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Science > Abortion |
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"J Young" |
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24 Jan 2006 12:12:11 AM |
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Racism in action |
In America today, almost as many colored children are aborted as are born.
A black baby is three times more likely to be murdered in the womb than a
white baby.
Since 1973, abortion has reduced the black population by over 25 percent.
Twice as many coloreds have died from abortion than have died from AIDS,
accidents, violent crimes, cancer, and heart disease combined.
Every three days, more African-Americans are killed by abortion than have
been killed by the Ku Klux Klan in its entire history.
Planned Parenthood operates the nation's largest chain of abortion clinics
and almost 80 percent of its facilities are located in minority
neighborhoods.
About 13 percent of American women are black, but they submit to over 35
percent of the abortions
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"Honesty, Integrity, Compassion, and Decency"
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Racism in action |
24 Jan 2006 10:52:17 PM |
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Is J Yo worried about not having a maid, or enough champion caliber
pro athletes for his sporting teams?
Or is he just presuming that dark bodies are the only ones both warm
and STUPID enough to fill his church?
Paul
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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| Title: Re: Racism in action |
24 Jan 2006 09:10:06 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:hP-dnQBirq-OWEjenZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@giganews.com...
In America today, almost as many colored children are aborted as are born.
A black baby is three times more likely to be murdered in the womb than a
white baby.
Since 1973, abortion has reduced the black population by over 25 percent.
Twice as many coloreds
"Coloreds?" You're the racist.
Planned Parenthood provides abortion services to anyone who seeks one out,
black, white, orange or purple.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Racism in action |
24 Jan 2006 11:35:10 AM |
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In <dr5g06$10$1@news.seed.net.tw>, "Peacenik" <cnelsonpublic@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:hP-dnQBirq-OWEjenZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@giganews.com...
In America today, almost as many colored children are aborted as are
born. A black baby is three times more likely to be murdered in the womb
than a white baby.
Since 1973, abortion has reduced the black population by over 25
percent.
Twice as many coloreds
"Coloreds?" You're the racist.
Planned Parenthood provides abortion services to anyone who seeks one out,
black, white, orange or purple.
Coloreds? Who says "coloreds" anymore?
Is there some kind of tear in the space-time continuum that allows Young
to post from 1950?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
Katrina aftermath pictures
http://www.nola.com/katrinaphotos/user/
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "J Young" |
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| Title: Re: Racism in action |
24 Jan 2006 11:52:11 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:9audnXqMZfTT-EvenZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@megapath.net...
Coloreds? Who says "coloreds" anymore?
Just me and the NAACP. If I'm a racist person, they must be a racist
organization.
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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| Title: Re: Racism in action |
24 Jan 2006 06:59:34 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:xvmdnU3TZuK99EveRVn-sA@giganews.com...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:9audnXqMZfTT-EvenZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@megapath.net...
Coloreds? Who says "coloreds" anymore?
Just me and the NAACP. If I'm a racist person, they must be a racist
organization.
Are you black?
Only people who belong to a certain group can freely use a word that
disparages that group without being perceived as being opposed to that
group. Cf. the N-word.
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| User: "J Young" |
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| Title: Re: Racism in action |
25 Jan 2006 12:19:43 AM |
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"Peacenik" <cnelsonpublic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dr6ihd$ckv$1@news.seed.net.tw...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:xvmdnU3TZuK99EveRVn-sA@giganews.com...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:9audnXqMZfTT-EvenZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@megapath.net...
Coloreds? Who says "coloreds" anymore?
Just me and the NAACP. If I'm a racist person, they must be a racist
organization.
Are you black?
Only people who belong to a certain group can freely use a word that
disparages that group without being perceived as being opposed to that
group. Cf. the N-word.
Who originated that idiotic rule? And what's the story with " the N word"?
Do you mean '*****'? If so, I don't use that term but unlike you, I don't
live in denial that it exists. If coloreds wish to address themselves with
that expression, that's their business. "Spear-chucker" is disparaging,
"porch-monkey" is disparaging; "colored" is a respectable term, albeit a
little old fashioned. Once again, unlike you, I don't use insulting
terminology.
