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User: "Flower Power"
Date: 05 Jul 2004 08:22:54 PM
Object: Re: Angels of God back in Action
"Pastor Dave" <nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On 4 Jul 2004 06:26:23 -0700,
Groundandpound64@hotmail.com (Krazy K) posted thusly:


Other than impregnation via rape/incest, or to save
the mothers life, abortion is unnecessary.


It doesn't matter, even if that is the case. no
offense, but your statement is hypocrisy. Since when
is it a Christian act to kill the innocent, for the
crime of another?

Not everyone is a Christian. Why can't you deal with that? Even Christians
get abortions. Most people don't believe in your sky daddy anyway.

If she was raped, then kill the rapist, not the baby.

So force her to bear the rapist's unwanted fetus? Many women would commit
suicide before they would allow anyone to punish THEM in such a cruel way.

If it was incest, then kill the molester, not the baby.

So force her to bear the molester's unwanted fetus? Many women would commit
suicide before they would allow anyone to punish THEM in such a cruel way.
You're a true sadist and care nothing for the welfare for women/teenage
girls. Shame on you. No real Christian would be so cruel.
FP...
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User: "John Watson"

Title: Re: Angels of God back in Action 05 Jul 2004 08:55:16 PM
"Flower Power" <IndependantWomen@NOSlave.net> wrote in message
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"Pastor Dave" <nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On 4 Jul 2004 06:26:23 -0700,
Groundandpound64@hotmail.com (Krazy K) posted thusly:


Other than impregnation via rape/incest, or to save
the mothers life, abortion is unnecessary.


It doesn't matter, even if that is the case. no
offense, but your statement is hypocrisy. Since when
is it a Christian act to kill the innocent, for the
crime of another?


Not everyone is a Christian. Why can't you deal with that? Even
Christians
get abortions. Most people don't believe in your sky daddy anyway.

If she was raped, then kill the rapist, not the baby.


So force her to bear the rapist's unwanted fetus? Many women would commit
suicide before they would allow anyone to punish THEM in such a cruel way.

If it was incest, then kill the molester, not the baby.


So force her to bear the molester's unwanted fetus? Many women would
commit
suicide before they would allow anyone to punish THEM in such a cruel way.
You're a true sadist and care nothing for the welfare for women/teenage
girls. Shame on you. No real Christian would be so cruel.

News headline: There are no real Christians! Just deluded idiots.
What God would have anything to do with trash like phoney "astor" Dave or
KrazyK, answer, "The Lord of Flies". :)
John


FP...



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User: "Pastor Dave"

Title: Re: Angels of God back in Action 07 Jul 2004 10:43:45 AM
On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 20:22:54 -0500, "Flower Power"
<IndependantWomen@NOSlave.net> posted thusly:


"Pastor Dave" <nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On 4 Jul 2004 06:26:23 -0700,
Groundandpound64@hotmail.com (Krazy K) posted thusly:


Other than impregnation via rape/incest, or to save
the mothers life, abortion is unnecessary.


It doesn't matter, even if that is the case. no
offense, but your statement is hypocrisy. Since when
is it a Christian act to kill the innocent, for the
crime of another?


Not everyone is a Christian. Why can't you deal with that? Even Christians
get abortions. Most people don't believe in your sky daddy anyway.

If she was raped, then kill the rapist, not the baby.


So force her to bear the rapist's unwanted fetus? Many women would commit
suicide before they would allow anyone to punish THEM in such a cruel way.

If it was incest, then kill the molester, not the baby.


So force her to bear the molester's unwanted fetus? Many women would commit
suicide before they would allow anyone to punish THEM in such a cruel way.
You're a true sadist and care nothing for the welfare for women/teenage
girls. Shame on you. No real Christian would be so cruel.

Only one word comes to mind when reading your post.
"Selfishness".
--
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to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
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User: "Pastor Frank"

Title: Re: Angels of God back in Action 08 Jul 2004 06:39:15 AM
"Pastor Dave" <nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 20:22:54 -0500, "Flower Power"
<IndependantWomen@NOSlave.net> posted thusly:

"Pastor Dave" <nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6uege09erhkaukoshsemvgrai9vb3m0knl@4ax.com...

On 4 Jul 2004 06:26:23 -0700,
Groundandpound64@hotmail.com (Krazy K) posted thusly:


Other than impregnation via rape/incest, or to save
the mothers life, abortion is unnecessary.


