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User: "Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!"
Date: 06 Jul 2006 10:24:20 AM
Object: Re: Are Christians really that stupid??????
On 6 Jul 2006 06:20:45 -0700,
"tulle" <tulle040657@yahoo.com> wrote:

"bobandcarole" moronically PARROTED from
their chosen "Bigots-R-Us" website du jour:

<Cutting to the chase noted in the subject header> ---

Just goes to show how Christians will lie and bend the truth.
I can only believe that the mythical good Christians that I hear
claims about do not exists, otherwise they would be actively
campaining against these hateful bigoted Christians.

They exist, all right. Have you read any of my postings?
I'm just one of the over 200,000,000+ ACTUAL Christians in
the USA over age 10... and actual Christians should NEVER be
confused with the hateful and bigoted UN-Christian leaders
and lemmings of the RRR Cult.
The other actual Christians (who comprise a full 94% of all
of America's *professing* Christians) SHOULD be actively
opposing bigotry, as I have been doing for over 45 years, but
they aren't... for the SAME reason that ALL Americans aren't
picketing Big Oil for their gouging-at-the-pump:
APATHY
They are too damned busy with their day-to-day tasks to
make the extra effort for personal liberties that they should
be making for at least a little bit of their time.
But as shameful as that nation-of-sheep aspect is... the
GOOD news is GREAT: **Actual** Christians are NOT bigots.
And they vastly outnumber the loathsome RRR Cultists.

That is why I am starting my campaign to make Chritianity
illegal in the US as a terrorist group.

Change "Christians" to "RRR Cultists" and you'll have the
correct target!
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
---
RRR Cult lemmings.
The RRR Cult leaders' BASE.
The mentally-challenged whom the leaders deliberately
and hatefully TARGET for recruitment. Because
the are the ONLY people who would be unable to
FACT-check the lying propaganda that the leaders
incessantly spew.
RRR Cult lemmings... without whom there could be NO
RRR Cult.
.

User: "CB - aka Unfrozen Caveman Politician Algore"

Title: Re: Are Christians really that stupid?????? No, that's why the choice this Nov. is either fight Evil or Cut & Run 06 Jul 2006 11:52:12 AM
Biff put it best...
The Homosexual acceptance movement is in reality a SHAM using the Diversity
SCAM to hide their true agenda. That hidden agenda is the elimination of
America as we know it and to eliminate the White
Heterosexual Christian's from the Earth. Their Army is the ACLU.
Or you can say the Holy scripture agenda of the Anti-Christ during the end
days is playing out right before our eyes. The below article is more proof
of the real agenda of the left in America. They want to remove GOD and
COUNTRY and create a one world socialist butt ***** paradise using San
FAGcisco as their Mecca.
When you butt ***** and live in perversion, there is accountability through
the word of God and Holy scripture.
Eliminate God and guess what??
You remove all accountability of human behavior. The REAL goal of our
Lesbian controlled Federal Government using the Diversity SHAM plus the
socialist media through manipulation of facts is one goal.
The removal of God and Christians and Anglo-Saxon European
Caucasian people from America. That is the real reason the
Anti-Christ Godless media hates Bush so much.
He prays to Jesus and loves his WIFE.
--Biff
"Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!" <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
wrote in message news:cnaqa2t44k2g9tn4r30kk4l3u0cvfinp4g@4ax.com...

On 6 Jul 2006 06:20:45 -0700,
"tulle" <tulle040657@yahoo.com> wrote:

"bobandcarole" moronically PARROTED from
their chosen "Bigots-R-Us" website du jour:



<Cutting to the chase noted in the subject header> ---

Just goes to show how Christians will lie and bend the truth.
I can only believe that the mythical good Christians that I hear
claims about do not exists, otherwise they would be actively
campaining against these hateful bigoted Christians.


They exist, all right. Have you read any of my postings?
I'm just one of the over 200,000,000+ ACTUAL Christians in
the USA over age 10... and actual Christians should NEVER be
confused with the hateful and bigoted UN-Christian leaders
and lemmings of the RRR Cult.

The other actual Christians (who comprise a full 94% of all
of America's *professing* Christians) SHOULD be actively
opposing bigotry, as I have been doing for over 45 years, but
they aren't... for the SAME reason that ALL Americans aren't
picketing Big Oil for their gouging-at-the-pump:

APATHY

They are too damned busy with their day-to-day tasks to
make the extra effort for personal liberties that they should
be making for at least a little bit of their time.

But as shameful as that nation-of-sheep aspect is... the
GOOD news is GREAT: **Actual** Christians are NOT bigots.
And they vastly outnumber the loathsome RRR Cultists.

That is why I am starting my campaign to make Chritianity
illegal in the US as a terrorist group.


Change "Christians" to "RRR Cultists" and you'll have the
correct target!


-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>

---
RRR Cult lemmings.
The RRR Cult leaders' BASE.
The mentally-challenged whom the leaders deliberately
and hatefully TARGET for recruitment. Because
the are the ONLY people who would be unable to
FACT-check the lying propaganda that the leaders
incessantly spew.
RRR Cult lemmings... without whom there could be NO
RRR Cult.

.
User: "ouroboros rex"

Title: Re: Are Christians really that stupid?????? No, that's why the choice this Nov. is either fight Evil or Cut & Run 06 Jul 2006 12:16:21 PM
"CB - aka Unfrozen Caveman Politician Algore" <CB@PrayForMe.com> wrote in
message news:Lcbrg.83301$qd2.28952@bignews6.bellsouth.net...

Biff put it best...

The Homosexual acceptance movement is in reality a SHAM using the
Diversity SCAM to hide their true agenda. That hidden agenda is the
elimination of America as we know it and to eliminate the White
Heterosexual Christian's from the Earth. Their Army is the ACLU.

k00k-a-d00dle-d000!!!!
Them gays sure must have a whole lotta tanks and guns, right? BWAAAA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!


Or you can say the Holy scripture agenda of the Anti-Christ during the end
days is playing out right before our eyes. The below article is more proof
of the real agenda of the left in America. They want to remove GOD and
COUNTRY and create a one world socialist butt ***** paradise using San
FAGcisco as their Mecca.

When you butt ***** and live in perversion, there is accountability through
the word of God and Holy scripture.

Eliminate God and guess what??

You remove all accountability of human behavior. The REAL goal of our
Lesbian controlled Federal Government using the Diversity SHAM plus the
socialist media through manipulation of facts is one goal.

The removal of God and Christians and Anglo-Saxon European
Caucasian people from America. That is the real reason the
Anti-Christ Godless media hates Bush so much.

He prays to Jesus and loves his WIFE.
--Biff


"Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:cnaqa2t44k2g9tn4r30kk4l3u0cvfinp4g@4ax.com...

On 6 Jul 2006 06:20:45 -0700,
"tulle" <tulle040657@yahoo.com> wrote:

"bobandcarole" moronically PARROTED from
their chosen "Bigots-R-Us" website du jour:



<Cutting to the chase noted in the subject header> ---

Just goes to show how Christians will lie and bend the truth.
I can only believe that the mythical good Christians that I hear
claims about do not exists, otherwise they would be actively
campaining against these hateful bigoted Christians.


They exist, all right. Have you read any of my postings?
I'm just one of the over 200,000,000+ ACTUAL Christians in
the USA over age 10... and actual Christians should NEVER be
confused with the hateful and bigoted UN-Christian leaders
and lemmings of the RRR Cult.

The other actual Christians (who comprise a full 94% of all
of America's *professing* Christians) SHOULD be actively
opposing bigotry, as I have been doing for over 45 years, but
they aren't... for the SAME reason that ALL Americans aren't
picketing Big Oil for their gouging-at-the-pump:

APATHY

They are too damned busy with their day-to-day tasks to
make the extra effort for personal liberties that they should
be making for at least a little bit of their time.

But as shameful as that nation-of-sheep aspect is... the
GOOD news is GREAT: **Actual** Christians are NOT bigots.
And they vastly outnumber the loathsome RRR Cultists.

