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"Transition Zone" |
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06 Aug 2005 06:22:30 PM |
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pro-life is a CROCK. |
Century after century, pro-lifers of the west have used "collateral
damage" to kill thousands of pregnant women (both the woman and fetus)
- today - all while chasing one man.
Just one man.
Today, the pro-life republican west controls the US, Afghanistan and
Iraq. Pro life westerners want to completely control the fetus-mother
relationship in America while using the Armed Forces and "collateral
damage" to destroy it.
The pro life movement in America is just what the byline above says it
is:
a CROCK.
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| User: "ray ohara" |
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| Title: Re: pro-life is a CROCK. |
07 Aug 2005 12:22:43 PM |
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"Transition Zone" <mogulah@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1123370550.375790.161900@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Century after century, pro-lifers of the west have used "collateral
damage" to kill thousands of pregnant women (both the woman and fetus)
- today - all while chasing one man.
Just one man.
Today, the pro-life republican west controls the US, Afghanistan and
Iraq. Pro life westerners want to completely control the fetus-mother
relationship in America while using the Armed Forces and "collateral
damage" to destroy it.
The pro life movement in America is just what the byline above says it
is:
a CROCK.
most pro-lifers believs as the saying goes that human rights begin at
conception and end at birth, no group wants more government intrusion into
our lives than they do.
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| User: "BOB" |
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| Title: Re: pro-life is a CROCK. |
07 Aug 2005 12:32:08 PM |
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"ray o'hara" <roh@comcast.net> wrote in
news:qJmdnY4UWYv43mvfRVn-3w@comcast.com:
"Transition Zone" <mogulah@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1123370550.375790.161900@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Century after century, pro-lifers of the west have used "collateral
damage" to kill thousands of pregnant women (both the woman and
fetus) - today - all while chasing one man.
Just one man.
Today, the pro-life republican west controls the US, Afghanistan and
Iraq. Pro life westerners want to completely control the fetus-mother
relationship in America while using the Armed Forces and "collateral
damage" to destroy it.
The pro life movement in America is just what the byline above says
it is:
a CROCK.
most pro-lifers believs as the saying goes that human rights begin at
conception and end at birth, no group wants more government intrusion
into our lives than they do.
Because the anti-choice loons cannot win their case on merit, they want
the government to force their Taliban-like views on everyone else.
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| User: "ray ohara" |
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07 Aug 2005 04:40:03 PM |
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"BOB" <> > most pro-lifers believs as the saying goes that human rights
begin at
conception and end at birth, no group wants more government intrusion
into our lives than they do.
Because the anti-choice loons cannot win their case on merit, they want
the government to force their Taliban-like views on everyone else.
all the while they vote against anything that would make abortion
unessesary.
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| User: "BOB" |
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07 Aug 2005 05:13:55 PM |
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"ray o'hara" <roh@comcast.net> wrote in news:ocSdnZ2dnZ3mZQD6nZ2dnSjia9-
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"BOB" <> > most pro-lifers believs as the saying goes that human rights
begin at
conception and end at birth, no group wants more government intrusion
into our lives than they do.
Because the anti-choice loons cannot win their case on merit, they want
the government to force their Taliban-like views on everyone else.
all the while they vote against anything that would make abortion
unessesary.
The real root of the anti-choice cause is _control_ of people's sex and
reproductive lives, not abortion. They couldn't care less about the zefs.
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| User: "Bart" |
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| Title: Re: pro-life is a CROCK. |
08 Aug 2005 07:47:07 PM |
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BOB wrote:
most pro-lifers believs as the saying goes that human rights
begin at conception and end at birth, no group wants more government intrusion
into our lives than they do.
Because the anti-choice loons cannot win their case on merit, they want
the government to force their Taliban-like views on everyone else.
The real root of the anti-choice cause is _control_ of people's sex and
reproductive lives, not abortion. They couldn't care less about the zefs.
Can you pass the Kool-Aid, please?
