that proof. What question could you ask that an
answer would proove that God existed for you?
Very Respectfully,
Michael
http://RecoveryByDiscovery.com
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| User: "Attila" |
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15 Sep 2005 04:15:28 PM |
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:21:20 -0400, "Michael"
<nospamnews@spam.recoverybydiscovery.com> in alt.abortion with
message-id <Nt-dnZBAV8A9JrTeRVn-sA@adelphia.com> wrote:
"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:43297caa.341526078@news.la.sbcglobal.net...
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:06:55 -0400, "Michael"
<nospamnews@spam.recoverybydiscovery.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote ....
Prove any god exists.
What would be proof to you? You could ask God any question. The proplem
with getting answers, is that you may not be ready to receive your answer
yet. A couple of my questions took about 40 years. Perhaps proof will be
easier after spending some time with the FACTS... Forgiving, Accepting,
Compassion, Thankfulness and Sensing Spirit.
Proof would have to be something beyond "After 40 years something good
happened to me -- therefore God exists." Proof is something more than
"we exists, I don't know why, thus God exists."
You need to show that what happens is caused by God and cannot be
caused by something more reasonable.
Perhaps you missed what I was trying to impart. What I have experienced
has proved the existance of God to me, and continues to make sense of most
everything. But, these experiences are what were relevant to me. What is
relevant to you, is what is relevant to you. What is proof to you is what
is
proof to you. Your criteria for proof could be so high that you would be
unlikely to experience that proof.
Proof is not experienced. Do you experience the proof an elephant
exists? Or that Mars exists?
What question could you ask that an
answer would proove that God existed for you?
None. Proof seldom involves answers to questions.
Main Entry: 1proof
Pronunciation: 'prüf
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, alteration of preove, from Old French
preuve, from Late Latin proba, from Latin probare to prove -- more at
PROVE
1 a : the cogency of evidence that compels acceptance by the mind of a
truth or a fact b : the process or an instance of establishing the
validity of a statement especially by derivation from other statements
in accordance with principles of reasoning
2 obsolete : EXPERIENCE
3 : something that induces certainty or establishes validity
4 archaic : the quality or state of having been tested or tried;
especially : unyielding hardness
5 : evidence operating to determine the finding or judgment of a
tribunal
6 a plural proofs or proof : a copy (as of typeset text) made for
examination or correction b : a test impression of an engraving,
etching, or lithograph c : a coin that is struck from a
highly-polished die on a polished planchet, is not intended for
circulation, and sometimes differs in metallic content from coins of
identical design struck for circulation d : a test photographic print
made from a negative
7 : a test applied to articles or substances to determine whether they
are of standard or satisfactory quality
8 a : the minimum alcoholic strength of proof spirit b : strength with
reference to the standard for proof spirit; specifically : alcoholic
strength indicated by a number that is twice the percent by volume of
alcohol present <whiskey of 90 proof is 45% alcohol
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=proof&x=18&y=21
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| User: "Paul Anderson" |
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15 Sep 2005 05:45:53 PM |
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:21:20 -0400, "Michael"
<nospamnews@spam.recoverybydiscovery.com> wrote:
"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:43297caa.341526078@news.la.sbcglobal.net...
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:06:55 -0400, "Michael"
<nospamnews@spam.recoverybydiscovery.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote ....
Prove any god exists.
What would be proof to you? You could ask God any question. The proplem
with getting answers, is that you may not be ready to receive your answer
yet. A couple of my questions took about 40 years. Perhaps proof will be
easier after spending some time with the FACTS... Forgiving, Accepting,
Compassion, Thankfulness and Sensing Spirit.
Proof would have to be something beyond "After 40 years something good
happened to me -- therefore God exists." Proof is something more than
"we exists, I don't know why, thus God exists."
You need to show that what happens is caused by God and cannot be
caused by something more reasonable.
Perhaps you missed what I was trying to impart. What I have experienced
has proved the existance of God to me, and continues to make sense of most
everything. But, these experiences are what were relevant to me. What is
relevant to you, is what is relevant to you. What is proof to you is what
is
proof to you. Your criteria for proof could be so high that you would be
unlikely to experience that proof.
Proof is independent of belief and personal experience.
So you asked questions and eventually you came up with the answers.
Why do you feel it was God that answered rather than some other,
simplier explanation? Are defining God as some sort of Oracle?
What question could you ask that an
answer would proove that God existed for you?
Man in Black: Nothing comes to mind.
My beliefs have nothing whatsoever to do with any proof.
Your beliefs have nothing whatsoever to do with any proof.
What is being asked is proof that a god, any god, exists. Attila is
being generous in that you get to define what you mean by God;
although you may be challenged as to why your definition is valid.
Once you have stated what God is, then you can present evidence for or
against God's existence.
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| User: "Attila" |
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15 Sep 2005 09:39:08 PM |
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 22:45:53 GMT, (Paul Anderson)
in alt.abortion with message-id
<4329f104.371311968@news.la.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:21:20 -0400, "Michael"
<nospamnews@spam.recoverybydiscovery.com> wrote:
"Paul Anderson" < > wrote in message
news:43297caa.341526078@news.la.sbcglobal.net...
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:06:55 -0400, "Michael"
<nospamnews@spam.recoverybydiscovery.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote ....
Prove any god exists.
What would be proof to you? You could ask God any question. The proplem
with getting answers, is that you may not be ready to receive your answer
yet. A couple of my questions took about 40 years. Perhaps proof will be
easier after spending some time with the FACTS... Forgiving, Accepting,
Compassion, Thankfulness and Sensing Spirit.
Proof would have to be something beyond "After 40 years something good
happened to me -- therefore God exists." Proof is something more than
"we exists, I don't know why, thus God exists."
You need to show that what happens is caused by God and cannot be
caused by something more reasonable.
Perhaps you missed what I was trying to impart. What I have experienced
has proved the existance of God to me, and continues to make sense of most
everything. But, these experiences are what were relevant to me. What is
relevant to you, is what is relevant to you. What is proof to you is what
is
proof to you. Your criteria for proof could be so high that you would be
unlikely to experience that proof.
Proof is independent of belief and personal experience.
So you asked questions and eventually you came up with the answers.
Why do you feel it was God that answered rather than some other,
simplier explanation? Are defining God as some sort of Oracle?
What question could you ask that an
answer would proove that God existed for you?
Man in Black: Nothing comes to mind.
My beliefs have nothing whatsoever to do with any proof.
Your beliefs have nothing whatsoever to do with any proof.
What is being asked is proof that a god, any god, exists. Attila is
being generous in that you get to define what you mean by God;
although you may be challenged as to why your definition is valid.
Once you have stated what God is, then you can present evidence for or
against God's existence.
He can even pick any god he likes.
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