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Science > Abortion |
| User: |
"Craig Chilton" |
| Date: |
24 Jan 2004 02:55:55 PM |
| Object: |
Re: Democrats for BUSH |
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:24:22 -0500,
Tate Gerard <tate23@bellsouth.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
"Work Work Work" <WWW@aol.com> wrote:
It just shows everyone that most normal Americans
support BUSH and his policies.
My, you *are* a DELUDED one, aren't you?
They want a country with Family VALUES and a stop to
the deviants who want to turn America into a land of freaks.
Yep. And HATRED is **not** a family value.
So here's a solution to the problem you just described.
All you deviant and control-freakish RRR cult freaks need to
do is move up to Canada. Canadians are a good-hearted people,
with a great sense of humor. So you can give them something
NEW to laugh at!
Meanwhile, you'll be hearing us laugh at you all the way from down
here in the USA once we OUST Bush this fall, take our country back,
and once again have RESPECT for personal and private individual
liberties and rights.
"Hasta la vista, Warmonger-in-Thief!"
Isn't [same-sex] marriage supposed to be legal in Canada?
It is. In many way, Canada is FAR advanced over the USA. That's
one of the ways.
If that is true why would anyone want to move there unless
they were homo?
Probably because living in a FAIR-minded, sensible, and egalitarian
country is ALWAYS preferable to living in one containing mindless and
hateful bigots, all else being equal.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
17 Feb 2004 09:41:10 AM |
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On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:18:05 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <QZedndSk-tYAv6_dRVn-vw@comcast.com>
wrote:
Then don't call others a bigot, when you just demonstrate above you are a
bigot.
Provide a reference where I have ever done that. I will watch for
this with interest because that is a term I almost never use.
If you didn't use the term, then I apologize. I thought you had.
No, because like all terms there are times when it is quite proper to
be one.
Especially when you wish to control society by removing religion.
I have no interest in controlling. I wish to eliminate one of the
oldest and worst such controls now in place.
But you are concerned about what parents teach their children.
I see a difference between education and indoctrination. Education is
teaching fact. Indoctrination is teaching opinion and judgment. Not
how to make a judgment but what that judgment should be.
By the way, that isn't going to happen.
As I have said in the past it will happen but not in my lifetime.
Ahh, pro-choice...ok...now I know who you are.
Why did you change your nick?
If you look at my name you will see the Prochoice is still there. It
was confusing having the only name I used the same as a major topic
here so I decided I needed to add an identifier. I chose Attila
because as a conservative I am far to the right of Attila the Hun, and
I like his nickname.
I must admit I miss being mistaken for a woman, however. It certainly
generated some amusing comments.
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| User: "Warnock" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
18 Feb 2004 09:34:18 AM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:q09230d4458gl4albd28sgg7i49g7fi3s9@4ax.com...
you wish to strip a basic right away from our children who do pray.
We have been through this before. I would eliminate all references of
religion from language, law, culture, and anywhere else it could be
found. I haven't changed my mind on this in over 50 years and I am
not going to now.
****** Well, if you have been an atheist most of your life, you are overdue
for a change! Become a theist, its an interesting life!
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
** People who deny that there is a God, are not so convinced that no God
exists, but are using this denial as a crutch to get out of having to comply
with God's Law!**
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
18 Feb 2004 04:50:50 PM |
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Warnock wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:q09230d4458gl4albd28sgg7i49g7fi3s9@4ax.com...
you wish to strip a basic right away from our children who do pray.
We have been through this before. I would eliminate all references of
religion from language, law, culture, and anywhere else it could be
found. I haven't changed my mind on this in over 50 years and I am
not going to now.
****** Well, if you have been an atheist most of your life, you are overdue
for a change! Become a theist, its an interesting life!
I'll make you a deal. It seems you're overdue for a change too. You
become an atheist, and I'll become a theist.
