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Science > Abortion |
| User: |
"Craig Chilton" |
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24 Jan 2004 02:55:55 PM |
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Re: Democrats for BUSH |
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:24:22 -0500,
Tate Gerard <tate23@bellsouth.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
"Work Work Work" <WWW@aol.com> wrote:
It just shows everyone that most normal Americans
support BUSH and his policies.
My, you *are* a DELUDED one, aren't you?
They want a country with Family VALUES and a stop to
the deviants who want to turn America into a land of freaks.
Yep. And HATRED is **not** a family value.
So here's a solution to the problem you just described.
All you deviant and control-freakish RRR cult freaks need to
do is move up to Canada. Canadians are a good-hearted people,
with a great sense of humor. So you can give them something
NEW to laugh at!
Meanwhile, you'll be hearing us laugh at you all the way from down
here in the USA once we OUST Bush this fall, take our country back,
and once again have RESPECT for personal and private individual
liberties and rights.
"Hasta la vista, Warmonger-in-Thief!"
Isn't [same-sex] marriage supposed to be legal in Canada?
It is. In many way, Canada is FAR advanced over the USA. That's
one of the ways.
If that is true why would anyone want to move there unless
they were homo?
Probably because living in a FAIR-minded, sensible, and egalitarian
country is ALWAYS preferable to living in one containing mindless and
hateful bigots, all else being equal.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 01:42:20 PM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:29:57 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <u4WdnagVr7U2Tq3dRVn-sA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:o0e030dbauaji2tldqkql68fs9h0nccdgi@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:28:54 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
Sure you do, you just want to play your game and deny it.
If you didn't fear God,
Atheists don't believe in your imaginary sky-pixie, Einstein.
So you know 100% that we have no soul that lives on after death?
Absolutley positive? Can you prove it?
Can you prove a soul exists?
Nope, can you prove a soul doesn't exist?
(watch the avoidance of that question)
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| User: "Shawn \Me\ Hearn" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 02:26:27 PM |
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In article <1_SdnaZsi8Z0gazd4p2dnA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:06r130d2i4ies9m2s1a9vv3j861jeibrb5@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:29:57 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <u4WdnagVr7U2Tq3dRVn-sA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:o0e030dbauaji2tldqkql68fs9h0nccdgi@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:28:54 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
Sure you do, you just want to play your game and deny it.
If you didn't fear God,
Atheists don't believe in your imaginary sky-pixie, Einstein.
So you know 100% that we have no soul that lives on after death?
Absolutley positive? Can you prove it?
Can you prove a soul exists?
Nope, can you prove a soul doesn't exist?
So you have no proof that a soul exists, yet you believe in it.
I have no proof that a soul does not exist, but than again, I also have
no proof that Superman and Batman are fictional characters.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 07:55:45 PM |
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"Shawn "Me" Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-05BE60.15262716022004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <1_SdnaZsi8Z0gazd4p2dnA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:06r130d2i4ies9m2s1a9vv3j861jeibrb5@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:29:57 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <u4WdnagVr7U2Tq3dRVn-sA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:o0e030dbauaji2tldqkql68fs9h0nccdgi@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:28:54 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
Sure you do, you just want to play your game and deny it.
If you didn't fear God,
Atheists don't believe in your imaginary sky-pixie, Einstein.
So you know 100% that we have no soul that lives on after death?
Absolutley positive? Can you prove it?
Can you prove a soul exists?
Nope, can you prove a soul doesn't exist?
So you have no proof that a soul exists, yet you believe in it.
Yep, I do think there is strong evidence though to show a soul does exist.
I have no proof that a soul does not exist, but than again, I also have
no proof that Superman and Batman are fictional characters.
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| User: "Shawn \Me\ Hearn" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
19 Feb 2004 05:44:55 AM |
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In article <TJOdnZp_ebDx6azdRVn_iw@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Shawn "Me" Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-05BE60.15262716022004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <1_SdnaZsi8Z0gazd4p2dnA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:06r130d2i4ies9m2s1a9vv3j861jeibrb5@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:29:57 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <u4WdnagVr7U2Tq3dRVn-sA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:o0e030dbauaji2tldqkql68fs9h0nccdgi@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:28:54 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
Sure you do, you just want to play your game and deny it.
If you didn't fear God,
Atheists don't believe in your imaginary sky-pixie, Einstein.
So you know 100% that we have no soul that lives on after death?
Absolutley positive? Can you prove it?
Can you prove a soul exists?
Nope, can you prove a soul doesn't exist?
So you have no proof that a soul exists, yet you believe in it.
Yep, I do think there is strong evidence though to show a soul does exist.
Okay. So what is this "strong evidence?" If the evidence is strong, you
surely can share it with the people who read this newsgroup.
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 02:11:35 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:42:20 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <1_SdnaZsi8Z0gazd4p2dnA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:06r130d2i4ies9m2s1a9vv3j861jeibrb5@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:29:57 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <u4WdnagVr7U2Tq3dRVn-sA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:o0e030dbauaji2tldqkql68fs9h0nccdgi@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:28:54 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
Sure you do, you just want to play your game and deny it.
If you didn't fear God,
Atheists don't believe in your imaginary sky-pixie, Einstein.
So you know 100% that we have no soul that lives on after death?
Absolutley positive? Can you prove it?
Can you prove a soul exists?
