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07 Nov 2003 10:30:18 AM |
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Re: a REAL VIEW of just HOW Bad Gore Lost |
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
http://www.esri.com/mapmuseum/mapbook_gallery/volume16/business1.html
Take a look at the 2000 Election map for U.S. counties, and get the REAL
picture of just how bad Gore lost.
Yeah, he "lost" by getting 500,000 more votes than did Bush.
Stupid *****.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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07 Nov 2003 10:50:48 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
http://www.esri.com/mapmuseum/mapbook_gallery/volume16/business1.html
Take a look at the 2000 Election map for U.S. counties, and get the REAL
picture of just how bad Gore lost.
Yeah, he "lost" by getting 500,000 more votes than did Bush.
Stupid *****.
False, every recount showed Bush won.
Get lost loser. You liberals are going to continue losing
Democrats, at least sensible ones, are spacing themselves from liberals like
yourself.
Hey, watch Dean...he is really putting his foot in his mouth...LOL
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08 Nov 2003 12:47:26 AM |
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Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
http://www.esri.com/mapmuseum/mapbook_gallery/volume16/business1.html
Take a look at the 2000 Election map for U.S. counties, and get the REAL
picture of just how bad Gore lost.
Yeah, he "lost" by getting 500,000 more votes than did Bush.
Stupid *****.
False, every recount showed Bush won.
You're insane.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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08 Nov 2003 08:02:36 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
http://www.esri.com/mapmuseum/mapbook_gallery/volume16/business1.html
Take a look at the 2000 Election map for U.S. counties, and get the
REAL
picture of just how bad Gore lost.
Yeah, he "lost" by getting 500,000 more votes than did Bush.
Stupid *****.
False, every recount showed Bush won.
You're insane.
Gore lost
End of story. History. Put it to rest
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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07 Nov 2003 10:53:17 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
http://www.esri.com/mapmuseum/mapbook_gallery/volume16/business1.html
Take a look at the 2000 Election map for U.S. counties, and get the REAL
picture of just how bad Gore lost.
Yeah, he "lost" by getting 500,000 more votes than did Bush.
Technically, he lost by getting 5 fewer votes than Bush did. (271-266)
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07 Nov 2003 10:55:59 AM |
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"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
http://www.esri.com/mapmuseum/mapbook_gallery/volume16/business1.html
Take a look at the 2000 Election map for U.S. counties, and get the
REAL
picture of just how bad Gore lost.
Yeah, he "lost" by getting 500,000 more votes than did Bush.
Technically, he lost by getting 5 fewer votes than Bush did. (271-266)
And if you look at that link, actually I have a better one, you get a much
BIGGER picture of just how much trouble Democrats are in.
http://www.polidata.org/maps/Cy00p1cb.gif
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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07 Nov 2003 11:03:13 AM |
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Osprey wrote:
"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3FABCE00.586DD2F7@citlink.net...
Ray Fischer wrote:
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
http://www.esri.com/mapmuseum/mapbook_gallery/volume16/business1.html
Take a look at the 2000 Election map for U.S. counties, and get the
REAL
picture of just how bad Gore lost.
Yeah, he "lost" by getting 500,000 more votes than did Bush.
Technically, he lost by getting 5 fewer votes than Bush did. (271-266)
And if you look at that link, actually I have a better one, you get a much
BIGGER picture of just how much trouble Democrats are in.
http://www.polidata.org/maps/Cy00p1cb.gif
In other news, the job market numbers are starting to show the expected
improvement:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/BUSINESS/11/07/jobs.october/index.html
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07 Nov 2003 11:42:21 AM |
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"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3FABD055.17743350@citlink.net...
Osprey wrote:
"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3FABCE00.586DD2F7@citlink.net...
Ray Fischer wrote:
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
http://www.esri.com/mapmuseum/mapbook_gallery/volume16/business1.html
Take a look at the 2000 Election map for U.S. counties, and get the
REAL
picture of just how bad Gore lost.
Yeah, he "lost" by getting 500,000 more votes than did Bush.
Technically, he lost by getting 5 fewer votes than Bush did. (271-266)
And if you look at that link, actually I have a better one, you get a
much
BIGGER picture of just how much trouble Democrats are in.
http://www.polidata.org/maps/Cy00p1cb.gif
In other news, the job market numbers are starting to show the expected
improvement:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/BUSINESS/11/07/jobs.october/index.html
Frank,
just like we have been saying all along.