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
** People who deny that there is a God, are not so convinced that no God
exists, but are using this denial as a crutch to get out of having to comply
with God's Law!**
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| User: "Adam H." |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 02:09:08 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:43:09 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:v6r130dk2tjq3r55nfrvjc4gt00eudpv0t@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:30:23 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <xcWdnWMLxtRYTq3dRVn-gQ@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:l2i130lm24t37rdphn89qdc6sdt7tjq5bq@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:56:19 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>
wrote:
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before or
after.
Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time is
set aside for it.
wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.
I believe that is a 'minute of silence' for any use. I disagree with
it, by the way.
Of course, but you want to call others bigots if they disagree with
homosexual marriage right?
Amazing, how some of you can accuse people of wanting to strip rights away,
while in the same breath
you wish to strip a basic right away from our children who do pray.
There is no absolute right to pray in school. Your strawman has now
been beaten to death.
---
"A man's ethical behavior should be based
effectually on sympathy, education, and social
ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man
would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be
restrained by fear of punishment and hope of
reward after death."
Albert Einstein
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 07:49:38 PM |
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"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:0p8230l88g61v7e4pljb073jnhk5v6s37j@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:43:09 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:v6r130dk2tjq3r55nfrvjc4gt00eudpv0t@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:30:23 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <xcWdnWMLxtRYTq3dRVn-gQ@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:l2i130lm24t37rdphn89qdc6sdt7tjq5bq@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:56:19 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>
wrote:
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before
or
after.
Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time is
set aside for it.
wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.
I believe that is a 'minute of silence' for any use. I disagree with
it, by the way.
Of course, but you want to call others bigots if they disagree with
homosexual marriage right?
Amazing, how some of you can accuse people of wanting to strip rights
away,
while in the same breath
you wish to strip a basic right away from our children who do pray.
There is no absolute right to pray in school. Your strawman has now
been beaten to death.
There is a right to pray in school.
Freedom of speech.
You want to strip children away from this right.
A child praying at lunch before they eat, that is a right.
You are a bigot
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| User: "Adam H." |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 08:04:57 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:49:38 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:0p8230l88g61v7e4pljb073jnhk5v6s37j@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:43:09 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:v6r130dk2tjq3r55nfrvjc4gt00eudpv0t@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:30:23 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <xcWdnWMLxtRYTq3dRVn-gQ@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:l2i130lm24t37rdphn89qdc6sdt7tjq5bq@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:56:19 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>
wrote:
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before
or
after.
Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time is
set aside for it.
wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.
I believe that is a 'minute of silence' for any use. I disagree with
it, by the way.
Of course, but you want to call others bigots if they disagree with
homosexual marriage right?
Amazing, how some of you can accuse people of wanting to strip rights
away,
while in the same breath
you wish to strip a basic right away from our children who do pray.
There is no absolute right to pray in school. Your strawman has now
been beaten to death.
There is a right to pray in school.
Freedom of speech.
You want to strip children away from this right.
A child praying at lunch before they eat, that is a right.
You are a bigot
Bobby, there is no absolute right to pray at school, just as there is
no absolute right to say anything you like in class.
Your apology is due, but not expected, because jeebus knows you're too
dumb to even realize what I mean.
---
"A man's ethical behavior should be based
effectually on sympathy, education, and social
ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man
would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be
restrained by fear of punishment and hope of
reward after death."
Albert Einstein
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 09:04:31 PM |
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"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:4kt2309eo0e6dsunj4rsojbv0o1hqbd3ug@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:49:38 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:0p8230l88g61v7e4pljb073jnhk5v6s37j@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:43:09 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:v6r130dk2tjq3r55nfrvjc4gt00eudpv0t@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:30:23 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <xcWdnWMLxtRYTq3dRVn-gQ@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:l2i130lm24t37rdphn89qdc6sdt7tjq5bq@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:56:19 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>
wrote:
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can
before
or
after.
Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time
is
set aside for it.
wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.
I believe that is a 'minute of silence' for any use. I disagree
with
it, by the way.
