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Science > Abortion |
| User: |
"Mike D." |
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10 Mar 2005 08:59:15 PM |
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Question |
Why would people who are 'pro choice' come here to defend abortion? What
concern could they have about whether abortion was legal or not,
particularly if they are not women of breeding age. I can understand
pro -life people coming here and speaking against abortion because they
could say they are acting in the interests of a human life who is in no
position to defend themselves. But to be proactive in favor of abortion the
only possible argument that could bemade is that they are defending the
personal sovereignty of the individual, and they would be extremists by
definition, since they are defending a persons rights even at the cost of
another person's life. If that is the case, logically the pro abortion
people should also be strongly in favor of people right to hunt, or even in
favor of people right's to purchase animals and torture them, since the
only one who counts is the person whose sovereignty is at issue( I hope
this isn't too sophisticated an argument for some of you here, judging by
your statements, I know you aren't too strong in logic and reasoning
skills). By these same arguments, pro choicers should be for total
legalization of drugs, legalization of suicide, etcetera. Are you all?
Mike.
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| User: "BOB" |
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04 Jun 2005 04:44:52 PM |
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"Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in
news:11a451f7mln7114@corp.supernews.com:
He is trying to reach you right now, and has been for a long time...the
ball remains in your court
Pretty weak attempts by your supposedly almighty god so far. Finding
gullible chumps like you to believe in it is the best it can do?
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:120320051625314177%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <EHLYd.7305$ju.842@okepread07>, Bill Gamelson
<bgamelson@cox.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:120320051551591260%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <SrKYd.7283$ju.2494@okepread07>, Bill Gamelson
<bgamelson@cox.net> wrote:
"Andrew W (Paranormal Agnostic)"
<nospaam_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
news:42336b4d$0$5186$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
"Bill Gamelson" <bgamelson@cox.net> wrote in message
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"Andrew W (Paranormal Agnostic)"
<nospaam_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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"Bill Gamelson" <bgamelson@cox.net> wrote in message
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"Andrew W (Paranormal Agnostic)"
<nospaam_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
news:423345f6$0$12026$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
So then everyone who's ever been a soldier in a war is
going to hell.
If they don't have the Lord's forgivness they will.
How can one be forgiven for something which they were
coerced into doing or did on purpose?
Because according to the Bible, all sins are forgivable
except one: Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
(Mat 12:31) Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and
blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy
against the Holy Ghost
shall not be forgiven unto men.
In that case most atheists will not go to hell because most
atheists don't blaspheme the holy spirit, because why would
someone blaspheme something which they don't even believe
exists?
You obviously don't know what blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is I
see.
Tell me then.
It is living your entire life in complete denial of God's gift of
his son Jesus. It is living your entire life believing that the
Bible is a myth and a fairy tale, and rejecting the fact that
Jesus died on the cross for our sins so we may be forgiven. That
is the only unforgivable sin.
What is it about "believing" that is a sin? If believing was so
damn important, and God really does exist. Why wouldn't he simply
ensure that we all "believed" if that is so important?
I'll answer that with a question. If you are married, would you want
your wife to stick around because she was a slave to you and has no
choice in the matter or because she wants to. Wouldn't it make you
feel better if she told you she could have any man in the world but
she wants you and only you?
That's why God gave us a choice.
Then why try to coerce us into believing? Lets use your analogy. If
you are married and you want your wife to stick around, wouldn't you
rather she did it because she decided on her own to do so rather than
staying with you because she feels "guilty" or that divorcing you is a
"sin?"
If God really wanted what you claim, he wouldn't try to convince
people not believing is a sin.
You are painting yourself in a corner with arguments like that.
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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08 Jun 2005 09:32:27 AM |
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns966B9603A41F7SD@68.6.19.6...
"Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in
news:11a451f7mln7114@corp.supernews.com:
He is trying to reach you right now, and has been for a long time...the
ball remains in your court
Pretty weak attempts by your supposedly almighty god so far. Finding
gullible chumps like you to believe in it is the best it can do?