Nope, can you prove a soul doesn't exist?
(watch the avoidance of that question)
But I did not it doesn't. On the other hand, you were talking about a
'soul that lives on after death' which is a clear statement that one
does exist. Otherwise how could it live on after death?
Therefore it is your burden of proof, which you will:
1. Deny
2. Avoid
or
3. Ignore
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 07:51:56 PM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:aq82301tvn25uemrq0lspea7o1eoc0rq0f@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:42:20 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <1_SdnaZsi8Z0gazd4p2dnA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:06r130d2i4ies9m2s1a9vv3j861jeibrb5@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:29:57 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <u4WdnagVr7U2Tq3dRVn-sA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:o0e030dbauaji2tldqkql68fs9h0nccdgi@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:28:54 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
Sure you do, you just want to play your game and deny it.
If you didn't fear God,
Atheists don't believe in your imaginary sky-pixie, Einstein.
So you know 100% that we have no soul that lives on after death?
Absolutley positive? Can you prove it?
Can you prove a soul exists?
Nope, can you prove a soul doesn't exist?
(watch the avoidance of that question)
But I did not it doesn't. On the other hand, you were talking about a
'soul that lives on after death' which is a clear statement that one
does exist. Otherwise how could it live on after death?
Therefore it is your burden of proof, which you will:
1. Deny
2. Avoid
or
3. Ignore
Ahh, the old "burden of proof" line.
In other words
You can't prove a soul does or doesn't exist. You want to believe it
doesn't. But if you are asked to prove it doesn't, you
need to slip out of it quickly and place the burden of proof on someone
else.
Amazing.
No I can't prove a soul does exist. I do believe there is evidence that a
soul does exist though.
Near Death Experiences, many scientist do research on ghost sightings, and
so forth. I do believe there is more to research and question.
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 09:32:45 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:51:56 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <nr-dncff_-oV7qzdRVn-uw@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:aq82301tvn25uemrq0lspea7o1eoc0rq0f@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:42:20 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <1_SdnaZsi8Z0gazd4p2dnA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:06r130d2i4ies9m2s1a9vv3j861jeibrb5@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:29:57 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <u4WdnagVr7U2Tq3dRVn-sA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:o0e030dbauaji2tldqkql68fs9h0nccdgi@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:28:54 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
Sure you do, you just want to play your game and deny it.
If you didn't fear God,
Atheists don't believe in your imaginary sky-pixie, Einstein.
So you know 100% that we have no soul that lives on after death?
Absolutley positive? Can you prove it?
Can you prove a soul exists?
Nope, can you prove a soul doesn't exist?
(watch the avoidance of that question)
But I did not it doesn't. On the other hand, you were talking about a
'soul that lives on after death' which is a clear statement that one
does exist. Otherwise how could it live on after death?
Therefore it is your burden of proof, which you will:
1. Deny
2. Avoid
or
3. Ignore
Ahh, the old "burden of proof" line.
In other words
You can't prove a soul does or doesn't exist.
I have not said either way.
You want to believe it
doesn't. But if you are asked to prove it doesn't, you
need to slip out of it quickly and place the burden of proof on someone
else.
Amazing.
Not really. If I said a soul does not exist I would be expected to
prove it. But when someone talks about a soul or anything else as if
it does exist they should be prepared to prove their statement. This
doesn't seem to be a problem except in the area of religion where a
tremendous amount of squirming and frantic tap dancing seems to occur
regularly.
proving non-existence: when an arguer cannot provide the evidence for
his claims, he may challenge his opponent to prove it doesn't exist
(e.g., prove God doesn't exist; prove UFO's haven't visited earth,
etc.). Although one may prove non-existence in special limitations,
such as showing that a box does not contain certain items, one cannot
prove universal or absolute non-existence, or non-existence out of
ignorance. One cannot prove something that does not exist. The proof
of existence must come from those who make the claims.
http://www.nobeliefs.com/fallacies.htm
No I can't prove a soul does exist. I do believe there is evidence that a
soul does exist though.
Near Death Experiences, many scientist do research on ghost sightings, and
so forth. I do believe there is more to research and question.
None of which has ever been substantiated or reproduced.
.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
17 Feb 2004 08:16:29 AM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:51:56 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <nr-dncff_-oV7qzdRVn-uw@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:aq82301tvn25uemrq0lspea7o1eoc0rq0f@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:42:20 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <1_SdnaZsi8Z0gazd4p2dnA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:06r130d2i4ies9m2s1a9vv3j861jeibrb5@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:29:57 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <u4WdnagVr7U2Tq3dRVn-sA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:o0e030dbauaji2tldqkql68fs9h0nccdgi@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:28:54 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
Sure you do, you just want to play your game and deny it.
If you didn't fear God,
Atheists don't believe in your imaginary sky-pixie, Einstein.
So you know 100% that we have no soul that lives on after death?
Absolutley positive? Can you prove it?
Can you prove a soul exists?
Nope, can you prove a soul doesn't exist?
(watch the avoidance of that question)
But I did not it doesn't. On the other hand, you were talking about a
'soul that lives on after death' which is a clear statement that one
does exist. Otherwise how could it live on after death?
Therefore it is your burden of proof, which you will:
1. Deny
2. Avoid
or
3. Ignore
Ahh, the old "burden of proof" line.
In other words
You can't prove a soul does or doesn't exist.