The job market numbers are usually ALWAYS the last part to start showing
improvement in a real economic recovery.
The Democrats are going to have to lay off their arguments now about Bush
and the Economy. They just can't win that argument any longer.
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07 Nov 2003 01:58:24 PM |
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"Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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The Democrats are going to have to lay off their arguments now about
Bush
and the Economy. They just can't win that argument any longer.
Why? You actually believe the US economy is in good shape?
The economy has lost approximately 3 million jobs under Bush, and has
recently gained back perhaps 10% of those losses. The unemployment
rate has dropped from 6.1% to 6%, hardly reason for a party. Some
125,000 jobs came back last month, but 150,000 - 200,000 per month are
required just to absorb new entrants into the work force. Much of the
recent job gains are a result of the artificially high growth that
resulted from a one time infusion of cash into the economy through
massive tax cuts paid for with borrowed money. Deficits are at record
levels this year. Another near-record deficit is projected for next
year. There is a mind boggling trade deficit that is continuing to
grow at an unprecedented rate. This is exerting strong downward
pressure on the dollar, reducing the real value of US assets. The P/E
ratio of the Dow is still at insane levels. Personal debt is at record
highs, for the first time averaging higher than annual income. Real
income growth is stagnant, and has been for some time. The country is
mired in an unwinnable war in Iraq that is going to end up costing
hundreds of billions of dollars. Not only that, the President has
engaged the country in perpetuity in another unwinnable war against a
faceless, nameless enemy called "terrorism". Bush's foreign policy has
actually raised the spectre of terrorism, and this is another
unaccounted for "note" on the country's balance sheet. While it's
likely we will see some continued growth in GDP in the next few
quarters (although at a more modest rate), this is only because the
economy has "bottomed out". The indicators do not support the notion
that this recent "good news" is sustainable over any significant
period of time.
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07 Nov 2003 04:10:33 PM |
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"wg bradley" <wgb@bogus.ca> wrote in message
news:APSqb.336088$pl3.32668@pd7tw3no...
"Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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The Democrats are going to have to lay off their arguments now about
Bush
and the Economy. They just can't win that argument any longer.
Why? You actually believe the US economy is in good shape?
I believe it is, and I believe it is getting better.
The economy has lost approximately 3 million jobs under Bush, and has
recently gained back perhaps 10% of those losses. The unemployment
rate has dropped from 6.1% to 6%, hardly reason for a party. Some
125,000 jobs came back last month, but 150,000 - 200,000 per month are
required just to absorb new entrants into the work force. Much of the
recent job gains are a result of the artificially high growth that
resulted from a one time infusion of cash into the economy through
massive tax cuts paid for with borrowed money. Deficits are at record
levels this year.
These are tactics liberals are going to use. It isn't going to work.
First off most American's could care LESS about the deficits. Unless you
are talking about something that is actually hitting their wallet.
Bush has given people back MORE money, people are spending, housing
development is up, stock market is doing great, jobless rates are going
down.
And with in the next year, things get better, dems in trouble.
Another near-record deficit is projected for next
year. There is a mind boggling trade deficit that is continuing to
grow at an unprecedented rate. This is exerting strong downward
pressure on the dollar, reducing the real value of US assets. The P/E
ratio of the Dow is still at insane levels. Personal debt is at record
highs,
Uh, take a look at bankruptcy rates in the 90's. Reached record levels.
That was happening before Bush.
Can't blame Bush for people using so much credit.
for the first time averaging higher than annual income. Real
income growth is stagnant, and has been for some time. The country is
mired in an unwinnable war in Iraq that is going to end up costing
hundreds of billions of dollars. Not only that, the President has
engaged the country in perpetuity in another unwinnable war against a
faceless, nameless enemy called "terrorism".
Actually all polls indicate American's don't want another president that
isn't going to continue fighting.
Bush has the guts to stand up and fight.
We are witnessing a nation being brought into a democracy and freedom given
to people who have never experienced freedom.
Of course I guess liberals don't want to see that happening.
Bush's foreign policy has
actually raised the spectre of terrorism, and this is another
unaccounted for "note" on the country's balance sheet.