You confuse His respect for your free-will with weakness; IF He were to make
it *obviously-absolutely-undeniable* you would no longer have free-will in
the matter. To allow you free-will He has to give you wiggle room to remain
in denial if that is your wish. (Which with most of your sort, it is their
wish. I have noticed that most atheists don't like God as they see Him
presented to be)
<snip, old stuff>
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| User: "BOB" |
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08 Jun 2005 12:33:36 PM |
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"Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in
news:11ae0bta5ioa581@corp.supernews.com:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns966B9603A41F7SD@68.6.19.6...
"Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in
news:11a451f7mln7114@corp.supernews.com:
He is trying to reach you right now, and has been for a long
time...the ball remains in your court
Pretty weak attempts by your supposedly almighty god so far. Finding
gullible chumps like you to believe in it is the best it can do?
You confuse His respect for your free-will with weakness; IF He were to
make it *obviously-absolutely-undeniable* you would no longer have
free-will in the matter. To allow you free-will He has to give you
wiggle room to remain in denial if that is your wish. (Which with most
of your sort, it is their wish. I have noticed that most atheists don't
like God as they see Him presented to be)
Baloney. You xtian morons use that tiresome old "free-will" excuse for
anything and everything you can't prove or explain logically regarding
your mythical "god". Why don't you just accept the fact that you have
been duped by religious cult brainwashing?
<snip, old stuff>
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| User: "George Peatty" |
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08 Jun 2005 05:20:27 PM |
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On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 17:33:36 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:
Baloney. You xtian morons use that tiresome old "free-will" excuse for
anything and everything you can't prove or explain logically regarding
your mythical "god". Why don't you just accept the fact that you have
been duped by religious cult brainwashing?
You're the one who has been duped .. too dense to feel the presence of God
in the beating of your own heart .. too closed-minded to see him in the
process that frames the thought that denies him .. too frightened to accept
God as he is, so you concoct a fantasy universe of your own where you don't
have to deal with him, because he isn't there ..
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| User: "BOB" |
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08 Jun 2005 06:14:01 PM |
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George Peatty <pttyg47-1230@copper.net> wrote in
news:1irea1hr2rghuiohfpbo1po40phuiu721l@4ax.com:
On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 17:33:36 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:
Baloney. You xtian morons use that tiresome old "free-will" excuse for
anything and everything you can't prove or explain logically regarding
your mythical "god". Why don't you just accept the fact that you have
been duped by religious cult brainwashing?
You're the one who has been duped .. too dense to feel the presence of
God in the beating of your own heart .. too closed-minded to see him in
the process that frames the thought that denies him .. too frightened
to accept God as he is, so you concoct a fantasy universe of your own
where you don't have to deal with him, because he isn't there ..
Guess what? It isn'there. Never was, never will be.
You can delude yourself and your fellow cult members but you cannot delude
thinking people who have the will to reason.
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| User: "Pat Winstanley" |
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08 Jun 2005 05:18:25 PM |
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In article <11ae0bta5ioa581@corp.supernews.com>, "Glenn \(Christian
Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> says...
(Which with most of your sort, it is their
wish. I have noticed that most atheists don't like God as they see Him
presented to be)
Which sensible person likes homicidal/genocidal maniacs? That's what
your particular god is presented as being.
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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11 Jun 2005 09:32:22 AM |
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"Pat Winstanley" <boredofspam2004@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d117f07d2f5d7a798c72c@news.uni-berlin.de...
In article <11ae0bta5ioa581@corp.supernews.com>, "Glenn \(Christian
Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> says...
(Which with most of your sort, it is their
wish. I have noticed that most atheists don't like God as they see Him
presented to be)
Which sensible person likes homicidal/genocidal maniacs? That's what
your particular god is presented as being.
Just as I said, it isn't truly unbelief, its hating God, for not bowing to
our human dictates.
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| User: "Pat Winstanley" |
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11 Jun 2005 03:39:55 PM |
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In article <11alsstrmeq965b@corp.supernews.com>, "Glenn \(Christian
Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> says...
"Pat Winstanley" <boredofspam2004@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d117f07d2f5d7a798c72c@news.uni-berlin.de...
In article <11ae0bta5ioa581@corp.supernews.com>, "Glenn \(Christian
Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> says...
(Which with most of your sort, it is their
wish. I have noticed that most atheists don't like God as they see Him
presented to be)
Which sensible person likes homicidal/genocidal maniacs? That's what
your particular god is presented as being.
