Science > Abortion > Questioning the decision to block partial birth abortion
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"Osprey" |
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01 Jun 2004 09:11:32 PM |
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Questioning the decision to block partial birth abortion |
Over the recent months, we have heard all sorts of arguments concerning the
ban of partial birth abortions.
Now we can play with terms all we want, but the bottom line is that these
are late term abortions, the fetus is developed, and many people feel they
are wrong.
Now previously the argument was because the language didn't include an
exception for a woman to receive these types of abortions when her life is
in danger.
It appears that is changing now.
Now, they are saying that the ban infringes on a woman's right to choose.
So we are right back were we were several months ago, when the argument was
about women "choosing" to abort at these late stages.
There are some in here, who claim to be pro-choice that do agree that a
woman shouldn't choose to abort at these later stages. If she wants to
abort, let her have that choice early on before the fetus really develops.
Although I oppose the choice of abortion, I can accept that exception though
in regards to late term abortion. Only if the woman's life is truly in
danger and there is absolutely no way of saving both her and the unborn
child.
Then there are some who say a woman should be able to choose to abort at any
time.
So what they are saying is that if a woman decides in her 8th month she
doesn't want to be a mother that she should be able to decide to abort.
Her life isn't in danger, she just wants to abort, and there are some who
feel this is o.k..
Six months, seven months, even eight months, the fetus is in advanced stages
of development. In most cases the fetus is viable at this point.
So earlier when they were pretending that it was just about a woman's life,
and that was their justification for keeping the late term abortions legal,
they were lying. It wasn't about that at all, they just want to make sure a
woman can abort and they don't care WHAT stage of development the fetus is
in.
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| User: "Shawn Hearn" |
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| Title: Re: Questioning the decision to block partial birth abortion |
02 Jun 2004 08:38:42 PM |
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In article <GP-dnQpOhL-YqiDdRVn-sA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Over the recent months, we have heard all sorts of arguments concerning the
ban of partial birth abortions.
Now we can play with terms all we want, but the bottom line is that these
are late term abortions, the fetus is developed, and many people feel they
are wrong.
Now previously the argument was because the language didn't include an
exception for a woman to receive these types of abortions when her life is
in danger.
It appears that is changing now.
Now, they are saying that the ban infringes on a woman's right to choose.
Actually, those of us who are against involuntary servitude have been
saying that all along. Seems the Constitution agrees with us.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Questioning the decision to block partial birth abortion |
02 Jun 2004 09:28:53 PM |
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"Shawn Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-FC045B.21384202062004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <GP-dnQpOhL-YqiDdRVn-sA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Over the recent months, we have heard all sorts of arguments concerning
the
ban of partial birth abortions.
Now we can play with terms all we want, but the bottom line is that
these
are late term abortions, the fetus is developed, and many people feel
they
are wrong.
Now previously the argument was because the language didn't include an
exception for a woman to receive these types of abortions when her life
is
in danger.
It appears that is changing now.
Now, they are saying that the ban infringes on a woman's right to
choose.
Actually, those of us who are against involuntary servitude have been
saying that all along. Seems the Constitution agrees with us.
But yet men are forced to involuntary servitude
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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| Title: Re: Questioning the decision to block partial birth abortion |
03 Jun 2004 09:35:08 PM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:rLmdnbeS3Oo6ESPd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
"Shawn Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-FC045B.21384202062004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <GP-dnQpOhL-YqiDdRVn-sA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Over the recent months, we have heard all sorts of arguments
concerning
the
ban of partial birth abortions.
Now we can play with terms all we want, but the bottom line is that
these
are late term abortions, the fetus is developed, and many people feel
they
are wrong.
Now previously the argument was because the language didn't include an
exception for a woman to receive these types of abortions when her
life
is
in danger.
It appears that is changing now.
Now, they are saying that the ban infringes on a woman's right to
choose.
Actually, those of us who are against involuntary servitude have been
saying that all along. Seems the Constitution agrees with us.
But yet men are forced to involuntary servitude
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Men are free to impregnate and RUN, and many of them do. Never heard of
deadbeat dads?
--
FP....
