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Science > Abortion |
| User: |
"Craig Chilton" |
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24 Jan 2004 02:55:55 PM |
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Re: Democrats for BUSH |
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:24:22 -0500,
Tate Gerard <tate23@bellsouth.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
"Work Work Work" <WWW@aol.com> wrote:
It just shows everyone that most normal Americans
support BUSH and his policies.
My, you *are* a DELUDED one, aren't you?
They want a country with Family VALUES and a stop to
the deviants who want to turn America into a land of freaks.
Yep. And HATRED is **not** a family value.
So here's a solution to the problem you just described.
All you deviant and control-freakish RRR cult freaks need to
do is move up to Canada. Canadians are a good-hearted people,
with a great sense of humor. So you can give them something
NEW to laugh at!
Meanwhile, you'll be hearing us laugh at you all the way from down
here in the USA once we OUST Bush this fall, take our country back,
and once again have RESPECT for personal and private individual
liberties and rights.
"Hasta la vista, Warmonger-in-Thief!"
Isn't [same-sex] marriage supposed to be legal in Canada?
It is. In many way, Canada is FAR advanced over the USA. That's
one of the ways.
If that is true why would anyone want to move there unless
they were homo?
Probably because living in a FAIR-minded, sensible, and egalitarian
country is ALWAYS preferable to living in one containing mindless and
hateful bigots, all else being equal.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
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| User: "Osprey" |
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16 Feb 2004 01:43:58 PM |
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"robpar" <robpar@deleteairmail.net> wrote in message
news:4030f041.6662511@news.airmail.net...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:29:57 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:o0e030dbauaji2tldqkql68fs9h0nccdgi@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:28:54 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
Sure you do, you just want to play your game and deny it.
If you didn't fear God,
Atheists don't believe in your imaginary sky-pixie, Einstein.
So you know 100% that we have no soul that lives on after death?
Absolutley positive? Can you prove it?
The need for proof, is to prove that a soul can exist without a
body, or functioning brain. Lacking proof, is reason to reject a
belief.
What would the soul require to exist without a body or functioning brain.
You seem to think the soul is a physical being.
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| User: "Shawn \Me\ Hearn" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 02:27:29 PM |
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In article <f6CdnZm0Oa7WgKzdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"robpar" <robpar@deleteairmail.net> wrote in message
news:4030f041.6662511@news.airmail.net...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:29:57 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:o0e030dbauaji2tldqkql68fs9h0nccdgi@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:28:54 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
Sure you do, you just want to play your game and deny it.
If you didn't fear God,
Atheists don't believe in your imaginary sky-pixie, Einstein.
So you know 100% that we have no soul that lives on after death?
Absolutley positive? Can you prove it?
The need for proof, is to prove that a soul can exist without a
body, or functioning brain. Lacking proof, is reason to reject a
belief.
What would the soul require to exist without a body or functioning brain.
You seem to think the soul is a physical being.
Why don't you explain what a soul is, since you claim a soul exists?
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 07:56:29 PM |
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"Shawn "Me" Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-B24AC7.15272916022004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <f6CdnZm0Oa7WgKzdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"robpar" <robpar@deleteairmail.net> wrote in message
news:4030f041.6662511@news.airmail.net...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:29:57 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:o0e030dbauaji2tldqkql68fs9h0nccdgi@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:28:54 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
Sure you do, you just want to play your game and deny it.
If you didn't fear God,
Atheists don't believe in your imaginary sky-pixie, Einstein.
So you know 100% that we have no soul that lives on after death?
Absolutley positive? Can you prove it?
The need for proof, is to prove that a soul can exist without a
body, or functioning brain. Lacking proof, is reason to reject a
belief.
What would the soul require to exist without a body or functioning
brain.
You seem to think the soul is a physical being.
Why don't you explain what a soul is, since you claim a soul exists?
Can you give me a good reason why I should even consider discussing it with
you?
I know better, your objective is to just bash and ridicule rather than to
actually be open
minded enough.
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| User: "Shawn \Me\ Hearn" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
19 Feb 2004 05:46:06 AM |
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In article <3qidnYq8E7gK6azdRVn-uA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Shawn "Me" Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-B24AC7.15272916022004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <f6CdnZm0Oa7WgKzdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"robpar" <robpar@deleteairmail.net> wrote in message
news:4030f041.6662511@news.airmail.net...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:29:57 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:o0e030dbauaji2tldqkql68fs9h0nccdgi@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:28:54 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
Sure you do, you just want to play your game and deny it.