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| User: "BOB" |
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08 Aug 2005 08:39:29 PM |
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"Bart" <spambuster@jam.rr.com> wrote in
news:1123548427.760729.14940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
BOB wrote:
most pro-lifers believs as the saying goes that human rights
begin at conception and end at birth, no group wants more
government intrusion
into our lives than they do.
Because the anti-choice loons cannot win their case on merit, they
want the government to force their Taliban-like views on everyone
else.
The real root of the anti-choice cause is _control_ of people's sex
and reproductive lives, not abortion. They couldn't care less about
the zefs.
Can you pass the Kool-Aid, please?
How about a little whine with your cheese?
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| User: "Sadburger" |
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| Title: Re: pro-life is a CROCK. |
07 Aug 2005 06:55:10 PM |
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In article <Xns96AB9AF3AF8AASD@68.6.19.6>, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:
"ray o'hara" <roh@comcast.net> wrote in news:ocSdnZ2dnZ3mZQD6nZ2dnSjia9-
dnZ2dRVn-zp2dnZ0@comcast.com:
"BOB" <> > most pro-lifers believs as the saying goes that human rights
begin at
conception and end at birth, no group wants more government intrusion
into our lives than they do.
Because the anti-choice loons cannot win their case on merit, they want
the government to force their Taliban-like views on everyone else.
all the while they vote against anything that would make abortion
unessesary.
The real root of the anti-choice cause is _control_ of people's sex and
reproductive lives, not abortion. They couldn't care less about the zefs.
Looks like you guys have reached an agreement!
--
email------ - - . i'd like least be an inuit cuz
. everything is cold and ***** and
web-------- - - . everything's made of snow and *****
home.earthlink.net/~tagutcow . when you're an eskimo and *****.
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| User: "ray ohara" |
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07 Aug 2005 07:44:29 PM |
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"Sadburger" > > The real root of the anti-choice cause is _control_ of
people's sex and
reproductive lives, not abortion. They couldn't care less about the
zefs.
Looks like you guys have reached an agreement!
bob knows of what he speaks gainsburger.
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| User: "BOB" |
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07 Aug 2005 07:18:53 PM |
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(Sadburger) wrote in
news:tagutcow-0708051952400001@user-0c992qm.cable.mindspring.com:
In article <Xns96AB9AF3AF8AASD@68.6.19.6>, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:
"ray o'hara" <roh@comcast.net> wrote in
news:ocSdnZ2dnZ3mZQD6nZ2dnSjia9- dnZ2dRVn-zp2dnZ0@comcast.com:
"BOB" <> > most pro-lifers believs as the saying goes that human
rights begin at
conception and end at birth, no group wants more government
intrusion into our lives than they do.
Because the anti-choice loons cannot win their case on merit, they
want the government to force their Taliban-like views on everyone
else.
all the while they vote against anything that would make abortion
unessesary.
The real root of the anti-choice cause is _control_ of people's sex
and reproductive lives, not abortion. They couldn't care less about
the zefs.
Looks like you guys have reached an agreement!
Looks like, hamburger, looks like.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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06 Aug 2005 09:50:42 PM |
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"Transition Zone" <mogulah@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1123370550.375790.161900@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Century after century, pro-lifers of the west have used "collateral
damage" to kill thousands of pregnant women (both the woman and fetus)
- today - all while chasing one man.
Just one man.
Today, the pro-life republican west controls the US, Afghanistan and
Iraq. Pro life westerners want to completely control the fetus-mother
relationship in America while using the Armed Forces and "collateral
damage" to destroy it.
The pro life movement in America is just what the byline above says it
is:
a CROCK.
Your mother is a CROCK then since she gave birth to you.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!
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| User: "][-][ //-" |
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23 Aug 2005 09:13:11 AM |
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American christians are stupid, they call goo "Human life" and don't
support "destroying life to preserve it", yet have no problem dropping
bombs to spread "democracy" thus destroying ACTUAL people, not goo. I
guess maybe democracy doesn't preserve life? if it did, they would be
against it to I reckon, wouldn't they? or perhaps they just don't
consider muslims to be humans.