Oh yea, I see terrorist all over the world blowing things up.
Right now terrorist, like most liberals, are frantic and attacking in Iraq
because they too don't want democracy. Because their method has always been
oppression and keeping the people scared. Now people in the middle east are
getting a taste of freedom, they like it.
Yes there are problems in Iraq, they are isolated, for the most part, most
of the region is moving along. Too bad the press likes to focus on the
negative and not the positive.
As our senators recently discovered not too long ago.
While it's
likely we will see some continued growth in GDP in the next few
quarters (although at a more modest rate), this is only because the
economy has "bottomed out". The indicators do not support the notion
that this recent "good news" is sustainable over any significant
period of time.
Dems are in trouble, no matter what you think. Bush's tax cuts are working.
With Clinton we had over inflated numbers, the dot.com industry going.
Those things help cause the problems we had after he left.
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08 Nov 2003 12:48:30 AM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote:
Osprey wrote:
"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3FABCE00.586DD2F7@citlink.net...
Ray Fischer wrote:
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
http://www.esri.com/mapmuseum/mapbook_gallery/volume16/business1.html
Take a look at the 2000 Election map for U.S. counties, and get the
REAL
picture of just how bad Gore lost.
Yeah, he "lost" by getting 500,000 more votes than did Bush.
Technically, he lost by getting 5 fewer votes than Bush did. (271-266)
And if you look at that link, actually I have a better one, you get a much
BIGGER picture of just how much trouble Democrats are in.
http://www.polidata.org/maps/Cy00p1cb.gif
In other news, the job market numbers are starting to show the expected
improvement:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/BUSINESS/11/07/jobs.october/index.html
Thanks to a massive increase in government spending.
And so what if Social Security is destroyed as a result.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "osprey" |
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08 Nov 2003 04:43:19 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<boi3ju$a97$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote:
Osprey wrote:
"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3FABCE00.586DD2F7@citlink.net...
Ray Fischer wrote:
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
http://www.esri.com/mapmuseum/mapbook_gallery/volume16/business1.html
Take a look at the 2000 Election map for U.S. counties, and get the
REAL
picture of just how bad Gore lost.
Yeah, he "lost" by getting 500,000 more votes than did Bush.
Technically, he lost by getting 5 fewer votes than Bush did. (271-266)
And if you look at that link, actually I have a better one, you get a much
BIGGER picture of just how much trouble Democrats are in.
http://www.polidata.org/maps/Cy00p1cb.gif
In other news, the job market numbers are starting to show the expected
improvement:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/BUSINESS/11/07/jobs.october/index.html
Thanks to a massive increase in government spending.
And so what if Social Security is destroyed as a result.
Ahh, there goes Ray trying to find something else to ***** about since
he can't ***** about economy and jobless rate any longer
Social Security is destroyed? That is the 25 year old argument.
How about this Ray. You liberals start teaching people to not have to
depend on Social Security. How to save for their retirement, invest,
and consider SS as nothing more than a supliment.
Oh wait, that would mean you would have to teach people not to depend
on Government. Can't do that can you. That is liberal 101, tell
people they have to depend on government to take care of them.
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08 Nov 2003 01:52:17 PM |
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osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<boi3ju$a97$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote:
Osprey wrote:
"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3FABCE00.586DD2F7@citlink.net...
Ray Fischer wrote:
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
http://www.esri.com/mapmuseum/mapbook_gallery/volume16/business1.html
Take a look at the 2000 Election map for U.S. counties, and get the
REAL
picture of just how bad Gore lost.
Yeah, he "lost" by getting 500,000 more votes than did Bush.
Technically, he lost by getting 5 fewer votes than Bush did. (271-266)
And if you look at that link, actually I have a better one, you get a much
BIGGER picture of just how much trouble Democrats are in.
http://www.polidata.org/maps/Cy00p1cb.gif
In other news, the job market numbers are starting to show the expected
improvement:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/BUSINESS/11/07/jobs.october/index.html
Thanks to a massive increase in government spending.
And so what if Social Security is destroyed as a result.
Ahh, there goes Ray trying to find something else to ***** about since
he can't ***** about economy and jobless rate any longer
The US is down about three million jobs since Bush took office.
The latest increase in hiring amount to maybe 2% of the number of jobs
lost.
