Science > Abortion > Re: Are YOU a Homophobe? If so, can you answer THESE Questions?
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01 Apr 2004 12:55:41 PM |
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Re: Are YOU a Homophobe? If so, can you answer THESE Questions? |
(Craig Chilton) wrote in message news:<40651edf.63886003@netnews.mchsi.com>...
1. WHY are you a BUSYBODY?
Why are you asking?
2. WHY would you give a flying rat's ***** about ANY
person's *private* sex life?
I don't.
3. WHY in the world would you seek to treat any
person or group of people with less respect based
solely on what they do in private, as consensual
adults? (How could that POSSIBLY be of ANY
importance to you?)
I don't.
4. IF you are opposed to same-sex marriage, WHY?
Because it is a sin. And if I was to support same sex marriage it
would be the same as saying the act of homosexuality is o.k., which it
isn't. So I will never vote for any candidate that supports
homosexual marriage.
Only a VALID, **factual** reason... such as a *way*
that any heterosexual couple's marriage would in
ANY way be threatened, and thus need "protection"
from this impending expansion of liberty... is appro-
priate as a response. (Mindless emotionalism
counts for *nothing*, and is NO excuse for
discrimination.)
Why are you the only one who thinks you can say what is valid or not?
That is a awful lot of power you are giving yourself. Ever occur to
you that some will disagree?
5. ENDA -- the totally-harmless "Employment Non-
Discrimination Act" -- which would have done
nothing more than ensure that people could NOT
be unfairly discriminated against in the workplace,
due to their sexual orientation -- failed by only ONE
(RRR cult-induced) vote in the U.S. Senate last
time, and will almost surely *pass* THIS time. Would
YOU be opposed to this very FAIR measure? If
so -- WHY?
I have no problem with laws that prohibit discrimination. A person is
there to
do a job, and only that job. Not bring in their personal lives. When
they bring in their personal lives, they set themselves up.
[[[ READERS -- if *any* person provides sensible and
intelligent answers to ANY the five above questions,
you'd better be sitting down. I've never seen ANY
person YET provide an intelligent and factual reason
for doing ANY of the above.
Craig Chilton < >
I believe my answers are sensible and intelligent. Your first
question about being a busybody, you kind of contradict yourself by
even asking people these questions. Makes you the busybody.
IMHO
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08 Apr 2004 04:57:01 PM |
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In article <4075BDC6.19637B68@bellsouth.net>, Jim Ledford
<jimled@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Draccus874 wrote:
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The Difference is that homosexuality involves adults that
consent to the different form of love they share, just like
heterosexual couples I might add, these are relationships between
equals. Gay
Marriage involves two adults who wish to seek legal recognition of
their commitment to one another, just as heterosexual marriage does,
such civil contracts should not be subject to an arbitrary and
religiously based discrimination. No one is telling Church's they are
required to perform marriages for homosexuals. There is a difference
between the civil marriage and the religious marriage, what
homosexuals are seeking is the former not the later. Civil marriage is
a recognized contract between the couple and the State. Religious
Marriage is a contract between the couple and the Divine. We are a
Nation of law and have made the commitment not to mix the two; State
and Religion both are served best when they are left Separate.
why is [same sex union] with ALL rights and privileges
being the same as a marriage unacceptable to the homosexual?
1) because they aren't the same - civil unions are only recognized by
the state they are issued. No federal recognition at all.
Now if they just got the government out of the marriage business and
let the secular side be covered by civil unions and the religious side
by the rite of marriage, THAT would really solve the issue.
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| User: "Light Templar" |
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08 Apr 2004 04:18:36 PM |
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Jim Ledford wrote:
Draccus874 wrote:
[....]
The Difference is that homosexuality involves adults that
consent to the different form of love they share, just like
heterosexual couples I might add, these are relationships between
equals. Gay
Marriage involves two adults who wish to seek legal recognition of
their commitment to one another, just as heterosexual marriage does,
such civil contracts should not be subject to an arbitrary and
religiously based discrimination. No one is telling Church's they are
required to perform marriages for homosexuals. There is a difference
between the civil marriage and the religious marriage, what
homosexuals are seeking is the former not the later. Civil marriage
is a recognized contract between the couple and the State. Religious
Marriage is a contract between the couple and the Divine. We are a
Nation of law and have made the commitment not to mix the two; State
and Religion both are served best when they are left Separate.
why is [same sex union] with ALL rights and privileges
being the same as a marriage unacceptable to the homosexual?
It's not unacceptable for all homosexuals, but it does create a "separate
but equal" institution of the type created by segregation back in the last
century. It presupposes that some of our citizens are less than other
citizens.
--
"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons
of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use
against our friends, against our allies, and against us."
Vice President Speaks at VFW 103rd National Convention, White House
(8/26/2002).
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| User: "Jim Ledford" |
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08 Apr 2004 05:10:45 PM |
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Light Templar wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
Draccus874 wrote:
[....]
The Difference is that homosexuality involves adults that
consent to the different form of love they share, just like
heterosexual couples I might add, these are relationships between
equals. Gay
Marriage involves two adults who wish to seek legal recognition of
their commitment to one another, just as heterosexual marriage does,
such civil contracts should not be subject to an arbitrary and
religiously based discrimination. No one is telling Church's they are
required to perform marriages for homosexuals. There is a difference
between the civil marriage and the religious marriage, what
homosexuals are seeking is the former not the later. Civil marriage
is a recognized contract between the couple and the State. Religious
Marriage is a contract between the couple and the Divine. We are a
Nation of law and have made the commitment not to mix the two; State
and Religion both are served best when they are left Separate.
why is [same sex union] with ALL rights and privileges
being the same as a marriage unacceptable to the homosexual?