If you didn't fear God,
Atheists don't believe in your imaginary sky-pixie, Einstein.
So you know 100% that we have no soul that lives on after death?
Absolutley positive? Can you prove it?
The need for proof, is to prove that a soul can exist without a
body, or functioning brain. Lacking proof, is reason to reject a
belief.
What would the soul require to exist without a body or functioning
brain.
You seem to think the soul is a physical being.
Why don't you explain what a soul is, since you claim a soul exists?
Can you give me a good reason why I should even consider discussing it with
you?
I know better, your objective is to just bash and ridicule rather than to
actually be open
minded enough.
I challenge you to show me one posting where I bashed and ridiculed the
concept of a soul. You claim a soul exists; I claim not to know. Where's
your proof and an explanation of what a soul is? I am really curious.
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| User: "Warnock" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
18 Feb 2004 09:05:53 AM |
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"robpar" <robpar@deleteairmail.net> wrote in message
news:4030f041.6662511@news.airmail.net...
Sure you do, you just want to play your game and deny it.
If you didn't fear God,
Atheists don't believe in your imaginary sky-pixie, Einstein.
So you know 100% that we have no soul that lives on after death?
Absolutley positive? Can you prove it?
The need for proof, is to prove that a soul can exist without a
body, or functioning brain. Lacking proof, is reason to reject a
belief.
****** A Soul is an independent entity, it can exist without a body - a body
can't exist without a Soul.
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
** People who deny that there is a God, are not so convinced that no God
exists, but are using this denial as a crutch to get out of having to comply
with God's Law!**
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
15 Feb 2004 08:16:25 PM |
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Osprey <> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
On 15 Feb 2004 15:26:43 -0800, (osprey) wrote:
Get real, and let me know when you get over your fear of God and those
who believe in God.
Why do you lie? Nobody fears the non-existent.
Sure you do,
You can't even tell the truth about people when they explain it to you
repeatedly and unabiguously. Your abilities as a mind reading are
even worse.
If you didn't fear God, you wouldn't make such outrageous statements about
religious people.
If you didn't hate God you wouldn't make such outrageous statements
about Muslim terrorists.
However you
in-your-face jerks are a very real threat.
Not at all,
3000 people were killed by religious fanatics like you.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
15 Feb 2004 07:04:37 PM |
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osprey wrote:
Enkidu <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message news:<mCMXb.17862$IF1.2937@fed1read01>...
osprey wrote:
[snip]
You want to take away a persons freedom of speech by restricting them
to where they can and can't pray.
How bigoted of you.
So you'd let each kid stand up in class whenever he wants, and pray as
loud as he wants, whenever he wants, as often as he wants, regardless of
the rights of the other students to learn a little American history or
algebra?
What a fool.
Your statement is about as idiotic as someone saying that all
homosexuals dance around in leather and whip each other on the streets
in public.
You are religiousophic!!!
Get real, and let me know when you get over your fear of God and those
who believe in God.
I've hosted a before-school Bible study in my classroom, you fucking
moron! They get the same right to come in out of the rain as the chess
club. But not during school hours.
-=-=-
.... Enkidu
AA# 2165
"If people are good only because they fear punishment,
and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed."
-- Albert Einstein
* TagZilla 0.049
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
15 Feb 2004 07:56:19 PM |
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"Enkidu" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:xGUXb.18931$IF1.9194@fed1read01...
osprey wrote:
Enkidu <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:<mCMXb.17862$IF1.2937@fed1read01>...
osprey wrote:
[snip]
You want to take away a persons freedom of speech by restricting them
to where they can and can't pray.
How bigoted of you.
So you'd let each kid stand up in class whenever he wants, and pray as
loud as he wants, whenever he wants, as often as he wants, regardless of
the rights of the other students to learn a little American history or
algebra?
What a fool.
Your statement is about as idiotic as someone saying that all
homosexuals dance around in leather and whip each other on the streets
in public.
You are religiousophic!!!
Get real, and let me know when you get over your fear of God and those
who believe in God.
I've hosted a before-school Bible study in my classroom, you fucking
moron!
Gee, sounds like you didn't practice what you preach
They get the same right to come in out of the rain as the chess
club. But not during school hours.
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before or after.