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| User: "Panama Floyd" |
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| Title: Re: Racism in action |
25 Jan 2006 03:50:35 AM |
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J Young wrote:
"Peacenik" <cnelsonpublic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dr6ihd$ckv$1@news.seed.net.tw...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:xvmdnU3TZuK99EveRVn-sA@giganews.com...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:9audnXqMZfTT-EvenZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@megapath.net...
Coloreds? Who says "coloreds" anymore?
Just me and the NAACP. If I'm a racist person, they must be a racist
organization.
Are you black?
Only people who belong to a certain group can freely use a word that
disparages that group without being perceived as being opposed to that
group. Cf. the N-word.
Who originated that idiotic rule? And what's the story with " the N word"?
Do you mean '*****'? If so, I don't use that term but unlike you, I don't
live in denial that it exists. If coloreds wish to address themselves with
that expression, that's their business. "Spear-chucker" is disparaging,
"porch-monkey" is disparaging; "colored" is a respectable term, albeit a
little old fashioned. Once again, unlike you, I don't use insulting
terminology.
Heh, heh. Say "colored" in my working-class poor neighborhood, and
let's see what color your bruises are afterwards. I'll pay the air
fare.
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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| User: "LC" |
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| Title: Re: Racism in action |
25 Jan 2006 09:01:58 AM |
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"Panama Floyd" <panamaflyd@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1138182635.345743.193020@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
J Young wrote:
"Peacenik" <cnelsonpublic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dr6ihd$ckv$1@news.seed.net.tw...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:xvmdnU3TZuK99EveRVn-sA@giganews.com...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:9audnXqMZfTT-EvenZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@megapath.net...
Coloreds? Who says "coloreds" anymore?
Just me and the NAACP. If I'm a racist person, they must be a racist
organization.
Are you black?
Only people who belong to a certain group can freely use a word that
disparages that group without being perceived as being opposed to that
group. Cf. the N-word.
Who originated that idiotic rule? And what's the story with " the N
word"?
Do you mean '*****'? If so, I don't use that term but unlike you, I
don't live in denial that it exists. If coloreds wish to address
themselves with that expression, that's their business. "Spear-chucker"
is disparaging, "porch-monkey" is disparaging; "colored" is a respectable
term, albeit a little old fashioned. Once again, unlike you, I don't use
insulting terminology.
Heh, heh. Say "colored" in my working-class poor neighborhood, and
let's see what color your bruises are afterwards. I'll pay the air
fare.
Indeed. I'm in for a contribution.
Of course, "J Young" is just parroting what his more overtly racist
sockpuppet "IBen" regularly posts:
"Brutal nigga-filth. Cultural sewer sludge with a long
line of silly, sheep-minded white kids waiting for a nasty little
swallow. A glaringly ugly manifestation of an evil, primitive
culture who's individual parts would still be chucking spears at each
other if they had not been blessed with slavery."
From: (IBen Getiner)
Message-ID:
"Your brains are rotten. In your
mind, that porch-monkey still deserves his percentage of those tax cuts. But
why? Will you be so kind as to tell me that...? What jobs will HE create
(besides the need for more law enforcement and prisons)? You're going to
***** up the world yet before your rotten wacked-out generation passes. Why
don't you help nature along a little...? Better yet... why don't you go down
to darkie town one nite and ask you good friend the porch monkey yourself?"
From: (IBen Getiner)
Message-ID: <20040606225719.20447.00000575@mb-m07.aol.com>
LC~ Once again, "J" outs himself.
"You are doing a great service to the pro-life movement IBen G.Keep up the
good work"
From: (Jon Young), schizophrenic bigot.
Message-ID: <25e1e54f.0404250922.29d13975@posting.google.com>
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Racism in action |
25 Jan 2006 03:11:55 PM |
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In <dr6ihd$ckv$1@news.seed.net.tw>, "Peacenik" <cnelsonpublic@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:xvmdnU3TZuK99EveRVn-sA@giganews.com...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:9audnXqMZfTT-EvenZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@megapath.net...