Social Security is destroyed? That is the 25 year old argument.
Already the US spends 25% of federal income taxes on interest payment
on the debt. Soon it will be 30%. What happens when it hits 60%?
What will have to be cut? Military spending? Default on the loans?
Or eliminate Social Security?
How about this Ray. You liberals start teaching people to not have to
depend on Social Security.
Yeah, you with your government pension sure don't have to worry about
other people getting screwed out of their Social Security.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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08 Nov 2003 03:16:32 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:bojhhh$8bl$1@bolt.sonic.net...
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message
news:<boi3ju$a97$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote:
Osprey wrote:
"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3FABCE00.586DD2F7@citlink.net...
Ray Fischer wrote:
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
http://www.esri.com/mapmuseum/mapbook_gallery/volume16/business1.html
Take a look at the 2000 Election map for U.S. counties, and get
the
REAL
picture of just how bad Gore lost.
Yeah, he "lost" by getting 500,000 more votes than did Bush.
Technically, he lost by getting 5 fewer votes than Bush did.
(271-266)
And if you look at that link, actually I have a better one, you get
a much
BIGGER picture of just how much trouble Democrats are in.
http://www.polidata.org/maps/Cy00p1cb.gif
In other news, the job market numbers are starting to show the
expected
improvement:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/BUSINESS/11/07/jobs.october/index.html
Thanks to a massive increase in government spending.
And so what if Social Security is destroyed as a result.
Ahh, there goes Ray trying to find something else to ***** about since
he can't ***** about economy and jobless rate any longer
The US is down about three million jobs since Bush took office.
The latest increase in hiring amount to maybe 2% of the number of jobs
lost.
Social Security is destroyed? That is the 25 year old argument.
Already the US spends 25% of federal income taxes on interest payment
on the debt. Soon it will be 30%. What happens when it hits 60%?
What will have to be cut? Military spending? Default on the loans?
Or eliminate Social Security?
How about this Ray. You liberals start teaching people to not have to
depend on Social Security.
Yeah, you with your government pension sure don't have to worry about
other people getting screwed out of their Social Security.
With my government pension?
Well first off your hatred towards vets is not my problem
Second I earned it
Third, I saved my own money and still saving and investing towards those
golden years when I can get in my 30 ft motor home and tour this great
nation.
I will beep when I ride by you...:o)
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09 Nov 2003 09:17:47 AM |
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Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Social Security is destroyed? That is the 25 year old argument.
Already the US spends 25% of federal income taxes on interest payment
on the debt. Soon it will be 30%. What happens when it hits 60%?
What will have to be cut? Military spending? Default on the loans?
Or eliminate Social Security?
How about this Ray. You liberals start teaching people to not have to
depend on Social Security.
Yeah, you with your government pension sure don't have to worry about
other people getting screwed out of their Social Security.
With my government pension?
Well first off your hatred towards vets is not my problem
Second I earned it
Oink, oink, little piggy.
By the way, people have PAID for Social Security. What happens when
the US government can't even give people back their own money?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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09 Nov 2003 12:52:48 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:bollqr$2t0$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Social Security is destroyed? That is the 25 year old argument.
Already the US spends 25% of federal income taxes on interest payment
on the debt. Soon it will be 30%. What happens when it hits 60%?
What will have to be cut? Military spending? Default on the loans?
Or eliminate Social Security?
How about this Ray. You liberals start teaching people to not have to
depend on Social Security.
Yeah, you with your government pension sure don't have to worry about
other people getting screwed out of their Social Security.
With my government pension?
Well first off your hatred towards vets is not my problem
Second I earned it
Oink, oink, little piggy.
By the way, people have PAID for Social Security. What happens when
the US government can't even give people back their own money?
What the hell do you expect me to do about that Ray?
Stop your damn bitching, grow up
You are starting to sound like some of the inmates I am in charge of. Crying
over everything, complaining, and doing nothing about it.
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09 Nov 2003 06:40:14 PM |
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Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Social Security is destroyed? That is the 25 year old argument.
Already the US spends 25% of federal income taxes on interest payment
on the debt. Soon it will be 30%. What happens when it hits 60%?
What will have to be cut? Military spending? Default on the loans?
Or eliminate Social Security?