I have not said either way.
O.k.
You want to believe it
doesn't. But if you are asked to prove it doesn't, you
need to slip out of it quickly and place the burden of proof on someone
else.
Amazing.
Not really. If I said a soul does not exist I would be expected to
prove it.
Well I can't, but I think there is evidence that suggest that we all do have
a soul.
And I leave it at that.
But when someone talks about a soul or anything else as if
it does exist they should be prepared to prove their statement. This
doesn't seem to be a problem except in the area of religion where a
tremendous amount of squirming and frantic tap dancing seems to occur
regularly.
proving non-existence: when an arguer cannot provide the evidence for
his claims, he may challenge his opponent to prove it doesn't exist
(e.g., prove God doesn't exist; prove UFO's haven't visited earth,
etc.). Although one may prove non-existence in special limitations,
such as showing that a box does not contain certain items, one cannot
prove universal or absolute non-existence, or non-existence out of
ignorance. One cannot prove something that does not exist. The proof
of existence must come from those who make the claims.
http://www.nobeliefs.com/fallacies.htm
No I can't prove a soul does exist. I do believe there is evidence that
a
soul does exist though.
Near Death Experiences, many scientist do research on ghost sightings,
and
so forth. I do believe there is more to research and question.
None of which has ever been substantiated or reproduced.
.
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| User: "Shawn \Me\ Hearn" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
19 Feb 2004 05:50:12 AM |
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In article <W_adnUHv9o6gv6_dRVn-jA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:2f2330588otfr0ktsg3gf6d5mlb3eqtakm@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:51:56 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <nr-dncff_-oV7qzdRVn-uw@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:aq82301tvn25uemrq0lspea7o1eoc0rq0f@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:42:20 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <1_SdnaZsi8Z0gazd4p2dnA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:06r130d2i4ies9m2s1a9vv3j861jeibrb5@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:29:57 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <u4WdnagVr7U2Tq3dRVn-sA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:o0e030dbauaji2tldqkql68fs9h0nccdgi@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:28:54 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
Sure you do, you just want to play your game and deny it.
If you didn't fear God,
Atheists don't believe in your imaginary sky-pixie, Einstein.
So you know 100% that we have no soul that lives on after death?
Absolutley positive? Can you prove it?
Can you prove a soul exists?
Nope, can you prove a soul doesn't exist?
(watch the avoidance of that question)
But I did not it doesn't. On the other hand, you were talking about a
'soul that lives on after death' which is a clear statement that one
does exist. Otherwise how could it live on after death?
Therefore it is your burden of proof, which you will:
1. Deny
2. Avoid
or
3. Ignore
Ahh, the old "burden of proof" line.
In other words
You can't prove a soul does or doesn't exist.
I have not said either way.
O.k.
You want to believe it
doesn't. But if you are asked to prove it doesn't, you
need to slip out of it quickly and place the burden of proof on someone
else.
Amazing.
Not really. If I said a soul does not exist I would be expected to
prove it.
Well I can't, but I think there is evidence that suggest that we all do have
a soul.
And I leave it at that.
So you are saying there is evidence, but you can't show it. And you will
"leave it at that" so in other words, you have no evidence that a soul
exists and you are dancing around the question. You cannot even define
what a soul actually is, much less prove your claim that it exists.
You may like to believe in things that are completely unsubstantiated,
but that does not mean others share your beliefs. Let me remind you
that I consider the existence of a soul, God, and anything spiritual to
be an open question. I make neither a claim that they exists, not a
claim that they do not exist so I have nothing to prove to anyone either
way.
.
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| User: "Slate" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
19 Feb 2004 11:54:35 AM |
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 06:50:12 -0500, "Shawn \"Me\" Hearn"
<srhi@comcast.net> wrote:
In article <W_adnUHv9o6gv6_dRVn-jA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:2f2330588otfr0ktsg3gf6d5mlb3eqtakm@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:51:56 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <nr-dncff_-oV7qzdRVn-uw@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:aq82301tvn25uemrq0lspea7o1eoc0rq0f@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:42:20 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <1_SdnaZsi8Z0gazd4p2dnA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:06r130d2i4ies9m2s1a9vv3j861jeibrb5@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:29:57 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <u4WdnagVr7U2Tq3dRVn-sA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:o0e030dbauaji2tldqkql68fs9h0nccdgi@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:28:54 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
Sure you do, you just want to play your game and deny it.
If you didn't fear God,
Atheists don't believe in your imaginary sky-pixie, Einstein.
So you know 100% that we have no soul that lives on after death?
Absolutley positive? Can you prove it?
Can you prove a soul exists?
Nope, can you prove a soul doesn't exist?
(watch the avoidance of that question)
But I did not it doesn't. On the other hand, you were talking about a
'soul that lives on after death' which is a clear statement that one
does exist. Otherwise how could it live on after death?
Therefore it is your burden of proof, which you will:
1. Deny
2. Avoid
or
3. Ignore
Ahh, the old "burden of proof" line.
In other words
You can't prove a soul does or doesn't exist.
I have not said either way.
O.k.
You want to believe it
doesn't. But if you are asked to prove it doesn't, you
need to slip out of it quickly and place the burden of proof on someone
else.
Amazing.
Not really. If I said a soul does not exist I would be expected to
prove it.
Well I can't, but I think there is evidence that suggest that we all do have
a soul.