Just as I said, it isn't truly unbelief, its hating God, for not bowing to
our human dictates.
Wrong... I said *if* a god such as yours is described as being exists, I
can't see why any sensible person would like it. Tales are told of other
gods that would be likeable did they exist.
Personally I have no belief that any god exists (or ever has existed for
that matter) not that any god doesn't/hasn't existed. I'm more of the
opinion of no gods rather than gods but have no particular belief either
way. I have no liking or disliking for any god the existence of which I
am aware. I have no reason to think that if a god (if one exists) made
itself known to me I would like or dislike or be indifferent to such.
Try again with your projections about other's beliefs, but that's all
they are - your projections, your imagination - not fact.
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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14 Jun 2005 04:23:33 PM |
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"Pat Winstanley" <boredofspam2004@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d155c7450c935198c734@news.uni-berlin.de...
In article <11alsstrmeq965b@corp.supernews.com>, "Glenn \(Christian
Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> says...
"Pat Winstanley" <boredofspam2004@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d117f07d2f5d7a798c72c@news.uni-berlin.de...
In article <11ae0bta5ioa581@corp.supernews.com>, "Glenn \(Christian
Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> says...
(Which with most of your sort, it is their
wish. I have noticed that most atheists don't like God as they see Him
presented to be)
Which sensible person likes homicidal/genocidal maniacs? That's what
your particular god is presented as being.
Just as I said, it isn't truly unbelief, its hating God, for not bowing
to
our human dictates.
Wrong... I said *if*....
Quote.
Which sensible person likes homicidal/genocidal maniacs? That's what
your particular god is presented as being.
End Quote
Where ?
...a god such as yours is described as being exists, I
can't see why any sensible person would like it.
Reading the whole text Genesis - Revelation, I do
Tales are told of other
gods that would be likeable did they exist.
Personally I have no belief that any god exists (or ever has existed for
that matter) not that any god doesn't/hasn't existed. I'm more of the
opinion of no gods rather than gods but have no particular belief either
way. I have no liking or disliking for any god the existence of which I
am aware. I have no reason to think that if a god (if one exists) made
itself known to me I would like or dislike or be indifferent to such.
Try again with your projections about other's beliefs, but that's all
they are - your projections, your imagination - not fact.
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| User: "Pat Winstanley" |
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14 Jun 2005 06:20:09 PM |
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In article <11aui426l3a3v79@corp.supernews.com>, "Glenn \(Christian
Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> says...
"Pat Winstanley" <boredofspam2004@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d155c7450c935198c734@news.uni-berlin.de...
In article <11alsstrmeq965b@corp.supernews.com>, "Glenn \(Christian
Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> says...
"Pat Winstanley" <boredofspam2004@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d117f07d2f5d7a798c72c@news.uni-berlin.de...
In article <11ae0bta5ioa581@corp.supernews.com>, "Glenn \(Christian
Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> says...
(Which with most of your sort, it is their
wish. I have noticed that most atheists don't like God as they see Him
presented to be)
Which sensible person likes homicidal/genocidal maniacs? That's what
your particular god is presented as being.
Just as I said, it isn't truly unbelief, its hating God, for not bowing
to
our human dictates.
Wrong... I said *if*....
Quote.
Which sensible person likes homicidal/genocidal maniacs? That's what
your particular god is presented as being.
End Quote
Where ?
...a god such as yours is described as being exists, I
can't see why any sensible person would like it.
You are incapable of seeing that the same sentiment can be expressed in
more than one way using different words that *mean* the same thing when
taken as a whole?
Mmmm... yes, you are incapable! ;-)
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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17 Jun 2005 09:32:12 PM |
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"Pat Winstanley" <boredofspam2004@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d197680c0e99a8698c742@news.uni-berlin.de...
In article <11aui426l3a3v79@corp.supernews.com>, "Glenn \(Christian
Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> says...
"Pat Winstanley" <boredofspam2004@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d155c7450c935198c734@news.uni-berlin.de...
In article <11alsstrmeq965b@corp.supernews.com>, "Glenn \(Christian
Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> says...
"Pat Winstanley" <boredofspam2004@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d117f07d2f5d7a798c72c@news.uni-berlin.de...