That is why I am starting my campaign to make Chritianity
illegal in the US as a terrorist group.


Change "Christians" to "RRR Cultists" and you'll have the
correct target!


-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>

---
RRR Cult lemmings.
The RRR Cult leaders' BASE.
The mentally-challenged whom the leaders deliberately
and hatefully TARGET for recruitment. Because
the are the ONLY people who would be unable to
FACT-check the lying propaganda that the leaders
incessantly spew.
RRR Cult lemmings... without whom there could be NO
RRR Cult.



.

User: "Rich Travsky"

Title: Re: Are Christians really that stupid?????? No, that's why the choicethis Nov. is either fight Evil or Cut & Run 09 Jul 2006 08:32:22 PM
CB - aka Unfrozen Caveman Politician Algore wrote:


Biff put it best...

The Homosexual acceptance movement is in reality a SHAM using the Diversity
SCAM to hide their true agenda. That hidden agenda is the elimination of
America as we know it and to eliminate the White
Heterosexual Christian's from the Earth. Their Army is the ACLU.

Or you can say the Holy scripture agenda of the Anti-Christ during the end
days is playing out right before our eyes. The below article is more proof
of the real agenda of the left in America. They want to remove GOD and
COUNTRY and create a one world socialist butt ***** paradise using San
FAGcisco as their Mecca.

When you butt ***** and live in perversion, there is accountability through
the word of God and Holy scripture.

Eliminate God and guess what??

You remove all accountability of human behavior. The REAL goal of our
Lesbian controlled Federal Government using the Diversity SHAM plus the
socialist media through manipulation of facts is one goal.

The removal of God and Christians and Anglo-Saxon European
Caucasian people from America. That is the real reason the
Anti-Christ Godless media hates Bush so much.

He prays to Jesus and loves his WIFE.
--Biff

Clinton got us in this huge mess by filling Government
management with Lesbians and incompetent black women. It
will take WHITE MEN not lying sacks of human ***** like
Bill(Trailer Trash) Clinton to get America out of his Bull
***** ***** Black ***** kissing liberal cesspool he left for Bush.
also by Biff - BIGOT Biff - no wonder you like him

"Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!" <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
wrote in message news:cnaqa2t44k2g9tn4r30kk4l3u0cvfinp4g@4ax.com...

On 6 Jul 2006 06:20:45 -0700,
"tulle" <tulle040657@yahoo.com> wrote:

"bobandcarole" moronically PARROTED from
their chosen "Bigots-R-Us" website du jour:



<Cutting to the chase noted in the subject header> ---

Just goes to show how Christians will lie and bend the truth.
I can only believe that the mythical good Christians that I hear
claims about do not exists, otherwise they would be actively
campaining against these hateful bigoted Christians.


They exist, all right. Have you read any of my postings?
I'm just one of the over 200,000,000+ ACTUAL Christians in
the USA over age 10... and actual Christians should NEVER be
confused with the hateful and bigoted UN-Christian leaders
and lemmings of the RRR Cult.

The other actual Christians (who comprise a full 94% of all
of America's *professing* Christians) SHOULD be actively
opposing bigotry, as I have been doing for over 45 years, but
they aren't... for the SAME reason that ALL Americans aren't
picketing Big Oil for their gouging-at-the-pump:

APATHY

They are too damned busy with their day-to-day tasks to
make the extra effort for personal liberties that they should
be making for at least a little bit of their time.

But as shameful as that nation-of-sheep aspect is... the
GOOD news is GREAT: **Actual** Christians are NOT bigots.
And they vastly outnumber the loathsome RRR Cultists.

That is why I am starting my campaign to make Chritianity
illegal in the US as a terrorist group.


Change "Christians" to "RRR Cultists" and you'll have the
correct target!


-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>

.
User: "Strife767"

Title: Re: Are Christians really that stupid?????? No, that's why the choice this Nov. is either fight Evil or Cut & Run 09 Jul 2006 10:28:47 PM
On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 21:32:22 -0400, Rich Travsky
<traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:

Clinton got us in this huge mess by filling Government
management with Lesbians and incompetent black women. It
will take WHITE MEN not lying sacks of human ***** like
Bill(Trailer Trash) Clinton to get America out of his Bull
***** ***** Black ***** kissing liberal cesspool he left for Bush.

And the klansman is revealed.
.


User: "tulle"

Title: Re: Are Christians really that stupid?????? No, that's why the choice this Nov. is either fight Evil or Cut & Run 06 Jul 2006 01:23:01 PM
CB - aka Unfrozen Caveman Politician Algore wrote:

Biff put it best...

The Homosexual acceptance movement is in reality a SHAM using the Diversity
SCAM to hide their true agenda. That hidden agenda is the elimination of
America as we know it and to eliminate the White
Heterosexual Christian's from the Earth. Their Army is the ACLU.

At this point, I am so tired of the liars for Jesus that I believe that
the only answer to bring morality back to America is to outlaw
Christianity. I did not believe this until seeing how they lie to get
thier way. How full of hate that they are. I have never seen a group of
people go so out of thier way to attack me and my family and the most
important thing in my life is my family. And you little bigot Nazi, I
don't care about your "White Heterosexual Christian" *****. As long as
you are attacking my family you are my enemy. I can only see
elimulation of all Christains, even the ones that profess to love thier
neighbor, because they tolerate the likes of you in thier religion.
Christainity is the most lying, hateful, bigoted, religion ever. I
guess you are sad that is only gay people you are allowed to hate in
public anymore. I can't wait until your god Satan gets a hold of you
and you rot in Hell.
I use to give Christians help if they were down on thier luck. I would
give to Christian charities. No more. Now when I am asked to help, I
ask if thery are Christian and if they answer yes, I tell them I do not
give money to anyone or any group that supports such hateful bigots.


Or you can say the Holy scripture agenda of the Anti-Christ during the end
days is playing out right before our eyes. The below article is more proof
of the real agenda of the left in America. They want to remove GOD and
COUNTRY and create a one world socialist butt ***** paradise using San
FAGcisco as their Mecca.

So what is George Bush (the Anti-Christ) doing these days?


When you butt ***** and live in perversion, there is accountability through
the word of God and Holy scripture.

Eliminate God and guess what??

You remove all accountability of human behavior. The REAL goal of our
Lesbian controlled Federal Government using the Diversity SHAM plus the
socialist media through manipulation of facts is one goal.

So your God appoves of the lies you tell, he is no God, it is Satan
that you follow. after seeing the post here and the likes of Farwell
and useless mass of flesh in Washington, I can see you goal to make the
US a country that worships Satan,. and you must be stopped.


The removal of God and Christians and Anglo-Saxon European
Caucasian people from America. That is the real reason the
Anti-Christ Godless media hates Bush so much.

He prays to Jesus and loves his WIFE.
And is a follower of Satan and his teachings of hate.
--Biff


"Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!" <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
wrote in message news:cnaqa2t44k2g9tn4r30kk4l3u0cvfinp4g@4ax.com...

On 6 Jul 2006 06:20:45 -0700,
"tulle" <tulle040657@yahoo.com> wrote:

"bobandcarole" moronically PARROTED from
their chosen "Bigots-R-Us" website du jour:



<Cutting to the chase noted in the subject header> ---

Just goes to show how Christians will lie and bend the truth.
I can only believe that the mythical good Christians that I hear
claims about do not exists, otherwise they would be actively
campaining against these hateful bigoted Christians.


They exist, all right. Have you read any of my postings?
I'm just one of the over 200,000,000+ ACTUAL Christians in
the USA over age 10... and actual Christians should NEVER be
confused with the hateful and bigoted UN-Christian leaders
and lemmings of the RRR Cult.

The other actual Christians (who comprise a full 94% of all
of America's *professing* Christians) SHOULD be actively
opposing bigotry, as I have been doing for over 45 years, but
they aren't... for the SAME reason that ALL Americans aren't
picketing Big Oil for their gouging-at-the-pump:

APATHY

They are too damned busy with their day-to-day tasks to
make the extra effort for personal liberties that they should
be making for at least a little bit of their time.