Do they also warn women of the dangers of term pregnancy and
birth?.......like:
http://www.indiaparenting.com/pregnancy/data/preg16_00.shtml
http://www.imnotsorry.net/
http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html
The risk of death associated with childbirth is about 11 times as high as
that associated with abortion.27
http://www.cdc.gov/epo/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00054602.htm
http://www.afterabortion.org/news/deaths_smj.html
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| User: "mac kinney" |
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| Title: Re: Questioning the decision to block partial birth abortion |
03 Jun 2004 10:11:20 PM |
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"Flower Power" <FreeTheWomen@this.NG> wrote in message
news:UqqdncKb6IR_QiLdRVn-tA@heartoftn.net...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:rLmdnbeS3Oo6ESPd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
"Shawn Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-FC045B.21384202062004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <GP-dnQpOhL-YqiDdRVn-sA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Over the recent months, we have heard all sorts of arguments
concerning
the
ban of partial birth abortions.
Now we can play with terms all we want, but the bottom line is that
these
are late term abortions, the fetus is developed, and many people
feel
they
are wrong.
Now previously the argument was because the language didn't include
an
exception for a woman to receive these types of abortions when her
life
is
in danger.
It appears that is changing now.
Now, they are saying that the ban infringes on a woman's right to
choose.
Actually, those of us who are against involuntary servitude have been
saying that all along. Seems the Constitution agrees with us.
But yet men are forced to involuntary servitude
==============================
Men are free to impregnate and RUN, and many of them do. Never heard of
deadbeat dads?
--
FP....
Do they also warn women of the dangers of term pregnancy and
birth?.......like:
http://www.indiaparenting.com/pregnancy/data/preg16_00.shtml
http://www.imnotsorry.net/
http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html
The risk of death associated with childbirth is about 11 times as high as
that associated with abortion.27
http://www.cdc.gov/epo/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00054602.htm
http://www.afterabortion.org/news/deaths_smj.html
====================================================
test
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| User: "Shawn Hearn" |
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| Title: Re: Questioning the decision to block partial birth abortion |
04 Jun 2004 05:44:59 PM |
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In article <rLmdnbeS3Oo6ESPd4p2dnA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Shawn Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-FC045B.21384202062004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <GP-dnQpOhL-YqiDdRVn-sA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Over the recent months, we have heard all sorts of arguments concerning
the
ban of partial birth abortions.
Now we can play with terms all we want, but the bottom line is that
these
are late term abortions, the fetus is developed, and many people feel
they
are wrong.
Now previously the argument was because the language didn't include an
exception for a woman to receive these types of abortions when her life
is
in danger.
It appears that is changing now.
Now, they are saying that the ban infringes on a woman's right to
choose.
Actually, those of us who are against involuntary servitude have been
saying that all along. Seems the Constitution agrees with us.
But yet men are forced to involuntary servitude
How so?
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| User: "Osprey" |
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04 Jun 2004 07:44:22 PM |
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"Shawn Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-03A924.18445904062004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <rLmdnbeS3Oo6ESPd4p2dnA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Shawn Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-FC045B.21384202062004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <GP-dnQpOhL-YqiDdRVn-sA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Over the recent months, we have heard all sorts of arguments
concerning
the
ban of partial birth abortions.
Now we can play with terms all we want, but the bottom line is that
these
are late term abortions, the fetus is developed, and many people
feel
they
are wrong.
Now previously the argument was because the language didn't include
an
exception for a woman to receive these types of abortions when her
life
is
in danger.
It appears that is changing now.
Now, they are saying that the ban infringes on a woman's right to
choose.
Actually, those of us who are against involuntary servitude have been
saying that all along. Seems the Constitution agrees with us.
But yet men are forced to involuntary servitude
How so?
Easy
Lets use the following examples that women use for reasons to abort
a) They are not financially ready
b) They don't want to be a mother
c) They have not accomplished all they want yet, and they want to wait. It
is too late, she is pregnant so she aborts to get her second chance.
Now, lets say the man
a) Is not financially ready
b) doesn't want to be a father
c) has not accomplised all he wants yet.
She gets a second chance. All she has to do is just abort...done with.