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| User: "Paul Anderson" |
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06 Aug 2005 09:33:33 PM |
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On 6 Aug 2005 16:22:30 -0700, "Transition Zone" <mogulah@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Century after century, pro-lifers of the west have used "collateral
damage" to kill thousands .....
You need you learn how to use capitalization -- pro-life, lower case,
means to favor life. Pro-Life, capitalized, is a proper name for
those (from the American Heritage Dictionary) opposing legalized
abortion. Being Pro-Life as absolutely nothing to do with being
pro-life. Being Pro-Life is only concerned with criminalizing
abortion. They do not even care that since George W. Bush has taken
control that the abortion rate has increased dramatically.
Once you realize that Pro-Lifers care nothing about the lives of
others you will also realize that they don't give a ***** about killing
others either.
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| User: "David Marc Nieporent" |
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07 Aug 2005 12:39:19 AM |
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In article <42f5717b.598960312@news.la.sbcglobal.net>,
(Paul Anderson) wrote:
"Transition Zone" <mogulah@hotmail.com> wrote:
Century after century, pro-lifers of the west have used "collateral
damage" to kill thousands .....
You need you learn how to use capitalization -- pro-life, lower case,
means to favor life. Pro-Life, capitalized, is a proper name for
those (from the American Heritage Dictionary) opposing legalized
abortion. Being Pro-Life as absolutely nothing to do with being
pro-life. Being Pro-Life is only concerned with criminalizing
abortion. They do not even care that since George W. Bush has taken
control that the abortion rate has increased dramatically.
Perhaps because it hasn't? That was a preliminary conclusion based on
incomplete data. Full data showed the opposite.
---------------------------------------------
David M. Nieporent
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| User: "Paul Anderson" |
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07 Aug 2005 07:51:56 AM |
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On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 01:39:19 -0400, David Marc Nieporent
<nieporen@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote:
In article <42f5717b.598960312@news.la.sbcglobal.net>,
elcoyote@netzero.net (Paul Anderson) wrote:
"Transition Zone" <mogulah@hotmail.com> wrote:
Century after century, pro-lifers of the west have used "collateral
damage" to kill thousands .....
You need you learn how to use capitalization -- pro-life, lower case,
means to favor life. Pro-Life, capitalized, is a proper name for
those (from the American Heritage Dictionary) opposing legalized
abortion. Being Pro-Life as absolutely nothing to do with being
pro-life. Being Pro-Life is only concerned with criminalizing
abortion. They do not even care that since George W. Bush has taken
control that the abortion rate has increased dramatically.
Perhaps because it hasn't? That was a preliminary conclusion based on
incomplete data. Full data showed the opposite.
Cite?
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| User: "annabelle" |
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07 Aug 2005 10:30:56 AM |
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"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:42f603d1.636422390@news.la.sbcglobal.net...
On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 01:39:19 -0400, David Marc Nieporent
<nieporen@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote:
In article <42f5717b.598960312@news.la.sbcglobal.net>,
elcoyote@netzero.net (Paul Anderson) wrote:
"Transition Zone" <mogulah@hotmail.com> wrote:
Century after century, pro-lifers of the west have used "collateral
damage" to kill thousands .....
You need you learn how to use capitalization -- pro-life, lower case,
means to favor life. Pro-Life, capitalized, is a proper name for
those (from the American Heritage Dictionary) opposing legalized
abortion. Being Pro-Life as absolutely nothing to do with being
pro-life. Being Pro-Life is only concerned with criminalizing
abortion. They do not even care that since George W. Bush has taken
control that the abortion rate has increased dramatically.
Perhaps because it hasn't? That was a preliminary conclusion based on
incomplete data. Full data showed the opposite.
Cite?
http://www.factcheck.org/article330.html
Pro-choice, fan of truth,
Anna Belle
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| User: "Paul Anderson" |
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07 Aug 2005 03:08:39 PM |
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On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 15:30:56 GMT, "annabelle" <annabelle@rcltd.org>
wrote:
"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:42f603d1.636422390@news.la.sbcglobal.net...