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| User: "Shawn \Me\ Hearn" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 02:20:26 PM |
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In article <_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Enkidu" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:xGUXb.18931$IF1.9194@fed1read01...
osprey wrote:
Enkidu <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:<mCMXb.17862$IF1.2937@fed1read01>...
osprey wrote:
[snip]
You want to take away a persons freedom of speech by restricting them
to where they can and can't pray.
How bigoted of you.
So you'd let each kid stand up in class whenever he wants, and pray as
loud as he wants, whenever he wants, as often as he wants, regardless of
the rights of the other students to learn a little American history or
algebra?
What a fool.
Your statement is about as idiotic as someone saying that all
homosexuals dance around in leather and whip each other on the streets
in public.
You are religiousophic!!!
Get real, and let me know when you get over your fear of God and those
who believe in God.
I've hosted a before-school Bible study in my classroom, you fucking
moron!
Gee, sounds like you didn't practice what you preach
They get the same right to come in out of the rain as the chess
club. But not during school hours.
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before or after.
Exactly, just not during class time and no child (or school official)
has the right to compell kids to pray in school if they do not want to.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 07:53:45 PM |
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"Shawn "Me" Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-84C1CA.15202616022004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Enkidu" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:xGUXb.18931$IF1.9194@fed1read01...
osprey wrote:
Enkidu <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:<mCMXb.17862$IF1.2937@fed1read01>...
osprey wrote:
[snip]
You want to take away a persons freedom of speech by restricting
them
to where they can and can't pray.
How bigoted of you.
So you'd let each kid stand up in class whenever he wants, and pray
as
loud as he wants, whenever he wants, as often as he wants,
regardless of
the rights of the other students to learn a little American history
or
algebra?
What a fool.
Your statement is about as idiotic as someone saying that all
homosexuals dance around in leather and whip each other on the
streets
in public.
You are religiousophic!!!
Get real, and let me know when you get over your fear of God and
those
who believe in God.
I've hosted a before-school Bible study in my classroom, you fucking
moron!
Gee, sounds like you didn't practice what you preach
They get the same right to come in out of the rain as the chess
club. But not during school hours.
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before or
after.
Exactly, just not during class time and no child (or school official)
has the right to compell kids to pray in school if they do not want to.
Oh? And just what would you do if a child sits at his or her desk and prays
before a test?
suspend them?
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| User: "Shawn \Me\ Hearn" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
19 Feb 2004 05:42:37 AM |
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In article <C7ydnVxmzd5p7qzdRVn-vw@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Shawn "Me" Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-84C1CA.15202616022004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Enkidu" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:xGUXb.18931$IF1.9194@fed1read01...
osprey wrote:
Enkidu <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:<mCMXb.17862$IF1.2937@fed1read01>...
osprey wrote:
[snip]
You want to take away a persons freedom of speech by restricting
them
to where they can and can't pray.
How bigoted of you.
So you'd let each kid stand up in class whenever he wants, and pray
as
loud as he wants, whenever he wants, as often as he wants,
regardless of
the rights of the other students to learn a little American history
or
algebra?
What a fool.
Your statement is about as idiotic as someone saying that all
homosexuals dance around in leather and whip each other on the
streets
in public.
You are religiousophic!!!
Get real, and let me know when you get over your fear of God and
those
who believe in God.
I've hosted a before-school Bible study in my classroom, you fucking
moron!
Gee, sounds like you didn't practice what you preach
They get the same right to come in out of the rain as the chess
club. But not during school hours.
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before or
after.
Exactly, just not during class time and no child (or school official)
has the right to compell kids to pray in school if they do not want to.
Oh? And just what would you do if a child sits at his or her desk and prays
before a test?
suspend them?
Nothing. As long as the prayer is not conducted or encouraged by a
school official during class time, I have objection to it. If you really
think no-one prays before a test, you are kidding yourself. And if you
really thinking praying before a test helps improve grades more than
studying does, you're also kidding yourself.
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 09:40:19 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:53:45 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <C7ydnVxmzd5p7qzdRVn-vw@comcast.com>
wrote:
Oh? And just what would you do if a child sits at his or her desk and prays
before a test?
suspend them?
If they did it out loud and disturbed the class why not? If they wish
to do that instead of answering the questions and they do it quietly
that is their problem. They don't get extra time.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
17 Feb 2004 08:18:55 AM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:353330pfbjqp49tertsvpvmj5uaaq55jqq@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:53:45 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <C7ydnVxmzd5p7qzdRVn-vw@comcast.com>
wrote:
Oh? And just what would you do if a child sits at his or her desk and
prays
before a test?
suspend them?