Coloreds? Who says "coloreds" anymore?
Just me and the NAACP. If I'm a racist person, they must be a racist
organization.
Are you black?
Only people who belong to a certain group can freely use a word that
disparages that group without being perceived as being opposed to that
group. Cf. the N-word.
It's a silly comparison to begin with. The NAACP was formed when the term
"coloreds" was actually *in *use...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
Katrina aftermath pictures
http://www.nola.com/katrinaphotos/user/
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "cloim" |
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| Title: Re: Racism in action |
24 Jan 2006 11:08:44 PM |
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On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:59:34 +0800, Peacenik wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:xvmdnU3TZuK99EveRVn-sA@giganews.com...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:9audnXqMZfTT-EvenZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@megapath.net...
Coloreds? Who says "coloreds" anymore?
Just me and the NAACP. If I'm a racist person, they must be a racist
organization.
Are you black?
Only people who belong to a certain group can freely use a word that
disparages that group without being perceived as being opposed to that
group. Cf. the N-word.
"Colored" is no more disparaging than "black".
It does, however, include more people than "black" does. They're not
synonyms.
Any group that uses a term to describe itself, should not be surprised
when others use that term as well. To call someone a racist for using
it is simply stupid.
And if you still want to go that direction, the correct pc term is
"African American", not "black".
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Racism in action |
25 Jan 2006 03:13:32 PM |
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In <pan.2006.01.24.23.16.16.799208@propylaea.tor.org>, cloim
<cloim@propylaea.tor.org> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:59:34 +0800, Peacenik wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:xvmdnU3TZuK99EveRVn-sA@giganews.com...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:9audnXqMZfTT-EvenZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@megapath.net...
Coloreds? Who says "coloreds" anymore?
Just me and the NAACP. If I'm a racist person, they must be a racist
organization.
Are you black?
Only people who belong to a certain group can freely use a word that
disparages that group without being perceived as being opposed to that
group. Cf. the N-word.
"Colored" is no more disparaging than "black". It does, however, include
more people than "black" does. They're not synonyms.
Any group that uses a term to describe itself, should not be surprised
when others use that term as well. To call someone a racist for using it
is simply stupid.
Words have context.
Deal.
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
Katrina aftermath pictures
http://www.nola.com/katrinaphotos/user/
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "cloim" |
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| Title: Re: Racism in action |
25 Jan 2006 05:08:02 PM |
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On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:13:32 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In <pan.2006.01.24.23.16.16.799208@propylaea.tor.org>, cloim
<cloim@propylaea.tor.org> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:59:34 +0800, Peacenik wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:xvmdnU3TZuK99EveRVn-sA@giganews.com...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:9audnXqMZfTT-EvenZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@megapath.net...
Coloreds? Who says "coloreds" anymore?
Just me and the NAACP. If I'm a racist person, they must be a racist
organization.
Are you black?
Only people who belong to a certain group can freely use a word that
disparages that group without being perceived as being opposed to that
group. Cf. the N-word.
"Colored" is no more disparaging than "black". It does, however, include
more people than "black" does. They're not synonyms.
Any group that uses a term to describe itself, should not be surprised
when others use that term as well. To call someone a racist for using it
is simply stupid.
Words have context.
Deal.
The context is identical.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Racism in action |
25 Jan 2006 11:16:11 PM |
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In <pan.2006.01.25.17.16.09.230800@propylaea.tor.org>, cloim
<cloim@propylaea.tor.org> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:13:32 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In <pan.2006.01.24.23.16.16.799208@propylaea.tor.org>, cloim
<cloim@propylaea.tor.org> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:59:34 +0800, Peacenik wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:xvmdnU3TZuK99EveRVn-sA@giganews.com...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:9audnXqMZfTT-EvenZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@megapath.net...
Coloreds? Who says "coloreds" anymore?