It's not unacceptable for all homosexuals, but it does create a "separate
but equal" institution of the type created by segregation back in the last
century. It presupposes that some of our citizens are less than other
citizens.
my research has lead me to understand they, the homosexual, simply
wish to have rights same as the married heterosexual. ie: wills,
right to visit in hospital, parental rights, property rights. I
am a Christian and with that I am unable to support homosexuality
as a life style. Therefore, I can not support the concept of
[same sex marriage]. I do however fell it best that the homosexual
be allowed to live in peace. I will admit there was a time in my
not so distant past where I would attempt to belittle an
opponent / adversary by using the sang words to call them a
homosexual. with God's help I plan on stopped that behavior in me.
God is love.
--
"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons
of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use
against our friends, against our allies, and against us."
Vice President Speaks at VFW 103rd National Convention, White House
(8/26/2002).
Dan Quayle is still in first place for all time funny quotes.
Mr. Potato with or without an 'e'
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| User: "Dennis Kemmerer" |
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| Title: Re: Are YOU a Homophobe? If so, can you answer THESE Questions? |
08 Apr 2004 07:33:41 PM |
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"Jim Ledford" <jimled@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:4075CDE5.27BA41D8@bellsouth.net...
[snip]
my research has lead me to understand they, the homosexual, simply
wish to have rights same as the married heterosexual. ie: wills,
right to visit in hospital, parental rights, property rights. I
am a Christian and with that I am unable to support homosexuality
as a life style.
Then don't do it.
BTW, what exactly is a 'homosexual life style [sic]' and how does it differ
from a 'heterosexual life style?'
Therefore, I can not support the concept of
[same sex marriage]. I do however fell it best that the homosexual
be allowed to live in peace. I will admit there was a time in my
not so distant past where I would attempt to belittle an
opponent / adversary by using the sang words to call them a
homosexual. with God's help I plan on stopped that behavior in me.
Congratulations for getting past the epithets.
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| User: "Jim Ledford" |
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09 Apr 2004 03:36:22 AM |
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Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
[snip]
my research has lead me to understand they, the homosexual, simply
wish to have rights same as the married heterosexual. ie: wills,
right to visit in hospital, parental rights, property rights. I
am a Christian and with that I am unable to support homosexuality
as a life style.
Then don't do it.
the best I'm going to be able to do is going to be to show
them God's love and forgiveness. the healing rest with
their choice to receive. http://www.crossministry.org/index.htm
BTW, what exactly is a 'homosexual life style [sic]'
Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he
lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an
abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their
blood shall be upon them.
and how does it differ
from a 'heterosexual life style?'
the difference is in the choice one makes as to
abide by God's laws or not to abide.
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| User: "RobertVB" |
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09 Apr 2004 02:25:29 PM |
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In article <40766086.4CE73DA4@bellsouth.net>, Jim Ledford
<jimled@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
[snip]
my research has lead me to understand they, the homosexual, simply
wish to have rights same as the married heterosexual. ie: wills,
right to visit in hospital, parental rights, property rights. I
am a Christian and with that I am unable to support homosexuality
as a life style.
Then don't do it.
the best I'm going to be able to do is going to be to show
them God's love and forgiveness. the healing rest with
their choice to receive. http://www.crossministry.org/index.htm
BTW, what exactly is a 'homosexual life style [sic]'
Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he
lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an
abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their
blood shall be upon them.
So a few minutes activity a week (if you're lucky!) defines a lifestyle?
I can almost guarantee we are using this word in wildly different ways.
and how does it differ
from a 'heterosexual life style?'
the difference is in the choice one makes as to
abide by God's laws or not to abide.
Which even god gave to everyone.
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| User: "Jim Ledford" |
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09 Apr 2004 02:52:20 PM |
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RobertVB wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
[snip]
my research has lead me to understand they, the homosexual, simply
wish to have rights same as the married heterosexual. ie: wills,
right to visit in hospital, parental rights, property rights. I
am a Christian and with that I am unable to support homosexuality
as a life style.
Then don't do it.
the best I'm going to be able to do is going to be to show
them God's love and forgiveness. the healing rest with
their choice to receive. http://www.crossministry.org/index.htm
BTW, what exactly is a 'homosexual life style [sic]'
Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he
lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an
abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their
blood shall be upon them.
So a few minutes activity a week (if you're lucky!) defines a lifestyle?
I can almost guarantee we are using this word in wildly different ways.
and how does it differ
from a 'heterosexual life style?'
the difference is in the choice one makes as to
abide by God's laws or not to abide.
Which even god gave to everyone.
choice is a good thing. say like when you're on that
TV show where you get to chose between door number 1
and door number 2 or the box Carol is standing beside.
I chose the box and then later I found out Carol did
not come with the box. :(
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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10 Apr 2004 07:52:51 AM |
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On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 15:52:20 -0400, Jim Ledford
<jimled@bellsouth.net> spake thusly:
choice is a good thing. say like when you're on that
TV show where you get to chose between door number 1
and door number 2 or the box Carol is standing beside.
I chose the box and then later I found out Carol did
not come with the box. :(
Yes, many people were upset over that one. :)
--
± Pastor Dave Raymond ±
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
"When we descend to details we can prove that no one
species has changed (i.e., we cannot prove that a
single species has changed): nor can we prove that
the supposed changes are beneficial, which is the
groundwork of the theory. Nor can we explain why
some species have changed and others have not.