But as shameful as that nation-of-sheep aspect is... the
GOOD news is GREAT: **Actual** Christians are NOT bigots.
And they vastly outnumber the loathsome RRR Cultists.

That is why I am starting my campaign to make Chritianity
illegal in the US as a terrorist group.


Change "Christians" to "RRR Cultists" and you'll have the
correct target!


-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>

---
RRR Cult lemmings.
The RRR Cult leaders' BASE.
The mentally-challenged whom the leaders deliberately
and hatefully TARGET for recruitment. Because
the are the ONLY people who would be unable to
FACT-check the lying propaganda that the leaders
incessantly spew.
RRR Cult lemmings... without whom there could be NO
RRR Cult.

.

User: "Strife767"

Title: Re: Are Christians really that stupid?????? No, that's why the choice this Nov. is either fight Evil or Cut & Run 06 Jul 2006 04:24:28 PM
On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 12:52:12 -0400, CB - aka Unfrozen Caveman Politician
Algore <CB@PrayForMe.com> wrote:

Biff put it best...

The Homosexual acceptance movement is in reality a SHAM using the
Diversity
SCAM to hide their true agenda. That hidden agenda is the elimination of
America as we know it and to eliminate the White
Heterosexual Christian's from the Earth. Their Army is the ACLU.

Retarded conspiracy theory. Why would homosexuals want to destroy America,
the country that champions freedom more than any other? Not to mention
that Christians are the undisputed champions of reckless murder for no
good reason. Those abortion clinics don't bomb themselves, you know.
.
User: "Alohacyberian"

Title: Re: Are Christians really that stupid?????? No, that's why the choice this Nov. is either fight Evil or Cut & Run 09 Jul 2006 04:45:52 AM
"Strife767" <strife767@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:op.tcadq0j95i5s70@chris...


Why would homosexuals want to destroy America, the country that champions
freedom more than any other?

Dunno, but, why is it the Leftwing claims to champion homosexuality and
openly champions fundamental Islam. Islamic fundamentalists torture
homosexuals to death. The young Leftwinger attends a pro-Palestinian,
pro-HAMAS rally and goes home to his gay lover and complains about Israelis.
What do Israeli officials do to homosexuals? Nothing. What do Palestinian
officials do to homosexuals? Torture them do death. Ditto HAMAS. How come
there aren't any homosexuals protesting Israel from the Palestinian
Authority? KM
--
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User: "c-bee1"

Title: Re: Are Christians really that stupid?????? No, that's why the choice this Nov. is either fight Evil or Cut & Run 09 Jul 2006 11:55:42 AM
"Alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@att.net> wrote in message
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"Strife767" <strife767@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:op.tcadq0j95i5s70@chris...


Why would homosexuals want to destroy America, the country that

champions

freedom more than any other?

Dunno, but, why is it the Leftwing claims to champion homosexuality and
openly champions fundamental Islam. Islamic fundamentalists torture
homosexuals to death. The young Leftwinger attends a pro-Palestinian,
pro-HAMAS rally and goes home to his gay lover and complains about

Israelis.

What do Israeli officials do to homosexuals? Nothing. What do

Palestinian

officials do to homosexuals? Torture them do death. Ditto HAMAS. How

come

there aren't any homosexuals protesting Israel from the Palestinian
Authority? KM

More made-up crazyass republicrap.
.
User: "Alohacyberian"

Title: Re: Are Christians really that stupid?????? No, that's why the choice this Nov. is either fight Evil or Cut & Run 10 Jul 2006 06:36:06 AM
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"Strife767" <strife767@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Why would homosexuals want to destroy America, the country that

champions

freedom more than any other?

Dunno, but, why is it the Leftwing claims to champion homosexuality and
openly champions fundamental Islam. Islamic fundamentalists torture
homosexuals to death. The young Leftwinger attends a pro-Palestinian,
pro-HAMAS rally and goes home to his gay lover and complains about

Israelis.

What do Israeli officials do to homosexuals? Nothing. What do

Palestinian

officials do to homosexuals? Torture them do death. Ditto HAMAS. How

come

there aren't any homosexuals protesting against Israel from the
Palestinian
Authority? KM


More made-up crazyass republicrap.

Well, I assume you're a fag, but, will place more credence in your protest
after you go to the lands occupied by the Palestinian Authority and announce
to them your homosexuality. Get back to us after you've done that. KM
--
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visit NASA, the Vatican, the Smithsonian, the Louvre, CIA, FBI or
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Visit Hawaii, Israel and more: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/
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User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Are Christians really that stupid?????? No, that's why the choice this Nov. is either fight Evil or Cut & Run 09 Jul 2006 12:19:28 PM
Alohacyberian <alohacyberian@att.net> wrote:

"Strife767" <strife767@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:op.tcadq0j95i5s70@chris...


Why would homosexuals want to destroy America, the country that champions
freedom more than any other?

Dunno, but, why is it the Leftwing claims to champion homosexuality and
openly champions fundamental Islam.

Since the only people who chapion fundamentalist religions are all
right wing it would seem that you're one of those right wing idiots
who blames the left for your own crime.

Islamic fundamentalists torture
homosexuals to death.

So do Christian fundamentalists.

The young Leftwinger attends a pro-Palestinian,
pro-HAMAS rally and goes home to his gay lover and complains about Israelis.

The rightwinger wages wars which kill innocent people by the hundreds
of thousands. The rightwinger supports oppression and dictatorship.

What do Israeli officials do to homosexuals? Nothing.

Israeli officials are just as happy to kill heterosexuals as
homosexuals if they're not Jewish.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Alohacyberian"

Title: Re: Are Christians really that stupid?????? No, that's why the choice this Nov. is either fight Evil or Cut & Run 10 Jul 2006 06:36:07 AM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:44b13aa0$0$34547$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

Alohacyberian <alohacyberian@att.net> wrote:

Islamic fundamentalists torture
homosexuals to death.


So do Christian fundamentalists.

Do, tell, Raymond. And in what country do such things exist and could you
offer some credible citations? KM
--
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visit NASA, the Vatican, the Smithsonian, the Louvre, CIA, FBI or
CNN, NBA, the White House, Academy Awards & 150 foreign languages
Visit Hawaii, Israel and more: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/
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User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Are Christians really that stupid?????? No, that's why the choice this Nov. is either fight Evil or Cut & Run 11 Jul 2006 12:38:00 PM
Alohacyberian <alohacyberian@att.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Alohacyberian <alohacyberian@att.net> wrote:

Islamic fundamentalists torture
homosexuals to death.


So do Christian fundamentalists.


Do, tell, Raymond. And in what country do such things exist

The United States.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "The Apostle Bretts"

Title: Re: Are Christians really that stupid?????? No, that's why the choice this Nov. is either fight Evil or Cut & Run 11 Jul 2006 01:26:52 PM
On 11 Jul 2006 17:38:00 GMT,
(Ray Fischer) wrote:

Alohacyberian <alohacyberian@att.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <

> wrote in message

Alohacyberian <alohacyberian@att.net> wrote:


Islamic fundamentalists torture
homosexuals to death.


So do Christian fundamentalists.


Do, tell, Raymond. And in what country do such things exist


The United States.

Ray, you just said that Christian fundamentalists torture homosexuals
to death in the United States.
.
User: "Miriam Cohen"

Title: Re: Are Christians really that stupid?????? No, that's why the choicethis Nov. is either fight Evil or Cut & Run 11 Jul 2006 07:46:58 PM
The Apostle Bretts wrote:

On 11 Jul 2006 17:38:00 GMT,

(Ray Fischer) wrote:


Alohacyberian <alohacyberian@att.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <

> wrote in message

Alohacyberian <alohacyberian@att.net> wrote:


Islamic fundamentalists torture
homosexuals to death.


So do Christian fundamentalists.


