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Science > Abortion |
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"J Young" |
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17 Dec 2005 06:41:57 PM |
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Rape and abortion |
Many people who support legalized abortion do so because of a circumstance
like conception from rape. The following is a heart warming testimony that
just may change a few minds.
http://priestsforlife.org/testimony/jennispeltz.htm
Testimony of Jennifer Speltz
I first began to recognize that I had a story to tell when I was attending a
public Junior High school in Forest Lake, MN. Quite often the abortion topic
would come up with friends and on occasion comments were thrown out by
abortion-minded teachers. I would always cringe a little when they would say
"I don't like abortion, I think it is wrong . . . except in cases of rape
and incest," or "we really have to keep abortion legal for cases of rape and
incest."
My mom had slowly been revealing the circumstances of my conception to me
over the years and by the time I was 13, I understood and had come to grips
with the reality that my father was, essentially, a rapist. Though he was
18, as was my mother, at the time of my conception, and most likely had
acted out of a dare by his friends, he had violated my mother against her
will.
When my mom found out she was pregnant with me, the only advice she was
given was to discard the "products of conception." She explains, better than
anyone, how she was never offered support to keep me, though this is where
her heart was leading her. Needless to say, I am eternally grateful that she
heeded that still, small voice in her heart which told her that the life
growing within had a purpose and did not merit death.
When the topic came up, throughout Junior High and High School, I would
usually first try to appeal to reason saying: "Now, why don't you like
abortion? What is wrong with it?" When they would answer "Because, it's a
life" some would immediately recognize the double standard and relent. Most
of the time, however, even when faced with the evident, they would still
persist with emotional arguments: "You just can't make a woman go through
with a pregnancy like that." Though it is an unjust and heart wrenching
scenario to consider, it must be dealt with, and so I would tell them our
story. Only once in High School did a person who heard this story turn away
cold-faced. Every other person who was faced with "a face" allowed their
hearts to melt at the truth of matter - God has a plan for everyone!
As my 27th birthday approaches, I am ever discovering God's magnificent
plan, not only for my life, but for every life that he calls into existence.
It is crucial that every citizen realize that a person's dignity is not
founded in whether or not one is wanted, as abortion peddlers and
legislators would like them to believe. A person's dignity is founded in the
reality that persons are created in the image and likeness of God. The
circumstances of my conception, yours, or anyone's does not determine
quality of life.
Young people across the nation and the world are coming to recognize the
double-standards of abortion rhetoric and that all of the promises of the,
so called, "sexual revolution" are coming up empty. Young people are
renewing the pro-life movement with an unmatched determination to herald in
a new "Culture of Life." By the grace of God my mom and I were spared of the
life-long, direct agony that abortion reaps. On the other hand, when you
consider Planned Parenthood's grisly statistic that 40% of all women in the
U.S. will have an abortion by the age of 40 (mothers, daughters, aunts,
grandmothers, granddaughters, cousins, wives) every American citizen has
been touched by the grief of abortion directly or indirectly, consciously or
unconsciously. Therefore, every one of us has an obligation to stand up! I
am overjoyed to be apart of the generation that WILL turn the cultural tide
so that following generations will be spared of this unjust suffering.
Jenni Speltz
Director of Campus Outreach
Human Life Alliance
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: Rape and abortion |
18 Dec 2005 03:23:35 AM |
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*Many people who support legalized abortion do so because of a
circumstance
*like conception from rape. The following is a heart warming testimony
that
*just may change a few minds.
It's not changing my mind: you're still an idiot.
Why would the testimony of ONE person change anything?
Besides, why are the strongest opponent to the right to get an abortion
also the one opposed to the "day after pill" and, most importantly, to
a strong and intelligent program of sexual education in school? Don't
you think that if kids were better informed, there would be less
abortions? Check the statistics of countries like Danemark, the
Netherlands, Finland among others, and no where will you see figures
even close to the one for USA...
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| User: "Nusrat Rizvi, Rowayton Connecticut" |
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| Title: Re: Rape and abortion |
18 Dec 2005 02:05:33 PM |
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On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 19:41:57 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
Shouldn't your Church's first priority be damage control since
pedophilia made head lines all across the globe or don't you think
rape of choir boys does not require as much attention as prevention of
abortion?
Many people who support legalized abortion do so because of a circumstance
like conception from rape. The following is a heart warming testimony that
just may change a few minds.
http://priestsforlife.org/testimony/jennispeltz.htm
Testimony of Jennifer Speltz
I first began to recognize that I had a story to tell when I was attending a
public Junior High school in Forest Lake, MN. Quite often the abortion topic
would come up with friends and on occasion comments were thrown out by
abortion-minded teachers. I would always cringe a little when they would say
"I don't like abortion, I think it is wrong . . . except in cases of rape
and incest," or "we really have to keep abortion legal for cases of rape and
incest."
My mom had slowly been revealing the circumstances of my conception to me
over the years and by the time I was 13, I understood and had come to grips
with the reality that my father was, essentially, a rapist. Though he was
18, as was my mother, at the time of my conception, and most likely had
acted out of a dare by his friends, he had violated my mother against her
will.
When my mom found out she was pregnant with me, the only advice she was
given was to discard the "products of conception." She explains, better than
anyone, how she was never offered support to keep me, though this is where
her heart was leading her. Needless to say, I am eternally grateful that she
heeded that still, small voice in her heart which told her that the life
growing within had a purpose and did not merit death.