The latter case seems to me hardly more difficult
to understand precisely and in detail than the former
case of supposed change" - Darwin, 1863.
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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09 Apr 2004 07:11:16 AM |
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On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 04:36:22 -0400, Jim Ledford <jimled@bellsouth.net>
wrote in message news:<40766086.4CE73DA4@bellsouth.net>:
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
[snip]
my research has lead me to understand they, the homosexual, simply
wish to have rights same as the married heterosexual. ie: wills,
right to visit in hospital, parental rights, property rights. I
am a Christian and with that I am unable to support homosexuality
as a life style.
Then don't do it.
the best I'm going to be able to do is going to be to show
them God's love and forgiveness. the healing rest with
their choice to receive. http://www.crossministry.org/index.htm
BTW, what exactly is a 'homosexual life style [sic]'
Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he
lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an
abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their
blood shall be upon them.
and how does it differ
from a 'heterosexual life style?'
the difference is in the choice one makes as to
abide by God's laws or not to abide.
Give me a fscking break! ALL Christians disobey the Bible on a regular
basis. There are NO exceptions. When was the last time you ate lobster?
Shaved? Ate pork? A cheeseburger? Wore clothing with mixed fibers? Did
work on a Saturday (or Sunday)?
The ONLY reason Christians preach against the "sin" of homosexuality is
because it is such an easy one for heterosexuals (the majority) to avoid.
I GUARANTEE you that if the number of heterosexuals and homosexuals were
more equal, NOBODY would ever quote Leviticus 18:22, or 20:13, and
same-sex marriages would have been legal for AT LEAST the last 100 years.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it, hypocrite!
--
Funny Sister Lurlean quote #12:
"The important thing to know is whether the different candidates is
circumcised." --Lurlean makes her final decision as she approaches the ballot
box.
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| User: "Jim Ledford" |
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09 Apr 2004 02:46:58 PM |
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Bill Baker wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
[snip]
my research has lead me to understand they, the homosexual, simply
wish to have rights same as the married heterosexual. ie: wills,
right to visit in hospital, parental rights, property rights. I
am a Christian and with that I am unable to support homosexuality
as a life style.
Then don't do it.
the best I'm going to be able to do is going to be to show
them God's love and forgiveness. the healing rest with
their choice to receive. http://www.crossministry.org/index.htm
BTW, what exactly is a 'homosexual life style [sic]'
Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he
lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an
abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their
blood shall be upon them.
and how does it differ
from a 'heterosexual life style?'
the difference is in the choice one makes as to
abide by God's laws or not to abide.
Give me a fscking break!
Bill, I really hate it when this happens. the parts bin where
the replacement "fscking breaks" are kept is empty. you're in
luck if'en you don't mine one of those cheap made in china
kind-of-sort-a copies, because I can have you one here first thing
Monday morning. oh, and with our new shipping procedure we can
ship it right on out to your Farm. :)
http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/t/h/theplanter/
ALL Christians disobey the Bible on a regular
basis. There are NO exceptions. When was the last time you ate lobster?
Shaved? Ate pork? A cheeseburger? Wore clothing with mixed fibers? Did
work on a Saturday (or Sunday)?
The ONLY reason Christians preach against the "sin" of homosexuality is
because it is such an easy one for heterosexuals (the majority) to avoid.
I GUARANTEE you that if the number of heterosexuals and homosexuals were
more equal, NOBODY would ever quote Leviticus 18:22, or 20:13, and
same-sex marriages would have been legal for AT LEAST the last 100 years.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it, hypocrite!
sin is sin and
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death but the gift
of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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09 Apr 2004 08:20:18 PM |
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On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 15:46:58 -0400, Jim Ledford <jimled@bellsouth.net>
wrote in message news:<4076FDB2.F38AD353@bellsouth.net>:
Bill Baker wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
[snip]
my research has lead me to understand they, the homosexual, simply
wish to have rights same as the married heterosexual. ie: wills,
right to visit in hospital, parental rights, property rights. I
am a Christian and with that I am unable to support homosexuality
as a life style.
Then don't do it.
the best I'm going to be able to do is going to be to show
them God's love and forgiveness. the healing rest with
their choice to receive. http://www.crossministry.org/index.htm
BTW, what exactly is a 'homosexual life style [sic]'
Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he
lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an
abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their
blood shall be upon them.
and how does it differ
from a 'heterosexual life style?'
the difference is in the choice one makes as to
abide by God's laws or not to abide.
Give me a fscking break!
Bill, I really hate it when this happens. the parts bin where
the replacement "fscking breaks" are kept is empty. you're in
luck if'en you don't mine one of those cheap made in china
kind-of-sort-a copies, because I can have you one here first thing
Monday morning. oh, and with our new shipping procedure we can
ship it right on out to your Farm. :)
http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/t/h/theplanter/
ALL Christians disobey the Bible on a regular
basis. There are NO exceptions. When was the last time you ate lobster?
Shaved? Ate pork? A cheeseburger? Wore clothing with mixed fibers? Did
work on a Saturday (or Sunday)?
The ONLY reason Christians preach against the "sin" of homosexuality is
because it is such an easy one for heterosexuals (the majority) to avoid.