Do, tell, Raymond. And in what country do such things exist


The United States.



Ray, you just said that Christian fundamentalists torture homosexuals
to death in the United States.

We can safely infer that you don't remember that Matthew (I can't
remember his last name) in Wyoming that two rednecks beat the crap out
of and then hung his nearly dead body on a barbed wire fence where he
bled to death? Is that not what you call torture?
--
L'Chaim
Miriam
In the beginning
the Word already was.
.





User: "Strife767"

Title: Re: Are Christians really that stupid?????? No, that's why the choice this Nov. is either fight Evil or Cut & Run 09 Jul 2006 06:48:11 PM
On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 05:45:52 -0400, Alohacyberian <alohacyberian@att.net>
wrote:

"Strife767" <strife767@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:op.tcadq0j95i5s70@chris...


Why would homosexuals want to destroy America, the country that
champions
freedom more than any other?

Dunno, but, why is it the Leftwing

Don't care about political generalizations.
.



User: "Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!"

Title: Re: Are Christians really that stupid?????? No, that's why the choice this Nov. is either fight Evil or Cut & Run 06 Jul 2006 12:20:21 PM
On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 12:52:12 -0400,
"CB" wrote:

Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!" wrote:

"tulle" <tulle040657@yahoo.com> wrote:

"bobandcarole" moronically PARROTED from
their chosen "Bigots-R-Us" website du jour:

<Cutting to the chase noted in the subject header> ---

Just goes to show how Christians will lie and bend the truth.
I can only believe that the mythical good Christians that I hear
claims about do not exists, otherwise they would be actively
campaining against these hateful bigoted Christians.

They exist, all right. Have you read any of my postings?
I'm just one of the over 200,000,000+ ACTUAL Christians in
the USA over age 10... and actual Christians should NEVER be
confused with the hateful and bigoted UN-Christian leaders
and lemmings of the RRR Cult.

The other actual Christians (who comprise a full 94% of all
of America's *professing* Christians) SHOULD be actively
opposing bigotry, as I have been doing for over 45 years, but
they aren't... for the SAME reason that ALL Americans aren't
picketing Big Oil for their gouging-at-the-pump:

APATHY

They are too damned busy with their day-to-day tasks to
make the extra effort for personal liberties that they should
be making for at least a little bit of their time.

But as shameful as that nation-of-sheep aspect is... the
GOOD news is GREAT: **Actual** Christians are NOT bigots.
And they vastly outnumber the loathsome RRR Cultists.

That is why I am starting my campaign to make Christianity
illegal in the US as a terrorist group.

Change "Christians" to "RRR Cultists" and you'll have the
correct target!

The Homosexual acceptance movement is in reality a
SHAM using the Diversity SCAM to hide their true agenda.

ROTFL!!!!
Another **deluded** RRR Cultist who's too dense to
realize that there are perfectly NORMAL variations of
sexual orientation (and homosexuality is one of them;
5-10% of the population) just as handedness (10% of
people are left-handed), eye color, and skin color are.
And that getting society out of a Dark Ages of Bigotry
scenario of discriminating against people over ANY such
**TRIVIALITIES** isn't an "agenda," any more that it
was an "agenda" for the blacks, 40+ years ago, during
Civil Rights Movement I. It's **common sense**. Being
sensible. And fair!
Your ilk like to WHINE about the Bible's condemnation
of homosexuality. Well -- guess what? That's between
God and each of the homosexuals. Or not. AS God and/or
each homosexual chooses. NONE of *your* business,
nor that of any other brainless bigot.
You should call yourselves "HYPOCRITES-R-Us" because
the Bible is JUST as hard on fortune-tellers and sooth-
sayers. There are one hell of a LOT more of them, when
you include those who use Tarot Cards and Ouija Boards,
than there are gays.
SO -- *hypocrite* -- why aren't you and your fellow
loony RRR Cult lemmings out there giving all of THOSE
folks a hard time?
(ROTFL!! What a collection of whackoes!)
<remaining mindless hate-swill flushed>
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
--
RRR cult lemmings... dumber than dirt.
America's mentally-challenged version of the Taliban.

Where common sense and intelligence combine,
a fair-minded egalitarian is ALWAYS the result. RRR
Cult lemmings always lack either one or the other, or
both, of those two elements.
.


User: "cirejcon"

Title: Re: Are Christians really that stupid?????? 06 Jul 2006 10:53:31 AM
Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:

On 6 Jul 2006 06:20:45 -0700,
"tulle" <tulle040657@yahoo.com> wrote:

"bobandcarole" moronically PARROTED from
their chosen "Bigots-R-Us" website du jour:



<Cutting to the chase noted in the subject header> ---

Just goes to show how Christians will lie and bend the truth.
I can only believe that the mythical good Christians that I hear
claims about do not exists, otherwise they would be actively
campaining against these hateful bigoted Christians.


They exist, all right. Have you read any of my postings?
I'm just one of the over 200,000,000+ ACTUAL Christians in
the USA over age 10... and actual Christians should NEVER be
confused with the hateful and bigoted UN-Christian leaders
and lemmings of the RRR Cult.

The other actual Christians (who comprise a full 94% of all
of America's *professing* Christians)

OK, I know I'm going to regret this, but where exactly
does the "94%" come from? Is it just because 90% or
99% would have sounded too much like was pulled
out of your *****?
-jc
.
User: "Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!"

Title: Re: Are Christians really that stupid?????? 06 Jul 2006 11:41:16 AM
On 6 Jul 2006 08:53:31 -0700,

Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:

On 6 Jul 2006 06:20:45 -0700,
"tulle" <tulle040657@yahoo.com> wrote:

"bobandcarole" moronically PARROTED from
their chosen "Bigots-R-Us" website du jour:

<Cutting to the chase noted in the subject header> ---

Just goes to show how Christians will lie and bend the truth.
I can only believe that the mythical good Christians that I hear
claims about do not exists, otherwise they would be actively
campaining against these hateful bigoted Christians.

They exist, all right. Have you read any of my postings?
I'm just one of the over 200,000,000+ ACTUAL Christians in
the USA over age 10... and actual Christians should NEVER be
confused with the hateful and bigoted UN-Christian leaders
and lemmings of the RRR Cult.

The other actual Christians (who comprise a full 94% of all
of America's *professing* Christians)

OK, I know I'm going to regret this, but where exactly
does the "94%" come from? Is it just because 90% or
99% would have sounded too much like was pulled
out of your *****?