It doesn't matter, even if that is the case. no
offense, but your statement is hypocrisy. Since when
is it a Christian act to kill the innocent, for the
crime of another?


Not everyone is a Christian. Why can't you deal with that? Even

Christians

get abortions. Most people don't believe in your sky daddy anyway.

If she was raped, then kill the rapist, not the baby.


So force her to bear the rapist's unwanted fetus? Many women would

commit

suicide before they would allow anyone to punish THEM in such a cruel

way.


If it was incest, then kill the molester, not the baby.


So force her to bear the molester's unwanted fetus? Many women would

commit

suicide before they would allow anyone to punish THEM in such a cruel

way.

You're a true sadist and care nothing for the welfare for women/teenage
girls. Shame on you. No real Christian would be so cruel.


Only one word comes to mind when reading your post.
"Selfishness".

It goes far beyond mere "selfishness", Dave, for abortion is killing the
most innocent party of the three, so that the other two can keep indulging
their lusts. It's an abomination whichever way you look at it.
Pastor Frank
Jesus in Matt. 7:12: "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men
should do to you, do ye even so to them...."
.
User: "Pastor Dave"

Title: Re: Angels of God back in Action 08 Jul 2004 05:41:02 PM
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 07:39:15 -0400, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> posted thusly:

You're a true sadist and care nothing for the welfare for women/teenage
girls. Shame on you. No real Christian would be so cruel.


Only one word comes to mind when reading your post.
"Selfishness".

It goes far beyond mere "selfishness", Dave, for abortion is killing the
most innocent party of the three, so that the other two can keep indulging
their lusts. It's an abomination whichever way you look at it.

I have an idea. Let's hold a lottery at each abortion,
before it's performed. We'll put some names in a jar
and draw to see who dies. One will have the name of
the mother. One the name of the father. One the name
of the doctor and one for each of the names of the
Supreme Court Justices who voted for the current
abortion law. Then we'll see how eager women are to
kill their babies.
--
± Pastor Dave Raymond ±
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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User: "Puck Greenman"

Title: Re: Angels of God back in Action 09 Jul 2004 07:49:20 AM
On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 18:41:02 -0400, Pastor Dave
<nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> with calm deliberation, and malace
aforethought, wrote:


I have an idea. Let's hold a lottery at each abortion,
before it's performed. We'll put some names in a jar
and draw to see who dies. One will have the name of
the mother. One the name of the father. One the name
of the doctor and one for each of the names of the
Supreme Court Justices who voted for the current
abortion law. Then we'll see how eager women are to
kill their babies.

A little one sided, this lottery of yours.
Let us even it up a bit, and then I might be inclined to say, "yes, go
ahead".
As you are so all fired set on killing those who do not see things
your way, it is the xtian way I suppose, for the sake of an unwanted,
non sentient, blob of cells, let us add the names of all those who
agree with *you, to the list. You must all have faith in your god, to
keep you safe, while you do it's will. If an anti choice, is chosen,
the abortion goes ahead, and we can assume that your god was in favour
of that. If OTOH, a pro-choice, dies, then the foetus is carried to
term, and as nothing happens without your god's will...
You are prepared to kill others for the sake of your beliefs, let's
see how many "christians" are willing to risk their own lives for the
sake of an unwanted blob of cells, the size of your thumb.
Every year, thousands of unwanted children are born, the products of
pain, superstitious ignorance, and poverty.
In every country in the world, there are thousands, perhaps millions,
of unwanted children, many of whom will never reach their teens.
Every city has it's street kids, few of whom will make it to adult
hood.
Find loving caring homes for all of those unwanted children who
already exist, and then we might be pre paired to consider your anti
choice, male dominance, anti humanitarian, anti feminist, rantings.
But not before.
So tell us: What have you done to relieve the suffering of those,
already existing, unwanted children? Apart from "advocating" child
slavery, that is?
How many have you fostered or adopted; how many have you given a home
to?
You can both answer.
Puck Greenman

#162

BAAWA Knight.

Blesed is the self righteous xtian,
for his is the sure and certain knowledge
that no matter what load of tripe he
comes out with:
God told him to say it.
.
User: "John Watson"

Title: Re: Angels of God back in Action 09 Jul 2004 11:47:02 PM
"Puck Greenman" <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote in message
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 18:41:02 -0400, Pastor Dave
<nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> with calm deliberation, and malace
aforethought, wrote:


I have an idea. Let's hold a lottery at each abortion,
before it's performed. We'll put some names in a jar
and draw to see who dies. One will have the name of
the mother. One the name of the father. One the name
of the doctor and one for each of the names of the
Supreme Court Justices who voted for the current
abortion law. Then we'll see how eager women are to
kill their babies.