I GUARANTEE you that if the number of heterosexuals and homosexuals were
more equal, NOBODY would ever quote Leviticus 18:22, or 20:13, and
same-sex marriages would have been legal for AT LEAST the last 100 years.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it, hypocrite!
sin is sin and
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death but the gift
of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
You didn't read a word I said, did you? You just saw that I disagree with
you and decided to respond with a Bible verse that you thought would make
your point. Well, if you are using it to condemn homosexuals, then it
also condemns you.
Once again, I will say that the ONLY reason Christians preach against the
"sin" of homosexuality is because it is such an easy one for heterosexuals
(the majority) to avoid. I GUARANTEE you that if the number of
heterosexuals and homosexuals were more equal, NOBODY would ever quote
Leviticus 18:22, or 20:13, and same-sex marriages would have been legal
for AT LEAST the last 100 years.
--
Lurlean Lie #3:
Otherwise you wouldn't go to orgy's [sic] all the time the way you do.
news:7908c278.0310181718.ac2f573@posting.google.com
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| User: "Jim Ledford" |
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| Title: Re: Are YOU a Homophobe? If so, can you answer THESE Questions? |
10 Apr 2004 12:44:23 PM |
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Bill Baker wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
Bill Baker wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
[snip]
my research has lead me to understand they, the homosexual, simply
wish to have rights same as the married heterosexual. ie: wills,
right to visit in hospital, parental rights, property rights. I
am a Christian and with that I am unable to support homosexuality
as a life style.
Then don't do it.
the best I'm going to be able to do is going to be to show
them God's love and forgiveness. the healing rest with
their choice to receive. http://www.crossministry.org/index.htm
BTW, what exactly is a 'homosexual life style [sic]'
Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he
lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an
abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their
blood shall be upon them.
and how does it differ
from a 'heterosexual life style?'
the difference is in the choice one makes as to
abide by God's laws or not to abide.
Give me a fscking break!
Bill, I really hate it when this happens. the parts bin where
the replacement "fscking breaks" are kept is empty. you're in
luck if'en you don't mine one of those cheap made in china
kind-of-sort-a copies, because I can have you one here first thing
Monday morning. oh, and with our new shipping procedure we can
ship it right on out to your Farm. :)
ALL Christians disobey the Bible on a regular
basis. There are NO exceptions. When was the last time you ate lobster?
Shaved? Ate pork? A cheeseburger? Wore clothing with mixed fibers? Did
work on a Saturday (or Sunday)?
The ONLY reason Christians preach against the "sin" of homosexuality is
because it is such an easy one for heterosexuals (the majority) to avoid.
I GUARANTEE you that if the number of heterosexuals and homosexuals were
more equal, NOBODY would ever quote Leviticus 18:22, or 20:13, and
same-sex marriages would have been legal for AT LEAST the last 100 years.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it, hypocrite!
sin is sin and
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death but the gift
of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
You didn't read a word I said, did you?
yes I did read your words and from them I felt, or thought,
or think, you are trying to weight sin against sin. my
reply to that was sin is sin
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death but the gift
of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
the point is, IMHO, no one sin is worse than any other
sin in the eyes of God because
as Rom 6:23 states, "the wages of sin is death".
You just saw that I disagree with
you and decided to respond with a Bible verse that you thought would make
your point. Well, if you are using it to condemn homosexuals,
I no longer wish to condemn the homosexuals, because I now realize this:
Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God
then it also condemns you.
Once again, I will say that the ONLY reason Christians preach against the
"sin" of homosexuality is because it is such an easy one for heterosexuals
(the majority) to avoid.
I had not heard much preaching concerning the homosexuals until
after the homosexuals attempted to gain the right of marriage in
a church of God. the churches I attend usually hang with the
fact that we are ALL sinners who have each in our own way fallen
short of the glory of God.
I GUARANTEE you that if the number of
heterosexuals and homosexuals were more equal, NOBODY would ever quote
Leviticus 18:22, or 20:13, and same-sex marriages would have been legal
for AT LEAST the last 100 years.
Bill, have a nice day because I'm wishing for you a nice day
with some joy and happiness in your heart so others might see
a smile on your face and the joy of life in your soul.
Jim
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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10 Apr 2004 07:39:31 PM |
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 13:44:23 -0400, Jim Ledford <jimled@bellsouth.net>
wrote in message news:<40783277.A665DAB0@bellsouth.net>:
Bill Baker wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
Bill Baker wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
[snip]
my research has lead me to understand they, the homosexual, simply
wish to have rights same as the married heterosexual. ie: wills,
right to visit in hospital, parental rights, property rights. I
am a Christian and with that I am unable to support homosexuality
as a life style.
Then don't do it.
the best I'm going to be able to do is going to be to show
them God's love and forgiveness. the healing rest with
their choice to receive. http://www.crossministry.org/index.htm
BTW, what exactly is a 'homosexual life style [sic]'
Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he
lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an
abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their
blood shall be upon them.
and how does it differ
from a 'heterosexual life style?'
the difference is in the choice one makes as to
abide by God's laws or not to abide.
Give me a fscking break!
Bill, I really hate it when this happens. the parts bin where
the replacement "fscking breaks" are kept is empty. you're in
luck if'en you don't mine one of those cheap made in china
kind-of-sort-a copies, because I can have you one here first thing
Monday morning. oh, and with our new shipping procedure we can
ship it right on out to your Farm. :)
ALL Christians disobey the Bible on a regular
basis. There are NO exceptions. When was the last time you ate lobster?
Shaved? Ate pork? A cheeseburger? Wore clothing with mixed fibers? Did
work on a Saturday (or Sunday)?
The ONLY reason Christians preach against the "sin" of homosexuality is
because it is such an easy one for heterosexuals (the majority) to avoid.
