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Science > Abortion |
| User: |
"james g. keegan jr." |
| Date: |
24 Dec 2006 09:19:50 AM |
| Object: |
ray, still running away |
ray fischer's anti-choice positions have long been a topic of
discussion.
in 1994, Linda Birmingham asked:
"Mr. Fischer have you not posted that you support abortion
restrictions and the incarceration of women who chose to ignore your
restrictions?"
Message-ID: <2l2iq9$dm2@hermes.acs.ryerson.ca>
she was referring to these statements, by fischer, and others.
abortion restrictions:
"What I proposed would allow a woman to end
her pregnancy at any time for any reason,
but would place restrictions on the methods."
<rayCJBvtr....@netcom.com>
methods of restricting abortion:
"Any method that allows saving the life of the fetus without
placing the mother at significant additional risk."
<rayCJE1K1....@netcom.com>
prison:
"What punishment? I'd consider a deliberate killing of a fetus to be
manslaughter, with the penalties appropriate to that crime. And
yes, that does mean throwing the would-be mother in jail should she
be so convicted. While putting mothers in jail sounds nasty, I
don't think that women should be treated like children just because
they are pregnant. I expect _equal_ justice under the law."
Ray Fischer (r...@netcom.com) in
article1992Nov17.052121.2...@netcom.com>
fischer is still running away from these.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: keegan, still a pro-abortion pervert |
24 Dec 2006 04:12:25 PM |
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Like Dog *****, keegan's obsessiveness smells up the entire area.
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
ray fischer's anti-choice positions have long been a topic of
discussion.
They dont' exist, pervert, unlike your extremist pro-abortion
pro-killing fanaticism.
in 1994, Linda Birmingham asked:
Nobody gives a *****, pervert.
do you jerk off when you think about dead mommies?
keegan in <jkeeganDD8Czs.ExJ@netcom.com>
do you get excited?
keegan in <jkeeganDCwn6z.G4r@netcom.com>
playing with yourself again, sonny?
keegan in <jkeeganDCzqBu.Asv@netcom.com>
do you jerk off when you think of mutilating someone?
keegan in <3jbb7a$i0i@usenet.rpi.edu>
did you get a hard on when you thought of violence?
keegan in <3jdn01$mmj@usenet.rpi.edu>
do you lick your lips and get a hard on when you think
about people whom you judge to be something or other
you don't like?
keegan in <3je1f2$s7j@usenet.rpi.edu>
the thing is, you really enjoyed being pissed on,
didn't you?
keegan in <3jn1m2$jrh@usenet.rpi.edu>
did someone say that you were
jerking off in mcclatchie's pink footsie pajamas?
keegan in <3kdpke$8cd@usenet.rpi.edu>
masturbating as you watched?
keegan in <3l1uca$khu@usenet.rpi.edu>
watching a death is what turns you on, eh?
have you tried it with a plastic bag over your head?
keegan in <3lh31j$612@usenet.rpi.edu>
does that make you jealous? a bit sexually excited?
keegan in <D6Jn2H.1zI@news.wizvax.net>
do you jerk off when you defend ralph taite? do
you jerk off more when you read his posts about
slapping women around? do you like to slap women
around?
keegan in <3b8oi5$laj@usenet.rpi.edu>
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: keegan, still a pro-abortion pervert |
26 Dec 2006 09:00:49 AM |
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In article <458efb49$0$80107$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
ray fischer's anti-choice positions have long been a topic of
discussion.
====begin restore unmarked deletion
in 1994, Linda Birmingham asked:
"Mr. Fischer have you not posted that you support abortion
restrictions and the incarceration of women who chose to ignore your
restrictions?"
Message-ID: <2l2iq9$dm2@hermes.acs.ryerson.ca>
she was referring to these statements, by fischer, and others.
abortion restrictions:
"What I proposed would allow a woman to end
her pregnancy at any time for any reason,
but would place restrictions on the methods."
<rayCJBvtr....@netcom.com>
methods of restricting abortion:
"Any method that allows saving the life of the fetus without
placing the mother at significant additional risk."
<rayCJE1K1....@netcom.com>
prison:
"What punishment? I'd consider a deliberate killing of a fetus to be
manslaughter, with the penalties appropriate to that crime. And
yes, that does mean throwing the would-be mother in jail should she
be so convicted. While putting mothers in jail sounds nasty, I
don't think that women should be treated like children just because
they are pregnant. I expect _equal_ justice under the law."