And I leave it at that.
So you are saying there is evidence, but you can't show it. And you will
"leave it at that" so in other words, you have no evidence that a soul
exists and you are dancing around the question. You cannot even define
what a soul actually is, much less prove your claim that it exists.
This is typical of Osprey's replies, regarding the religious claims he
makes. When I've asked him to substantiate similar claims in the past,
he either has no answer, or accused me of being
anti-religion/Christian, narrow minded, etc. Expect no more from him
on this particular issue. I've always been a questioner, and have
tried to separate truth from fiction. He'll never let truth get in the
way of his delusions, and on occasion demand that you disprove
what he says.
Slate
You may like to believe in things that are completely unsubstantiated,
but that does not mean others share your beliefs. Let me remind you
that I consider the existence of a soul, God, and anything spiritual to
be an open question. I make neither a claim that they exists, not a
claim that they do not exist so I have nothing to prove to anyone either
way.
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19 Feb 2004 02:07:48 PM |
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"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:vcg9309glalottp2igdlfhp81f0dnnk958@4ax.com...
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 06:50:12 -0500, "Shawn \"Me\" Hearn"
<srhi@comcast.net> wrote:
In article <W_adnUHv9o6gv6_dRVn-jA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:2f2330588otfr0ktsg3gf6d5mlb3eqtakm@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:51:56 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <nr-dncff_-oV7qzdRVn-uw@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:aq82301tvn25uemrq0lspea7o1eoc0rq0f@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:42:20 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<1_SdnaZsi8Z0gazd4p2dnA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:06r130d2i4ies9m2s1a9vv3j861jeibrb5@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:29:57 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<u4WdnagVr7U2Tq3dRVn-sA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:o0e030dbauaji2tldqkql68fs9h0nccdgi@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:28:54 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
Sure you do, you just want to play your game and deny it.
If you didn't fear God,
Atheists don't believe in your imaginary sky-pixie,
Einstein.
So you know 100% that we have no soul that lives on after
death?
Absolutley positive? Can you prove it?
Can you prove a soul exists?
Nope, can you prove a soul doesn't exist?
(watch the avoidance of that question)
But I did not it doesn't. On the other hand, you were talking
about a
'soul that lives on after death' which is a clear statement that
one
does exist. Otherwise how could it live on after death?
Therefore it is your burden of proof, which you will:
1. Deny
2. Avoid
or
3. Ignore
Ahh, the old "burden of proof" line.
In other words
You can't prove a soul does or doesn't exist.
I have not said either way.
O.k.
You want to believe it
doesn't. But if you are asked to prove it doesn't, you
need to slip out of it quickly and place the burden of proof on
someone
else.
Amazing.
Not really. If I said a soul does not exist I would be expected to
prove it.
Well I can't, but I think there is evidence that suggest that we all do
have
a soul.
And I leave it at that.
So you are saying there is evidence, but you can't show it. And you will
"leave it at that" so in other words, you have no evidence that a soul
exists and you are dancing around the question. You cannot even define
what a soul actually is, much less prove your claim that it exists.
This is typical of Osprey's replies, regarding the religious claims he
makes. When I've asked him to substantiate similar claims in the past,
he either has no answer, or accused me of being
Because it isn't worth the stupidity and the waste of typing.
If I try to explain why I think a soul exist, nothing but flamatory remarks
comes back.
If you don't like it, so be it.
anti-religion/Christian, narrow minded, etc. Expect no more from him
on this particular issue. I've always been a questioner, and have
tried to separate truth from fiction. He'll never let truth get in the
way of his delusions, and on occasion demand that you disprove
what he says.
You just proven my point.
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| User: "Slate" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
20 Feb 2004 08:18:01 AM |
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:07:48 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:vcg9309glalottp2igdlfhp81f0dnnk958@4ax.com...
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 06:50:12 -0500, "Shawn \"Me\" Hearn"
<srhi@comcast.net> wrote:
In article <W_adnUHv9o6gv6_dRVn-jA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:2f2330588otfr0ktsg3gf6d5mlb3eqtakm@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:51:56 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <nr-dncff_-oV7qzdRVn-uw@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:aq82301tvn25uemrq0lspea7o1eoc0rq0f@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:42:20 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<1_SdnaZsi8Z0gazd4p2dnA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:06r130d2i4ies9m2s1a9vv3j861jeibrb5@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:29:57 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<u4WdnagVr7U2Tq3dRVn-sA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:o0e030dbauaji2tldqkql68fs9h0nccdgi@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:28:54 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
Sure you do, you just want to play your game and deny it.
If you didn't fear God,
Atheists don't believe in your imaginary sky-pixie,
Einstein.
So you know 100% that we have no soul that lives on after
death?
Absolutley positive? Can you prove it?
Can you prove a soul exists?
Nope, can you prove a soul doesn't exist?
(watch the avoidance of that question)
But I did not it doesn't. On the other hand, you were talking
about a
'soul that lives on after death' which is a clear statement that
one
does exist. Otherwise how could it live on after death?
Therefore it is your burden of proof, which you will:
1. Deny
2. Avoid
or
3. Ignore
Ahh, the old "burden of proof" line.
In other words
You can't prove a soul does or doesn't exist.
I have not said either way.
O.k.
You want to believe it
doesn't. But if you are asked to prove it doesn't, you
need to slip out of it quickly and place the burden of proof on
someone
else.