I GUARANTEE you that if the number of heterosexuals and homosexuals were
more equal, NOBODY would ever quote Leviticus 18:22, or 20:13, and
same-sex marriages would have been legal for AT LEAST the last 100 years.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it, hypocrite!
sin is sin and
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death but the gift
of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
You didn't read a word I said, did you?
yes I did read your words and from them I felt, or thought,
or think, you are trying to weight sin against sin. my
reply to that was sin is sin
So, in other words, homosexuality is equivalent to eating a cheeseburger,
wearing clothes woven with two different fibers, and shaving.
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death but the gift
of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
the point is, IMHO, no one sin is worse than any other
sin in the eyes of God because
as Rom 6:23 states, "the wages of sin is death".
Exactly. And, according to Matthew 7:1, nobody has the right to judge
anybody else.
You just saw that I disagree with
you and decided to respond with a Bible verse that you thought would make
your point. Well, if you are using it to condemn homosexuals,
I no longer wish to condemn the homosexuals, because I now realize this:
Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God
I am happy to see that you understand.
then it also condemns you.
Once again, I will say that the ONLY reason Christians preach against the
"sin" of homosexuality is because it is such an easy one for heterosexuals
(the majority) to avoid.
I had not heard much preaching concerning the homosexuals until
after the homosexuals attempted to gain the right of marriage in
a church of God. the churches I attend usually hang with the
fact that we are ALL sinners who have each in our own way fallen
short of the glory of God.
I GUARANTEE you that if the number of
heterosexuals and homosexuals were more equal, NOBODY would ever quote
Leviticus 18:22, or 20:13, and same-sex marriages would have been legal
for AT LEAST the last 100 years.
Bill, have a nice day because I'm wishing for you a nice day
with some joy and happiness in your heart so others might see
a smile on your face and the joy of life in your soul.
Jim
Thank you, Jim. I apologize if I sounded a bit harsh, but I have learned
that when debating with Christians, they can sometimes be a bit
hard-headed. Many times they ignore Jesus' message of love and
forgiveness, and replace it with Biblical literalism and pedantry.
--
Lurlean Lie #2:
you're evil and go to orgy's [sic] all the time.
news:7908c278.0310191156.1f1800fa@posting.google.com
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Bill Baker wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
Bill Baker wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
Bill Baker wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
[snip]
my research has lead me to understand they, the homosexual, simply
wish to have rights same as the married heterosexual. ie: wills,
right to visit in hospital, parental rights, property rights. I
am a Christian and with that I am unable to support homosexuality
as a life style.
Then don't do it.
the best I'm going to be able to do is going to be to show
them God's love and forgiveness. the healing rest with
their choice to receive. http://www.crossministry.org/index.htm
BTW, what exactly is a 'homosexual life style [sic]'
Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he
lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an
abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their
blood shall be upon them.
and how does it differ
from a 'heterosexual life style?'
the difference is in the choice one makes as to
abide by God's laws or not to abide.
Give me a fscking break!
Bill, I really hate it when this happens. the parts bin where
the replacement "fscking breaks" are kept is empty. you're in
luck if'en you don't mine one of those cheap made in china
kind-of-sort-a copies, because I can have you one here first thing
Monday morning. oh, and with our new shipping procedure we can
ship it right on out to your Farm. :)
ALL Christians disobey the Bible on a regular
basis. There are NO exceptions. When was the last time you ate lobster?
Shaved? Ate pork? A cheeseburger? Wore clothing with mixed fibers? Did
work on a Saturday (or Sunday)?
The ONLY reason Christians preach against the "sin" of homosexuality is
because it is such an easy one for heterosexuals (the majority) to avoid.
I GUARANTEE you that if the number of heterosexuals and homosexuals were
more equal, NOBODY would ever quote Leviticus 18:22, or 20:13, and
same-sex marriages would have been legal for AT LEAST the last 100 years.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it, hypocrite!
sin is sin and
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death but the gift
of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
You didn't read a word I said, did you?
yes I did read your words and from them I felt, or thought,
or think, you are trying to weight sin against sin. my
reply to that was sin is sin
So, in other words, homosexuality is equivalent to eating a cheeseburger,
wearing clothes woven with two different fibers, and shaving.
all sin is sin and the "wages of sin is death". if I Jim a lowly
stinking human were to attempt to rank sin so as to determine the
worst sin, then I'd say the sin of not accepting Jesus as your
savior would be the worst. do please remember, I'm not qualified
to rank sin or judge sin.
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death but the gift
of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
the point is, IMHO, no one sin is worse than any other
sin in the eyes of God because
as Rom 6:23 states, "the wages of sin is death".
Exactly. And, according to Matthew 7:1, nobody has the right to judge
anybody else.
Mat 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's
eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Jim believes in Christian fellowship. that is to say, we help
each other through knowing God's love of us ALL.
:) SO then, if'en you'll operate the crane and help pull this
beam out of MY eye, then in return for your act of kindness I'm
going to want to help you with the mote. We help each other out
of Love for one another. it should not ever be a situation where
one of us is trying to belittle the other by pointing out the 'mote'
and then trying to act as if 'we' are ourselves free of sin.
I Jim right now stand before God Almighty as Jim the sinner. I am
only able to rejoice in my salvation by my own faith in Jesus Christ
as my Lord and Savior. Jesus is God's gift to me and to you too.