On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 01:39:19 -0400, David Marc Nieporent
<nieporen@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote:
In article <42f5717b.598960312@news.la.sbcglobal.net>,
elcoyote@netzero.net (Paul Anderson) wrote:
"Transition Zone" <mogulah@hotmail.com> wrote:
Century after century, pro-lifers of the west have used "collateral
damage" to kill thousands .....
You need you learn how to use capitalization -- pro-life, lower case,
means to favor life. Pro-Life, capitalized, is a proper name for
those (from the American Heritage Dictionary) opposing legalized
abortion. Being Pro-Life as absolutely nothing to do with being
pro-life. Being Pro-Life is only concerned with criminalizing
abortion. They do not even care that since George W. Bush has taken
control that the abortion rate has increased dramatically.
Perhaps because it hasn't? That was a preliminary conclusion based on
incomplete data. Full data showed the opposite.
Cite?
http://www.factcheck.org/article330.html
Sorry, that is not a primary source, nor is it or does it link to
"Full data."
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| User: "Jonathan" |
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08 Aug 2005 11:35:19 PM |
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"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:42f669ae.662498656@news.la.sbcglobal.net...
On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 15:30:56 GMT, "annabelle" <annabelle@rcltd.org>
wrote:
"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:42f603d1.636422390@news.la.sbcglobal.net...
On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 01:39:19 -0400, David Marc Nieporent
<nieporen@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote:
In article <42f5717b.598960312@news.la.sbcglobal.net>,
elcoyote@netzero.net (Paul Anderson) wrote:
"Transition Zone" <mogulah@hotmail.com> wrote:
Century after century, pro-lifers of the west have used "collateral
damage" to kill thousands .....
You need you learn how to use capitalization -- pro-life, lower case,
means to favor life. Pro-Life, capitalized, is a proper name for
those (from the American Heritage Dictionary) opposing legalized
abortion. Being Pro-Life as absolutely nothing to do with being
pro-life. Being Pro-Life is only concerned with criminalizing
abortion. They do not even care that since George W. Bush has taken
control that the abortion rate has increased dramatically.
Perhaps because it hasn't? That was a preliminary conclusion based on
incomplete data. Full data showed the opposite.
Cite?
http://www.factcheck.org/article330.html
Sorry, that is not a primary source, nor is it or does it link to
"Full data."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/18/AR2005071801164.html
Jonathan
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| User: "Paul Anderson" |
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09 Aug 2005 05:59:59 AM |
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On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 23:35:19 -0500, "Jonathan"
<jrcdehc@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:42f669ae.662498656@news.la.sbcglobal.net...
On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 15:30:56 GMT, "annabelle" <annabelle@rcltd.org>
wrote:
"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:42f603d1.636422390@news.la.sbcglobal.net...
On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 01:39:19 -0400, David Marc Nieporent
<nieporen@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote:
In article <42f5717b.598960312@news.la.sbcglobal.net>,
elcoyote@netzero.net (Paul Anderson) wrote:
"Transition Zone" <mogulah@hotmail.com> wrote:
Century after century, pro-lifers of the west have used "collateral
damage" to kill thousands .....
You need you learn how to use capitalization -- pro-life, lower case,
means to favor life. Pro-Life, capitalized, is a proper name for
those (from the American Heritage Dictionary) opposing legalized
abortion. Being Pro-Life as absolutely nothing to do with being
pro-life. Being Pro-Life is only concerned with criminalizing
abortion. They do not even care that since George W. Bush has taken
control that the abortion rate has increased dramatically.
Perhaps because it hasn't? That was a preliminary conclusion based on
incomplete data. Full data showed the opposite.
Cite?
http://www.factcheck.org/article330.html
Sorry, that is not a primary source, nor is it or does it link to
"Full data."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/18/AR2005071801164.html
A news reporting service is not a primary source.
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| User: "Transition Zone" |
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09 Aug 2005 04:51:40 PM |
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Paul Anderson wrote:
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 23:35:19 -0500, "Jonathan"
<jrcdehc@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:42f669ae.662498656@news.la.sbcglobal.net...