Just me and the NAACP. If I'm a racist person, they must be a racist
organization.
Are you black?
Only people who belong to a certain group can freely use a word that
disparages that group without being perceived as being opposed to that
group. Cf. the N-word.
"Colored" is no more disparaging than "black". It does, however,
include more people than "black" does. They're not synonyms.
Any group that uses a term to describe itself, should not be surprised
when others use that term as well. To call someone a racist for using
it is simply stupid.
Words have context.
Deal.
The context is identical.
Except it obviously isn't. If you are determined to believe it is and you
happen to be white, please run over to, oh, South Central LA and call
somebody by the "N" word.
If that doesn't convince you context matters, I doubt anything will...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
Katrina aftermath pictures
http://www.nola.com/katrinaphotos/user/
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "cloim" |
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| Title: Re: Racism in action |
26 Jan 2006 06:04:41 PM |
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On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:16:11 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In <pan.2006.01.25.17.16.09.230800@propylaea.tor.org>, cloim
<cloim@propylaea.tor.org> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:13:32 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In <pan.2006.01.24.23.16.16.799208@propylaea.tor.org>, cloim
<cloim@propylaea.tor.org> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:59:34 +0800, Peacenik wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:xvmdnU3TZuK99EveRVn-sA@giganews.com...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:9audnXqMZfTT-EvenZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@megapath.net...
Coloreds? Who says "coloreds" anymore?
Just me and the NAACP. If I'm a racist person, they must be a racist
organization.
Are you black?
Only people who belong to a certain group can freely use a word that
disparages that group without being perceived as being opposed to that
group. Cf. the N-word.
"Colored" is no more disparaging than "black". It does, however,
include more people than "black" does. They're not synonyms.
Any group that uses a term to describe itself, should not be surprised
when others use that term as well. To call someone a racist for using
it is simply stupid.
Words have context.
Deal.
The context is identical.
Except it obviously isn't. If you are determined to believe it is and you
happen to be white, please run over to, oh, South Central LA and call
somebody by the "N" word.
If that doesn't convince you context matters, I doubt anything will...
We were discussing "colored" being used as a descriptive qualifier to
identify a racial group.
Context is identical. If you think it's not, then please explain.
Telling me that people might respond irrationally to its usage does not
clarify anything.
Anyone that wants me to abide by a standard of behavior and is unwilling
to do so themself is a hypocrite. There desires are irrelevant and
meaningless.
There are plenty of people in the black community that disagree with
*anyone using the word "*****". I'm not aware of any community
organizations that refer to themselves by that term. I don't use it to
describe them. But those within that community that do use it, and who
object it being used by others are hypocrites.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Racism in action |
26 Jan 2006 08:48:34 PM |
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In <pan.2006.01.26.18.12.52.256934@propylaea.tor.org>, cloim
<cloim@propylaea.tor.org> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:16:11 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In <pan.2006.01.25.17.16.09.230800@propylaea.tor.org>, cloim
<cloim@propylaea.tor.org> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:13:32 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In <pan.2006.01.24.23.16.16.799208@propylaea.tor.org>, cloim
<cloim@propylaea.tor.org> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:59:34 +0800, Peacenik wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:xvmdnU3TZuK99EveRVn-sA@giganews.com...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:9audnXqMZfTT-EvenZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@megapath.net...
Coloreds? Who says "coloreds" anymore?
Just me and the NAACP. If I'm a racist person, they must be a
racist organization.
Are you black?
Only people who belong to a certain group can freely use a word that
disparages that group without being perceived as being opposed to
that group. Cf. the N-word.
"Colored" is no more disparaging than "black". It does, however,
include more people than "black" does. They're not synonyms.
Any group that uses a term to describe itself, should not be
surprised when others use that term as well. To call someone a racist
for using it is simply stupid.
Words have context.
Deal.
The context is identical.
Except it obviously isn't. If you are determined to believe it is and
you happen to be white, please run over to, oh, South Central LA and
call somebody by the "N" word.
If that doesn't convince you context matters, I doubt anything will...