He has no choice in the matter. If she decides to keep the child and take
him to court for financial support he is required by law to pay up or go to
jail.
Pay or go to jail
She gets a way out
He is forced
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Questioning the decision to block partial birth abortion |
05 Jun 2004 10:03:12 AM |
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In article <QOOdnQNsEdmnilzdRVn-tA@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Shawn Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-03A924.18445904062004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <rLmdnbeS3Oo6ESPd4p2dnA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Shawn Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-FC045B.21384202062004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <GP-dnQpOhL-YqiDdRVn-sA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Over the recent months, we have heard all sorts of arguments
concerning
the
ban of partial birth abortions.
Now we can play with terms all we want, but the bottom line is that
these
are late term abortions, the fetus is developed, and many people
feel
they
are wrong.
Now previously the argument was because the language didn't include
an
exception for a woman to receive these types of abortions when her
life
is
in danger.
It appears that is changing now.
Now, they are saying that the ban infringes on a woman's right to
choose.
Actually, those of us who are against involuntary servitude have been
saying that all along. Seems the Constitution agrees with us.
But yet men are forced to involuntary servitude
How so?
Easy
Lets use the following examples that women use for reasons to abort
a) They are not financially ready
b) They don't want to be a mother
c) They have not accomplished all they want yet, and they want to wait. It
is too late, she is pregnant so she aborts to get her second chance.
Now, lets say the man
a) Is not financially ready
b) doesn't want to be a father
c) has not accomplised all he wants yet.
She gets a second chance. All she has to do is just abort...done with.
He has no choice in the matter. If she decides to keep the child and take
him to court for financial support he is required by law to pay up or go to
jail.
Pay or go to jail
She gets a way out
He is forced
Heishman is angry because he has been forced into fatherhood.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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01 Jun 2004 11:19:29 PM |
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Over the recent months, we have heard all sorts of arguments concerning the
ban of partial birth abortions.
Now we can play with terms all we want, but the bottom line is that these
are late term abortions,
Heishman is lying, as usual.
IDE abortions are NOT late term. They cannot be done late term. They
are done no later than the beginning of the 3rd trimester.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Questioning the decision to block partial birth abortion |
01 Jun 2004 11:29:51 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c9jkgg$aka$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Over the recent months, we have heard all sorts of arguments concerning
the
ban of partial birth abortions.
Now we can play with terms all we want, but the bottom line is that these
are late term abortions,
Heishman is lying, as usual.
Fischer is running from the issue, as usual
IDE abortions are NOT late term. They cannot be done late term. They
are done no later than the beginning of the 3rd trimester.
That is late term idiot
The fetus is developed. The fetus is pulled out partially, the skull is
crushed.
You support a woman to choose that at any time.
And like many others, you lie when you tried to hide under the argument that
it was to save a woman's life.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Questioning the decision to block partial birth abortion |
01 Jun 2004 11:32:28 PM |
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In article <nqGdnVg5S5TIyiDdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c9jkgg$aka$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Over the recent months, we have heard all sorts of arguments concerning
the
ban of partial birth abortions.
Now we can play with terms all we want, but the bottom line is that these
are late term abortions,
Heishman is lying, as usual.
Fischer is running from the issue, as usual
Could anyone run faster than you?
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| User: "Elmo" |
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02 Jun 2004 04:21:54 PM |
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In article <nqGdnVg5S5TIyiDdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c9jkgg$aka$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Over the recent months, we have heard all sorts of arguments concerning
the
ban of partial birth abortions.
Now we can play with terms all we want, but the bottom line is that these
are late term abortions,
Heishman is lying, as usual.
Fischer is running from the issue, as usual
Fisher, Barnes, etc., pound you into the ground and you know it.
IDE abortions are NOT late term. They cannot be done late term. They
are done no later than the beginning of the 3rd trimester.
That is late term idiot
Haaaaaahhaaaaa! Late term means late third term.
The fetus is developed. The fetus is pulled out partially, the skull is
crushed.
Under a doctors supervision, not under yours.
You support a woman to choose that at any time.