On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 15:30:56 GMT, "annabelle" <annabelle@rcltd.org>
wrote:
"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:42f603d1.636422390@news.la.sbcglobal.net...
On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 01:39:19 -0400, David Marc Nieporent
<nieporen@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote:
In article <42f5717b.598960312@news.la.sbcglobal.net>,
elcoyote@netzero.net (Paul Anderson) wrote:
"Transition Zone" <mogulah@hotmail.com> wrote:
Century after century, pro-lifers of the west have used "collateral
damage" to kill thousands .....
You need you learn how to use capitalization -- pro-life, lower case,
means to favor life. Pro-Life, capitalized, is a proper name for
those (from the American Heritage Dictionary) opposing legalized
abortion. Being Pro-Life as absolutely nothing to do with being
pro-life. Being Pro-Life is only concerned with criminalizing
abortion. They do not even care that since George W. Bush has taken
control that the abortion rate has increased dramatically.
Perhaps because it hasn't? That was a preliminary conclusion based on
incomplete data. Full data showed the opposite.
Cite?
http://www.factcheck.org/article330.html
Sorry, that is not a primary source, nor is it or does it link to
"Full data."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/18/AR2005071801164.html
A news reporting service is not a primary source.
It is if no other source is presented.
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| User: "Sadburger" |
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07 Aug 2005 04:30:26 PM |
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In article <42f669ae.662498656@news.la.sbcglobal.net>,
elcoyote@netzero.net (Paul Anderson) wrote:
On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 15:30:56 GMT, "annabelle" <annabelle@rcltd.org>
wrote:
http://www.factcheck.org/article330.html
Sorry, that is not a primary source, nor is it or does it link to
"Full data."
No, for that you have to go to the Alan Guttmacher report very
convieniently linked in the references at the bottom.
http://www.agi-usa.org/media/nr/2005/05/19/index.html
Somehow I doubt Paul was this discriminating with the original report
that said abortions had increased. But being as how the original report
came from a seminarian, maybe Paul can use this as ammo when he starts
beating on about how much Christians lie.
Nevermind Paul's moronic implication that- even if abortions *had*
increased- it was through the direct agency of Bush, or had happened for
reasons within Bush's control.
--
email------ - - . i'd like least be an inuit cuz
. everything is cold and ***** and
web-------- - - . everything's made of snow and *****
home.earthlink.net/~tagutcow . when you're an eskimo and *****.
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07 Aug 2005 08:49:03 AM |
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Paul Anderson wrote:
On 6 Aug 2005 16:22:30 -0700, "Transition Zone" <mogulah@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Century after century, pro-lifers of the west have used "collateral
damage" to kill thousands .....
You need you learn how to use capitalization --
I already know.
(and thank you, sir, for showing concern)
pro-life, lower case,
means to favor life.
Incorrect.
pro-life:
adj.
Advocating full legal protection of human embryos or fetuses,
especially by opposing legalized abortion.
Function: adjective
: ANTIABORTION
Source: Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, =A9 2002 Merriam-Webster,
Inc.
pro-life
adj : advocating full legal protection of embryos and fetuses
(especially opposing the legalization of induced abortions) [ant:
pro-choice]
Source: WordNet =AE 2.0, =A9 2003 Princeton University
(http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=3Dpro-life)
Pro-Life, capitalized, is a proper name for
those (from the American Heritage Dictionary) opposing legalized
abortion. Being Pro-Life as absolutely nothing to do with being
pro-life.
And feel free to offer further citation of this sort of a claim,
please.
Being Pro-Life is only concerned with criminalizing
abortion. They do not even care that since George W. Bush has taken
control that the abortion rate has increased dramatically.
I somewhat agree.
Once you realize that Pro-Lifers care nothing about the lives of
others you will also realize that they don't give a ***** about killing
others either.
True, perhaps.
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12 Aug 2005 08:24:17 AM |
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Transition zone, I'm sorry but after several days of puzzling over your
original posting it still doesn't make much sense to me.