Jesus is God's gift as a part of God's great plan to keep us out of
hell, for all of mankind. those who can accept by their own faith
will receive salvation. it is only God's will and God's plan that I
have tried to convey, deliver and sent out God's message so that ALL
who by their own faith in Jesus can be saved.
You just saw that I disagree with
you and decided to respond with a Bible verse that you thought would make
your point. Well, if you are using it to condemn homosexuals,
I no longer wish to condemn the homosexuals, because I now realize this:
Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God
I am happy to see that you understand.
a better life can be had by all when they stop trying to do
God's job. God will judge every man and every man will bend
his knee before God and be judged by God. it is the destiny
of all mankind. my place in God's plan is to spread God's
word so that others may be judged by God and then be allowed
to enter into God's Kingdom. it is not my job to judge, that
is God's job and God's job alone. no man has that job
concerning the soul of another man.
then it also condemns you.
Once again, I will say that the ONLY reason Christians preach against the
"sin" of homosexuality is because it is such an easy one for heterosexuals
(the majority) to avoid.
I had not heard much preaching concerning the homosexuals until
after the homosexuals attempted to gain the right of marriage in
a church of God. the churches I attend usually hang with the
fact that we are ALL sinners who have each in our own way fallen
short of the glory of God.
I GUARANTEE you that if the number of
heterosexuals and homosexuals were more equal, NOBODY would ever quote
Leviticus 18:22, or 20:13, and same-sex marriages would have been legal
for AT LEAST the last 100 years.
Bill, have a nice day because I'm wishing for you a nice day
with some joy and happiness in your heart so others might see
a smile on your face and the joy of life in your soul.
Thank you, Jim. I apologize if I sounded a bit harsh, but I have learned
that when debating with Christians, they can sometimes be a bit
hard-headed. Many times they ignore Jesus' message of love and
forgiveness, and replace it with Biblical literalism and pedantry.
Bill, your apology is accepted and you have my full
unconditional forgiveness. give those thoughts of
yours no more room in your mind, body and life.
replace them with a joyful noise unto our Lord God Almighty.
Blessed may all your days be,
Jim
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14 Apr 2004 11:58:21 AM |
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 13:15:07 -0400, Jim Ledford <jimled@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God
I am happy to see that you understand.
a better life can be had by all when they stop trying to do
God's job. God will judge every man and every man will bend
his knee before God and be judged by God. it is the destiny
of all mankind. my place in God's plan is to spread God's
word so that others may be judged by God and then be allowed
to enter into God's Kingdom. it is not my job to judge, that
is God's job and God's job alone. no man has that job
concerning the soul of another man.
A very gracious and humble post. I hope you don't mind I snipped most of it so I could respond to
just this portion.
Not to push any buttons, but, with your christ-like attitude, where do you stand on the government
allowing same-sex marriages? (sorry.. this question sounds a bit sarcastic, but it's not meant to
be at all.)
Thanks,
James, Seattle
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14 Apr 2004 12:48:17 PM |
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RainLover wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God
I am happy to see that you understand.
a better life can be had by all when they stop trying to do
God's job. God will judge every man and every man will bend
his knee before God and be judged by God. it is the destiny
of all mankind. my place in God's plan is to spread God's
word so that others may be judged by God and then be allowed
to enter into God's Kingdom. it is not my job to judge, that
is God's job and God's job alone. no man has that job
concerning the soul of another man.
A very gracious and humble post. I hope you don't mind I snipped most of it so I could respond to
just this portion.
Not to push any buttons, but, with your christ-like attitude, where do you stand on the government
allowing same-sex marriages? (sorry.. this question sounds a bit sarcastic, but it's not meant to
be at all.)
Thanks,
James, Seattle
since governments are of man then let them do the things that man is of.
or as Jesus replied,
Mat 22:17
Mat 22:18
Mat 22:19
Mat 22:20
Mat 22:21 They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he
unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which
are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.
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10 Apr 2004 12:39:21 PM |
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On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 15:46:58 -0400, Jim Ledford <jimled@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death but the gift
of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
This one's always bother the hell out of me (pardon the pun).
Would SOMEONE in the near future correct this verse to read:
"The wages of sin ARE death". "wages is" is just so... so.. WRONG!!!! Grrrr
James, Seattle
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10 Apr 2004 12:48:53 PM |
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RainLover wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death but the gift
of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
This one's always bother the hell out of me (pardon the pun).
Would SOMEONE in the near future correct this verse to read:
"The wages of sin ARE death". "wages is" is just so... so.. WRONG!!!! Grrrr
James, Seattle
the Bible is not a lesson in proper English and I'm not either.
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09 Apr 2004 11:18:01 AM |
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On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 04:36:22 -0400, Jim Ledford <jimled@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
[snip]
my research has lead me to understand they, the homosexual, simply
wish to have rights same as the married heterosexual. ie: wills,
right to visit in hospital, parental rights, property rights. I
am a Christian and with that I am unable to support homosexuality
as a life style.
Then don't do it.
the best I'm going to be able to do is going to be to show
them God's love and forgiveness. the healing rest with
their choice to receive. http://www.crossmintry.org/index.htm
That's the BEST you can do? Sad.
BTW, what exactly is a 'homosexual life style [sic]'
Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he
lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an
abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their
blood shall be upon them.
What a hypocrite! Maybe that's to harsh, maybe you're just a liar. You throw up PART of leviticus
that supports your homophobia, but leave out the OTHER ABOMINATIONS!
What about eat ting shellfish?
What about wearing mixed fibers?