How about this Ray. You liberals start teaching people to not have to
depend on Social Security.
Yeah, you with your government pension sure don't have to worry about
other people getting screwed out of their Social Security.
With my government pension?
Well first off your hatred towards vets is not my problem
Second I earned it
Oink, oink, little piggy.
By the way, people have PAID for Social Security. What happens when
the US government can't even give people back their own money?
What the hell do you expect me to do about that Ray?
You're the greedy ***** that wants to spend the US into the hole.
Of course, like most right-wing morons you're utterly incapable of
being responsible for what you want. You want to spend hundreds of
billions of dollars "liberating" other countries but you want somebody
else to pay for it.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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09 Nov 2003 07:05:34 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:bommpe$abu$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Social Security is destroyed? That is the 25 year old argument.
Already the US spends 25% of federal income taxes on interest
payment
on the debt. Soon it will be 30%. What happens when it hits 60%?
What will have to be cut? Military spending? Default on the loans?
Or eliminate Social Security?
How about this Ray. You liberals start teaching people to not have
to
depend on Social Security.
Yeah, you with your government pension sure don't have to worry
about
other people getting screwed out of their Social Security.
With my government pension?
Well first off your hatred towards vets is not my problem
Second I earned it
Oink, oink, little piggy.
By the way, people have PAID for Social Security. What happens when
the US government can't even give people back their own money?
What the hell do you expect me to do about that Ray?
You're the greedy ***** that wants to spend the US into the hole.
Another lie
Of course, like most right-wing morons you're utterly incapable of
being responsible for what you want. You want to spend hundreds of
billions of dollars "liberating" other countries but you want somebody
else to pay for it.
Thanks Ray!!!
That is more to add to the collection proving your bigotry and hatred
towards fellow man, just because of what party he or she may choose.
Message-ID: <arp9tl$a4d$1@bolt.sonic.net>
24 Nov 2002
Many conservatives are scared of computers because they think they're
immoral.
Message-ID: <bci93t$jfu$1@bolt.sonic.net>
15 Jun 2003
He's a right-wing conservative and thus is incapable of accepting any
responsibility for his actions. He blames everybody else instead.
Message-ID: <bhod2d$f3u$1@bolt.sonic.net>
17 Aug 2003
Pat Winstanley said:
And selfish.
Ray Responds:
Which makes him a good Republican conservative.
Message-ID: <bnhl62$ukb$1@bolt.sonic.net>
Oct. 26, 2003
And so the right-wing moron ignores all the facts, declares victory,
and reinserts his head up his *****. A triumph of propaganda over truth
Message-ID: <bnhlel$usq$1@bolt.sonic.net>
Oct. 26, 2003
And so the right-wing fanatic lies outright in order to rationalize
his hatred.
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Oct. 31 2003
You're a stupid, right-wing, bigot.
Date: 1997/07/16
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Looks like you're another stupid right-wing bigot.
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01 Nov 2003
Like most right-wing conservatives you spend all your
time trying to blame others.
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Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 21:15:24 GMT
Step one (better): Refuse to give the Republican part ANY support
As is typical of extreme conservatives they are outraged when they are
told to treat people equally. They consider it their god-given right
to hate whatever people they like and excoriate anybody who dares to
stand up to their hatred.
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Who do you think keeps trying to regulate abortion? Who do
you think keeps calling for forced school prayer? Who keeps pushing
for censorship? The Republican right.
Pro-gun is a conservative Republican issue.
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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:33:02 GMT
You prove the theory that one has
to be stupid and ignorant in order to be a conservative Republican.
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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 06:37:02 GMT
It seems that in order to be a conservative Republican you
first have to be stupid.
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The right-wing Republican extremists want to force
everyone in school to put up with state-chosen public prayers.
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Yeah, we all know that the right-wing conservatives CANNOT tolerate
anything which challenges their religion.
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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:40:14 GMT
Of course, like most right-wing morons you're utterly incapable of
being responsible for what you want. You want to spend hundreds of
billions of dollars "liberating" other countries but you want somebody
else to pay for it.
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Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Social Security is destroyed? That is the 25 year old argument.
Already the US spends 25% of federal income taxes on interest
payment
on the debt. Soon it will be 30%. What happens when it hits 60%?
What will have to be cut? Military spending? Default on the loans?