In article <11ae0bta5ioa581@corp.supernews.com>, "Glenn \(Christian
Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> says...
<snip>
Quote.
Which sensible person likes homicidal/genocidal maniacs? That's what
your particular god is presented as being.
End Quote
Where ?
...a god such as yours is described as being exists, I
can't see why any sensible person would like it.
You are incapable of seeing that the same sentiment can be expressed in
more than one way using different words that *mean* the same thing when
taken as a whole?
Nothing in your statement, taken as stated, remotely implies that you making
an 'iffy' remark, I am not gifted with an ability to read your mind. Try
saying what you mean.
Mmmm... yes, you are incapable! ;-)
I doubt that you are any better at reading minds.
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| User: "Pat Winstanley" |
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18 Jun 2005 04:07:41 AM |
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In article <11b71asj0chafde@corp.supernews.com>, "Glenn \(Christian
Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> says...
Nothing in your statement, taken as stated, remotely implies that you making
an 'iffy' remark
That's because there was nothing 'iffy' (ie. dodgy, doubtful, suspect
etc) about it! It was simply a straightforward expression of a
conditional situation based on fact. ;-))
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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21 Jun 2005 07:33:17 PM |
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"Pat Winstanley" <boredofspam2004@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d1df4b52d98552798c764@news.uni-berlin.de...
In article <11b71asj0chafde@corp.supernews.com>, "Glenn \(Christian
Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> says...
Nothing in your statement, taken as stated, remotely implies that you
making
an 'iffy' remark
That's because there was nothing 'iffy' (ie. dodgy, doubtful, suspect
etc) about it! It was simply a straightforward expression of a
conditional situation based on fact. ;-))
Backpeddling
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| User: "Pat Winstanley" |
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22 Jun 2005 01:47:58 PM |
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In article <11bhbroc7a8sqbb@corp.supernews.com>, "Glenn \(Christian
Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> says...
"Pat Winstanley" <boredofspam2004@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d1df4b52d98552798c764@news.uni-berlin.de...
In article <11b71asj0chafde@corp.supernews.com>, "Glenn \(Christian
Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> says...
Nothing in your statement, taken as stated, remotely implies that you
making
an 'iffy' remark
That's because there was nothing 'iffy' (ie. dodgy, doubtful, suspect
etc) about it! It was simply a straightforward expression of a
conditional situation based on fact. ;-))
Backpeddling
Indeed you are! ;-))
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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25 Jun 2005 09:29:07 PM |
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"Pat Winstanley" <boredofspam2004@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d23c2ba4e62cfb898c772@news.uni-berlin.de...
In article <11bhbroc7a8sqbb@corp.supernews.com>, "Glenn \(Christian
Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> says...
"Pat Winstanley" <boredofspam2004@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d1df4b52d98552798c764@news.uni-berlin.de...
In article <11b71asj0chafde@corp.supernews.com>, "Glenn \(Christian
Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> says...
Nothing in your statement, taken as stated, remotely implies that you
making
an 'iffy' remark
That's because there was nothing 'iffy' (ie. dodgy, doubtful, suspect
etc) about it! It was simply a straightforward expression of a
conditional situation based on fact. ;-))
Backpeddling
Indeed you are! ;-))
Want the posts requoted in which you claimed to have made an "if" statement
??
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| User: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Miquel_=C0ngel_Manau?=" |
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04 Jul 2005 04:12:32 PM |
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Glenn (Christian Mystic) escribió:
"Pat Winstanley" <boredofspam2004@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d23c2ba4e62cfb898c772@news.uni-berlin.de...
In article <11bhbroc7a8sqbb@corp.supernews.com>, "Glenn \(Christian
Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> says...
"Pat Winstanley" <boredofspam2004@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d1df4b52d98552798c764@news.uni-berlin.de...
In article <11b71asj0chafde@corp.supernews.com>, "Glenn \(Christian
Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> says...
Nothing in your statement, taken as stated, remotely implies that you
making
an 'iffy' remark
That's because there was nothing 'iffy' (ie. dodgy, doubtful, suspect
etc) about it! It was simply a straightforward expression of a
conditional situation based on fact. ;-))
Backpeddling
Indeed you are! ;-))
Want the posts requoted in which you claimed to have made an "if" statement
??
i'm not understand
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| User: "MNP" |
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12 Jun 2005 06:52:57 PM |
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Pat Winstanley wrote:
In article <11alsstrmeq965b@corp.supernews.com>, "Glenn \(Christian
Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> says...