Pro-Life became shorthand for "anti-abortion" only in the last 50 years
or so - who are you talking about when you say that they were doing
stuff "century after century"?
"pro-lifers of the west" - do you mean a sub-group of world wide
pro-lifers? Did the pro-lifers of the east do things differently?
What one man were these pro-lifers chasing? Perhaps I could then
understand why you emphasise "just one man".
Which armed forces are destroying the fetus-mother relationship in
America, how are they doing this, and please explain what aspects of
the fetus-mother relationship I should be concerned about most.
Jan
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18 Aug 2005 11:36:17 AM |
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all the while they vote against anything that would make abortion
unessesary.
Not all of us who don't like abortion are against those actions which
would lessen the rate. I personally would love to see adoption touted
more, as I would also love to see social welfare programs made more
available to those who need them most. It is quite possible the
abortion rates would go down among older women if we made it possible
for them to raise their child in the state in which said child
deserves. Not because it is legally forbidden, but simply because those
women would be able to choose to bring their child to term.
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| User: "~j i.m~" |
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18 Aug 2005 05:21:17 PM |
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In article <1124382977.197996.237590@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
wrote:
all the while they vote against anything that would make abortion
unessesary.
Not all of us who don't like abortion are against those actions which
would lessen the rate. I personally would love to see adoption touted
more, as I would also love to see social welfare programs made more
available to those who need them most. It is quite possible the
abortion rates would go down among older women if we made it possible
for them to raise their child in the state in which said child
deserves. Not because it is legally forbidden, but simply because those
women would be able to choose to bring their child to term.
How about this -
the skanks who get knocked up and don;t know who the Daddy is - have
their kids and pay to raise them themselves or they give them up.
how about those that need welfare get a fucking job like the rest of us.
Get rid of welfare and the little ***** queens won't need welfare.
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| User: "Paul Anderson" |
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| Title: Re: pro-life is a CROCK. |
18 Aug 2005 03:02:48 PM |
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On 18 Aug 2005 09:36:17 -0700, wrote:
all the while they vote against anything that would make abortion
unessesary.
Not all of us who don't like abortion are against those actions which
would lessen the rate. I personally would love to see adoption touted
more, as I would also love to see social welfare programs made more
available to those who need them most. It is quite possible the
abortion rates would go down among older women if we made it possible
for them to raise their child in the state in which said child
deserves. Not because it is legally forbidden, but simply because those
women would be able to choose to bring their child to term.
How about programs encouraging safe sex, programs telling people that
sex is not something they need to be ashamed of and that no one cares
if 15-year-olds buy condoms.
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| User: "Elle" |
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| Title: Re: pro-life is a CROCK. |
19 Aug 2005 10:41:43 PM |
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"John Dowling" <john.dowling4@verizon.net> wrote
elect wrote
How about programs encouraging safe sex, programs telling people that
sex is not something they need to be ashamed of and that no one cares
if 15-year-olds buy condoms.
Frankly, sir, as the father of a 15 year old daughter, I do care if "
... 15-year-olds buy condoms" and I take no shame in that.
Would you feel the same if you had a 15-year-old son?
I am not wild about telling a teenage mixed (boys and girls) crowd that sex
is nothing to be ashamed of without more context.
Studies on promiscuity indicate greater mental health problems and an
inability to experience intimacy or emotional commitment. Plus of course
there's the higher likelihood of having to go through an abortion or an
unwanted child birth, perpetuating a cycle of poverty that has gone on too
long in many parts of the country. Sleeping around randomly is something to
be ashamed of.
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| User: "~j i.m~" |
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| Title: Re: pro-life is a CROCK. |
18 Aug 2005 05:22:11 PM |
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In article <4304e911.182895703@news.la.sbcglobal.net>,
(Paul Anderson) wrote:
On 18 Aug 2005 09:36:17 -0700, wrote:
all the while they vote against anything that would make abortion
unessesary.