I'm sure you're aware of the litany of outmoded "abominations" yet you feel you can use one and
dismiss the others. I think hypocrite fits.
and how does it differ
from a 'heterosexual life style?'
the difference is in the choice one makes as to
abide by God's laws or not to abide.
How many of God's Laws to YOU flaunt in His face on a regular basis? I think I remember reading
something Jesus had to say about the one without sins getting to cast stones.
James, Seattle
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09 Apr 2004 11:08:29 AM |
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On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 17:33:41 -0700, "Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote:
"Jim Ledford" <jimled@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:4075CDE5.27BA41D8@bellsouth.net...
[snip]
my research has lead me to understand they, the homosexual, simply
wish to have rights same as the married heterosexual. ie: wills,
right to visit in hospital, parental rights, property rights. I
am a Christian and with that I am unable to support homosexuality
as a life style.
Then don't do it.
BTW, what exactly is a 'homosexual life style [sic]' and how does it differ
from a 'heterosexual life style?'
If I may, Dennis... I'm not homosexual myself, but I have many friends that are, and I've seen how
MANY of them life up close and personal. Here's their Lifestyle(s):
Most of them Own their homes.
They all have two cars.
Some have pets.
Most of them are two income households.
With one exception, they all dress Very Well.
One is a member of the city council
3 are teachers.
2 work at microsoft
about 8 are artists of some sort.
2 are train engineers, what are the odds of that?
They all complain about taxes.
They love working out in their yards.
They love having people over for dinner.
One of them is an alcoholic and everyone knows by him... sad.
One couple has a kid, but we're not close friends with them... my wife and I just don't get the
'kid' thing.
Now, I'm SURE by 'lifestyle" Dave's talking about how they have SEX... suffice it to say, my wife
and I are much kinkier than 90% of our gay friends.
Nasty Gay lifestyle!!! We should kick them all out of the USA! I hear Canada likes gay lifestyles
there.
James, Seattle
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09 Apr 2004 02:47:43 PM |
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RainLover wrote:
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
[snip]
my research has lead me to understand they, the homosexual, simply
wish to have rights same as the married heterosexual. ie: wills,
right to visit in hospital, parental rights, property rights. I
am a Christian and with that I am unable to support homosexuality
as a life style.
Then don't do it.
BTW, what exactly is a 'homosexual life style [sic]' and how does it differ
from a 'heterosexual life style?'
If I may, Dennis... I'm not homosexual myself,
what exactly was it that compelled you to state you are not a homosexual?
[....]
James, Seattle
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10 Apr 2004 12:41:09 PM |
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On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 15:47:43 -0400, Jim Ledford <jimled@bellsouth.net> wrote:
BTW, what exactly is a 'homosexual life style [sic]' and how does it differ
from a 'heterosexual life style?'
If I may, Dennis... I'm not homosexual myself,
what exactly was it that compelled you to state you are not a homosexual?
[....]
It was a take off of the television cliche: "I"m not a doctor, but I play one on TV." Nothing
more.
James, not-a-homosexual-myself, Seattle.
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10 Apr 2004 12:52:10 PM |
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RainLover wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
RainLover wrote:
[....]
If I may, Dennis... I'm not homosexual myself,
what exactly was it that compelled you to state you
are not a homosexual?
It was a take off of the television cliche: "I"m not a doctor, but
I play one on TV." Nothing more.
James, not-a-homosexual-myself, Seattle.
ok.
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08 Apr 2004 05:22:06 PM |
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Jim Ledford wrote:
Light Templar wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
Draccus874 wrote:
[....]
The Difference is that homosexuality involves adults that
consent to the different form of love they share, just like
heterosexual couples I might add, these are relationships between
equals. Gay
Marriage involves two adults who wish to seek legal recognition of
their commitment to one another, just as heterosexual marriage
does, such civil contracts should not be subject to an arbitrary
and religiously based discrimination. No one is telling Church's
they are required to perform marriages for homosexuals. There is a
difference between the civil marriage and the religious marriage,
what homosexuals are seeking is the former not the later. Civil
marriage is a recognized contract between the couple and the
State. Religious Marriage is a contract between the couple and the
Divine. We are a Nation of law and have made the commitment not to
mix the two; State and Religion both are served best when they are
left Separate.
why is [same sex union] with ALL rights and privileges
being the same as a marriage unacceptable to the homosexual?
It's not unacceptable for all homosexuals, but it does create a
"separate but equal" institution of the type created by segregation
back in the last century. It presupposes that some of our citizens
are less than other citizens.
my research has lead me to understand they, the homosexual, simply
wish to have rights same as the married heterosexual. ie: wills,
right to visit in hospital, parental rights, property rights.
Quite true, and many homosexuals don't have a problem with the institution
of civil marriage, as long as it is legally equal in everyway to civil
marriage.
I
am a Christian and with that I am unable to support homosexuality
as a life style.
No one asked you to.
Therefore, I can not support the concept of
[same sex marriage]. I do however fell it best that the homosexual
be allowed to live in peace.
As long as they live in peace as second class citizens? The concepts of
religious marriage, and civil marriage, are already two seperable issues.
I will admit there was a time in my
not so distant past where I would attempt to belittle an
opponent / adversary by using the sang words to call them a
homosexual.
That's a step in the right direction...
with God's help I plan on stopped that behavior in me.
God is love.
Dan Quayle is still in first place for all time funny quotes.
Mr. Potato with or without an 'e'
True.
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"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons
of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use
against our friends, against our allies, and against us."
Vice President Speaks at VFW 103rd National Convention, White House
(8/26/2002).