Of course, but you want to call others bigots if they disagree with
homosexual marriage right?
Amazing, how some of you can accuse people of wanting to strip rights
away,
while in the same breath
you wish to strip a basic right away from our children who do pray.
There is no absolute right to pray in school. Your strawman has now
been beaten to death.
There is a right to pray in school.
Freedom of speech.
You want to strip children away from this right.
A child praying at lunch before they eat, that is a right.
You are a bigot
Bobby, there is no absolute right to pray at school, just as there is
no absolute right to say anything you like in class.
Your apology is due, but not expected, because jeebus knows you're too
dumb to even realize what I mean.
No apology from me to you.
You are a bigot
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| User: "Adam H." |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
16 Feb 2004 09:14:20 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:04:31 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:4kt2309eo0e6dsunj4rsojbv0o1hqbd3ug@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:49:38 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:0p8230l88g61v7e4pljb073jnhk5v6s37j@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:43:09 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:v6r130dk2tjq3r55nfrvjc4gt00eudpv0t@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:30:23 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <xcWdnWMLxtRYTq3dRVn-gQ@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:l2i130lm24t37rdphn89qdc6sdt7tjq5bq@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:56:19 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>
wrote:
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can
before
or
after.
Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time
is
set aside for it.
wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.
I believe that is a 'minute of silence' for any use. I disagree
with
it, by the way.
Of course, but you want to call others bigots if they disagree with
homosexual marriage right?
Amazing, how some of you can accuse people of wanting to strip rights
away,
while in the same breath
you wish to strip a basic right away from our children who do pray.
There is no absolute right to pray in school. Your strawman has now
been beaten to death.
There is a right to pray in school.
Freedom of speech.
You want to strip children away from this right.
A child praying at lunch before they eat, that is a right.
You are a bigot
Bobby, there is no absolute right to pray at school, just as there is
no absolute right to say anything you like in class.
Your apology is due, but not expected, because jeebus knows you're too
dumb to even realize what I mean.
No apology from me to you.
You are a bigot
And yet you can't show how....no doubt that'll bring another
accusation of how I want to stop all kids from praying in school at
any time, but of course that's you simply distorting what I wrote.
And, yes, you confirmed that you are too dumb to know what I meant.
I'll give you a hint:
"There is no ABSOLUTE right to pray in school." That word in caps is a
hint.
---
"A man's ethical behavior should be based
effectually on sympathy, education, and social
ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man
would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be
restrained by fear of punishment and hope of
reward after death."
Albert Einstein
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
17 Feb 2004 12:38:14 AM |
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Adam H. <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message news:<jl13305poa34o43sj6kocq0igmd76vfo91@4ax.com>...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:04:31 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:4kt2309eo0e6dsunj4rsojbv0o1hqbd3ug@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:49:38 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:0p8230l88g61v7e4pljb073jnhk5v6s37j@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:43:09 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:v6r130dk2tjq3r55nfrvjc4gt00eudpv0t@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:30:23 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <xcWdnWMLxtRYTq3dRVn-gQ@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:l2i130lm24t37rdphn89qdc6sdt7tjq5bq@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:56:19 -0500, "Osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>
wrote:
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can
before
or
after.
Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time
is
set aside for it.
wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.
I believe that is a 'minute of silence' for any use. I disagree
with
it, by the way.
Of course, but you want to call others bigots if they disagree with
homosexual marriage right?
Amazing, how some of you can accuse people of wanting to strip rights
away,
while in the same breath
you wish to strip a basic right away from our children who do pray.
There is no absolute right to pray in school. Your strawman has now
been beaten to death.
There is a right to pray in school.
Freedom of speech.
You want to strip children away from this right.
A child praying at lunch before they eat, that is a right.
You are a bigot
Bobby, there is no absolute right to pray at school, just as there is
no absolute right to say anything you like in class.
Your apology is due, but not expected, because jeebus knows you're too
dumb to even realize what I mean.