"Pat Winstanley" <boredofspam2004@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d117f07d2f5d7a798c72c@news.uni-berlin.de...
In article <11ae0bta5ioa581@corp.supernews.com>, "Glenn \(Christian
Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> says...
(Which with most of your sort, it is their
wish. I have noticed that most atheists don't like God as they see Him
presented to be)
Which sensible person likes homicidal/genocidal maniacs? That's what
your particular god is presented as being.
Just as I said, it isn't truly unbelief, its hating God, for not bowing to
our human dictates.
Wrong... I said *if* a god such as yours is described as being exists, I
can't see why any sensible person would like it. Tales are told of other
gods that would be likeable did they exist.
Personally I have no belief that any god exists (or ever has existed for
that matter) not that any god doesn't/hasn't existed. I'm more of the
opinion of no gods rather than gods but have no particular belief either
way. I have no liking or disliking for any god the existence of which I
am aware. I have no reason to think that if a god (if one exists) made
itself known to me I would like or dislike or be indifferent to such.
Try again with your projections about other's beliefs, but that's all
they are - your projections, your imagination - not fact.
You don't know what the word "exists" means. As you have admitted you
think that words on a page defining you as a human being effect your own
existence, as if your existence has nothing to do with your own bodily
processes. You may as well believe in the tooth fairy, you stupified
pro-choice bore.
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| User: "NMN" |
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08 Jun 2005 11:35:45 PM |
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Pat Winstanley wrote:
In article <11ae0bta5ioa581@corp.supernews.com>, "Glenn \(Christian
Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> says...
(Which with most of your sort, it is their
wish. I have noticed that most atheists don't like God as they see Him
presented to be)
Which sensible person likes homicidal/genocidal maniacs? That's what
your particular god is presented as being.
The nutter you're describing is yourself since that's what *you*
believe, not what any Christians do.
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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02 Jun 2005 11:27:25 PM |
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Well done !
"Bill Gamelson" <bgamelson@cox.net> wrote in message
news:EHLYd.7305$ju.842@okepread07...
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:120320051551591260%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <SrKYd.7283$ju.2494@okepread07>, Bill Gamelson
<bgamelson@cox.net> wrote:
"Andrew W (Paranormal Agnostic)" <nospaam_ajwerner@optushome.com.au>
wrote
in message news:42336b4d$0$5186$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
"Bill Gamelson" <bgamelson@cox.net> wrote in message
news:5PJYd.7275$ju.1097@okepread07...
"Andrew W (Paranormal Agnostic)" <nospaam_ajwerner@optushome.com.au>
wrote in message
news:42335eb9$0$22223$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
"Bill Gamelson" <bgamelson@cox.net> wrote in message
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"Andrew W (Paranormal Agnostic)"
<nospaam_ajwerner@optushome.com.au>
wrote in message
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So then everyone who's ever been a soldier in a war is going to
hell.
If they don't have the Lord's forgivness they will.
How can one be forgiven for something which they were coerced into
doing or did on purpose?
Because according to the Bible, all sins are forgivable except one:
Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
(Mat 12:31) Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and
blasphemy
shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy
Ghost
shall not be forgiven unto men.
In that case most atheists will not go to hell because most atheists
don't blaspheme the holy spirit, because why would someone blaspheme
something which they don't even believe exists?
You obviously don't know what blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is I see.
Tell me then.
It is living your entire life in complete denial of God's gift of his
son
Jesus. It is living your entire life believing that the Bible is a myth
and
a fairy tale, and rejecting the fact that Jesus died on the cross for
our
sins so we may be forgiven. That is the only unforgivable sin.
What is it about "believing" that is a sin? If believing was so damn
important, and God really does exist. Why wouldn't he simply ensure
that we all "believed" if that is so important?
I'll answer that with a question. If you are married, would you want your
wife to stick around because she was a slave to you and has no choice in
the matter or because she wants to. Wouldn't it make you feel better if
she told you she could have any man in the world but she wants you and
only you?