Ray Fischer (r...@netcom.com) in
article1992Nov17.052121.2...@netcom.com>
fischer is still running away from these.
=====end restoer unmarked deletion
They dont' exist,
sure they do. i replaced them above where you had deleted them. i';;
bet you fooled a lot of folks with that one. *smitk*
you anti-choice cowards are all the same.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: keegan, still a pro-abortion pervert |
26 Dec 2006 01:02:05 PM |
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james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <458efb49$0$80107$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
ray fischer's anti-choice positions have long been a topic of
discussion.
====begin restore unmarked deletion
in 1994, Linda Birmingham asked:
keegan is off on one of his obsessive smear campaigns and has been
repeatedly lying about my position.
I am pro-choice. I always have been. There is a decade of posts from
me to prove that fact. Even words quoted by keegan prove that fact.
keegan, is a bizarre attempt to ingratiate himself with pro-abortion
extremists, has been attacking people who doesn't support his extremist
position of no restrictions whatever on abortion. In his attacks he
resorts to transparent lies what are even contradicted by the very
quotes he provides. When challenged he simply repeats the lies and
refuses to answer any questions.
The conclusion is that keegan is just a sorry control freak who can do
little but smear people.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: keegan, still a pro-abortion pervert |
26 Dec 2006 01:21:05 PM |
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In article <459171ad$0$80107$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <458efb49$0$80107$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
ray fischer's anti-choice positions have long been a topic of
discussion.
====begin restore unmarked deletion
in 1994, Linda Birmingham asked:
===begin restore unmarked deletion
"Mr. Fischer have you not posted that you support abortion
restrictions and the incarceration of women who chose to ignore your
restrictions?"
Message-ID: <2l2iq9$dm2@hermes.acs.ryerson.ca>
she was referring to these statements, by fischer, and others.
abortion restrictions:
"What I proposed would allow a woman to end
her pregnancy at any time for any reason,
but would place restrictions on the methods."
<rayCJBvtr....@netcom.com>
methods of restricting abortion:
"Any method that allows saving the life of the fetus without
placing the mother at significant additional risk."
<rayCJE1K1....@netcom.com>
prison:
"What punishment? I'd consider a deliberate killing of a fetus to be
manslaughter, with the penalties appropriate to that crime. And
yes, that does mean throwing the would-be mother in jail should she
be so convicted. While putting mothers in jail sounds nasty, I
don't think that women should be treated like children just because
they are pregnant. I expect _equal_ justice under the law."
Ray Fischer (r...@netcom.com) in
article1992Nov17.052121.2...@netcom.com>
fischer is still running away from these.
=====end restoer unmarked deletion
They dont' exist,
sure they do. i replaced them above where you had deleted them. i';;
bet you fooled a lot of folks with that one. *smitk*
you anti-choice cowards are all the same.
===end restore unmarked deletion
'
keegan is off on one of his obsessive smear campaigns and has been
repeatedly lying about my position.
do tell readers how quoting your anti-choice stance is lying.
I am pro-choice.
do tell readers how you are a pro-choicer who supports anti-choice
abortion restrictions even to the point of imprisoning women who have
abortions.
keegan, is a bizarre attempt to ingratiate himself with pro-abortion
extremists, has been attacking people who doesn't support his extremist
position
really? can you show a single pro-choicer whom i have attacked?
run away from this claim as you have run away from so many others.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: keegan, still a pro-abortion pervert |
26 Dec 2006 01:23:40 PM |
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james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <459171ad$0$80107$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <458efb49$0$80107$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
ray fischer's anti-choice positions have long been a topic of
discussion.
====begin restore unmarked deletion
in 1994, Linda Birmingham asked:
===begin restore unmarked deletion
keegan is off on one of his obsessive smear campaigns and has been
repeatedly lying about my position.
I am pro-choice. I always have been. There is a decade of posts from
me to prove that fact. Even words quoted by keegan prove that fact.
In a bizarre exmaple of insane dislogic, keegan claims that supporting
a woman's right to end her pregnancy at any time and for any reason is
somehow forcing her to give birth.
In a bizarre attempt to ingratiate himself with pro-abortion extremists,
he has been attacking people who don't support his extremist position of
no restrictions whatever on abortion - even to the point fo demanding
a right to kill a health, full-term fetus.
In his attacks he resorts to transparent lies what are even contradicted
by the very quotes he provides. When challenged he simply repeats the lies
and refuses to answer any questions. He mangles text and edits people
words whenever he cannot handle the facts.