Or eliminate Social Security?
How about this Ray. You liberals start teaching people to not have
to
depend on Social Security.
Yeah, you with your government pension sure don't have to worry
about
other people getting screwed out of their Social Security.
With my government pension?
Well first off your hatred towards vets is not my problem
Second I earned it
Oink, oink, little piggy.
By the way, people have PAID for Social Security. What happens when
the US government can't even give people back their own money?
What the hell do you expect me to do about that Ray?
You're the greedy ***** that wants to spend the US into the hole.
Another lie
Oh? So you think that taxes should be raised in order to pay for
Bush's invasion of Iraq? The current price tag is about $600 per
man, woman, and child in the country. That means that if you have
a family of four then Bush spent over two thousand dollars of your
money.
Why aren't you calling for higher taxes?
Of course, like most right-wing morons you're utterly incapable of
being responsible for what you want. You want to spend hundreds of
billions of dollars "liberating" other countries but you want somebody
else to pay for it.
Thanks Ray!!!
You're welcome.
That is more to add to the collection proving your bigotry and hatred
towards fellow man, just because of what party he or she may choose.
Snicker. There's more of that blaming everybody else for your own
lack of responsibility. If your political party spend the US trillions
of dollars into debt it must be "bigotry and hatred" to point it out.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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09 Nov 2003 08:03:02 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:bompro$e4q$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Social Security is destroyed? That is the 25 year old argument.
Already the US spends 25% of federal income taxes on interest
payment
on the debt. Soon it will be 30%. What happens when it hits
60%?
What will have to be cut? Military spending? Default on the
loans?
Or eliminate Social Security?
How about this Ray. You liberals start teaching people to not
have
to
depend on Social Security.
Yeah, you with your government pension sure don't have to worry
about
other people getting screwed out of their Social Security.
With my government pension?
Well first off your hatred towards vets is not my problem
Second I earned it
Oink, oink, little piggy.
By the way, people have PAID for Social Security. What happens when
the US government can't even give people back their own money?
What the hell do you expect me to do about that Ray?
You're the greedy ***** that wants to spend the US into the hole.
Another lie
Oh? So you think that taxes should be raised in order to pay for
Bush's invasion of Iraq?
Some taxes yea, I think foods that are unhealthy should be taxed,
cigarettes, alchohol.
Things that are not good for people, junk foods. Sure, tax them.
And also use the money from oil to help pay back and rebuild Iraq.
The current price tag is about $600 per
man, woman, and child in the country. That means that if you have
a family of four then Bush spent over two thousand dollars of your
money.
Money well worth it considering the mission we accomplished.
Why aren't you calling for higher taxes?
Because unlike you socialist liberals, I like to see people who work hard,
have more of their hard earned money in their pockets and not giving it to
government.
Of course, like most right-wing morons you're utterly incapable of
being responsible for what you want. You want to spend hundreds of
billions of dollars "liberating" other countries but you want somebody
else to pay for it.
Thanks Ray!!!
You're welcome.
That is more to add to the collection proving your bigotry and hatred
towards fellow man, just because of what party he or she may choose.
Snicker. There's more of that blaming everybody else for your own
lack of responsibility. If your political party spend the US trillions
of dollars into debt it must be "bigotry and hatred" to point it out.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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09 Nov 2003 10:14:19 PM |
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Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
By the way, people have PAID for Social Security. What happens when
the US government can't even give people back their own money?
What the hell do you expect me to do about that Ray?
You're the greedy ***** that wants to spend the US into the hole.
Another lie
Oh? So you think that taxes should be raised in order to pay for
Bush's invasion of Iraq?
Some taxes yea, I think foods that are unhealthy should be taxed,
cigarettes, alchohol.
Ah, so you want _other_ people to pay for the war that you want.
You DO want to spend the US into the hole, and again you're just
whining at the truth.
Things that are not good for people, junk foods.
Wars.
Sure, tax them.
Not nearly enough money. You need to find $600 for every man, woman,
and child in the country just for the first year in Iraq.
And also use the money from oil to help pay back and rebuild Iraq.
Make them pay for the destruction the US caused?
The current price tag is about $600 per
man, woman, and child in the country. That means that if you have
a family of four then Bush spent over two thousand dollars of your
money.
Money well worth it considering the mission we accomplished.