That's why God gave us a choice.
--
Christian music and sermons on streaming audio:
www.globalnetministries.com
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"Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in
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Well done !
so says a newbie top poster
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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25 Jun 2005 09:31:32 PM |
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"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in
news:119vmemecmvjuca@corp.supernews.com:
Well done !
so says a newbie top poster
Yeah decades of being a 'newbie'
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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26 Jun 2005 06:02:17 AM |
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"Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in
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"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in
news:119vmemecmvjuca@corp.supernews.com:
Well done !
so says a newbie top poster
Yeah decades of being a 'newbie'
some people, like you, are always newbies.
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| User: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Miquel_=C0ngel_Manau?=" |
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04 Jul 2005 04:14:16 PM |
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Glenn (Christian Mystic) escribió:
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in
news:119vmemecmvjuca@corp.supernews.com:
Well done !
so says a newbie top poster
Yeah decades of being a 'newbie'
ok
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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23 May 2005 01:32:54 PM |
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Freewill
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:120320051551591260%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <SrKYd.7283$ju.2494@okepread07>, Bill Gamelson
<bgamelson@cox.net> wrote:
"Andrew W (Paranormal Agnostic)" <nospaam_ajwerner@optushome.com.au>
wrote
in message news:42336b4d$0$5186$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
"Bill Gamelson" <bgamelson@cox.net> wrote in message
news:5PJYd.7275$ju.1097@okepread07...
"Andrew W (Paranormal Agnostic)" <nospaam_ajwerner@optushome.com.au>
wrote in message
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"Bill Gamelson" <bgamelson@cox.net> wrote in message
news:VPHYd.7257$ju.5181@okepread07...
"Andrew W (Paranormal Agnostic)" <nospaam_ajwerner@optushome.com.au>
wrote in message
news:423345f6$0$12026$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
So then everyone who's ever been a soldier in a war is going to
hell.
If they don't have the Lord's forgivness they will.
How can one be forgiven for something which they were coerced into
doing or did on purpose?
Because according to the Bible, all sins are forgivable except one:
Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
(Mat 12:31) Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and
blasphemy
shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost
shall not be forgiven unto men.
In that case most atheists will not go to hell because most atheists
don't blaspheme the holy spirit, because why would someone blaspheme
something which they don't even believe exists?
You obviously don't know what blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is I see.
Tell me then.
It is living your entire life in complete denial of God's gift of his son
Jesus. It is living your entire life believing that the Bible is a myth
and
a fairy tale, and rejecting the fact that Jesus died on the cross for our
sins so we may be forgiven. That is the only unforgivable sin.
What is it about "believing" that is a sin? If believing was so damn
important, and God really does exist. Why wouldn't he simply ensure
that we all "believed" if that is so important?
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| User: "BOB" |
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23 May 2005 01:31:19 PM |
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"Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in
news:11947s0llkt5t89@corp.supernews.com:
Freewill
BS
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:120320051551591260%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <SrKYd.7283$ju.2494@okepread07>, Bill Gamelson
<bgamelson@cox.net> wrote:
"Andrew W (Paranormal Agnostic)" <nospaam_ajwerner@optushome.com.au>
wrote in message
news:42336b4d$0$5186$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
"Bill Gamelson" <bgamelson@cox.net> wrote in message
news:5PJYd.7275$ju.1097@okepread07...
"Andrew W (Paranormal Agnostic)"
<nospaam_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
news:42335eb9$0$22223$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
"Bill Gamelson" <bgamelson@cox.net> wrote in message
news:VPHYd.7257$ju.5181@okepread07...
"Andrew W (Paranormal Agnostic)"
<nospaam_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
news:423345f6$0$12026$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
So then everyone who's ever been a soldier in a war is going
to hell.
If they don't have the Lord's forgivness they will.
How can one be forgiven for something which they were coerced
into doing or did on purpose?
Because according to the Bible, all sins are forgivable except
one: Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
(Mat 12:31) Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and
blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against
the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
In that case most atheists will not go to hell because most
atheists don't blaspheme the holy spirit, because why would
someone blaspheme something which they don't even believe exists?
You obviously don't know what blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is I
see.
Tell me then.