The conclusion is that keegan is just a sorry control freak who can do
little but smear people.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: keegan, still a pro-abortion pervert |
26 Dec 2006 01:35:10 PM |
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In article <459176bc$0$80070$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <459171ad$0$80107$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <458efb49$0$80107$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
ray fischer's anti-choice positions have long been a topic of
discussion.
====begin restore unmarked deletion
in 1994, Linda Birmingham asked:
===begin restore unmarked deletion
===begin restore unmarked deletion
===begin restore unmarked deletion
"Mr. Fischer have you not posted that you support abortion
restrictions and the incarceration of women who chose to ignore your
restrictions?"
Message-ID: <2l2iq9$dm2@hermes.acs.ryerson.ca>
she was referring to these statements, by fischer, and others.
abortion restrictions:
"What I proposed would allow a woman to end
her pregnancy at any time for any reason,
but would place restrictions on the methods."
<rayCJBvtr....@netcom.com>
methods of restricting abortion:
"Any method that allows saving the life of the fetus without
placing the mother at significant additional risk."
<rayCJE1K1....@netcom.com>
prison:
"What punishment? I'd consider a deliberate killing of a fetus to be
manslaughter, with the penalties appropriate to that crime. And
yes, that does mean throwing the would-be mother in jail should she
be so convicted. While putting mothers in jail sounds nasty, I
don't think that women should be treated like children just because
they are pregnant. I expect _equal_ justice under the law."
Ray Fischer (r...@netcom.com) in
article1992Nov17.052121.2...@netcom.com>
fischer is still running away from these.
=====end restoer unmarked deletion
They dont' exist,
sure they do. i replaced them above where you had deleted them. i';;
bet you fooled a lot of folks with that one. *smitk*
you anti-choice cowards are all the same.
===end restore unmarked deletion
'
keegan is off on one of his obsessive smear campaigns and has been
repeatedly lying about my position.
do tell readers how quoting your anti-choice stance is lying.
I am pro-choice.
do tell readers how you are a pro-choicer who supports anti-choice
abortion restrictions even to the point of imprisoning women who have
abortions.
keegan, is a bizarre attempt to ingratiate himself with pro-abortion
extremists, has been attacking people who doesn't support his extremist
position
really? can you show a single pro-choicer whom i have attacked?
run away from this claim as you have run away from so many others.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: keegan, still a pro-abortion pervert |
26 Dec 2006 02:50:21 PM |
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james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <459171ad$0$80107$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <458efb49$0$80107$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
ray fischer's anti-choice positions have long been a topic of
discussion.
====begin restore unmarked deletion
in 1994, Linda Birmingham asked:
===begin restore unmarked deletion
===begin restore unmarked deletion
keegan is off on one of his obsessive smear campaigns and has been
repeatedly lying about my position.
I am pro-choice. I always have been. There is a decade of posts from
me to prove that fact. Even words quoted by keegan prove that fact.
In a bizarre exmaple of insane dislogic, keegan claims that supporting
a woman's right to end her pregnancy at any time and for any reason is
somehow forcing her to give birth.
In a bizarre attempt to ingratiate himself with pro-abortion extremists,
he has been attacking people who don't support his extremist position of
no restrictions whatever on abortion - even to the point fo demanding
a right to kill a health, full-term fetus.
In his attacks he resorts to transparent lies what are even contradicted
by the very quotes he provides. When challenged he simply repeats the lies
and refuses to answer any questions. He mangles text and edits people
words whenever he cannot handle the facts.
The conclusion is that keegan is just a sorry control freak who can do
little but smear people.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: keegan, still a pro-abortion pervert |
26 Dec 2006 03:02:36 PM |
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In article <45918b0d$0$80042$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <459171ad$0$80107$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <458efb49$0$80107$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
ray fischer's anti-choice positions have long been a topic of
discussion.
====begin restore unmarked deletion
in 1994, Linda Birmingham asked:
===begin restore unmarked deletion
===begin restore unmarked deletion
keegan is
fischer is off on one of his obsessive smear campaigns and has been
repeatedly lying about my position, and about his own anti-choice
stance. proof of fischer's anti-choice positions is appended at the
conclusion of this post.
i am pro-choice. i always have been. there is a decade and a half
of posts from me to prove that fact. even words quoted by fischer
prove that fact.
in a bizarre example of insane dislogic, fischer claims that
supporting abortion restrictions is not forcing a woman to give
birth.
in a bizarre attempt to ingratiate himself with anti-choice
extremists, he has been attacking people who don't support his
abortion restrictions by lying and falsely claiming his adversaries
want the right to kill a health, full-term fetus, something
anti-choicers have wailed since the abortion newsgroups were formed.