No apology from me to you.
You are a bigot
And yet you can't show how....no doubt that'll bring another
accusation of how I want to stop all kids from praying in school at
any time, but of course that's you simply distorting what I wrote.
And, yes, you confirmed that you are too dumb to know what I meant.
I'll give you a hint:
"There is no ABSOLUTE right to pray in school." That word in caps is a
hint.
you will not ever stop people from praying.
YOU ARE A BIGOT
Do you see the hint?
Read between the lines
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
17 Feb 2004 10:19:18 AM |
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In article <8912d58d.0402162238.46e99fce@posting.google.com>, osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Read between the lines
From the guy who can't read THE LINES...
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| User: "Adam H." |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
17 Feb 2004 01:26:55 AM |
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On 16 Feb 2004 22:38:14 -0800, (osprey) wrote:
Adam H. <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message news:<jl13305poa34o43sj6kocq0igmd76vfo91@4ax.com>...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:04:31 -0500, "Osprey" < >
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:4kt2309eo0e6dsunj4rsojbv0o1hqbd3ug@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:49:38 -0500, "Osprey" < >
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:0p8230l88g61v7e4pljb073jnhk5v6s37j@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:43:09 -0500, "Osprey" < >
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:v6r130dk2tjq3r55nfrvjc4gt00eudpv0t@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:30:23 -0500, "Osprey" < >
in alt.abortion with message-id <xcWdnWMLxtRYTq3dRVn-gQ@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:l2i130lm24t37rdphn89qdc6sdt7tjq5bq@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:56:19 -0500, "Osprey"
< >
in alt.abortion with message-id
<_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>
wrote:
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can
before
or
after.
Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time
is
set aside for it.
wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.
I believe that is a 'minute of silence' for any use. I disagree
with
it, by the way.
Of course, but you want to call others bigots if they disagree with
homosexual marriage right?
Amazing, how some of you can accuse people of wanting to strip rights
away,
while in the same breath
you wish to strip a basic right away from our children who do pray.
There is no absolute right to pray in school. Your strawman has now
been beaten to death.
There is a right to pray in school.
Freedom of speech.
You want to strip children away from this right.
A child praying at lunch before they eat, that is a right.
You are a bigot
Bobby, there is no absolute right to pray at school, just as there is
no absolute right to say anything you like in class.
Your apology is due, but not expected, because jeebus knows you're too
dumb to even realize what I mean.
No apology from me to you.
You are a bigot
And yet you can't show how....no doubt that'll bring another
accusation of how I want to stop all kids from praying in school at
any time, but of course that's you simply distorting what I wrote.
And, yes, that was pretty much exactly what happened.
And, yes, you confirmed that you are too dumb to know what I meant.
I'll give you a hint:
"There is no ABSOLUTE right to pray in school." That word in caps is a
hint.
you will not ever stop people from praying.
Your point? Never said I wanted to.
YOU ARE A BIGOT
No, I'm not, since I'm not trying to take away people's rights as you
are.
Do you see the hint?
Read between the lines
Hey, Bobby. Learn to read. I'd also like you to show me where I ever
said I wanted to stop people from praying. Get to it now.
---
"A man's ethical behavior should be based
effectually on sympathy, education, and social
ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man
would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be
restrained by fear of punishment and hope of
reward after death."
Albert Einstein
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
18 Feb 2004 11:10:12 PM |
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
There is no absolute right to pray in school. Your strawman has now
been beaten to death.
There is a right to pray in school.
Freedom of speech.
No, idiot, freedom of religion. And freedom of religion does not
include any right to have the government provide you the time, the
means, or the place to pray.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Warnock" |
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| Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY |
18 Feb 2004 09:26:42 AM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:v6r130dk2tjq3r55nfrvjc4gt00eudpv0t@4ax.com...
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before or
after.
Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time is
set aside for it.
wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.
I believe that is a 'minute of silence' for any use. I disagree with
it, by the way.