Too bad you added that last sentence. Up until then it
sounded like an honest inquiry, but now it looks like you're
just one more petty little RRR Cult bigot.
But either way, here's the answer.
This is one of my RESOURCE posts, which I refresh
periodically.
As you read it, keep in mind that Gallup, and other reliable
polls, have determined that 83% of Americans are *professing*
Christians. Thus, 6% of those would be the same as 5% of
the American population. (Just to avoid any possible confusion.)
The Big CON: "Religious Right" as Bush's "Base!"
Here are the Indisputable FACTS
It has been well-documented by Nov. 2nd's accurate exit polls
that only 17.16% of voters who went to the polls voted for Bush
on the basis of so-called "moral" issues. (Derived thusly: 22%
voted primarily of the basis of "values," and 78% of those who
did so voted for Bush... for a total of 17.16% voters who voted
for "values" from the standpoint of REPRESSING liberties. The
remainder voted for Kerry, having **defending** personal liberties
as *their* most important issue.) That means that 82.64% of those
who voted for Bush -- FOR BUSH! -- not voters *overall* -- voted
for him for OTHER reasons than "values" being foremost. For
them, if "values" were an issue for some, they took back burner
position to such RELEVANT issues and the war and the econ-
omy. Thus, the control-freakish bigots who voted for Bush were
**outnumbered** by those who voted for him based upon
*relevant* issues by a ratio of about SIX to ONE.
(Bush can consider himself very lucky that 82.84% of his voters
actually were obtuse enough to vote for him based on ANY issues,
considering what a proven dishonest and thug-employing
warmonger that he is.) (It's like the "Mirror" in the UK correctly
asked: "How can 59,[000,000+] Americans be so DUMB?")
That's the KINDEST possible cut to the bigots. But another
aspect to the reality of all of this comes from factoring in the
voters who went for Kerry... virtually NONE of whom (obviously)
did so in hopes of seeing the above repressive agendas being
supported.
Let's use these total vote tallies (which each have probably
increased a bit since they were reported, but the percentages
would not have changed)...
Bush 59,459,785
Kerry 55,949,407
Nader 400,706
...and omit Nader, since I haven't seen exit polls regarding how
"moral"-issues-voters related to voting for him. If I could include
those votes in this analysis, though, it probably would be even
WORSE for the bigots, since Nader supporters tend to siphon off
more would-be Democratic votes than Republican ones. So that's
a point worth remembering.
17.16% of Bush's vote comes to 10,203,299, using the above
tallies. 0% of bigots voting for Kerry, of course, is zilch, numbers-
wise. So -- without factoring in the lukewarm morons who were
eligible to vote, but *didn't*, that means that out of a total of
115,409,192 votes actually cast for Bush & Kerry on Nov. 2nd,
only a mere 8.84% were cast by neocon/RRR cult-type "values"
voters; voters who had NO regard for some of out most important
personal liberties.
*Then* it REALLY goes downhill fast for those pathetic bigots!
Those who **didn't** vote, even though they were eligible to, no
doubt included some passive sympathizers to the RRR cult's agendas.
But, for however more of those there may have been, those bigots
were of the HARMLESS variety that are of no concern at all
for fair-minded and egalitarian defenders of human rights. Why?
Because for a person to pose ANY kind of threat to human rights,
they must in SOME respect be *activists* in that manner.
Consider the fact that pretty much the EASIEST way to be an
activist in the most *minimal* degree these days is to VOTE. Why?
Because recently it has become universally possible, in America, to
vote by mail, or ahead of time in person, or via absentee ballot. So
when a person doesn't even make THAT minimal an effort to
support agendas that interest them, then they have proven their
passivity on these issues. So the percentages of bigots among
those voters doesn't matter, since **passive** bigots are not the
sort of bigots that anyone needs to be concerned with.
(For example -- there probably still are countless thousand, and
maybe even a million or more, closet racists living in America who
used to be segregationists, up until THEIR loathsome agenda
became extinct, 40 years ago. By being **closet** racists, they
are harmless. No one cares about a person's *thoughts.* What
counts is the way he ACTS toward others.
I've been unable to find an exact figure for the percentage of
eligible voters that didn't get to the polls, but extrapolating from
the figures cited in this article...
http://usinfo.state.gov/dhr/Archive/2004/Oct/27-717452.html
...it must have been very close to 44%. That gives us a total
of around 206,087,824 total eligible voters: both the ones who
went to the polls, and the 90,678,632 or so who weren't sufficiently
motivated by any of the issues, either real or misperceived, to bother
to vote.
Again -- there is no reason for pro-human rights activists to be
concerned about the eligible voters who didn't vote, because such
lukewarm people don't do human rights any harm, nor do they do
the forces of bigotry any good. Their like the neutrons in an atom;
they add mass/bulk/volume to the population, but when it comes
to these issues, they do little or nothing else.
So we have a total 90,678,632 lukewarm people who proved
that bigoted agendas have such LITTLE importance to them that
they couldn't even be bothered with voting for the candidate most
likely to have aligned himself with those issues.
Of the U.S. electorate eligible to vote on Nov. 2, 2004, we thus
have a total of only 10,203,299 out of 206,087,824 who supported
bigoted agendas by voting for Bush with that being the foremost
reason for casting that vote. That's only a mere 5%.
An "X" factor could be the 80 million or so NON-eligible voters
living in America. Exit polls showed that the **younger** voters who
were old enough and who *did* vote tended to support Kerry by
around 56% to 44%. And the voters over 65 tended to support Bush
in higher percentages than average, but there are fewer of those
than of younger voters. But there's no real way to come up with
figures for how NON-eligible voters **might** have voted if their
viewpoints could be considered, so we're forced either to ignore
them, or simply figure that they were fairly evenly split, as was the
case for the election... which went 51% bush, 49% Kerry, and less
than 1% Nader.
BOTTOM LINE: Of the American electorate eligible to vote, only
a mere 5% are active supporters of the RRR cult's heinous agendas
against human rights and personal liberties. FIVE PERCENT. That's
a ratio of 20-1 of people who either support human rights actively or
for whom opposition to them is of a low enough priority that they
didn't even bother to support those loathsome agendas against safe
& legal abortion-upon-request and **equal** rights for gays by voting
for Bush.
VERY heartening!!
There is NO mandate for Bush that can be ascribed to the
Religious Radical Right, and it is ludicrous for him to consider those
hateful loons to be his "base." Only 5% of America's eligible voters
supported him on that basis!
19 out of every 20 of America's 206 million eligible voters either
are opposed to the loathsome agendas of the RRR cult, or are
not sufficiently interested in them to even minimally support them!
Out of that, the only bad news is this: A glass of drinking water
that's comprised of 5% arsenic would be deadly poisonous. And
that is precisely the danger currently posed to personal freedom in
America by the hateful and control-freakish RRR cult as it exists
today.
More than ever before, thinking, sensible, and egalitarian
Americans need to work HARD to OPPOSE the loathsome RRR
cult on all fronts, and **remove** that poisonous threat to out
personal liberties.
We CAN make America a Bigotry-Free Zone. The arsenic CAN
be filtered out! Especially when 95% of the population is comprised
of human rights activists and apathetic people who pose no oppo-
sition to doing that.
And we MUST do so. Starting today!!!
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Are Christians really that stupid?????? 06 Jul 2006 04:46:25 PM
Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:

On 6 Jul 2006 08:53:31 -0700,

Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:

On 6 Jul 2006 06:20:45 -0700,
"tulle" <tulle040657@yahoo.com> wrote:

"bobandcarole" moronically PARROTED from
their chosen "Bigots-R-Us" website du jour:


<Cutting to the chase noted in the subject header> ---


Just goes to show how Christians will lie and bend the truth.
I can only believe that the mythical good Christians that I hear
claims about do not exists, otherwise they would be actively
campaining against these hateful bigoted Christians.


They exist, all right. Have you read any of my postings?
I'm just one of the over 200,000,000+ ACTUAL Christians in
the USA over age 10... and actual Christians should NEVER be
confused with the hateful and bigoted UN-Christian leaders
and lemmings of the RRR Cult.

The other actual Christians (who comprise a full 94% of all
of America's *professing* Christians)


OK, I know I'm going to regret this, but where exactly
does the "94%" come from? Is it just because 90% or
99% would have sounded too much like was pulled
out of your *****?


Too bad you added that last sentence. Up until then it
sounded like an honest inquiry, but now it looks like you're
just one more petty little RRR Cult bigot.

But either way, here's the answer.

This is one of my RESOURCE posts, which I refresh
periodically.

As you read it, keep in mind that Gallup, and other reliable
polls, have determined that 83% of Americans are *professing*
Christians. Thus, 6% of those would be the same as 5% of
the American population. (Just to avoid any possible confusion.)

The Big CON: "Religious Right" as Bush's "Base!"
Here are the Indisputable FACTS

It has been well-documented by Nov. 2nd's accurate exit polls
that only 17.16% of voters who went to the polls voted for Bush
on the basis of so-called "moral" issues. (Derived thusly: 22%
voted primarily of the basis of "values," and 78% of those who
did so voted for Bush... for a total of 17.16% voters who voted
for "values" from the standpoint of REPRESSING liberties. The
remainder voted for Kerry, having **defending** personal liberties
as *their* most important issue.) That means that 82.64% of those
who voted for Bush -- FOR BUSH! -- not voters *overall* -- voted
for him for OTHER reasons than "values" being foremost. For
them, if "values" were an issue for some, they took back burner
position to such RELEVANT issues and the war and the econ-
omy. Thus, the control-freakish bigots who voted for Bush were
**outnumbered** by those who voted for him based upon
*relevant* issues by a ratio of about SIX to ONE.