When the topic came up, throughout Junior High and High School, I would
usually first try to appeal to reason saying: "Now, why don't you like
abortion? What is wrong with it?" When they would answer "Because, it's a
life" some would immediately recognize the double standard and relent. Most
of the time, however, even when faced with the evident, they would still
persist with emotional arguments: "You just can't make a woman go through
with a pregnancy like that." Though it is an unjust and heart wrenching
scenario to consider, it must be dealt with, and so I would tell them our
story. Only once in High School did a person who heard this story turn away
cold-faced. Every other person who was faced with "a face" allowed their
hearts to melt at the truth of matter - God has a plan for everyone!
As my 27th birthday approaches, I am ever discovering God's magnificent
plan, not only for my life, but for every life that he calls into existence.
It is crucial that every citizen realize that a person's dignity is not
founded in whether or not one is wanted, as abortion peddlers and
legislators would like them to believe. A person's dignity is founded in the
reality that persons are created in the image and likeness of God. The
circumstances of my conception, yours, or anyone's does not determine
quality of life.
Young people across the nation and the world are coming to recognize the
double-standards of abortion rhetoric and that all of the promises of the,
so called, "sexual revolution" are coming up empty. Young people are
renewing the pro-life movement with an unmatched determination to herald in
a new "Culture of Life." By the grace of God my mom and I were spared of the
life-long, direct agony that abortion reaps. On the other hand, when you
consider Planned Parenthood's grisly statistic that 40% of all women in the
U.S. will have an abortion by the age of 40 (mothers, daughters, aunts,
grandmothers, granddaughters, cousins, wives) every American citizen has
been touched by the grief of abortion directly or indirectly, consciously or
unconsciously. Therefore, every one of us has an obligation to stand up! I
am overjoyed to be apart of the generation that WILL turn the cultural tide
so that following generations will be spared of this unjust suffering.
Jenni Speltz
Director of Campus Outreach
Human Life Alliance
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| User: "J Young" |
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| Title: Re: Rape and abortion |
18 Dec 2005 02:30:47 PM |
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"Nusrat Rizvi, Rowayton Connecticut" <rizvioct@optonline.net> wrote in
message news:d3gbq1dtpvs16lteib19moqsmuo6s85brh@4ax.com...
Shouldn't your Church's first priority be damage control since
pedophilia made head lines all across the globe or don't you think
rape of choir boys does not require as much attention as prevention of
abortion?
While I agree with you that gay priests molesting teenage boys is abhorant,
it has nothing to do with the issue of the RCC coming to the defense of
pre-born babies facing abortion. The circumstance with which the child was
conceived is horrific , but doesn't justify sentencing a baby to death. The
testimony provided is living proof.
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| User: "Gaia" |
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| Title: Re: Rape and abortion |
18 Dec 2005 03:06:47 PM |
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J Young wrote:
"Nusrat Rizvi, Rowayton Connecticut" <rizvioct@optonline.net> wrote in
message news:d3gbq1dtpvs16lteib19moqsmuo6s85brh@4ax.com...
Shouldn't your Church's first priority be damage control since
pedophilia made head lines all across the globe or don't you think
rape of choir boys does not require as much attention as prevention of
abortion?
While I agree with you that gay priests molesting teenage boys...
....so do you.
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| User: "Nusrat Rizvi, Rowayton Connecticut" |
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| Title: Re: Rape and abortion |
19 Dec 2005 06:59:55 AM |
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On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 15:30:47 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
"Nusrat Rizvi, Rowayton Connecticut" <rizvioct@optonline.net> wrote in
message news:d3gbq1dtpvs16lteib19moqsmuo6s85brh@4ax.com...
Shouldn't your Church's first priority be damage control since
pedophilia made head lines all across the globe or don't you think
rape of choir boys does not require as much attention as prevention of
abortion?
While I agree with you that gay priests molesting teenage boys is abhorant,
it has nothing to do with the issue of the RCC coming to the defense of
pre-born babies facing abortion. The circumstance with which the child was
conceived is horrific , but doesn't justify sentencing a baby to death. The
testimony provided is living proof.
There is more to it than that, for example had it not been for the
free American society and our legal system which exposed
the sordid side of your church, your church would have continued to
deny pedophilia and the sick business would have continued unabated.
How in light of this can you appoint yourself guardian of unborn all
the while doing terrible things to living?
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Rape and abortion |
18 Dec 2005 06:42:42 PM |
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in article 15ydnan9ArhwWzjeRVn-pg@giganews.com, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com wrote on 12/18/05 3:30 PM:
"Nusrat Rizvi, Rowayton Connecticut" <rizvioct@optonline.net> wrote in
message news:d3gbq1dtpvs16lteib19moqsmuo6s85brh@4ax.com...
Shouldn't your Church's first priority be damage control since
pedophilia made head lines all across the globe or don't you think
rape of choir boys does not require as much attention as prevention of
abortion?
While I agree with you that gay priests molesting teenage boys is abhorant,
it has nothing to do with the issue of the RCC coming to the defense of
pre-born babies facing abortion. The circumstance with which the child was
conceived is horrific, which really excites me.
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| User: "erikc" |
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| Title: Re: Rape and abortion |
18 Dec 2005 03:24:16 PM |
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On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 19:41:57 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
[buncha ***** how he was the product of rape]
You momma should have gone ahead and had you sucked out.
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight (retired) | "The Truth against the World."
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