And like many others, you lie when you tried to hide under the argument that
it was to save a woman's life.
GUARD.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Questioning the decision to block partial birth abortion |
02 Jun 2004 09:28:06 PM |
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"Elmo" <anto@sales.com> wrote in message
news:020620041421548779%anto@sales.com...
In article <nqGdnVg5S5TIyiDdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c9jkgg$aka$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Over the recent months, we have heard all sorts of arguments
concerning
the
ban of partial birth abortions.
Now we can play with terms all we want, but the bottom line is that
these
are late term abortions,
Heishman is lying, as usual.
Fischer is running from the issue, as usual
Fisher, Barnes, etc., pound you into the ground and you know it.
IDE abortions are NOT late term. They cannot be done late term. They
are done no later than the beginning of the 3rd trimester.
That is late term idiot
Haaaaaahhaaaaa! Late term means late third term.
The fetus is developed. The fetus is pulled out partially, the skull is
crushed.
Under a doctors supervision, not under yours.
You support a woman to choose that at any time.
And like many others, you lie when you tried to hide under the argument
that
it was to save a woman's life.
GUARD.
Ooooh, did you think of that all by yourself???
LOL
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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02 Jun 2004 10:23:33 PM |
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In article <020620041421548779%anto@sales.com>, Elmo <anto@sales.com>
wrote:
In article <nqGdnVg5S5TIyiDdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c9jkgg$aka$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Over the recent months, we have heard all sorts of arguments concerning
the
ban of partial birth abortions.
Now we can play with terms all we want, but the bottom line is that these
are late term abortions,
Heishman is lying, as usual.
Fischer is running from the issue, as usual
Fisher, Barnes, etc., pound you into the ground and you know it.
Which is why he is so afraid.
IDE abortions are NOT late term. They cannot be done late term. They
are done no later than the beginning of the 3rd trimester.
That is late term idiot
Haaaaaahhaaaaa! Late term means late third term.
He's a guard - don't try to educate him.
The fetus is developed. The fetus is pulled out partially, the skull is
crushed.
Under a doctors supervision, not under yours.
You support a woman to choose that at any time.
And like many others, you lie when you tried to hide under the argument that
it was to save a woman's life.
GUARD.
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Questioning the decision to block partial birth abortion |
02 Jun 2004 06:18:18 AM |
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On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 00:29:51 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id <nqGdnVg5S5TIyiDdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c9jkgg$aka$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Over the recent months, we have heard all sorts of arguments concerning
the
ban of partial birth abortions.
Now we can play with terms all we want, but the bottom line is that these
are late term abortions,
Heishman is lying, as usual.
Fischer is running from the issue, as usual
IDE abortions are NOT late term. They cannot be done late term. They
are done no later than the beginning of the 3rd trimester.
That is late term idiot
The fetus is developed. The fetus is pulled out partially, the skull is
crushed.
You support a woman to choose that at any time.
I believe the evidence (not the screaming propaganda) indicates this
is a medically required procedure and not one based on a choice maid
by the woman involved.
But you don't care do you?
And like many others, you lie when you tried to hide under the argument that
it was to save a woman's life.
The facts seem to contradict you.
Still a proud occupant of Fishbreath's kill file list.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Questioning the decision to block partial birth abortion |
02 Jun 2004 02:58:57 AM |
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Over the recent months, we have heard all sorts of arguments concerning
the
ban of partial birth abortions.
Now we can play with terms all we want, but the bottom line is that these
are late term abortions,
Heishman is lying, as usual.
Fischer is running from the issue, as usual
So Heishman writes outright lies and, when challenged, whines that
everybody should just ignore the fact that he's a lying *****.
IDE abortions are NOT late term. They cannot be done late term. They
are done no later than the beginning of the 3rd trimester.
That is late term idiot
Wrong, you stupid *****. It's midterm. 60% of the way through a
pregnancy is not "late" by any honest definition of the word.
The fetus is developed.
That's another lie, *****. Any fetus born that early would die
without extraordinary medical care, and a large number would die even
with extraordinary medical care.
You support a woman to choose that at any time.