If they did it out loud and disturbed the class why not?
o.k, then if a homosexual acts rudely in front of people, then we should
suspend them.
Honestly, you let the little things bother you.
If they wish
to do that instead of answering the questions and they do it quietly
that is their problem. They don't get extra time.
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| User: "Attila" |
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17 Feb 2004 09:42:46 AM |
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On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:18:55 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <6tqdnQRpJYlTv6_dRVn-hA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:353330pfbjqp49tertsvpvmj5uaaq55jqq@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:53:45 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <C7ydnVxmzd5p7qzdRVn-vw@comcast.com>
wrote:
Oh? And just what would you do if a child sits at his or her desk and
prays
before a test?
suspend them?
If they did it out loud and disturbed the class why not?
o.k, then if a homosexual acts rudely in front of people, then we should
suspend them.
Any act that disrupts the class should be punished. If suspension is
appropriate, so be it.
Honestly, you let the little things bother you.
They seem to bother you a lot more.
If they wish
to do that instead of answering the questions and they do it quietly
that is their problem. They don't get extra time.
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 07:41:15 AM |
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:56:19 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>
wrote:
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before or after.
Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time is
set aside for it.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 08:30:23 AM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:l2i130lm24t37rdphn89qdc6sdt7tjq5bq@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:56:19 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>
wrote:
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before or
after.
Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time is
set aside for it.
wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.
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| User: "Shawn \Me\ Hearn" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 02:23:13 PM |
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In article <xcWdnWMLxtRYTq3dRVn-gQ@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:l2i130lm24t37rdphn89qdc6sdt7tjq5bq@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:56:19 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>
wrote:
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before or
after.
Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time is
set aside for it.
wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.
Where's your proof? How about naming some of these schools and the court
cases they won that allow them to continue this practice if they were
challenged legally?
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 07:54:18 PM |
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"Shawn "Me" Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-749935.15231316022004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <xcWdnWMLxtRYTq3dRVn-gQ@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:l2i130lm24t37rdphn89qdc6sdt7tjq5bq@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:56:19 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>
wrote:
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before or
after.
Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time is
set aside for it.
wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.
Where's your proof? How about naming some of these schools and the court
cases they won that allow them to continue this practice if they were
challenged legally?
It is called moment of silence.
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| User: "Shawn \Me\ Hearn" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
19 Feb 2004 05:43:51 AM |
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In article <pZadnZLvDP6I6azd4p2dnA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Shawn "Me" Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-749935.15231316022004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <xcWdnWMLxtRYTq3dRVn-gQ@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:l2i130lm24t37rdphn89qdc6sdt7tjq5bq@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:56:19 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>
wrote:
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before or
after.
Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time is
set aside for it.
wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.
Where's your proof? How about naming some of these schools and the court
cases they won that allow them to continue this practice if they were
challenged legally?
It is called moment of silence.
That's not the same thing. A moment of silence is a compromise between
those who oppose prayer in school and those who support it. I have a
question for you. Why can't kids pray before or after class, rather than
during class? Why does prayer have to be lead by school officials?
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
19 Feb 2004 06:37:26 AM |
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"Shawn "Me" Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-E8B771.06435119022004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <pZadnZLvDP6I6azd4p2dnA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Shawn "Me" Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-749935.15231316022004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <xcWdnWMLxtRYTq3dRVn-gQ@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:l2i130lm24t37rdphn89qdc6sdt7tjq5bq@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:56:19 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>
wrote:
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before
or
after.
Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time
is
set aside for it.
wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.
Where's your proof? How about naming some of these schools and the
court
cases they won that allow them to continue this practice if they were
challenged legally?
It is called moment of silence.
That's not the same thing. A moment of silence is a compromise between
those who oppose prayer in school and those who support it. I have a
question for you. Why can't kids pray before or after class, rather than
during class? Why does prayer have to be lead by school officials?
No one said prayer had to be lead by school officials.
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
19 Feb 2004 10:10:39 AM |
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In article <nM2dnei50NGtMKndRVn-gg@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Shawn "Me" Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-E8B771.06435119022004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <pZadnZLvDP6I6azd4p2dnA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Shawn "Me" Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-749935.15231316022004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <xcWdnWMLxtRYTq3dRVn-gQ@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:l2i130lm24t37rdphn89qdc6sdt7tjq5bq@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:56:19 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>
wrote:
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before
or
after.
Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time
is
set aside for it.
wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.
Where's your proof? How about naming some of these schools and the
court
cases they won that allow them to continue this practice if they were
challenged legally?