Amazing.
Not really. If I said a soul does not exist I would be expected to
prove it.
Well I can't, but I think there is evidence that suggest that we all do
have
a soul.
And I leave it at that.
So you are saying there is evidence, but you can't show it. And you will
"leave it at that" so in other words, you have no evidence that a soul
exists and you are dancing around the question. You cannot even define
what a soul actually is, much less prove your claim that it exists.
This is typical of Osprey's replies, regarding the religious claims he
makes. When I've asked him to substantiate similar claims in the past,
he either has no answer, or accused me of being
Because it isn't worth the stupidity and the waste of typing.
If I try to explain why I think a soul exist, nothing but flamatory remarks
comes back. If you don't like it, so be it.
Wait a minute Robert. You told SMH that there is "strong evidence"
that a soul exists. All that was asked, is that you state it.
Now you say you won't explain why YOU think a soul exists.
Would you agree that there is a big difference between
"strong evidence" and your opinion?
anti-religion/Christian, narrow minded, etc. Expect no more from him
on this particular issue. I've always been a questioner, and have
tried to separate truth from fiction. He'll never let truth get in the
way of his delusions, and on occasion demand that you disprove
what he says.
You just proven my point.
How? By stating the truth?
Slate
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
20 Feb 2004 08:42:34 AM |
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"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:tj5c30hl4krqiqgfn4vq7jsmnrnup7ta6q@4ax.com...
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:07:48 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:vcg9309glalottp2igdlfhp81f0dnnk958@4ax.com...
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 06:50:12 -0500, "Shawn \"Me\" Hearn"
<srhi@comcast.net> wrote:
In article <W_adnUHv9o6gv6_dRVn-jA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:2f2330588otfr0ktsg3gf6d5mlb3eqtakm@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:51:56 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<nr-dncff_-oV7qzdRVn-uw@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:aq82301tvn25uemrq0lspea7o1eoc0rq0f@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:42:20 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<1_SdnaZsi8Z0gazd4p2dnA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:06r130d2i4ies9m2s1a9vv3j861jeibrb5@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:29:57 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<u4WdnagVr7U2Tq3dRVn-sA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:o0e030dbauaji2tldqkql68fs9h0nccdgi@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:28:54 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
Sure you do, you just want to play your game and deny
it.
If you didn't fear God,
Atheists don't believe in your imaginary sky-pixie,
Einstein.
So you know 100% that we have no soul that lives on after
death?
Absolutley positive? Can you prove it?
Can you prove a soul exists?
Nope, can you prove a soul doesn't exist?
(watch the avoidance of that question)
But I did not it doesn't. On the other hand, you were talking
about a
'soul that lives on after death' which is a clear statement
that
one
does exist. Otherwise how could it live on after death?
Therefore it is your burden of proof, which you will:
1. Deny
2. Avoid
or
3. Ignore
Ahh, the old "burden of proof" line.
In other words
You can't prove a soul does or doesn't exist.
I have not said either way.
O.k.
You want to believe it
doesn't. But if you are asked to prove it doesn't, you
need to slip out of it quickly and place the burden of proof on
someone
else.
Amazing.
Not really. If I said a soul does not exist I would be expected
to
prove it.
Well I can't, but I think there is evidence that suggest that we all
do
have
a soul.
And I leave it at that.
So you are saying there is evidence, but you can't show it. And you
will
"leave it at that" so in other words, you have no evidence that a soul
exists and you are dancing around the question. You cannot even define
what a soul actually is, much less prove your claim that it exists.
This is typical of Osprey's replies, regarding the religious claims he
makes. When I've asked him to substantiate similar claims in the past,
he either has no answer, or accused me of being
Because it isn't worth the stupidity and the waste of typing.
If I try to explain why I think a soul exist, nothing but flamatory
remarks
comes back. If you don't like it, so be it.
Wait a minute Robert. You told SMH that there is "strong evidence"
Yes I believe there is.
But do I wish to discuss it with people whos sole objective is to criticize,
ridicule, make fun of?
Answer: No
That is my choice. If you don't like it, I never asked you to respond to
me.
that a soul exists. All that was asked, is that you state it.
Now you say you won't explain why YOU think a soul exists.
Not with you I will not, and many other atheist.
There are some intelligent atheist with open minds, that are objective and
yes I would with them.
Would you agree that there is a big difference between
"strong evidence" and your opinion?
anti-religion/Christian, narrow minded, etc. Expect no more from him
on this particular issue. I've always been a questioner, and have
tried to separate truth from fiction. He'll never let truth get in the
way of his delusions, and on occasion demand that you disprove
what he says.
You just proven my point.
How? By stating the truth?
Do you know what the truth is?
Slate
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
20 Feb 2004 09:54:02 AM |
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In article <U4ednZsGlr6BgavdRVn-jw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:tj5c30hl4krqiqgfn4vq7jsmnrnup7ta6q@4ax.com...
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:07:48 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:vcg9309glalottp2igdlfhp81f0dnnk958@4ax.com...