In his attacks, fischer resorts to transparent lies what are even
contradicted by the very quotes he provides.
The conclusion is that fischer is just a misogynist control freak
who can do little but name-call.
restricting the methods of abortion has the same effect as
restricting abortion; even completely preventing it in some cases.
restricting the methods of abortion, once accepted as a concept, can
lead to any number of new and more restrictive abortion restrictions.
abortion restrictions:
"What I proposed would allow a woman to end
her pregnancy at any time for any reason,
but would place restrictions on the methods."
<rayCJBvtr....@netcom.com>
methods of restricting abortion:
"Any method that allows saving the life of the fetus without
placing the mother at significant additional risk."
<rayCJE1K1....@netcom.com>
prison:
"What punishment? I'd consider a deliberate killing of a fetus to be
manslaughter, with the penalties appropriate to that crime. And yes,
that does mean throwing the would-be mother in jail should she be so
convicted. While putting mothers in jail sounds nasty, I don't think
that women should be treated like children just because they are
pregnant. I expect _equal_ justice under the law."
Ray Fischer (r...@netcom.com) in
article1992Nov17.052121.2...@netcom.com>
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: ray fischer, still an anti-choice pervert |
26 Dec 2006 03:07:18 PM |
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In article <45918b0d$0$80042$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <459171ad$0$80107$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <458efb49$0$80107$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
ray fischer's anti-choice positions have long been a topic of
discussion.
====begin restore unmarked deletion
in 1994, Linda Birmingham asked:
===begin restore unmarked deletion
===begin restore unmarked deletion
keegan is
fischer is off on one of his obsessive smear campaigns and has been
repeatedly lying about my position, and about his own anti-choice
stance. proof of fischer's anti-choice positions is appended at the
conclusion of this post.
i am pro-choice. i always have been. there is a decade and a half
of posts from me to prove that fact. even words quoted by fischer
prove that fact.
in a bizarre example of insane dislogic, fischer claims that
supporting abortion restrictions is not forcing a woman to give
birth.
in a bizarre attempt to ingratiate himself with anti-choice
extremists, he has been attacking people who don't support his
abortion restrictions by lying and falsely claiming his adversaries
want the right to kill a health, full-term fetus, something
anti-choicers have wailed since the abortion newsgroups were formed.
In his attacks, fischer resorts to transparent lies what are even
contradicted by the very quotes he provides.
The conclusion is that fischer is just a misogynist control freak
who can do little but name-call.
restricting the methods of abortion has the same effect as
restricting abortion; even completely preventing it in some cases.
restricting the methods of abortion, once accepted as a concept, can
lead to any number of new and more restrictive abortion restrictions.
abortion restrictions:
"What I proposed would allow a woman to end
her pregnancy at any time for any reason,
but would place restrictions on the methods."
<rayCJBvtr....@netcom.com>
methods of restricting abortion:
"Any method that allows saving the life of the fetus without
placing the mother at significant additional risk."
<rayCJE1K1....@netcom.com>
prison:
"What punishment? I'd consider a deliberate killing of a fetus to be
manslaughter, with the penalties appropriate to that crime. And yes,
that does mean throwing the would-be mother in jail should she be so
convicted. While putting mothers in jail sounds nasty, I don't think
that women should be treated like children just because they are
pregnant. I expect _equal_ justice under the law."
Ray Fischer (r...@netcom.com) in
article1992Nov17.052121.2...@netcom.com>
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: james, still an anti-choice pervert and thief |
26 Dec 2006 03:11:16 PM |
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james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <45918b0d$0$80042$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <459171ad$0$80107$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <458efb49$0$80107$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
ray fischer's anti-choice positions have long been a topic of
discussion.
====begin restore unmarked deletion
in 1994, Linda Birmingham asked:
===begin restore unmarked deletion
===begin restore unmarked deletion
keegan is
fischer is off on one of his obsessive smear campaigns and has been
keegan is off on one of his obsessive smear campaigns and has been
repeatedly lying about my position.
I am pro-choice. I always have been. There is a decade of posts from
me to prove that fact. Even words quoted by keegan prove that fact.