****** 'A minute of Silence' is normally associated with religion or
religious funerals.
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
** People who deny that there is a God, are not so convinced that no God
exists, but are using this denial as a crutch to get out of having to comply
with God's Law!**
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16 Feb 2004 09:00:12 AM |
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:30:23 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:l2i130lm24t37rdphn89qdc6sdt7tjq5bq@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:56:19 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>
wrote:
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before or
after.
Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time is
set aside for it.
wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.
Why should my children be forced to participate or to observe somebody
else's prayer session? If a child wants to pray, or is compelled to
pray by his or her parents, why isn't this prayer session at home,
where it belongs?
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| User: "Warnock" |
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18 Feb 2004 09:24:12 AM |
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"Krisblake" <krisblake@email.com> wrote in message
news:bnm1301op2sh96leel3o2rso05f5sfooh8@4ax.com...
Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time is
set aside for it.
wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.
Why should my children be forced to participate or to observe somebody
else's prayer session? If a child wants to pray, or is compelled to
pray by his or her parents, why isn't this prayer session at home,
where it belongs?.
****** All children should learn about theism, then when they are 21 yrs
old, they can make a fair and unbiased decision as to what they wish to do!
BTW: Kris, do you allow your children to celebrate Christmas?
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
** People who deny that there is a God, are not so convinced that no God
exists, but are using this denial as a crutch to get out of having to comply
with God's Law!**
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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18 Feb 2004 04:51:43 PM |
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Warnock wrote:
"Krisblake" <krisblake@email.com> wrote in message
news:bnm1301op2sh96leel3o2rso05f5sfooh8@4ax.com...
Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time is
set aside for it.
wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.
Why should my children be forced to participate or to observe somebody
else's prayer session? If a child wants to pray, or is compelled to
pray by his or her parents, why isn't this prayer session at home,
where it belongs?.
****** All children should learn about theism, then when they are 21 yrs
old, they can make a fair and unbiased decision as to what they wish to do!
Then why can't teaching them theism wait until they are 21 years old?
BTW: Kris, do you allow your children to celebrate Christmas?
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
** People who deny that there is a God, are not so convinced that no God
exists, but are using this denial as a crutch to get out of having to comply
with God's Law!**
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18 Feb 2004 10:18:18 PM |
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--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:c10qct$1chtpj$3@ID-163025.news.uni-berlin.de:
Warnock wrote:
"Krisblake" <krisblake@email.com> wrote in message
news:bnm1301op2sh96leel3o2rso05f5sfooh8@4ax.com...
Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time is
set aside for it.
wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.
Why should my children be forced to participate or to observe
somebody else's prayer session? If a child wants to pray, or is
compelled to pray by his or her parents, why isn't this prayer
session at home, where it belongs?.
****** All children should learn about theism, then when they are 21
yrs old, they can make a fair and unbiased decision as to what they
wish to do!
Then why can't teaching them theism wait until they are 21 years old?
Excellent point. :o)))
BTW: Kris, do you allow your children to celebrate Christmas?
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay,
can't breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and
breath life into it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
** People who deny that there is a God, are not so convinced that no
God exists, but are using this denial as a crutch to get out of
having to comply with God's Law!**
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20 Feb 2004 02:03:59 AM |
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"Bob" <SD> wrote in message news:Xns9493CE8D723FASD@153.80.109.11...
--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in
****** All children should learn about theism, then when they are 21
yrs old, they can make a fair and unbiased decision as to what they
wish to do!
Then why can't teaching them theism wait until they are 21 years old?
Excellent point. :o)))
****** Children need to be taught a balanced view of life, while they are
young!
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
** People who deny that there is a God, are not so convinced that no God
exists, but are using this denial as a crutch to get out of having to comply
with God's Law!**
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20 Feb 2004 03:51:54 PM |
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"Warnock" <warnnock@pop.co.za> wrote in
news:c15mge$68c$2@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net:
"Bob" <SD> wrote in message news:Xns9493CE8D723FASD@153.80.109.11...