It is called moment of silence.
That's not the same thing. A moment of silence is a compromise between
those who oppose prayer in school and those who support it. I have a
question for you. Why can't kids pray before or after class, rather than
during class? Why does prayer have to be lead by school officials?
No one said prayer had to be lead by school officials.
This is more conservative propaganda. Children can pray, on there own,
in school. No one has ever claimed otherwise. The Republicans are
merely lying again to try and push their religion on the American
public. More Republican propaganda. Who cares?
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
19 Feb 2004 07:12:05 AM |
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 07:37:26 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <nM2dnei50NGtMKndRVn-gg@comcast.com>
wrote:
That's not the same thing. A moment of silence is a compromise between
those who oppose prayer in school and those who support it. I have a
question for you. Why can't kids pray before or after class, rather than
during class? Why does prayer have to be lead by school officials?
No one said prayer had to be lead by school officials.
No organized religious observance should be allowed. It doesn't
matter who is doing the organizing or the leading.
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| User: "Warnock" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
20 Feb 2004 02:42:40 AM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:9fd930ln3j721svt8b6dnho0ulp9d0t2cb@4ax.com...
That's not the same thing. A moment of silence is a compromise between
those who oppose prayer in school and those who support it. I have a
question for you. Why can't kids pray before or after class, rather
than
during class? Why does prayer have to be lead by school officials?
No one said prayer had to be lead by school officials.
No organized religious observance should be allowed. It doesn't
matter who is doing the organizing or the leading.
****** By banning religious observance, you are effectively promoting
atheism as the only observance!
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
** People who deny that there is a God, are not so convinced that no God
exists, but are using this denial as a crutch to get out of having to comply
with God's Law!**
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| User: "Bob SD" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
20 Feb 2004 03:53:10 PM |
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"Warnock" <warnnock@pop.co.za> wrote in
news:c15mgf$68c$3@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:9fd930ln3j721svt8b6dnho0ulp9d0t2cb@4ax.com...
That's not the same thing. A moment of silence is a compromise
between those who oppose prayer in school and those who support
it. I have a question for you. Why can't kids pray before or after
class, rather
than
during class? Why does prayer have to be lead by school officials?
No one said prayer had to be lead by school officials.
No organized religious observance should be allowed. It doesn't
matter who is doing the organizing or the leading.
****** By banning religious observance, you are effectively promoting
atheism as the only observance!
Nothing at all wrong with that situation.
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay,
can't breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and
breath life into it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
** People who deny that there is a God, are not so convinced that no
God exists, but are using this denial as a crutch to get out of having
to comply with God's Law!**
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 10:17:36 AM |
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:30:23 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <xcWdnWMLxtRYTq3dRVn-gQ@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:l2i130lm24t37rdphn89qdc6sdt7tjq5bq@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:56:19 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>
wrote:
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before or
after.
Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time is
set aside for it.
wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.
I believe that is a 'minute of silence' for any use. I disagree with
it, by the way.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 01:43:09 PM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:v6r130dk2tjq3r55nfrvjc4gt00eudpv0t@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:30:23 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <xcWdnWMLxtRYTq3dRVn-gQ@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:l2i130lm24t37rdphn89qdc6sdt7tjq5bq@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:56:19 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>
wrote:
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before or
after.
Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time is
set aside for it.
wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.
I believe that is a 'minute of silence' for any use. I disagree with
it, by the way.
Of course, but you want to call others bigots if they disagree with
homosexual marriage right?
Amazing, how some of you can accuse people of wanting to strip rights away,
while in the same breath
you wish to strip a basic right away from our children who do pray.
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 02:14:22 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:43:09 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <gdqdncjZjLiHgKzdRVn-tw@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:v6r130dk2tjq3r55nfrvjc4gt00eudpv0t@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:30:23 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <xcWdnWMLxtRYTq3dRVn-gQ@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:l2i130lm24t37rdphn89qdc6sdt7tjq5bq@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:56:19 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>
wrote:
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before or
after.
Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time is
set aside for it.
wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.
I believe that is a 'minute of silence' for any use. I disagree with
it, by the way.
Of course, but you want to call others bigots if they disagree with
homosexual marriage right?
No. I am not concerned with that issue.
Amazing, how some of you can accuse people of wanting to strip rights away,
while in the same breath
you wish to strip a basic right away from our children who do pray.