It is living your entire life in complete denial of God's gift of his
son Jesus. It is living your entire life believing that the Bible is
a myth and a fairy tale, and rejecting the fact that Jesus died on
the cross for our sins so we may be forgiven. That is the only
unforgivable sin.
What is it about "believing" that is a sin? If believing was so damn
important, and God really does exist. Why wouldn't he simply ensure
that we all "believed" if that is so important?
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| User: "Attila" |
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12 Mar 2005 06:43:23 PM |
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On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 16:55:40 -0600, "Bill Gamelson"
<bgamelson@cox.net> in alt.abortion with message-id
<SrKYd.7283$ju.2494@okepread07> wrote:
It is living your entire life in complete denial of God's gift of his son
Jesus.
CAn you validate any part of that?
It is living your entire life believing that the Bible is a myth and
a fairy tale,
Prove is contains any ruth.
and rejecting the fact that Jesus
Prove such a person ever existed.
died on the cross
Prove that ever happened.
for our
sins so we may be forgiven. That is the only unforgivable sin.
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| User: "Jim Ledford" |
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13 Mar 2005 03:38:02 AM |
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Attila wrote:
Bill Gamelson wrote:
It is living your entire life in complete denial of God's gift of his son
Jesus.
CAn you validate any part of that?
[....]
Prove is contains any ruth.
[....]
Prove such a person ever existed.
[....]
Prove that ever happened.
[....]
Attila when you stand and then bow down before
My Lord God Almighty, just before He sends you
to where He is not, He'll make sure you understand
what you are allowed to see. then, you'll have
your proof to examine for an eternity.
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| User: "Attila" |
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13 Mar 2005 05:26:20 AM |
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On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:38:02 -0500, Jim Ledford <jimled@bellsouth.net>
in alt.abortion with message-id <423409FA.B96F443@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
Attila wrote:
Bill Gamelson wrote:
It is living your entire life in complete denial of God's gift of his son
Jesus.
CAn you validate any part of that?
[....]
Prove is contains any ruth.
[....]
Prove such a person ever existed.
[....]
Prove that ever happened.
[....]
Attila when you stand and then bow down before
My Lord God Almighty, just before He sends you
to where He is not, He'll make sure you understand
what you are allowed to see. then, you'll have
your proof to examine for an eternity.
First prove there is any validity to what you say and then I may worry
about it. Until then consider yourself ignored.
I am really amused by first avoidance and then threats. A familiar
pattern.
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| User: "Jim Ledford" |
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13 Mar 2005 05:38:30 AM |
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Attila wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
Attila wrote:
Bill Gamelson wrote:
It is living your entire life in complete denial of God's gift of his son
Jesus.
CAn you validate any part of that?
[....]
Prove is contains any ruth.
[....]
Prove such a person ever existed.
[....]
Prove that ever happened.
[....]
Attila when you stand and then bow down before
My Lord God Almighty, just before He sends you
to where He is not, He'll make sure you understand
what you are allowed to see. then, you'll have
your proof to examine for an eternity.
First prove there is any validity to what you say and then I may worry
about it.
your consistent use of the word 'prove' is a
sad denial where the consequence is yours alone.
Until then consider yourself ignored.
yea.
I am really amused by first avoidance and then threats. A familiar
pattern.
http://www.pgm.org/
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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13 Mar 2005 09:00:35 AM |
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Jim Ledford <jimled@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Attila wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
Attila wrote:
Bill Gamelson wrote:
It is living your entire life in complete denial of God's gift of his son
Jesus.
CAn you validate any part of that?
[....]
Prove is contains any ruth.
[....]
Prove such a person ever existed.
[....]
Prove that ever happened.
[....]
Attila when you stand and then bow down before
My Lord God Almighty, just before He sends you
to where He is not, He'll make sure you understand
what you are allowed to see. then, you'll have
your proof to examine for an eternity.
First prove there is any validity to what you say and then I may worry
about it.
your consistent use of the word 'prove' is a
sad denial where the consequence is yours alone.
LOL!
Lessee, you insist that your fairy tale is reality even though you
cannot provide any evidence for its reality, and then you patronize
people by treating everyone who questions your claims and being
irrational.
You're a kook.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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