We were discussing "colored" being used as a descriptive qualifier to
identify a racial group.
Context is identical. If you think it's not, then please explain.
Telling me that people might respond irrationally to its usage does not
clarify anything.
And yet reality stubbornly refuses to conform to what you think it should.
Obviously, context has meaning. And your opinion matters about as much as
if you were objecting to the sun rising.
Anyone that wants me to abide by a standard of behavior and is unwilling
to do so themself is a hypocrite. There desires are irrelevant and
meaningless.
There are plenty of people in the black community that disagree with
*anyone using the word "*****". I'm not aware of any community
organizations that refer to themselves by that term. I don't use it to
describe them. But those within that community that do use it, and who
object it being used by others are hypocrites.
Well, that's nice. Now, what did you accomplish?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
Katrina aftermath pictures
http://www.nola.com/katrinaphotos/user/
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "cloim" |
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| Title: Re: Racism in action |
27 Jan 2006 05:30:43 PM |
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On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:48:34 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In <pan.2006.01.26.18.12.52.256934@propylaea.tor.org>, cloim
<cloim@propylaea.tor.org> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:16:11 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In <pan.2006.01.25.17.16.09.230800@propylaea.tor.org>, cloim
<cloim@propylaea.tor.org> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:13:32 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In <pan.2006.01.24.23.16.16.799208@propylaea.tor.org>, cloim
<cloim@propylaea.tor.org> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:59:34 +0800, Peacenik wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:xvmdnU3TZuK99EveRVn-sA@giganews.com...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:9audnXqMZfTT-EvenZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@megapath.net...
Coloreds? Who says "coloreds" anymore?
Just me and the NAACP. If I'm a racist person, they must be a
racist organization.
Are you black?
Only people who belong to a certain group can freely use a word that
disparages that group without being perceived as being opposed to
that group. Cf. the N-word.
"Colored" is no more disparaging than "black". It does, however,
include more people than "black" does. They're not synonyms.
Any group that uses a term to describe itself, should not be
surprised when others use that term as well. To call someone a racist
for using it is simply stupid.
Words have context.
Deal.
The context is identical.
Except it obviously isn't. If you are determined to believe it is and
you happen to be white, please run over to, oh, South Central LA and
call somebody by the "N" word.
If that doesn't convince you context matters, I doubt anything will...
We were discussing "colored" being used as a descriptive qualifier to
identify a racial group.
Context is identical. If you think it's not, then please explain.
Telling me that people might respond irrationally to its usage does not
clarify anything.
And yet reality stubbornly refuses to conform to what you think it should.
Obviously, context has meaning. And your opinion matters about as much as
if you were objecting to the sun rising.
Context is *identical.
Your assertion that it isn't has no basis in fact.
Anyone that wants me to abide by a standard of behavior and is unwilling
to do so themself is a hypocrite. There desires are irrelevant and
meaningless.
There are plenty of people in the black community that disagree with
*anyone using the word "*****". I'm not aware of any community
organizations that refer to themselves by that term. I don't use it to
describe them. But those within that community that do use it, and who
object it being used by others are hypocrites.
Well, that's nice. Now, what did you accomplish?
I clarified your attempt to shift the context.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Racism in action |
29 Jan 2006 11:23:24 AM |
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In <pan.2006.01.27.17.38.51.359361@propylaea.tor.org>, cloim
<cloim@propylaea.tor.org> wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:48:34 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In <pan.2006.01.26.18.12.52.256934@propylaea.tor.org>, cloim
<cloim@propylaea.tor.org> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:16:11 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In <pan.2006.01.25.17.16.09.230800@propylaea.tor.org>, cloim
<cloim@propylaea.tor.org> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:13:32 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In <pan.2006.01.24.23.16.16.799208@propylaea.tor.org>, cloim
<cloim@propylaea.tor.org> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:59:34 +0800, Peacenik wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
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Coloreds? Who says "coloreds" anymore?
Just me and the NAACP. If I'm a racist person, they must be a
racist organization.
Are you black?