(Bush can consider himself very lucky that 82.84% of his voters
actually were obtuse enough to vote for him based on ANY issues,
considering what a proven dishonest and thug-employing
warmonger that he is.) (It's like the "Mirror" in the UK correctly
asked: "How can 59,[000,000+] Americans be so DUMB?")

That's the KINDEST possible cut to the bigots. But another
aspect to the reality of all of this comes from factoring in the
voters who went for Kerry... virtually NONE of whom (obviously)
did so in hopes of seeing the above repressive agendas being
supported.

Let's use these total vote tallies (which each have probably
increased a bit since they were reported, but the percentages
would not have changed)...

Bush 59,459,785
Kerry 55,949,407
Nader 400,706

...and omit Nader, since I haven't seen exit polls regarding how
"moral"-issues-voters related to voting for him. If I could include
those votes in this analysis, though, it probably would be even
WORSE for the bigots, since Nader supporters tend to siphon off
more would-be Democratic votes than Republican ones. So that's
a point worth remembering.

17.16% of Bush's vote comes to 10,203,299, using the above
tallies. 0% of bigots voting for Kerry, of course, is zilch, numbers-
wise. So -- without factoring in the lukewarm morons who were
eligible to vote, but *didn't*, that means that out of a total of
115,409,192 votes actually cast for Bush & Kerry on Nov. 2nd,
only a mere 8.84% were cast by neocon/RRR cult-type "values"
voters; voters who had NO regard for some of out most important
personal liberties.

*Then* it REALLY goes downhill fast for those pathetic bigots!

Those who **didn't** vote, even though they were eligible to, no
doubt included some passive sympathizers to the RRR cult's agendas.
But, for however more of those there may have been, those bigots
were of the HARMLESS variety that are of no concern at all
for fair-minded and egalitarian defenders of human rights. Why?
Because for a person to pose ANY kind of threat to human rights,
they must in SOME respect be *activists* in that manner.

Consider the fact that pretty much the EASIEST way to be an
activist in the most *minimal* degree these days is to VOTE. Why?
Because recently it has become universally possible, in America, to
vote by mail, or ahead of time in person, or via absentee ballot. So
when a person doesn't even make THAT minimal an effort to
support agendas that interest them, then they have proven their
passivity on these issues. So the percentages of bigots among
those voters doesn't matter, since **passive** bigots are not the
sort of bigots that anyone needs to be concerned with.

(For example -- there probably still are countless thousand, and
maybe even a million or more, closet racists living in America who
used to be segregationists, up until THEIR loathsome agenda
became extinct, 40 years ago. By being **closet** racists, they
are harmless. No one cares about a person's *thoughts.* What
counts is the way he ACTS toward others.

I've been unable to find an exact figure for the percentage of
eligible voters that didn't get to the polls, but extrapolating from
the figures cited in this article...

http://usinfo.state.gov/dhr/Archive/2004/Oct/27-717452.html

...it must have been very close to 44%. That gives us a total
of around 206,087,824 total eligible voters: both the ones who
went to the polls, and the 90,678,632 or so who weren't sufficiently
motivated by any of the issues, either real or misperceived, to bother
to vote.

Again -- there is no reason for pro-human rights activists to be
concerned about the eligible voters who didn't vote, because such
lukewarm people don't do human rights any harm, nor do they do
the forces of bigotry any good. Their like the neutrons in an atom;
they add mass/bulk/volume to the population, but when it comes
to these issues, they do little or nothing else.

So we have a total 90,678,632 lukewarm people who proved
that bigoted agendas have such LITTLE importance to them that
they couldn't even be bothered with voting for the candidate most
likely to have aligned himself with those issues.

Of the U.S. electorate eligible to vote on Nov. 2, 2004, we thus
have a total of only 10,203,299 out of 206,087,824 who supported
bigoted agendas by voting for Bush with that being the foremost
reason for casting that vote. That's only a mere 5%.

An "X" factor could be the 80 million or so NON-eligible voters
living in America. Exit polls showed that the **younger** voters who
were old enough and who *did* vote tended to support Kerry by
around 56% to 44%. And the voters over 65 tended to support Bush
in higher percentages than average, but there are fewer of those
than of younger voters. But there's no real way to come up with
figures for how NON-eligible voters **might** have voted if their
viewpoints could be considered, so we're forced either to ignore
them, or simply figure that they were fairly evenly split, as was the
case for the election... which went 51% bush, 49% Kerry, and less
than 1% Nader.

BOTTOM LINE: Of the American electorate eligible to vote, only
a mere 5% are active supporters of the RRR cult's heinous agendas
against human rights and personal liberties. FIVE PERCENT. That's
a ratio of 20-1 of people who either support human rights actively or
for whom opposition to them is of a low enough priority that they
didn't even bother to support those loathsome agendas against safe
& legal abortion-upon-request and **equal** rights for gays by voting
for Bush.

VERY heartening!!

There is NO mandate for Bush that can be ascribed to the
Religious Radical Right, and it is ludicrous for him to consider those
hateful loons to be his "base." Only 5% of America's eligible voters
supported him on that basis!

Thanks for clarifying. In other words, you *did* pull it out
of your *****, but used and entire box of tools in order
to do so.
-jc

19 out of every 20 of America's 206 million eligible voters either
are opposed to the loathsome agendas of the RRR cult, or are
not sufficiently interested in them to even minimally support them!

Out of that, the only bad news is this: A glass of drinking water
that's comprised of 5% arsenic would be deadly poisonous. And
that is precisely the danger currently posed to personal freedom in
America by the hateful and control-freakish RRR cult as it exists
today.

More than ever before, thinking, sensible, and egalitarian
Americans need to work HARD to OPPOSE the loathsome RRR
cult on all fronts, and **remove** that poisonous threat to out
personal liberties.

We CAN make America a Bigotry-Free Zone. The arsenic CAN
be filtered out! Especially when 95% of the population is comprised
of human rights activists and apathetic people who pose no oppo-
sition to doing that.

And we MUST do so. Starting today!!!


-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>

.
User: "Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!"

Title: Re: Are Christians really that stupid?????? 06 Jul 2006 05:11:41 PM
On 6 Jul 2006 14:46:25 -0700,
"Cirejcon" <cirejcon@yahoo.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:

"Cirejcon" <cirejcon@yahoo.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:

"tulle" <tulle040657@yahoo.com> wrote:

"bobandcarole" moronically PARROTED from
their chosen "Bigots-R-Us" website du jour:

<Cutting to the chase noted in the subject header> ---

Just goes to show how Christians will lie and bend the truth.
I can only believe that the mythical good Christians that I hear
claims about do not exists, otherwise they would be actively
campaining against these hateful bigoted Christians.

They exist, all right. Have you read any of my postings?
I'm just one of the over 200,000,000+ ACTUAL Christians in
the USA over age 10... and actual Christians should NEVER be
confused with the hateful and bigoted UN-Christian leaders
and lemmings of the RRR Cult.

The other actual Christians (who comprise a full 94% of all
of America's *professing* Christians)

OK, I know I'm going to regret this, but where exactly
does the "94%" come from? Is it just because 90% or
99% would have sounded too much like was pulled
out of your *****?

Too bad you added that last sentence. Up until then it
sounded like an honest inquiry, but now it looks like you're
just one more petty little RRR Cult bigot.

But either way, here's the answer.

This is one of my RESOURCE posts, which I refresh
periodically.

As you read it, keep in mind that Gallup, and other reliable
polls, have determined that 83% of Americans are *professing*
Christians. Thus, 6% of those would be the same as 5% of
the American population. (Just to avoid any possible confusion.)