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09 Apr 2004 03:42:00 AM |
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Jim Ledford wrote:
Draccus874 wrote:
[....]
The Difference is that homosexuality involves adults that
consent to the different form of love they share, just like
heterosexual couples I might add, these are relationships between
equals. Gay
Marriage involves two adults who wish to seek legal recognition of
their commitment to one another, just as heterosexual marriage does,
such civil contracts should not be subject to an arbitrary and
religiously based discrimination. No one is telling Church's they are
required to perform marriages for homosexuals. There is a difference
between the civil marriage and the religious marriage, what
homosexuals are seeking is the former not the later. Civil marriage is
a recognized contract between the couple and the State. Religious
Marriage is a contract between the couple and the Divine. We are a
Nation of law and have made the commitment not to mix the two; State
and Religion both are served best when they are left Separate.
why is [same sex union] with ALL rights and privileges
being the same as a marriage unacceptable to the homosexual?
Why can't gays eat at the same table with you, do you think you're
superior in some way?
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Fritz
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Religion = tyranny.
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09 Apr 2004 03:52:08 AM |
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Fritz wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
[....]
why is [same sex union] with ALL rights and privileges
being the same as a marriage unacceptable to the homosexual?
Why can't gays eat at the same table with you, do you think you're
superior in some way?
would you eat at the same table with one who had murdered the
soul of another and then not attempt to point out their wrong?
does pointing out a wrong make you superior in some way?
we all fall short of the Glory of God and it is best we
help each other to realize and improve.
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| User: "Fritz" |
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10 Apr 2004 02:24:15 AM |
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Jim Ledford wrote:
Fritz wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
[....]
why is [same sex union] with ALL rights and privileges
being the same as a marriage unacceptable to the homosexual?
Why can't gays eat at the same table with you, do you think you're
superior in some way?
would you eat at the same table with one who had murdered the
soul of another and then not attempt to point out their wrong?
i'm sorry, i didn't know you was guilty of murder, of course i
don't want to eat at the same table as you.
does pointing out a wrong make you superior in some way?
that sounds like the same question i just asked you.
we all fall short of the Glory of God and it is best we
help each other to realize and improve.
sorry, but i didn't fall short of this glory.
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Fritz
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Religion = tyranny.
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11 Apr 2004 02:05:35 PM |
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Fritz wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
Fritz wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
[....]
why is [same sex union] with ALL rights and privileges
being the same as a marriage unacceptable to the homosexual?
Why can't gays eat at the same table with you, do you think you're
superior in some way?
would you eat at the same table with one who had murdered the
soul of another and then not attempt to point out their wrong?
i'm sorry, i didn't know you was guilty of murder, of course i
don't want to eat at the same table as you.
does pointing out a wrong make you superior in some way?
that sounds like the same question i just asked you.
we all fall short of the Glory of God and it is best we
help each other to realize and improve.
sorry, but i didn't fall short of this glory.
I have decided you are a nonbeliever and as much as it saddens
me with the knowing then I must say, there's nothing I can do
or say that is going to change your destiny. enjoy your life
here in the flesh on God's earth, it's all you'll have until by
faith you are able to believe in Lord God almighty as the only God
who did create all and whose laws we are expected to obey.
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Fritz
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11 Apr 2004 02:13:22 PM |
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"Jim Ledford" <jimled@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:407996FF.A5BB49C5@bellsouth.net...
Fritz wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
Fritz wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
[....]
why is [same sex union] with ALL rights and privileges
being the same as a marriage unacceptable to the homosexual?
Why can't gays eat at the same table with you, do you think you're
superior in some way?
would you eat at the same table with one who had murdered the
soul of another and then not attempt to point out their wrong?
i'm sorry, i didn't know you was guilty of murder, of course i
don't want to eat at the same table as you.
does pointing out a wrong make you superior in some way?
that sounds like the same question i just asked you.
we all fall short of the Glory of God and it is best we
help each other to realize and improve.
sorry, but i didn't fall short of this glory.
I have decided you are a nonbeliever and as much as it saddens
me with the knowing then I must say, there's nothing I can do
or say that is going to change your destiny. enjoy your life
here in the flesh on God's earth, it's all you'll have until by
faith you are able to believe in Lord God almighty as the only God
who did create all and whose laws we are expected to obey.
Well said and true
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Fritz
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| Title: Re: Are YOU a Homophobe? If so, can you answer THESE Questions? |
12 Apr 2004 01:37:57 AM |
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Osprey wrote:
"Jim Ledford" <jimled@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:407996FF.A5BB49C5@bellsouth.net...
Fritz wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
Fritz wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
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why is [same sex union] with ALL rights and privileges
being the same as a marriage unacceptable to the homosexual?
Why can't gays eat at the same table with you, do you think you're
superior in some way?
would you eat at the same table with one who had murdered the
soul of another and then not attempt to point out their wrong?
i'm sorry, i didn't know you was guilty of murder, of course i
don't want to eat at the same table as you.
does pointing out a wrong make you superior in some way?
that sounds like the same question i just asked you.
we all fall short of the Glory of God and it is best we
help each other to realize and improve.
sorry, but i didn't fall short of this glory.
I have decided you are a nonbeliever and as much as it saddens
me with the knowing then I must say, there's nothing I can do
or say that is going to change your destiny. enjoy your life
here in the flesh on God's earth, it's all you'll have until by
faith you are able to believe in Lord God almighty as the only God
who did create all and whose laws we are expected to obey.
Well said and true
All I can say is , so what?
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Fritz
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Religion = tyranny.
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