Only people who belong to a certain group can freely use a word
that disparages that group without being perceived as being
opposed to that group. Cf. the N-word.
"Colored" is no more disparaging than "black". It does, however,
include more people than "black" does. They're not synonyms.
Any group that uses a term to describe itself, should not be
surprised when others use that term as well. To call someone a
racist for using it is simply stupid.
Words have context.
Deal.
The context is identical.
Except it obviously isn't. If you are determined to believe it is and
you happen to be white, please run over to, oh, South Central LA and
call somebody by the "N" word.
If that doesn't convince you context matters, I doubt anything will...
We were discussing "colored" being used as a descriptive qualifier to
identify a racial group.
Context is identical. If you think it's not, then please explain.
Telling me that people might respond irrationally to its usage does not
clarify anything.
And yet reality stubbornly refuses to conform to what you think it
should.
Obviously, context has meaning. And your opinion matters about as much
as if you were objecting to the sun rising.
Context is *identical.
Your assertion that it isn't has no basis in fact.
And yet you'll get your ***** beat. Funny that.
Anyone that wants me to abide by a standard of behavior and is
unwilling to do so themself is a hypocrite. There desires are
irrelevant and meaningless.
There are plenty of people in the black community that disagree with
*anyone using the word "*****". I'm not aware of any community
organizations that refer to themselves by that term. I don't use it to
describe them. But those within that community that do use it, and who
object it being used by others are hypocrites.
Well, that's nice. Now, what did you accomplish?
I clarified your attempt to shift the context.
Well, now you can turn your attention to peace in the Middle East eh?
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Mark K. Bilbo
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Katrina aftermath pictures
http://www.nola.com/katrinaphotos/user/
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| Title: Re: Racism in action |
29 Jan 2006 02:16:30 PM |
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On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 11:23:24 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In <pan.2006.01.27.17.38.51.359361@propylaea.tor.org>, cloim
<cloim@propylaea.tor.org> wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:48:34 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In <pan.2006.01.26.18.12.52.256934@propylaea.tor.org>, cloim
<cloim@propylaea.tor.org> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:16:11 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In <pan.2006.01.25.17.16.09.230800@propylaea.tor.org>, cloim
<cloim@propylaea.tor.org> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:13:32 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In <pan.2006.01.24.23.16.16.799208@propylaea.tor.org>, cloim
<cloim@propylaea.tor.org> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:59:34 +0800, Peacenik wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:xvmdnU3TZuK99EveRVn-sA@giganews.com...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:9audnXqMZfTT-EvenZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@megapath.net...
Coloreds? Who says "coloreds" anymore?
Just me and the NAACP. If I'm a racist person, they must be a
racist organization.
Are you black?
Only people who belong to a certain group can freely use a word
that disparages that group without being perceived as being
opposed to that group. Cf. the N-word.
"Colored" is no more disparaging than "black". It does, however,
include more people than "black" does. They're not synonyms.
Any group that uses a term to describe itself, should not be
surprised when others use that term as well. To call someone a
racist for using it is simply stupid.
Words have context.
Deal.
The context is identical.
Except it obviously isn't. If you are determined to believe it is and
you happen to be white, please run over to, oh, South Central LA and
call somebody by the "N" word.
If that doesn't convince you context matters, I doubt anything will...
We were discussing "colored" being used as a descriptive qualifier to
identify a racial group.
Context is identical. If you think it's not, then please explain.
Telling me that people might respond irrationally to its usage does not
clarify anything.
And yet reality stubbornly refuses to conform to what you think it
should.
Obviously, context has meaning. And your opinion matters about as much
as if you were objecting to the sun rising.
Context is *identical.
Your assertion that it isn't has no basis in fact.
And yet you'll get your ***** beat. Funny that.
Why do you think irrational violence is funny?
Anyone that wants me to abide by a standard of behavior and is
unwilling to do so themself is a hypocrite. There desires are
irrelevant and meaningless.