The Big CON: "Religious Right" as Bush's "Base!"
Here are the Indisputable FACTS

It has been well-documented by Nov. 2nd's accurate exit polls
that only 17.16% of voters who went to the polls voted for Bush
on the basis of so-called "moral" issues. (Derived thusly: 22%
voted primarily of the basis of "values," and 78% of those who
did so voted for Bush... for a total of 17.16% voters who voted
for "values" from the standpoint of REPRESSING liberties. The
remainder voted for Kerry, having **defending** personal liberties
as *their* most important issue.) That means that 82.64% of those
who voted for Bush -- FOR BUSH! -- not voters *overall* -- voted
for him for OTHER reasons than "values" being foremost. For
them, if "values" were an issue for some, they took back burner
position to such RELEVANT issues and the war and the econ-
omy. Thus, the control-freakish bigots who voted for Bush were
**outnumbered** by those who voted for him based upon
*relevant* issues by a ratio of about SIX to ONE.

(Bush can consider himself very lucky that 82.84% of his voters
actually were obtuse enough to vote for him based on ANY issues,
considering what a proven dishonest and thug-employing
warmonger that he is.) (It's like the "Mirror" in the UK correctly
asked: "How can 59,[000,000+] Americans be so DUMB?")

That's the KINDEST possible cut to the bigots. But another
aspect to the reality of all of this comes from factoring in the
voters who went for Kerry... virtually NONE of whom (obviously)
did so in hopes of seeing the above repressive agendas being
supported.

Let's use these total vote tallies (which each have probably
increased a bit since they were reported, but the percentages
would not have changed)...

Bush 59,459,785
Kerry 55,949,407
Nader 400,706

...and omit Nader, since I haven't seen exit polls regarding how
"moral"-issues-voters related to voting for him. If I could include
those votes in this analysis, though, it probably would be even
WORSE for the bigots, since Nader supporters tend to siphon off
more would-be Democratic votes than Republican ones. So that's
a point worth remembering.

17.16% of Bush's vote comes to 10,203,299, using the above
tallies. 0% of bigots voting for Kerry, of course, is zilch, numbers-
wise. So -- without factoring in the lukewarm morons who were
eligible to vote, but *didn't*, that means that out of a total of
115,409,192 votes actually cast for Bush & Kerry on Nov. 2nd,
only a mere 8.84% were cast by neocon/RRR cult-type "values"
voters; voters who had NO regard for some of out most important
personal liberties.

*Then* it REALLY goes downhill fast for those pathetic bigots!

Those who **didn't** vote, even though they were eligible to, no
doubt included some passive sympathizers to the RRR cult's agendas.
But, for however more of those there may have been, those bigots
were of the HARMLESS variety that are of no concern at all
for fair-minded and egalitarian defenders of human rights. Why?
Because for a person to pose ANY kind of threat to human rights,
they must in SOME respect be *activists* in that manner.

Consider the fact that pretty much the EASIEST way to be an
activist in the most *minimal* degree these days is to VOTE. Why?
Because recently it has become universally possible, in America, to
vote by mail, or ahead of time in person, or via absentee ballot. So
when a person doesn't even make THAT minimal an effort to
support agendas that interest them, then they have proven their
passivity on these issues. So the percentages of bigots among
those voters doesn't matter, since **passive** bigots are not the
sort of bigots that anyone needs to be concerned with.

(For example -- there probably still are countless thousand, and
maybe even a million or more, closet racists living in America who
used to be segregationists, up until THEIR loathsome agenda
became extinct, 40 years ago. By being **closet** racists, they
are harmless. No one cares about a person's *thoughts.* What
counts is the way he ACTS toward others.

I've been unable to find an exact figure for the percentage of
eligible voters that didn't get to the polls, but extrapolating from
the figures cited in this article...

http://usinfo.state.gov/dhr/Archive/2004/Oct/27-717452.html

...it must have been very close to 44%. That gives us a total
of around 206,087,824 total eligible voters: both the ones who
went to the polls, and the 90,678,632 or so who weren't sufficiently
motivated by any of the issues, either real or misperceived, to bother
to vote.

Again -- there is no reason for pro-human rights activists to be
concerned about the eligible voters who didn't vote, because such
lukewarm people don't do human rights any harm, nor do they do
the forces of bigotry any good. Their like the neutrons in an atom;
they add mass/bulk/volume to the population, but when it comes
to these issues, they do little or nothing else.

So we have a total 90,678,632 lukewarm people who proved
that bigoted agendas have such LITTLE importance to them that
they couldn't even be bothered with voting for the candidate most
likely to have aligned himself with those issues.

Of the U.S. electorate eligible to vote on Nov. 2, 2004, we thus
have a total of only 10,203,299 out of 206,087,824 who supported
bigoted agendas by voting for Bush with that being the foremost
reason for casting that vote. That's only a mere 5%.

An "X" factor could be the 80 million or so NON-eligible voters
living in America. Exit polls showed that the **younger** voters who
were old enough and who *did* vote tended to support Kerry by
around 56% to 44%. And the voters over 65 tended to support Bush
in higher percentages than average, but there are fewer of those
than of younger voters. But there's no real way to come up with
figures for how NON-eligible voters **might** have voted if their
viewpoints could be considered, so we're forced either to ignore
them, or simply figure that they were fairly evenly split, as was the
case for the election... which went 51% bush, 49% Kerry, and less
than 1% Nader.

BOTTOM LINE: Of the American electorate eligible to vote, only
a mere 5% are active supporters of the RRR cult's heinous agendas
against human rights and personal liberties. FIVE PERCENT. That's
a ratio of 20-1 of people who either support human rights actively or
for whom opposition to them is of a low enough priority that they
didn't even bother to support those loathsome agendas against safe
& legal abortion-upon-request and **equal** rights for gays by voting
for Bush.

VERY heartening!!

There is NO mandate for Bush that can be ascribed to the
Religious Radical Right, and it is ludicrous for him to consider those
hateful loons to be his "base." Only 5% of America's eligible voters
supported him on that basis!

Thanks for clarifying.

You're quite welcome. Too bad though, that your very limited
comprehension capabilities weren't up to the task of understanding it.

In other words, you *did* pull it out of your *****, but used
and entire box of tools in order to do so.

And now we all can easily see why you cravenly cower behind
an alias. (See SIG.) MOST folks who are as dishonest and doltish
as you have just proven yourself to be, in the face of very CLEAR-
cut facts, tend not to want their friends and acquaintances to learn
about those undesirable traits.

19 out of every 20 of America's 206 million eligible voters either
are opposed to the loathsome agendas of the RRR cult, or are
not sufficiently interested in them to even minimally support them!

Out of that, the only bad news is this: A glass of drinking water
that's comprised of 5% arsenic would be deadly poisonous. And
that is precisely the danger currently posed to personal freedom in
America by the hateful and control-freakish RRR cult as it exists
today.

More than ever before, thinking, sensible, and egalitarian
Americans need to work HARD to OPPOSE the loathsome RRR
cult on all fronts, and **remove** that poisonous threat to out
personal liberties.

We CAN make America a Bigotry-Free Zone. The arsenic CAN
be filtered out! Especially when 95% of the population is comprised
of human rights activists and apathetic people who pose no oppo-
sition to doing that.

And we MUST do so. Starting today!!!

-- Craig Chilton

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
On Those Who Post ANONYMOUSLY...
"As for posting anonymously, it makes no difference
whether a FAIR-MINDED person who is opposed to a hateful
agenda (Anti-Choice) posts anonymously or not, since
he/she has NOTHING to be ASHAMED of in the first place,
when putting up such posts. The only anonymous COWARDS
are those who spew shameful hate and repression, while
hiding behind an alias in the process... just like a Ku Klux Klans-
man who cravenly hides his face under a hood."
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
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User: "Holy McBretts"

Title: Re: Are Christians really that stupid?????? 06 Jul 2006 06:28:22 PM
On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 22:11:41 GMT, Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the
USA Bigotry-FREE! <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

subject: Are Christians really that stupid??????