You are an ***** whose only defense is to show everybody what an
immoral, lying, pathetic excuse of a loser you are.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Questioning the decision to block partial birth abortion |
02 Jun 2004 09:28:37 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c9k1c1$p95$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Over the recent months, we have heard all sorts of arguments
concerning
the
ban of partial birth abortions.
Now we can play with terms all we want, but the bottom line is that
these
are late term abortions,
Heishman is lying, as usual.
Fischer is running from the issue, as usual
So Heishman writes outright lies and, when challenged, whines that
everybody should just ignore the fact that he's a lying *****.
IDE abortions are NOT late term. They cannot be done late term. They
are done no later than the beginning of the 3rd trimester.
That is late term idiot
Wrong, you stupid *****. It's midterm. 60% of the way through a
pregnancy is not "late" by any honest definition of the word.
It is late term idiot, the fetus development is too far along.
The fetus is developed.
That's another lie, *****. Any fetus born that early would die
without extraordinary medical care, and a large number would die even
with extraordinary medical care.
You support a woman to choose that at any time.
You are an ***** whose only defense is to show everybody what an
immoral, lying, pathetic excuse of a loser you are.
You do support a woman choosing this procedure at any time.
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| User: "pr0r3p" |
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| Title: Re: Questioning the decision to block partial birth abortion |
02 Jun 2004 12:22:05 PM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message news:<qbadnaHIu5krfiDd4p2dnA@comcast.com>...
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c9k1c1$p95$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Over the recent months, we have heard all sorts of arguments
concerning
the
ban of partial birth abortions.
Now we can play with terms all we want, but the bottom line is that
these
are late term abortions,
Heishman is lying, as usual.
Fischer is running from the issue, as usual
So Heishman writes outright lies and, when challenged, whines that
everybody should just ignore the fact that he's a lying *****.
IDE abortions are NOT late term. They cannot be done late term. They
are done no later than the beginning of the 3rd trimester.
That is late term idiot
Wrong, you stupid *****. It's midterm. 60% of the way through a
pregnancy is not "late" by any honest definition of the word.
It is late term idiot, the fetus development is too far along.
Like Ray say, it's not late term by any HONEST definition of the word.
Why is it no surprise that the newsgroups most prolific liar comes
along and says it is late term.
The fetus is developed.
That's another lie, *****. Any fetus born that early would die
without extraordinary medical care, and a large number would die even
with extraordinary medical care.
You support a woman to choose that at any time.
You are an ***** whose only defense is to show everybody what an
immoral, lying, pathetic excuse of a loser you are.
You do support a woman choosing this procedure at any time.
More proof of Asspry's dishonesty...
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Questioning the decision to block partial birth abortion |
02 Jun 2004 09:22:30 PM |
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Over the recent months, we have heard all sorts of arguments
concerning
the
ban of partial birth abortions.
Now we can play with terms all we want, but the bottom line is that
these
are late term abortions,
Heishman is lying, as usual.
Fischer is running from the issue, as usual
So Heishman writes outright lies and, when challenged, whines that
everybody should just ignore the fact that he's a lying *****.
IDE abortions are NOT late term. They cannot be done late term. They
are done no later than the beginning of the 3rd trimester.
That is late term idiot
Wrong, you stupid *****. It's midterm. 60% of the way through a
pregnancy is not "late" by any honest definition of the word.
It is late term idiot,
Stop lying, *****.
The fetus is developed.
That's another lie, *****. Any fetus born that early would die
without extraordinary medical care, and a large number would die even
with extraordinary medical care.
You support a woman to choose that at any time.
You are an ***** whose only defense is to show everybody what an
immoral, lying, pathetic excuse of a loser you are.
You do support a woman choosing this procedure at any time.
Prove it, *****.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Questioning the decision to block partial birth abortion |
02 Jun 2004 09:31:22 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c9m215$60i$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Over the recent months, we have heard all sorts of arguments
concerning
the
ban of partial birth abortions.
Now we can play with terms all we want, but the bottom line is that
these
are late term abortions,
Heishman is lying, as usual.
Fischer is running from the issue, as usual
So Heishman writes outright lies and, when challenged, whines that
everybody should just ignore the fact that he's a lying *****.