There are plenty of people in the black community that disagree with
*anyone using the word "*****". I'm not aware of any community
organizations that refer to themselves by that term. I don't use it
to describe them. But those within that community that do use it, and
who object it being used by others are hypocrites.
Well, that's nice. Now, what did you accomplish?
I clarified your attempt to shift the context.
Well, now you can turn your attention to peace in the Middle East eh?
Since irrational violence does not bother you, Why would you want me to
try?
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Racism in action |
25 Jan 2006 03:12:45 PM |
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In <xvmdnU3TZuK99EveRVn-sA@giganews.com>, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:9audnXqMZfTT-EvenZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@megapath.net...
Coloreds? Who says "coloreds" anymore?
Just me and the NAACP. If I'm a racist person, they must be a racist
organization.
Well, that's a stupid remark. The NAACP was formed *when the term was in
use.
Duh?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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Katrina aftermath pictures
http://www.nola.com/katrinaphotos/user/
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "LC" |
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| Title: Re: Racism in action |
24 Jan 2006 12:03:38 PM |
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KKKook "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
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Coloreds? Who says "coloreds" anymore?
Just me and the NAACP. If I'm a racist person,
"If"?
Lessee: you're a proven racist, liar, and plagiarizing thief.
Just to name a few.
Very few.
they must be a racist organization.
Uh huh.
Keep running, IBen.
LC~ "J" demonstrates his ongoing lack of conviction in his trolls:
"Mr. Young:
I challenge you here and now, publically, in front of witnesses, to a
written debate on the USENET group talk.origins."
From: Chris Thompson <cthompson@TAKEOUT.bmcc.cuny.edu>, still waiting for
coward "J" to stop running.
Newsgroups: alt.atheism,talk.origins
Subject: Re: What Are Darwinists So Afraid of?
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:52:26 GMT
Message-ID: <Xns974E1D3C4949CcthompsonTAKEOUTbmcc@207.69.189.191>
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: Racism in action |
24 Jan 2006 12:47:00 AM |
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A baby in the womb is not a baby.
Since abortion is legal, it is also not murdered.
Stop lying, hypocrit *****.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Racism in action |
24 Jan 2006 06:44:53 AM |
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"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
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A baby
Yes.
in the womb
Yeah.
is not a baby.
Wrong.
Since abortion is legal,
Not in all cases, actually.
it is also not murdered.
Another errant statement.
Stop lying, hypocrit *****.
What a joke.
"How will you survive the condemnation of hell?"
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Racism in action |
24 Jan 2006 01:34:19 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1138085220.365113.217830@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
A baby
Yes.
Once it's born, it will be.
in the womb
Yeah.
Sorry, but babies have been born. You may now throw one of your patented
tantrums.
is not a baby.
Wrong.
You definitely are wrong.
Since abortion is legal,
Not in all cases, actually.
Nobody claimed it was, in all cases.
it is also not murdered.
Another errant statement.
That's your talent - since abortion, even back when it was still geberally
illegal in this country, was *never* treated as murder. Check your own
state's court records...I suspect you'll find few, if any women who were
prosecuted for obtaining an abortion who were charged with murder.
Stop lying, hypocrit *****.
What a joke.
"How will you survive the condemnation of hell?"
Quite easily, I'd say, since it's _your_ impotent fantasy that surfaces every
time you start to figure out that you're getting the wigging you deserve.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 4, Chicago 0 (January 22)
NEXT GAME: Tuesday, January 24 at Peoria, 7:05
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| User: "Calife" |
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24 Jan 2006 08:42:58 AM |
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Johnny wrote:
"How will you survive the condemnation of hell?"
Considering there is no more hell than there is a djeezus and his dad,
Parsifal and I and presumably George will carry on living in health with
no worry about your non-existent inferno?
Now, what about limbo???? :-D :-D :-D
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Racism in action |
24 Jan 2006 12:51:01 AM |
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Parsifal wrote:
A baby in the womb is not a baby.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=baby
A very young child; an infant.
An unborn child; a fetus.
The youngest member of a family or group.
A very young animal.