In a bizarre exmaple of insane dislogic, keegan claims that supporting
a woman's right to end her pregnancy at any time and for any reason is
somehow forcing her to give birth.
In a bizarre attempt to ingratiate himself with pro-abortion extremists,
he has been attacking people who don't support his extremist position of
no restrictions whatever on abortion - even to the point fo demanding
a right to kill a health, full-term fetus.
In his attacks he resorts to transparent lies what are even contradicted
by the very quotes he provides. When challenged he simply repeats the lies
and refuses to answer any questions. He mangles text and edits people
words whenever he cannot handle the facts.
The conclusion is that keegan is just a sorry control freak who can do
little but smear people. But that's hardly a surprise given that this
is some example of how he debates...
the thing is, you really enjoyed being pissed on,
didn't you?
keegan in <3jn1m2$jrh@usenet.rpi.edu>
did someone say that you were
jerking off in mcclatchie's pink footsie pajamas?
keegan in <3kdpke$8cd@usenet.rpi.edu>
masturbating as you watched?
keegan in <3l1uca$khu@usenet.rpi.edu>
watching a death is what turns you on, eh?
have you tried it with a plastic bag over your head?
keegan in <3lh31j$612@usenet.rpi.edu>
does that make you jealous? a bit sexually excited?
keegan in <D6Jn2H.1zI@news.wizvax.net>
do you jerk off when you defend ralph taite? do
you jerk off more when you read his posts about
slapping women around? do you like to slap women
around?
keegan in <3b8oi5$laj@usenet.rpi.edu>
do you jerk off when you think about dead mommies?
keegan in <jkeeganDD8Czs.ExJ@netcom.com>
do you get excited?
keegan in <jkeeganDCwn6z.G4r@netcom.com>
playing with yourself again, sonny?
keegan in <jkeeganDCzqBu.Asv@netcom.com>
do you jerk off when you think of mutilating someone?
keegan in <3jbb7a$i0i@usenet.rpi.edu>
did you get a hard on when you thought of violence?
keegan in <3jdn01$mmj@usenet.rpi.edu>
do you lick your lips and get a hard on when you think
about people whom you judge to be something or other
you don't like?
keegan in <3je1f2$s7j@usenet.rpi.edu>
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: ray fischer still an anti-choice pervert and thief |
26 Dec 2006 03:12:34 PM |
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In article <45918ff4$0$80066$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <45918b0d$0$80042$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <459171ad$0$80107$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <458efb49$0$80107$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
ray fischer's anti-choice positions have long been a topic of
discussion.
====begin restore unmarked deletion
in 1994, Linda Birmingham asked:
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keegan is
fischer is off on one of his obsessive smear campaigns and has been
keegan is
fischer is off on one of his obsessive smear campaigns and has been
repeatedly lying about my position, and about his own anti-choice
stance. proof of fischer's anti-choice positions is appended at the
conclusion of this post.
i am pro-choice. i always have been. there is a decade and a half
of posts from me to prove that fact. even words quoted by fischer
prove that fact.
in a bizarre example of insane dislogic, fischer claims that
supporting abortion restrictions is not forcing a woman to give
birth.
in a bizarre attempt to ingratiate himself with anti-choice
extremists, he has been attacking people who don't support his
abortion restrictions by lying and falsely claiming his adversaries
want the right to kill a health, full-term fetus, something
anti-choicers have wailed since the abortion newsgroups were formed.
In his attacks, fischer resorts to transparent lies what are even
contradicted by the very quotes he provides.
The conclusion is that fischer is just a misogynist control freak
who can do little but name-call.
restricting the methods of abortion has the same effect as
restricting abortion; even completely preventing it in some cases.
restricting the methods of abortion, once accepted as a concept, can
lead to any number of new and more restrictive abortion restrictions.
abortion restrictions:
"What I proposed would allow a woman to end
her pregnancy at any time for any reason,
but would place restrictions on the methods."
<rayCJBvtr....@netcom.com>
methods of restricting abortion:
"Any method that allows saving the life of the fetus without
placing the mother at significant additional risk."
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prison:
"What punishment? I'd consider a deliberate killing of a fetus to be
manslaughter, with the penalties appropriate to that crime. And yes,
that does mean throwing the would-be mother in jail should she be so
convicted. While putting mothers in jail sounds nasty, I don't think
that women should be treated like children just because they are
pregnant. I expect _equal_ justice under the law."
Ray Fischer (r...@netcom.com) in
article1992Nov17.052121.2...@netcom.com>
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