A little one sided, this lottery of yours.
Let us even it up a bit, and then I might be inclined to say, "yes, go
ahead".
As you are so all fired set on killing those who do not see things
your way, it is the xtian way I suppose, for the sake of an unwanted,
non sentient, blob of cells, let us add the names of all those who
agree with *you, to the list. You must all have faith in your god, to
keep you safe, while you do it's will. If an anti choice, is chosen,
the abortion goes ahead, and we can assume that your god was in favour
of that. If OTOH, a pro-choice, dies, then the foetus is carried to
term, and as nothing happens without your god's will...
You are prepared to kill others for the sake of your beliefs, let's
see how many "christians" are willing to risk their own lives for the
sake of an unwanted blob of cells, the size of your thumb.

Every year, thousands of unwanted children are born, the products of
pain, superstitious ignorance, and poverty.
In every country in the world, there are thousands, perhaps millions,
of unwanted children, many of whom will never reach their teens.
Every city has it's street kids, few of whom will make it to adult
hood.

Find loving caring homes for all of those unwanted children who
already exist, and then we might be pre paired to consider your anti
choice, male dominance, anti humanitarian, anti feminist, rantings.
But not before.

So tell us: What have you done to relieve the suffering of those,
already existing, unwanted children? Apart from "advocating" child
slavery, that is?
How many have you fostered or adopted; how many have you given a home
to?

Crackpot phony "astor" Dave does nothing for anyone, he hopes that he will
be saved by faith alone.
Like most xians he talks the talk but doesn't walk the...
John


You can both answer.

Puck Greenman

#162

BAAWA Knight.

Blesed is the self righteous xtian,
for his is the sure and certain knowledge
that no matter what load of tripe he
comes out with:
God told him to say it.

.


User: "Mark Sebree"

Title: Re: Angels of God back in Action 08 Jul 2004 09:02:17 PM
Pastor Dave <nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<r7jre09pdmo4crnrjbtun198cuges4amd8@4ax.com>...

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 07:39:15 -0400, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> posted thusly:


You're a true sadist and care nothing for the welfare for women/teenage
girls. Shame on you. No real Christian would be so cruel.


Only one word comes to mind when reading your post.
"Selfishness".

It goes far beyond mere "selfishness", Dave, for abortion is killing the
most innocent party of the three, so that the other two can keep indulging
their lusts. It's an abomination whichever way you look at it.


I have an idea. Let's hold a lottery at each abortion,
before it's performed. We'll put some names in a jar
and draw to see who dies. One will have the name of
the mother. One the name of the father. One the name
of the doctor and one for each of the names of the
Supreme Court Justices who voted for the current
abortion law. Then we'll see how eager women are to
kill their babies.


--

± Pastor Dave Raymond ±

In that case, we should also include all the names of people that want
to make the woman suffer and endanger her life and health and future
by forcing her to continue her pregnancy against her will, people such
as you.
At least it will get rid of the anti-choice people quickly.
And all your suggestion would do is force abortions back underground,
an greatly increase the risk to the woman. However, given how little
you respect women, and people in general, that is probably what you
want.
BUSH MUST GO
IN 2004
Makr Sebree
.
User: "Bob"

Title: ABORTION=MURDER. DUH. 08 Jul 2004 09:38:58 PM
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote

In that case, we should also include all the names of people that want
to make the woman suffer and endanger her life and health and future
by forcing her to continue her pregnancy against her will, people such
as you.

The cases that actually endanger life and health are terribly small in
number. Her future? She should have thought about whether her career or
plans for a new car would suffer before she had that fifth daquiri and went
home with the curly-haired guy, uuuhhhhh, what's-his-name?!


At least it will get rid of the anti-choice people quickly.

No, you see, we don't kill our children before they are born; we
reproduce and replenish ourselves. You baby murderers will soon have
exterminated yourselves and then we Christians will give you all the Darwin
Award...... ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And all your suggestion would do is force abortions back underground,
an greatly increase the risk to the woman. However, given how little
you respect women, and people in general, that is probably what you
want.

If we didn't respect women, we wouldn't marry them, unlike you people
who bounce from bed to bed with nary a thought for tomorrow. And if we
didn't respect people in general, we'd tell =you= to go have sex with
yourself.