Yup.
----------
"I CAN prove it [that God exists], I choose NOT to."
-- posted on July 3, 2006 in a.p.h. by fundy xian G-net
.
User: "Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!"

Title: Re: Are Christians really that stupid?????? 06 Jul 2006 09:11:15 PM
On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 23:28:22 GMT,
"Holy McBretts" wrote:

Subject: Are Christians really that stupid??????

Yup.

<<< sigh >>>
I see it's time for me to bring back another Resource Post.
One of several I could have chosen for this purpose.
THIS one homes in on the single most important common
denominator of the UN-Christian bigots who have done so
much damage to the image of the 94% of Christians (the
ACTUAL Christians) who, for the most part, are NOT afflicted
to sociopathic levels by that character flaw.
See it in these groups at about the same time that you
see THIS response.
It's entitled:
RESOURCE POST: To Be an RRR Cultist, a Person
MUST Have this DEFINING Flaw
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
.






User: ""

Title: Yeah, christians really ARE that stupid! 08 Jul 2006 03:24:12 PM
Look, let's look at how these fools think. Anti-abortionists and
anti-stem-cellers (aka christians) would have you believe that, if a
minuscule polycellular organism had fleeting contact with a
just-fertilized egg, that act would be considered assault--if not
RAPE--and the organism would have to stand trial for the attack! On a
human, correct?
Bwahahahahahahah ..........
=====
Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:

On 6 Jul 2006 06:20:45 -0700,
"tulle" <tulle040657@yahoo.com> wrote:

"bobandcarole" moronically PARROTED from
their chosen "Bigots-R-Us" website du jour:



<Cutting to the chase noted in the subject header> ---

Just goes to show how Christians will lie and bend the truth.
I can only believe that the mythical good Christians that I hear
claims about do not exists, otherwise they would be actively
campaining against these hateful bigoted Christians.


They exist, all right. Have you read any of my postings?
I'm just one of the over 200,000,000+ ACTUAL Christians in
the USA over age 10... and actual Christians should NEVER be
confused with the hateful and bigoted UN-Christian leaders
and lemmings of the RRR Cult.

The other actual Christians (who comprise a full 94% of all
of America's *professing* Christians) SHOULD be actively
opposing bigotry, as I have been doing for over 45 years, but
they aren't... for the SAME reason that ALL Americans aren't
picketing Big Oil for their gouging-at-the-pump:

APATHY

They are too damned busy with their day-to-day tasks to
make the extra effort for personal liberties that they should
be making for at least a little bit of their time.

But as shameful as that nation-of-sheep aspect is... the
GOOD news is GREAT: **Actual** Christians are NOT bigots.
And they vastly outnumber the loathsome RRR Cultists.

That is why I am starting my campaign to make Chritianity
illegal in the US as a terrorist group.


Change "Christians" to "RRR Cultists" and you'll have the
correct target!


-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>

---
RRR Cult lemmings.
The RRR Cult leaders' BASE.
The mentally-challenged whom the leaders deliberately
and hatefully TARGET for recruitment. Because
the are the ONLY people who would be unable to
FACT-check the lying propaganda that the leaders
incessantly spew.
RRR Cult lemmings... without whom there could be NO
RRR Cult.

.
User: "Alohacyberian"

Title: Re: Yeah, christians really ARE that stupid! 09 Jul 2006 01:24:08 AM
<perryneheum@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1152390252.646387.323300@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Look, let's look at how these fools think. Anti-abortionists and
anti-stem-cellers (aka christians)

Please tell us the stand of Islam on abortion and embryonic stem-cell
research. And if you are so brilliant as to levy a wholesale indictment
against all Christians, someone should clue you in to a few facts: the stem
cell controversy is over EMBRIONIC stem cell research, not stem cell
research. A great many advances have been made in treatment due to stem
cell research, however the percent that came from embryonic stem cell
research is a whopping 0%. KM
--
(-:alohacyberian:-) At my website there are 3600 live cameras or
visit NASA, the Vatican, the Smithsonian, the Louvre, CIA, FBI or
CNN, NBA, the White House, Academy Awards & 150 foreign languages
Visit Hawaii, Israel and more: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/
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User: "Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!"

Title: Re: Yeah, christians really ARE that stupid! 09 Jul 2006 01:49:58 AM
On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 06:24:08 GMT,
"Alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@att.net> wrote:

The stem cell controversy is over EMBRIONIC stem cell
research, not stem cell research. A great many advances
have been made in treatment due to stem cell research,
however the percent that came from embryonic stem cell
research is a whopping 0%.

Even if that were true, it will soon change as more and MORE
embryonic stem cell research is done. And only a complete
nitwit would ever oppose such harmless research offering such
HUGELY-beneficial likely returns to medicine.
That would be just any RRR cultist than anyone could name/
The GOOD news is that only 5% of Americans are afflicted
with that loonacy.
And we who are SENSIBLE and *support* embryonic stem cell
research do NOT consider it the least bit controversial.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
--
RRR cult lemmings... dumber than dirt.
America's mentally-challenged version of the Taliban.

Where common sense and intelligence combine,
a fair-minded egalitarian is ALWAYS the result. RRR
Cult lemmings always lack either one or the other, or
both, of those two elements.
.
User: "Alohacyberian"

Title: Re: Yeah, christians really ARE that stupid! 10 Jul 2006 05:59:10 AM
"Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!" <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
wrote in message news:af91b2h46vn8e0dds1gr8siutqvm913unh@4ax.com...

On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 06:24:08 GMT,
"Alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@att.net> wrote:

The stem cell controversy is over EMBRYONIC stem cell
research, not stem cell research. A great many advances
have been made in treatment due to stem cell research,
however the percent that came from embryonic stem cell
research is a whopping 0%.


Even if that were true, it will soon change as more and MORE
embryonic stem cell research is done. And only a complete
nitwit would ever oppose such harmless research offering such
HUGELY-beneficial likely returns to medicine.

I'm certainly not opposed to Embryonic stem cell research - why are you? KM
--
(-:alohacyberian:-) At my website there are 3600 live cameras or
visit NASA, the Vatican, the Smithsonian, the Louvre, CIA, FBI or
CNN, NBA, the White House, Academy Awards & 150 foreign languages
Visit Hawaii, Israel and more: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/
.
User: "Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!"

Title: Re: Yeah, christians really ARE that stupid! 10 Jul 2006 12:54:51 PM
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:59:10 GMT,
"Alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@att.net> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

"Alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@att.net> wrote:

The stem cell controversy is over EMBRYONIC stem cell
research, not stem cell research. A great many advances
have been made in treatment due to stem cell research,
however the percent that came from embryonic stem cell
research is a whopping 0%.

Even if that were true, it will soon change as more and MORE
embryonic stem cell research is done. And only a complete
nitwit would ever oppose such harmless research offering such
HUGELY-beneficial likely returns to medicine.

I'm certainly not opposed to Embryonic stem cell research - why
are you?

I'm not. I support it 100%. My comment AGREED with you.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
.



User: "Gringo"

Title: Re: Re: Yeah, christians really ARE that stupid! 09 Jul 2006 06:53:27 AM
On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 06:24:08 GMT, "Alohacyberian"
<alohacyberian@att.net> wrote:
<perryneheum@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1152390252.646387.323300@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Look, let's look at how these fools think.

Anti-abortionists and

anti-stem-cellers (aka christians)

Please tell us the stand of Islam on abortion and
embryonic stem-cell
research. And if you are so brilliant as to levy
a wholesale indictment
against all Christians, someone should clue you in
to a few facts: the stem
cell controversy is over EMBRIONIC stem cell
research, not stem cell
research. A great many advances have been made in
treatment due to stem
cell research, however the percent that came from
embryonic stem cell
research is a whopping 0%. KM
Where in the world do you get your information?
Serously, what do you read that convinces you that
the nonsense you write is true?
.
User: "Alohacyberian"

Title: Re: Re: Yeah, christians really ARE that stupid! 10 Jul 2006 05:59:11 AM
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