We have been through this before. I would eliminate all references of
religion from language, law, culture, and anywhere else it could be
found. I haven't changed my mind on this in over 50 years and I am
not going to now.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 07:53:02 PM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:q09230d4458gl4albd28sgg7i49g7fi3s9@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:43:09 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <gdqdncjZjLiHgKzdRVn-tw@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:v6r130dk2tjq3r55nfrvjc4gt00eudpv0t@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:30:23 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <xcWdnWMLxtRYTq3dRVn-gQ@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:l2i130lm24t37rdphn89qdc6sdt7tjq5bq@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:56:19 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>
wrote:
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before
or
after.
Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time is
set aside for it.
wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.
I believe that is a 'minute of silence' for any use. I disagree with
it, by the way.
Of course, but you want to call others bigots if they disagree with
homosexual marriage right?
No. I am not concerned with that issue.
Amazing, how some of you can accuse people of wanting to strip rights
away,
while in the same breath
you wish to strip a basic right away from our children who do pray.
We have been through this before. I would eliminate all references of
religion from language, law, culture, and anywhere else it could be
found. I haven't changed my mind on this in over 50 years and I am
not going to now.
Then don't call others a bigot, when you just demonstrate above you are a
bigot.
Especially when you wish to control society by removing religion.
By the way, that isn't going to happen.
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 09:37:53 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:53:02 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <DPydnQ8XoLpU7qzdRVn-iQ@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:q09230d4458gl4albd28sgg7i49g7fi3s9@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:43:09 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <gdqdncjZjLiHgKzdRVn-tw@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:v6r130dk2tjq3r55nfrvjc4gt00eudpv0t@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:30:23 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <xcWdnWMLxtRYTq3dRVn-gQ@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:l2i130lm24t37rdphn89qdc6sdt7tjq5bq@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:56:19 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>
wrote:
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before
or
after.
Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time is
set aside for it.
wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.
I believe that is a 'minute of silence' for any use. I disagree with
it, by the way.
Of course, but you want to call others bigots if they disagree with
homosexual marriage right?
No. I am not concerned with that issue.
Amazing, how some of you can accuse people of wanting to strip rights
away,
while in the same breath
you wish to strip a basic right away from our children who do pray.
We have been through this before. I would eliminate all references of
religion from language, law, culture, and anywhere else it could be
found. I haven't changed my mind on this in over 50 years and I am
not going to now.
Then don't call others a bigot, when you just demonstrate above you are a
bigot.
Provide a reference where I have ever done that. I will watch for
this with interest because that is a term I almost never use.
Especially when you wish to control society by removing religion.
I have no interest in controlling. I wish to eliminate one of the
oldest and worst such controls now in place.
By the way, that isn't going to happen.
As I have said in the past it will happen but not in my lifetime.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
17 Feb 2004 08:18:05 AM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:pv23301h5ao9m80aorre2f9aemk7r2evid@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:53:02 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <DPydnQ8XoLpU7qzdRVn-iQ@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:q09230d4458gl4albd28sgg7i49g7fi3s9@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:43:09 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <gdqdncjZjLiHgKzdRVn-tw@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:v6r130dk2tjq3r55nfrvjc4gt00eudpv0t@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:30:23 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <xcWdnWMLxtRYTq3dRVn-gQ@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:l2i130lm24t37rdphn89qdc6sdt7tjq5bq@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:56:19 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>
wrote:
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can
before
or
after.
Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time
is
set aside for it.
wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.
I believe that is a 'minute of silence' for any use. I disagree
with
it, by the way.
Of course, but you want to call others bigots if they disagree with
homosexual marriage right?
No. I am not concerned with that issue.
Amazing, how some of you can accuse people of wanting to strip rights
away,
while in the same breath
you wish to strip a basic right away from our children who do pray.
We have been through this before. I would eliminate all references of
religion from language, law, culture, and anywhere else it could be
found. I haven't changed my mind on this in over 50 years and I am
not going to now.
Then don't call others a bigot, when you just demonstrate above you are a
bigot.
Provide a reference where I have ever done that. I will watch for
this with interest because that is a term I almost never use.
If you didn't use the term, then I apologize. I thought you had.
Especially when you wish to control society by removing religion.
I have no interest in controlling. I wish to eliminate one of the
oldest and worst such controls now in place.
But you are concerned about what parents teach their children.
By the way, that isn't going to happen.
As I have said in the past it will happen but not in my lifetime.
Ahh, pro-choice...ok...now I know who you are.
Why did you change your nick?
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