IDE abortions are NOT late term. They cannot be done late term.
They
are done no later than the beginning of the 3rd trimester.
That is late term idiot
Wrong, you stupid *****. It's midterm. 60% of the way through a
pregnancy is not "late" by any honest definition of the word.
It is late term idiot,
Stop lying, *****.
I haven't lied
The fetus is developed.
That's another lie, *****. Any fetus born that early would die
without extraordinary medical care, and a large number would die even
with extraordinary medical care.
You support a woman to choose that at any time.
You are an ***** whose only defense is to show everybody what an
immoral, lying, pathetic excuse of a loser you are.
You do support a woman choosing this procedure at any time.
Prove it, *****.
Deny it idiot
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Questioning the decision to block partial birth abortion |
02 Jun 2004 10:05:34 PM |
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
The fetus is developed.
That's another lie, *****. Any fetus born that early would die
without extraordinary medical care, and a large number would die even
with extraordinary medical care.
You support a woman to choose that at any time.
You are an ***** whose only defense is to show everybody what an
immoral, lying, pathetic excuse of a loser you are.
You do support a woman choosing this procedure at any time.
Prove it, *****.
Deny it idiot
I didn't think you'd be able to. You're just a sleazy ***** who
lies about people.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Questioning the decision to block partial birth abortion |
02 Jun 2004 10:17:22 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c9m4hu$a7v$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
The fetus is developed.
That's another lie, *****. Any fetus born that early would die
without extraordinary medical care, and a large number would die
even
with extraordinary medical care.
You support a woman to choose that at any time.
You are an ***** whose only defense is to show everybody what an
immoral, lying, pathetic excuse of a loser you are.
You do support a woman choosing this procedure at any time.
Prove it, *****.
Deny it idiot
I didn't think you'd be able to.
I just did, you never denied it.
Go ahead, deny it Ray. That would be the only thing that could prove me
wrong.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Questioning the decision to block partial birth abortion |
02 Jun 2004 11:22:36 PM |
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
The fetus is developed.
That's another lie, *****. Any fetus born that early would die
without extraordinary medical care, and a large number would die
even
with extraordinary medical care.
You support a woman to choose that at any time.
You are an ***** whose only defense is to show everybody what an
immoral, lying, pathetic excuse of a loser you are.
You do support a woman choosing this procedure at any time.
Prove it, *****.
Deny it idiot
I didn't think you'd be able to.
I just did,
Not only are you a liar, you're a moron too stupid to realize
how badly you embarrass yourself. You lie about people constantly
and then don't even have the brains to stop digging yourself in
deeper when you get caught.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Questioning the decision to block partial birth abortion |
02 Jun 2004 11:38:00 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c9m92c$iqd$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
The fetus is developed.
That's another lie, *****. Any fetus born that early would die
without extraordinary medical care, and a large number would die
even
with extraordinary medical care.
You support a woman to choose that at any time.
You are an ***** whose only defense is to show everybody what
an
immoral, lying, pathetic excuse of a loser you are.
You do support a woman choosing this procedure at any time.
Prove it, *****.
Deny it idiot
I didn't think you'd be able to.
I just did,
Not only are you a liar, you're a moron too stupid to realize
how badly you embarrass yourself. You lie about people constantly
and then don't even have the brains to stop digging yourself in
deeper when you get caught.
Get caught?
Go ahead, deny that you support a woman choosing this procedure at any time
then.
You have yet to deny it.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Questioning the decision to block partial birth abortion |
04 Jun 2004 12:52:40 AM |
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c9m92c$iqd$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
The fetus is developed.
That's another lie, *****. Any fetus born that early would die
without extraordinary medical care, and a large number would die
even
with extraordinary medical care.
You support a woman to choose that at any time.
You are an ***** whose only defense is to show everybody what
an
immoral, lying, pathetic excuse of a loser you are.
You do support a woman choosing this procedure at any time.
Prove it, *****.
Deny it idiot
I didn't think you'd be able to.
I just did,
Not only are you a liar, you're a moron too stupid to realize
how badly you embarrass yourself. You lie about people constantly
and then don't even have the brains to stop digging yourself in
deeper when you get caught.