Not all of us who don't like abortion are against those actions which
would lessen the rate. I personally would love to see adoption touted
more, as I would also love to see social welfare programs made more
available to those who need them most. It is quite possible the
abortion rates would go down among older women if we made it possible
for them to raise their child in the state in which said child
deserves. Not because it is legally forbidden, but simply because those
women would be able to choose to bring their child to term.
How about programs encouraging safe sex, programs telling people that
sex is not something they need to be ashamed of and that no one cares
if 15-year-olds buy condoms.
How about mom and dad being repsonsible for their own fucking kids and
taxpayers not paying for programs to teach them to go and screw.
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| User: "Paul Anderson" |
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| Title: Re: pro-life is a CROCK. |
18 Aug 2005 09:19:48 PM |
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On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 18:22:11 -0400, "~j i.m~"
<liberals-r-evil@liberalshateamerica.com> wrote:
In article <4304e911.182895703@news.la.sbcglobal.net>,
elcoyote@netzero.net (Paul Anderson) wrote:
On 18 Aug 2005 09:36:17 -0700, wrote:
all the while they vote against anything that would make abortion
unessesary.
Not all of us who don't like abortion are against those actions which
would lessen the rate. I personally would love to see adoption touted
more, as I would also love to see social welfare programs made more
available to those who need them most. It is quite possible the
abortion rates would go down among older women if we made it possible
for them to raise their child in the state in which said child
deserves. Not because it is legally forbidden, but simply because those
women would be able to choose to bring their child to term.
How about programs encouraging safe sex, programs telling people that
sex is not something they need to be ashamed of and that no one cares
if 15-year-olds buy condoms.
How about mom and dad being repsonsible for their own fucking kids and
taxpayers not paying for programs to teach them to go and screw.
"all the while they vote against anything
that would make abortion unessesary."
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| User: "Chris" |
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| Title: Re: pro-life is a CROCK. |
18 Aug 2005 09:43:01 PM |
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"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:430540cb.205353609@news.la.sbcglobal.net...
On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 18:22:11 -0400, "~j i.m~"
<liberals-r-evil@liberalshateamerica.com> wrote:
In article <4304e911.182895703@news.la.sbcglobal.net>,
elcoyote@netzero.net (Paul Anderson) wrote:
On 18 Aug 2005 09:36:17 -0700, wrote:
all the while they vote against anything that would make abortion
unessesary.
Not all of us who don't like abortion are against those actions which
would lessen the rate. I personally would love to see adoption touted
more, as I would also love to see social welfare programs made more
available to those who need them most. It is quite possible the
abortion rates would go down among older women if we made it possible
for them to raise their child in the state in which said child
deserves. Not because it is legally forbidden, but simply because
those
women would be able to choose to bring their child to term.
How about programs encouraging safe sex, programs telling people that
sex is not something they need to be ashamed of and that no one cares
if 15-year-olds buy condoms.
How about mom and dad being repsonsible for their own fucking kids and
taxpayers not paying for programs to teach them to go and screw.
Great let them be responsible for their education also and cut my taxes
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| User: "Brett A. Pasternack" |
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| Title: Re: pro-life is a CROCK. |
20 Aug 2005 02:40:44 PM |
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John Dowling wrote:
On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:02:48 GMT, (Paul Anderson)
wrote:
On 18 Aug 2005 09:36:17 -0700, wrote:
all the while they vote against anything that would make abortion
unessesary.
Not all of us who don't like abortion are against those actions which
would lessen the rate. I personally would love to see adoption touted
more, as I would also love to see social welfare programs made more
available to those who need them most. It is quite possible the
abortion rates would go down among older women if we made it possible
for them to raise their child in the state in which said child
deserves. Not because it is legally forbidden, but simply because those
women would be able to choose to bring their child to term.
How about programs encouraging safe sex, programs telling people that
sex is not something they need to be ashamed of and that no one cares
if 15-year-olds buy condoms.
Frankly, sir, as the father of a 15 year old daughter, I do care if "
... 15-year-olds buy condoms" and I take no shame in that.
Would you rather she die?
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