Apparentely the definition of baby disagrees with you.
Since abortion is legal, it is also not murdered.
True; however, abortion is still a homicide. Our society has allowed
it to become a justifiable homicide.
Stop lying, hypocrit *****.
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| User: "George" |
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24 Jan 2006 01:59:39 AM |
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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Parsifal wrote:
A baby in the womb is not a baby.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=baby
A very young child; an infant.
An unborn child; a fetus.
The youngest member of a family or group.
A very young animal.
Apparentely the definition of baby disagrees with you.
Irrelevant to the legal and/or the scientific definition. And the legal
and/or scientific definition really is a side issue to the real issue,
which is the right of a woman to control over her own body.
George
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Racism in action |
24 Jan 2006 06:48:14 AM |
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"George" <george@wtfiswrongwithyou.com> wrote in message
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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Parsifal wrote:
A baby in the womb is not a baby.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=baby
A very young child; an infant.
An unborn child; a fetus.
The youngest member of a family or group.
A very young animal.
Apparentely the definition of baby disagrees with you.
Irrelevant to the legal and/or the scientific definition.
Which is what all wimps and contentious woman say to act as if they somehow
have a right to abort living children by their will instead of by rule.
And the legal and/or scientific definition really is a side issue to the
real issue,
But, you are so freakin' afraid they will take the legal choice to abort
away, huh?
Why don't you stop defending abortion on demand so people won't hate you?
which is the right of a woman to control over her own body.
Not actually determined to be the case of the collective conscience of the
USA.
George
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Racism in action |
24 Jan 2006 01:19:01 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"George" <george@wtfiswrongwithyou.com> wrote in message
news:L7lBf.510488$084.180715@attbi_s22...
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1138085461.155956.212310@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Parsifal wrote:
A baby in the womb is not a baby.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=baby
A very young child; an infant.
An unborn child; a fetus.
The youngest member of a family or group.
A very young animal.
Apparentely the definition of baby disagrees with you.
Irrelevant to the legal and/or the scientific definition.
Which is what all wimps and contentious woman say to act as if they somehow
have a right to abort living children by their will instead of by rule.
When you're able to get pregnant, you'll deserve to be listened to. Until
then, you're just making noise.
And the legal and/or scientific definition really is a side issue to the
real issue,
But, you are so freakin' afraid they will take the legal choice to abort
away, huh? Why don't you stop defending abortion on demand so people won't
hate you?
Who hates him, besides the official crackhead of Anderson County? (That's
*you*, remember?)
which is the right of a woman to control over her own body.
Not actually determined to be the case of the collective conscience of the
USA.
....which doesn't, for practical purposes, exist. Lay off the chemicals, for
crying out loud.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 4, Chicago 0 (January 22)
NEXT GAME: Tuesday, January 24 at Peoria, 7:05
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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24 Jan 2006 09:18:52 AM |
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In article <EjpBf.1693$eY5.673@bignews7.bellsouth.net>, Johnny
<wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"George" <george@wtfiswrongwithyou.com> wrote in message
news:L7lBf.510488$084.180715@attbi_s22...
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1138085461.155956.212310@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
But, you are so freakin' afraid they will take the legal choice to abort
away, huh?
Why don't you stop defending abortion on demand so people won't hate you?
Typical of the Right Wing. Sell out Americas civil liberties for your
own selfish desires.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Racism in action |
24 Jan 2006 09:18:51 AM |
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In article <L7lBf.510488$084.180715@attbi_s22>, George
<george@wtfiswrongwithyou.com> wrote:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1138085461.155956.212310@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Parsifal wrote:
A baby in the womb is not a baby.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=baby
A very young child; an infant.
An unborn child; a fetus.
The youngest member of a family or group.
A very young animal.
Apparentely the definition of baby disagrees with you.
Irrelevant to the legal and/or the scientific definition. And the legal
and/or scientific definition really is a side issue to the real issue,
which is the right of a woman to control over her own body.
George
Plus abortion is not homicide. Osprey, the guard, pulled that out of
his *****.
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