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 06:50:12 -0500, "Shawn \"Me\" Hearn"
<srhi@comcast.net> wrote:
In article <W_adnUHv9o6gv6_dRVn-jA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:2f2330588otfr0ktsg3gf6d5mlb3eqtakm@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:51:56 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<nr-dncff_-oV7qzdRVn-uw@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:aq82301tvn25uemrq0lspea7o1eoc0rq0f@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:42:20 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<1_SdnaZsi8Z0gazd4p2dnA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:06r130d2i4ies9m2s1a9vv3j861jeibrb5@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:29:57 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<u4WdnagVr7U2Tq3dRVn-sA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:o0e030dbauaji2tldqkql68fs9h0nccdgi@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:28:54 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
Sure you do, you just want to play your game and deny
it.
If you didn't fear God,
Atheists don't believe in your imaginary sky-pixie,
Einstein.
So you know 100% that we have no soul that lives on after
death?
Absolutley positive? Can you prove it?
Can you prove a soul exists?
Nope, can you prove a soul doesn't exist?
(watch the avoidance of that question)
But I did not it doesn't. On the other hand, you were talking
about a
'soul that lives on after death' which is a clear statement
that
one
does exist. Otherwise how could it live on after death?
Therefore it is your burden of proof, which you will:
1. Deny
2. Avoid
or
3. Ignore
Ahh, the old "burden of proof" line.
In other words
You can't prove a soul does or doesn't exist.
I have not said either way.
O.k.
You want to believe it
doesn't. But if you are asked to prove it doesn't, you
need to slip out of it quickly and place the burden of proof on
someone
else.
Amazing.
Not really. If I said a soul does not exist I would be expected
to
prove it.
Well I can't, but I think there is evidence that suggest that we all
do
have
a soul.
And I leave it at that.
So you are saying there is evidence, but you can't show it. And you
will
"leave it at that" so in other words, you have no evidence that a soul
exists and you are dancing around the question. You cannot even define
what a soul actually is, much less prove your claim that it exists.
This is typical of Osprey's replies, regarding the religious claims he
makes. When I've asked him to substantiate similar claims in the past,
he either has no answer, or accused me of being
Because it isn't worth the stupidity and the waste of typing.
If I try to explain why I think a soul exist, nothing but flamatory
remarks
comes back. If you don't like it, so be it.
Wait a minute Robert. You told SMH that there is "strong evidence"
Yes I believe there is.
But do I wish to discuss it with people whos sole objective is to criticize,
ridicule, make fun of?
Answer: No
That is my choice. If you don't like it, I never asked you to respond to
me.
Cowardly Osprey runs away yet again.
that a soul exists. All that was asked, is that you state it.
Now you say you won't explain why YOU think a soul exists.
Not with you I will not, and many other atheist.
There are some intelligent atheist with open minds, that are objective and
yes I would with them.
Would you agree that there is a big difference between
"strong evidence" and your opinion?
anti-religion/Christian, narrow minded, etc. Expect no more from him
on this particular issue. I've always been a questioner, and have
tried to separate truth from fiction. He'll never let truth get in the
way of his delusions, and on occasion demand that you disprove
what he says.
You just proven my point.
How? By stating the truth?
Do you know what the truth is?
Ospreyıs philosophy in life. Lies are truth.
Slate
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
20 Feb 2004 10:59:12 AM |
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:42:34 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <U4ednZsGlr6BgavdRVn-jw@comcast.com>
wrote:
Wait a minute Robert. You told SMH that there is "strong evidence"
Yes I believe there is.
But do I wish to discuss it with people whos sole objective is to criticize,
ridicule, make fun of?
He really means 'question'.
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| User: "Slate" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
20 Feb 2004 10:48:30 AM |
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:42:34 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:tj5c30hl4krqiqgfn4vq7jsmnrnup7ta6q@4ax.com...
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:07:48 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Slate" <let_me_know@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:vcg9309glalottp2igdlfhp81f0dnnk958@4ax.com...
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 06:50:12 -0500, "Shawn \"Me\" Hearn"
<srhi@comcast.net> wrote:
In article <W_adnUHv9o6gv6_dRVn-jA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:2f2330588otfr0ktsg3gf6d5mlb3eqtakm@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:51:56 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<nr-dncff_-oV7qzdRVn-uw@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:aq82301tvn25uemrq0lspea7o1eoc0rq0f@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:42:20 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<1_SdnaZsi8Z0gazd4p2dnA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:06r130d2i4ies9m2s1a9vv3j861jeibrb5@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:29:57 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<u4WdnagVr7U2Tq3dRVn-sA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:o0e030dbauaji2tldqkql68fs9h0nccdgi@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:28:54 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
Sure you do, you just want to play your game and deny
it.
If you didn't fear God,
Atheists don't believe in your imaginary sky-pixie,
Einstein.
So you know 100% that we have no soul that lives on after
death?
Absolutley positive? Can you prove it?
Can you prove a soul exists?
Nope, can you prove a soul doesn't exist?
(watch the avoidance of that question)
But I did not it doesn't. On the other hand, you were talking
about a
'soul that lives on after death' which is a clear statement
that
one
does exist. Otherwise how could it live on after death?
Therefore it is your burden of proof, which you will:
1. Deny
2. Avoid
or
3. Ignore
Ahh, the old "burden of proof" line.
In other words
You can't prove a soul does or doesn't exist.
I have not said either way.
O.k.
You want to believe it
doesn't. But if you are asked to prove it doesn't, you
need to slip out of it quickly and place the burden of proof on
someone
else.
Amazing.
Not really. If I said a soul does not exist I would be expected
to
prove it.