BUSH MUST GO
IN 2004

You wish! LOL!!!


Makr Sebree

Now what the heck can you do with a man who can't even spell his own
blankety-blank name?????????
Bob<><
.


User: "Joe Blow"

Title: Re: Angels of God back in Action 09 Jul 2004 12:36:20 PM
Pastor Dave <nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<r7jre09pdmo4crnrjbtun198cuges4amd8@4ax.com>...

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 07:39:15 -0400, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> posted thusly:


You're a true sadist and care nothing for the welfare for women/teenage
girls. Shame on you. No real Christian would be so cruel.


Only one word comes to mind when reading your post.
"Selfishness".

It goes far beyond mere "selfishness", Dave, for abortion is killing the
most innocent party of the three, so that the other two can keep indulging
their lusts. It's an abomination whichever way you look at it.


I have an idea. Let's hold a lottery at each abortion,
before it's performed. We'll put some names in a jar
and draw to see who dies. One will have the name of
the mother. One the name of the father. One the name
of the doctor and one for each of the names of the
Supreme Court Justices who voted for the current
abortion law. Then we'll see how eager women are to
kill their babies.

Sounds like you would have done well during the Inquesition.
Guess you haven't heard that Bush Jr apparently paid for an
abortion a couple of years before Roe v. Wade. At least
then it was a crime. Now what you advocate is a crime. I
guess that you would want to put God's name in your lottery
since he is responsible for most abortions by your definition.
Joe
.
User: "Bob"

Title: Re: Angels of God back in Action 09 Jul 2004 03:10:06 PM
"Joe Blow" <joeblow@volcanomail.com> wrote in message
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Pastor Dave <nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:<r7jre09pdmo4crnrjbtun198cuges4amd8@4ax.com>...

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 07:39:15 -0400, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> posted thusly:


You're a true sadist and care nothing for the welfare for

women/teenage

girls. Shame on you. No real Christian would be so cruel.


Only one word comes to mind when reading your post.
"Selfishness".

It goes far beyond mere "selfishness", Dave, for abortion is

killing the

most innocent party of the three, so that the other two can keep

indulging

their lusts. It's an abomination whichever way you look at it.


I have an idea. Let's hold a lottery at each abortion,
before it's performed. We'll put some names in a jar
and draw to see who dies. One will have the name of
the mother. One the name of the father. One the name
of the doctor and one for each of the names of the
Supreme Court Justices who voted for the current
abortion law. Then we'll see how eager women are to
kill their babies.


Sounds like you would have done well during the Inquesition.
Guess you haven't heard that Bush Jr apparently paid for an
abortion a couple of years before Roe v. Wade. At least
then it was a crime. Now what you advocate is a crime. I
guess that you would want to put God's name in your lottery
since he is responsible for most abortions by your definition.

Joe

Let's just fudge the lottery, and stuff the ballot box with JOE BLOW
.
User: "Joe Blow"

Title: Re: Angels of God back in Action 11 Jul 2004 09:39:50 AM
"Bob" <bob@bob.bob> wrote in message news:<yYCHc.8474$sD4.3406@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...

"Joe Blow" <joeblow@volcanomail.com> wrote in message
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Pastor Dave <nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:<r7jre09pdmo4crnrjbtun198cuges4amd8@4ax.com>...

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 07:39:15 -0400, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> posted thusly:


You're a true sadist and care nothing for the welfare for

women/teenage

girls. Shame on you. No real Christian would be so cruel.


Only one word comes to mind when reading your post.
"Selfishness".

It goes far beyond mere "selfishness", Dave, for abortion is

killing the

most innocent party of the three, so that the other two can keep

indulging

their lusts. It's an abomination whichever way you look at it.


I have an idea. Let's hold a lottery at each abortion,
before it's performed. We'll put some names in a jar
and draw to see who dies. One will have the name of
the mother. One the name of the father. One the name
of the doctor and one for each of the names of the
Supreme Court Justices who voted for the current
abortion law. Then we'll see how eager women are to
kill their babies.


Sounds like you would have done well during the Inquesition.
Guess you haven't heard that Bush Jr apparently paid for an
abortion a couple of years before Roe v. Wade. At least
then it was a crime. Now what you advocate is a crime. I
guess that you would want to put God's name in your lottery
since he is responsible for most abortions by your definition.

Joe


Let's just fudge the lottery, and stuff the ballot box with JOE BLOW

OK by me. Do you have a point?
Joe
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