Get caught?
Lying, *****.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Questioning the decision to block partial birth abortion |
04 Jun 2004 04:52:01 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c9p2n7$ju$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
news:c9m92c$iqd$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
The fetus is developed.
That's another lie, *****. Any fetus born that early would die
without extraordinary medical care, and a large number would die
even
with extraordinary medical care.
You support a woman to choose that at any time.
You are an ***** whose only defense is to show everybody what
an
immoral, lying, pathetic excuse of a loser you are.
You do support a woman choosing this procedure at any time.
Prove it, *****.
Deny it idiot
I didn't think you'd be able to.
I just did,
Not only are you a liar, you're a moron too stupid to realize
how badly you embarrass yourself. You lie about people constantly
and then don't even have the brains to stop digging yourself in
deeper when you get caught.
Get caught?
Lying, *****.
So instead of you denying that you support a woman choosing this
procedure at any time, you have chosen to name call instead.
Now, where is the lie if you are not willing to deny it?
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| User: "Somesappywriter" |
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| Title: Re: Questioning the decision to block partial birth abortion |
04 Jun 2004 05:56:57 AM |
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On 4 Jun 2004 02:52:01 -0700, (osprey) wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c9p2n7$ju$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Osprey < > wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c9m92c$iqd$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey < > wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
The fetus is developed.
That's another lie, *****. Any fetus born that early would die
without extraordinary medical care, and a large number would die
even
with extraordinary medical care.
You support a woman to choose that at any time.
You are an ***** whose only defense is to show everybody what
an
immoral, lying, pathetic excuse of a loser you are.
You do support a woman choosing this procedure at any time.
Prove it, *****.
Deny it idiot
I didn't think you'd be able to.
I just did,
Not only are you a liar, you're a moron too stupid to realize
how badly you embarrass yourself. You lie about people constantly
and then don't even have the brains to stop digging yourself in
deeper when you get caught.
Get caught?
Lying, *****.
So instead of you denying that you support a woman choosing this
procedure at any time, you have chosen to name call instead.
Now, where is the lie if you are not willing to deny it?
Why are you posting your lies from work????
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Questioning the decision to block partial birth abortion |
04 Jun 2004 09:33:16 AM |
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In article <8bl0c0lhl6jq8n8anb155deibjbdtrjrc0@4ax.com>,
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote:
On 4 Jun 2004 02:52:01 -0700, (osprey) wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message
news:<c9p2n7$ju$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Osprey < > wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c9m92c$iqd$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey < > wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
The fetus is developed.
That's another lie, *****. Any fetus born that early would
die
without extraordinary medical care, and a large number would
die
even
with extraordinary medical care.
You support a woman to choose that at any time.
You are an ***** whose only defense is to show everybody what
an
immoral, lying, pathetic excuse of a loser you are.
You do support a woman choosing this procedure at any time.
Prove it, *****.
Deny it idiot
I didn't think you'd be able to.
I just did,
Not only are you a liar, you're a moron too stupid to realize
how badly you embarrass yourself. You lie about people constantly
and then don't even have the brains to stop digging yourself in
deeper when you get caught.
Get caught?
Lying, *****.
So instead of you denying that you support a woman choosing this
procedure at any time, you have chosen to name call instead.
Now, where is the lie if you are not willing to deny it?
Why are you posting your lies from work????
Because he has such an important job.
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| User: "Somesappywriter" |
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| Title: Re: Questioning the decision to block partial birth abortion |
04 Jun 2004 03:02:27 PM |
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On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 07:33:16 -0700, "David W. Barnes"
<DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote:
In article <8bl0c0lhl6jq8n8anb155deibjbdtrjrc0@4ax.com>,
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote:
On 4 Jun 2004 02:52:01 -0700, (osprey) wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message
news:<c9p2n7$ju$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Osprey < > wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c9m92c$iqd$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey < > wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
The fetus is developed.
That's another lie, *****. Any fetus born that early would
die
without extraordinary medical care, and a large number would
die
even
with extraordinary medical care.