Well I can't, but I think there is evidence that suggest that we all
do
have
a soul.
And I leave it at that.
So you are saying there is evidence, but you can't show it. And you
will
"leave it at that" so in other words, you have no evidence that a soul
exists and you are dancing around the question. You cannot even define
what a soul actually is, much less prove your claim that it exists.
This is typical of Osprey's replies, regarding the religious claims he
makes. When I've asked him to substantiate similar claims in the past,
he either has no answer, or accused me of being
Because it isn't worth the stupidity and the waste of typing.
If I try to explain why I think a soul exist, nothing but flamatory
remarks
comes back. If you don't like it, so be it.
Wait a minute Robert. You told SMH that there is "strong evidence"
Yes I believe there is.
But do I wish to discuss it with people whos sole objective is to criticize,
ridicule, make fun of?
Answer: No
That is my choice. If you don't like it, I never asked you to respond to
me.
I never asked you to respond to me either, yet here we are.
The sole objective is to separate fact from fiction, not to
"criticize", "ridicule", or "make fun of".
that a soul exists. All that was asked, is that you state it.
Now you say you won't explain why YOU think a soul exists.
Not with you I will not, and many other atheist.
There are some intelligent atheist with open minds, that are objective and
yes I would with them.
It requires an open mind to be an atheist in the first place.
Would you agree that there is a big difference between
"strong evidence" and your opinion?
anti-religion/Christian, narrow minded, etc. Expect no more from him
on this particular issue. I've always been a questioner, and have
tried to separate truth from fiction. He'll never let truth get in the
way of his delusions, and on occasion demand that you disprove
what he says.
You just proven my point.
How? By stating the truth?
Do you know what the truth is?
Sure:
You claim there is "strong evidence" of a soul.
TRUTH: There is none, or it would have been stated long ago.
You then claim that you "think" there is evidence of a soul.
TRUTH: you only have the Bible to use as you evidence, and
that is equivalent to using Star Trek to prove the existence of
Klingons.
Truth is conformity to fact or actuality. When you make statements
like "strong evidence of a soul" you are not stating truth, you are
stating belief.
Slate
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
20 Feb 2004 10:57:23 AM |
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:18:01 -0500, Slate <let_me_know@hotmail.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<tj5c30hl4krqiqgfn4vq7jsmnrnup7ta6q@4ax.com> wrote:
Because it isn't worth the stupidity and the waste of typing.
If I try to explain why I think a soul exist, nothing but flamatory remarks
comes back. If you don't like it, so be it.
Wait a minute Robert. You told SMH that there is "strong evidence"
that a soul exists. All that was asked, is that you state it.
Now you say you won't explain why YOU think a soul exists.
Would you agree that there is a big difference between
"strong evidence" and your opinion?
It's really very simple. If no soul exists that invalidates one of
the basic points in his religion, and that cannot be allowed to
happen. Therefore the existence of his religion and it's requirements
and suppositions are proof of the existence of a soul, and all the
evidence that is needed.
See? I too can think like a theocrat.
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
17 Feb 2004 09:31:46 AM |
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On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:16:29 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <W_adnUHv9o6gv6_dRVn-jA@comcast.com>
wrote:
Not really. If I said a soul does not exist I would be expected to
prove it.
Well I can't, but I think there is evidence that suggest that we all do have
a soul.
And I leave it at that.
It is amazing how many people say the same thing.
"I know I am right but I can't prove it even thought I have evidence I
will not present, so basically I wish you would go away and stop
asking these awkward questions."
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
17 Feb 2004 11:53:42 AM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:16:29 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <W_adnUHv9o6gv6_dRVn-jA@comcast.com>
wrote:
Not really. If I said a soul does not exist I would be expected to
prove it.
Well I can't, but I think there is evidence that suggest that we all do
have
a soul.
And I leave it at that.
It is amazing how many people say the same thing.
"I know I am right but I can't prove it even thought I have evidence I
will not present, so basically I wish you would go away and stop
asking these awkward questions."
Well, you can play with it all you want.
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
17 Feb 2004 10:19:19 AM |
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In article <1qc4309sah2g9lvhpljmili3ho6ooqjj65@4ax.com>, Attila
<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:16:29 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <W_adnUHv9o6gv6_dRVn-jA@comcast.com>
wrote:
Not really. If I said a soul does not exist I would be expected to
prove it.
Well I can't, but I think there is evidence that suggest that we all do have
a soul.
And I leave it at that.
It is amazing how many people say the same thing.
"I know I am right but I can't prove it even thought I have evidence I
will not present, so basically I wish you would go away and stop
asking these awkward questions."
It's called religion. It is for the weak minded, and they don't come
any weaker than Ospry.
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| User: "Warnock" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
18 Feb 2004 08:56:01 AM |
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"David Barnes" <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:170220040819197999%dbarnes111@yahoo.com...
"I know I am right but I can't prove it even thought I have evidence I
will not present, so basically I wish you would go away and stop
asking these awkward questions."
It's called religion. It is for the weak minded, and they don't come
any weaker than Ospry.
****** Atheism is the art of avoiding the truth!
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**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
** People who deny that there is a God, are not so convinced that no God
exists, but are using this denial as a crutch to get out of having to comply
with God's Law!**
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
18 Feb 2004 09:39:23 PM |
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Warnock <warnnock@pop.co.za> wrote:
"David Barnes" <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
"I know I am right but I can't prove it even thought I have evidence I
will not present, so basically I wish you would go away and stop
asking these awkward questions."