Especially since you obviously have no intention of paying any of it.
Why aren't you calling for higher taxes?
Because unlike you socialist liberals, I like to see people who work hard,
have more of their hard earned money in their pockets and not giving it to
government.
Oh, so you're one of those borrow-and-spend conservatives who thinks
that money just appears like magic.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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10 Nov 2003 04:25:52 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bon3aq$olo$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
By the way, people have PAID for Social Security. What happens when
the US government can't even give people back their own money?
What the hell do you expect me to do about that Ray?
You're the greedy ***** that wants to spend the US into the hole.
Another lie
Oh? So you think that taxes should be raised in order to pay for
Bush's invasion of Iraq?
Some taxes yea, I think foods that are unhealthy should be taxed,
cigarettes, alchohol.
Ah, so you want _other_ people to pay for the war that you want.
You DO want to spend the US into the hole, and again you're just
whining at the truth.
This is why liberals are losing elections. Moderate Democrats are
catching on too, to disassociate from liberals like you.
Attack, attack, attack, lie, distort. That is what you do. And why
no one wants to discuss issues with you.
What is it you want with raising taxes to pay for the war?
You want to increase federal income taxes?
get real Ray, I have always supported raising taxes on unhealthy
items.
with or with out the war.
Things that are not good for people, junk foods.
Wars.
Wars happen, a nation is liberated. Sorry you hate to see that.
Sure, tax them.
Not nearly enough money. You need to find $600 for every man, woman,
and child in the country just for the first year in Iraq.
Bull, the U.S. would raise probly hundreds of millions with taxes on
cigarettes, alchohol, junk foods.
And also use the money from oil to help pay back and rebuild Iraq.
Make them pay for the destruction the US caused?
The U.S. is fixing many of the areas that we have destroyed. If you
have been paying attention, which obviously you are not. Much of Iraq
is more normalized now. Hospitals, electric, water.
The U.S. should use the MILLIONS found in Saddams secret hiding
places.
The current price tag is about $600 per
man, woman, and child in the country. That means that if you have
a family of four then Bush spent over two thousand dollars of your
money.
Money well worth it considering the mission we accomplished.
Especially since you obviously have no intention of paying any of it.
Again, another lie
I don't mind paying my fair share in taxes.
Why aren't you calling for higher taxes?
Because unlike you socialist liberals, I like to see people who work hard,
have more of their hard earned money in their pockets and not giving it to
government.
Oh, so you're one of those borrow-and-spend conservatives who thinks
that money just appears like magic.
Nope, I am just one of those who believes the American worker's money
belongs to him or her, not one of those liberal socialist (you) who
believes they should give most of their hard earned money to
government.
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10 Nov 2003 10:13:32 AM |
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(osprey) wrote in message news:<8912d58d.0311100225.7610daa9@posting.google.com>...
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bon3aq$olo$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
By the way, people have PAID for Social Security. What happens when
the US government can't even give people back their own money?
What the hell do you expect me to do about that Ray?
You're the greedy ***** that wants to spend the US into the hole.
Another lie
Oh? So you think that taxes should be raised in order to pay for
Bush's invasion of Iraq?
Some taxes yea, I think foods that are unhealthy should be taxed,
cigarettes, alchohol.
Ah, so you want _other_ people to pay for the war that you want.
You DO want to spend the US into the hole, and again you're just
whining at the truth.
This is why liberals are losing elections. Moderate Democrats are
catching on too, to disassociate from liberals like you.
Attack, attack, attack, lie, distort. That is what you do. And why
no one wants to discuss issues with you.
Ohhh, so you think that people saying things like "Fischer, like all
the other pro-lying pro-aborts..." means they don't want to discuss
issues?
Wait a minute, that was you who said that, hypocrite...
[snip]
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11 Nov 2003 11:12:55 PM |
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osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bon3aq$olo$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
By the way, people have PAID for Social Security. What happens when
the US government can't even give people back their own money?
What the hell do you expect me to do about that Ray?
You're the greedy ***** that wants to spend the US into the hole.
Another lie
Oh? So you think that taxes should be raised in order to pay for
Bush's invasion of Iraq?
Some taxes yea, I think foods that are unhealthy should be taxed,
cigarettes, alchohol.
Ah, so you want _other_ people to pay for the war that you want.