You support a woman to choose that at any time.
You are an ***** whose only defense is to show everybody what
an
immoral, lying, pathetic excuse of a loser you are.
You do support a woman choosing this procedure at any time.
Prove it, *****.
Deny it idiot
I didn't think you'd be able to.
I just did,
Not only are you a liar, you're a moron too stupid to realize
how badly you embarrass yourself. You lie about people constantly
and then don't even have the brains to stop digging yourself in
deeper when you get caught.
Get caught?
Lying, *****.
So instead of you denying that you support a woman choosing this
procedure at any time, you have chosen to name call instead.
Now, where is the lie if you are not willing to deny it?
Why are you posting your lies from work????
Because he has such an important job.
Seriously, if it were that important TO HIM, he'd be doing it.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Questioning the decision to block partial birth abortion |
04 Jun 2004 10:01:03 PM |
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In article <s9l1c01f077kpfhn755ff833m3ldeg6gov@4ax.com>,
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote:
On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 07:33:16 -0700, "David W. Barnes"
<DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote:
In article <8bl0c0lhl6jq8n8anb155deibjbdtrjrc0@4ax.com>,
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote:
On 4 Jun 2004 02:52:01 -0700, (osprey) wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message
news:<c9p2n7$ju$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Osprey < > wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c9m92c$iqd$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey < > wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
The fetus is developed.
That's another lie, *****. Any fetus born that early
would
die
without extraordinary medical care, and a large number would
die
even
with extraordinary medical care.
You support a woman to choose that at any time.
You are an ***** whose only defense is to show everybody
what
an
immoral, lying, pathetic excuse of a loser you are.
You do support a woman choosing this procedure at any time.
Prove it, *****.
Deny it idiot
I didn't think you'd be able to.
I just did,
Not only are you a liar, you're a moron too stupid to realize
how badly you embarrass yourself. You lie about people constantly
and then don't even have the brains to stop digging yourself in
deeper when you get caught.
Get caught?
Lying, *****.
So instead of you denying that you support a woman choosing this
procedure at any time, you have chosen to name call instead.
Now, where is the lie if you are not willing to deny it?
Why are you posting your lies from work????
Because he has such an important job.
Seriously, if it were that important TO HIM, he'd be doing it.
And then he tells stories about how some guard was injured while he was
sitting at a computer with his feet up.
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Correcting another David Barnes lie |
05 Jun 2004 01:29:14 AM |
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"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message news:<040620042001035298%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com>...
In article <s9l1c01f077kpfhn755ff833m3ldeg6gov@4ax.com>,
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote:
On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 07:33:16 -0700, "David W. Barnes"
<DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote:
In article <8bl0c0lhl6jq8n8anb155deibjbdtrjrc0@4ax.com>,
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote:
On 4 Jun 2004 02:52:01 -0700, (osprey) wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message
news:<c9p2n7$ju$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Osprey < > wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c9m92c$iqd$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey < > wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
The fetus is developed.
That's another lie, *****. Any fetus born that early
would
die
without extraordinary medical care, and a large number would
die
even
with extraordinary medical care.
You support a woman to choose that at any time.
You are an ***** whose only defense is to show everybody
what
an
immoral, lying, pathetic excuse of a loser you are.
You do support a woman choosing this procedure at any time.
Prove it, *****.
Deny it idiot
I didn't think you'd be able to.
I just did,
Not only are you a liar, you're a moron too stupid to realize
how badly you embarrass yourself. You lie about people constantly
and then don't even have the brains to stop digging yourself in
deeper when you get caught.
Get caught?
Lying, *****.
So instead of you denying that you support a woman choosing this
procedure at any time, you have chosen to name call instead.
Now, where is the lie if you are not willing to deny it?
Why are you posting your lies from work????
Because he has such an important job.
Seriously, if it were that important TO HIM, he'd be doing it.
And then he tells stories about how some guard was injured while he was
sitting at a computer with his feet up.
This of course would be yet another lie by David Barnes, for I never
told any such story.
This makes approximately 15 lies by David Barner in less than 2 weeks
that have been corrected
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