It's called religion. It is for the weak minded, and they don't come
any weaker than Ospry.
****** Atheism is the art of avoiding the truth!
Yeah, it makes so much more sense to believe in magic and fairy tales.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Charles & Mambo" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 03:40:41 PM |
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Osprey wrote:
Can you prove a soul exists?
Nope, can you prove a soul doesn't exist?
(watch the avoidance of that question)
Can you prove that you're not a child rapist who owes me a million dollars?
(watch the avoidance of that question)
--
Come down off the cross
We can use the wood
Tom Waits, Come On Up To The House
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 07:57:00 PM |
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"Charles & Mambo" <Duckman@gfy.self> wrote in message
news:403138D8.9020301@gfy.self...
Osprey wrote:
Can you prove a soul exists?
Nope, can you prove a soul doesn't exist?
(watch the avoidance of that question)
Can you prove that you're not a child rapist who owes me a million
dollars?
(watch the avoidance of that question)
Natrually, because to reward stupidity with stupidity..keeps stupidity alive
--
Come down off the cross
We can use the wood
Tom Waits, Come On Up To The House
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| User: "Charles & Mambo" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 10:16:40 PM |
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Osprey wrote:
"Charles & Mambo" <Duckman@gfy.self> wrote in message
news:403138D8.9020301@gfy.self...
Osprey wrote:
Can you prove a soul exists?
Nope, can you prove a soul doesn't exist?
(watch the avoidance of that question)
Can you prove that you're not a child rapist who owes me a million
dollars?
(watch the avoidance of that question)
Natrually, because to reward stupidity with stupidity..keeps stupidity alive
Way to dodge a straight question. Just like you have "evidence" of a soul
(NDE, ghosts...), I, too have evidence of your debt, you rapist. I believe
it should be further investigated.
--
Come down off the cross
We can use the wood
Tom Waits, Come On Up To The House
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
17 Feb 2004 08:19:21 AM |
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"Charles & Mambo" <Duckman@gfy.self> wrote in message
news:403195A6.8020505@gfy.self...
Osprey wrote:
"Charles & Mambo" <Duckman@gfy.self> wrote in message
news:403138D8.9020301@gfy.self...
Osprey wrote:
Can you prove a soul exists?
Nope, can you prove a soul doesn't exist?
(watch the avoidance of that question)
Can you prove that you're not a child rapist who owes me a million
dollars?
(watch the avoidance of that question)
Natrually, because to reward stupidity with stupidity..keeps stupidity
alive
Way to dodge a straight question. Just like you have "evidence" of a soul
(NDE, ghosts...), I, too have evidence of your debt, you rapist. I believe
it should be further investigated.
Good for you, have fun.
--
Come down off the cross
We can use the wood
Tom Waits, Come On Up To The House
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| User: "Charles & Mambo" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
17 Feb 2004 01:54:22 PM |
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Osprey wrote:
Can you prove a soul exists?
Nope, can you prove a soul doesn't exist?
(watch the avoidance of that question)
Can you prove that you're not a child rapist who owes me a million
dollars?
(watch the avoidance of that question)
Natrually, because to reward stupidity with stupidity..keeps stupidity
alive
Way to dodge a straight question. Just like you have "evidence" of a soul
(NDE, ghosts...), I, too have evidence of your debt, you rapist. I believe
it should be further investigated.
Good for you, have fun.
Will do. Good luck with your ghost "investigation".
--
Come down off the cross
We can use the wood
Tom Waits, Come On Up To The House
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| User: "Warnock" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
18 Feb 2004 09:01:34 AM |
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"Charles & Mambo" <Duckman@gfy.self> wrote in message
news:403138D8.9020301@gfy.self...
Can you prove a soul exists?
Nope, can you prove a soul doesn't exist?
(watch the avoidance of that question)
Can you prove that you're not a child rapist who owes me a million
dollars?
****** If, by any chance, I was a child rapist - what makes you think I owe
you a million dollars?
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**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
** People who deny that there is a God, are not so convinced that no God
exists, but are using this denial as a crutch to get out of having to comply
with God's Law!**
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| User: "Warnock" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
18 Feb 2004 08:49:53 AM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:06r130d2i4ies9m2s1a9vv3j861jeibrb5@4ax.com...
Sure you do, you just want to play your game and deny it.
If you didn't fear God,
Atheists don't believe in your imaginary sky-pixie, Einstein.
So you know 100% that we have no soul that lives on after death?
Absolutley positive? Can you prove it?
Can you prove a soul exists?
****** Answer yhe question Attila, don't swing the responsibility - you made
a statement, back it up!
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
** People who deny that there is a God, are not so convinced that no God
exists, but are using this denial as a crutch to get out of having to comply
with God's Law!**
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| User: "robpar" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 10:33:42 AM |
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:29:57 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:28:54 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
Sure you do, you just want to play your game and deny it.
If you didn't fear God,
Atheists don't believe in your imaginary sky-pixie, Einstein.
So you know 100% that we have no soul that lives on after death?
Absolutley positive? Can you prove it?
The need for proof, is to prove that a soul can exist without a
body, or functioning brain. Lacking proof, is reason to reject a
belief.
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