You DO want to spend the US into the hole, and again you're just
whining at the truth.
This is why liberals are losing elections. Moderate Democrats are
catching on too, to disassociate from liberals like you.
And so the borrow-and-spend-and-kill loser tries to balme other people
for what he wants.
Attack, attack, attack, lie, distort.
What "attack"? You want to spend $600 for every man, woman, and child
in the country so that Iraq will be "liberated", but you dont' want to
pay for any of it.
What is it you want with raising taxes to pay for the war?
You want war. The price tag is $160,000,000,000. How do you think it
should be paid for?
You want to increase federal income taxes?
I didn't want the war in the first place. You did.
You figure out how to pay for it.
get real Ray, I have always supported raising taxes on unhealthy
items.
with or with out the war.
The bad news is that you cannot raise taxes enough on "unhealthy
items" to even begin to cover the cost of the war.
Things that are not good for people, junk foods.
Wars.
Wars happen,
Snicker. It were an "accident".
Sure, tax them.
Not nearly enough money. You need to find $600 for every man, woman,
and child in the country just for the first year in Iraq.
Bull, the U.S. would raise probly hundreds of millions with taxes on
cigarettes, alchohol, junk foods.
You're not too good with numbers, are you? "Hundreds of millions" is
only about a thousand times too small for what is needed to pay the
bill.
And also use the money from oil to help pay back and rebuild Iraq.
Make them pay for the destruction the US caused?
The U.S. is fixing many of the areas that we have destroyed.
And you want the Iraqis, who are already in debt amnd poor, to pay for
it?
The U.S. should use the MILLIONS found in Saddams secret hiding
places.
Loose change. Bush has spent $160 BILLION.
The current price tag is about $600 per
man, woman, and child in the country. That means that if you have
a family of four then Bush spent over two thousand dollars of your
money.
Money well worth it considering the mission we accomplished.
Especially since you obviously have no intention of paying any of it.
Again, another lie
You keep saying that other people should pay more taxes on "unhealthy
items."
I don't mind paying my fair share in taxes.
Family of four: $2400 for the war.
Why aren't you calling for higher taxes?
Because unlike you socialist liberals, I like to see people who work hard,
have more of their hard earned money in their pockets and not giving it to
government.
Oh, so you're one of those borrow-and-spend conservatives who thinks
that money just appears like magic.
Nope, I am just one of those who believes the American worker's money
belongs to him or her,
Then who is going to pay for wars and government and weapons?
The money will appear like magic?
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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08 Nov 2003 08:23:14 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote:
Osprey wrote:
"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3FABCE00.586DD2F7@citlink.net...
Ray Fischer wrote:
Osprey <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote:
http://www.esri.com/mapmuseum/mapbook_gallery/volume16/business1.html
Take a look at the 2000 Election map for U.S. counties, and get the
REAL
picture of just how bad Gore lost.
Yeah, he "lost" by getting 500,000 more votes than did Bush.
Technically, he lost by getting 5 fewer votes than Bush did. (271-266)
And if you look at that link, actually I have a better one, you get a much
BIGGER picture of just how much trouble Democrats are in.
http://www.polidata.org/maps/Cy00p1cb.gif
In other news, the job market numbers are starting to show the expected
improvement:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/BUSINESS/11/07/jobs.october/index.html
Thanks to a massive increase in government spending.
And so what if Social Security is destroyed as a result.
Care to elaborate?
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08 Nov 2003 01:56:54 PM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
In other news, the job market numbers are starting to show the expected
improvement:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/BUSINESS/11/07/jobs.october/index.html
Thanks to a massive increase in government spending.
And so what if Social Security is destroyed as a result.
Care to elaborate?
The US already spends 25% of every federal income tax dollar on interest
payments on the debt. When the economy recovers and interest rates go
up, so will the amount of money needed to cover the national debt.
When massive deficits add to that debt then the money available to run
the government will shrink, resulting in larger deficits, resulting in
larger debt, resulting in larger deficits...
There will be reached a point where taxes no longer are enough to both
pay minimal government expenses and make interest payments.
Argentina has already gone down that road. The result hasn't been
pretty.
Most people realize that living off of your credit cards is a sure way
to financial ruin. The current Republicans don't seem to understand
that.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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