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Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:12:59 PM
Object: Re: Swing of the Pendulum
Ed wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Ed <nesorde@comcast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Ed <nesorde@comcast.net> wrote:



You're "bleeding heart" would be much more believable if you
considered
the
fact that the Palestinians are the ones who cause their own
misery.



The excuse of the terrorist: "They made me do it."



Yeah.... so why do you keep using that excuse?



Why are you such a chickenshit little coward? Can't you even take
responsiblity for your own words? YOU used that excuse.



No, that was YOUR interpretation of what I said.



"the Palestinians are the ones who cause their own misery"

Your words. Israel has the Palestinians under military rule, and yet
you try to blame them for being oppressed.

Just like terrorists blame their victims.


Never mind that Israel is an occupying force that puts the
Palestinians under military rule,



Lie #1 - You can't "occupy" that which is already yours.



The West Bank and Gaza are no more a part of Israel than Poland was
part of Nazi Germany.



Oh.... well then.... see if you can get Jordan and Egypt into
taking those



Israel has never annexed the West Bank. It is not part of Israel.
Israel is an occupying force.


Lie #2 - The Israelis have given the Palestinians every
opportunity to
have
their own state,



That's an obvious lie given the fact that Israel has not withdrawn
its troops from the West Bank and has actually expended illegal
settlements in the West Bank.



Liar.



It's all easily verified fact.



If that's so, where is your "verification?"



Dear President Bush:

I am writing to you with respect to multiple Israeli announcements
of its plans to continue expanding settlements in the Occupied
Palestinian Territories (OPT). This directly contravenes
international law and Israeli commitments under the Road Map.
...

Sarah Leah Whitson
Executive Director, Middle East North Africa Division
Human Rights Watch


http://domino.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/f5b4434d0130434d852570f4006cdd8a?OpenDocument



If Israel accepted Palestines right to exist then the dispute
would
be over. But Israel would rather have land than peace, and the
result
is that people keep dying.


The Israelis have done that ages ago.



The West Bank is still under Israeli military occupation.



Ownership. The land is Israeli.



Just like Poland was part of Nazi Germany.



Apples and oranges, Mister Straw Man.



Run away, Mister Genocide.

Israel has not annexed the West Bank.




Nonetheless, Israel is the ONLY power that has the option to do with
the WB as it pleases, since Jordan obviously wants nothing to do with it.

That is why the injustice continues in the Holy Land. There needs to be
a Peacekeeping force to ensure the rights of all persons in the WB and
Jerusalem. Occupation by a multinational, multiethnic/religious force
is the only way forward. If the IsReeLis want to argue, level their
asses. Shock & Awe, baby, just like Baghdad!
:-)

Besides, the "Palestinians" want their own state, remember? Isn't
that what all the fuss is about? Why the hell should Israel annex a
land full of people who don't want to be Israelis?

Then let the people go. Get your joo asses back to your side of the
Green Line and build your wall there. Palestine would then be able to
prosper in freedom from your occupation jackboots, you Zionazi thug.



It is not part of Israel.

You can repeat your lies but that will not make them true.




Straw man.

Not at all. You don't even know the definition of the fallacy.
Details concerning logical fallacies here:
http://www.fallacyfiles.org/index.html
;D




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