--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in
****** All children should learn about theism, then when they are
21 yrs old, they can make a fair and unbiased decision as to what
they wish to do!
Then why can't teaching them theism wait until they are 21 years
old?
Excellent point. :o)))
****** Children need to be taught a balanced view of life, while they
are young!
With regards to religious myth, you mean brainwashed into your phony cult
before they are mature enough to make intelligent decisions on their own.
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay,
can't breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and
breath life into it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
** People who deny that there is a God, are not so convinced that no
God exists, but are using this denial as a crutch to get out of having
to comply with God's Law!**
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| User: "Warnock" |
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24 Feb 2004 02:43:07 PM |
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"Bob" <SD> wrote in message news:Xns94958D0C06A76SD@153.80.109.11...
"Warnock" <warnnock@pop.co.za> wrote in
****** All children should learn about theism, then when they are
21 yrs old, they can make a fair and unbiased decision as to what
they wish to do!
Then why can't teaching them theism wait until they are 21 years
old?
Excellent point. :o)))
****** Children need to be taught a balanced view of life, while they
are young!
With regards to religious myth, you mean brainwashed into your phony cult
before they are mature enough to make intelligent decisions on their own.
****** Just because you have decided to ignore the evidence for theism, does
not mean that there is no God!
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,
both of them have committed an abomination: they shall
surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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| User: "Bob SD" |
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24 Feb 2004 04:05:43 PM |
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"Warnock" <warnnock@pop.co.za> wrote in
news:c1gd0k$gr0$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net:
"Bob" <SD> wrote in message news:Xns94958D0C06A76SD@153.80.109.11...
"Warnock" <warnnock@pop.co.za> wrote in
****** All children should learn about theism, then when they
are 21 yrs old, they can make a fair and unbiased decision as
to what they wish to do!
Then why can't teaching them theism wait until they are 21 years
old?
Excellent point. :o)))
****** Children need to be taught a balanced view of life, while
they are young!
With regards to religious myth, you mean brainwashed into your phony
cult before they are mature enough to make intelligent decisions on
their own.
****** Just because you have decided to ignore the evidence for
theism, does not mean that there is no God!
Nothing to ignore. There is no "evidence". You xtian loons keep talking
about this "evidence" that supports the existance of your mythical "god"
but you never seem to be able to produce any of it. Why, do you suppose,
is that? Pretend this is like a poker game and show 'em if you got 'em.
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay,
can't breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and
breath life into it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a
woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall
surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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| User: "John H. - Eagle Stock Images" |
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24 Feb 2004 07:17:31 PM |
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And you, or no one else, can prove there isn't a god. Good luck trying.
------------------
Bush and Kerry campaign license plate frames.
With American flag and Bald Eagle.
http://www.cafeshops.com/eaglestock/250806
Or just visit for the photography! http://www.eaglestock.com
John H. - Photographer specializing in American Bald Eagles
"Bob" <SD> wrote in message news:Xns94998F62737FASD@153.80.109.11...
"Warnock" <warnnock@pop.co.za> wrote in
news:c1gd0k$gr0$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net:
"Bob" <SD> wrote in message news:Xns94958D0C06A76SD@153.80.109.11...
"Warnock" <warnnock@pop.co.za> wrote in
****** All children should learn about theism, then when they
are 21 yrs old, they can make a fair and unbiased decision as
to what they wish to do!
Then why can't teaching them theism wait until they are 21 years
old?
Excellent point. :o)))
****** Children need to be taught a balanced view of life, while
they are young!
With regards to religious myth, you mean brainwashed into your phony
cult before they are mature enough to make intelligent decisions on
their own.
****** Just because you have decided to ignore the evidence for
theism, does not mean that there is no God!
Nothing to ignore. There is no "evidence". You xtian loons keep talking
about this "evidence" that supports the existance of your mythical "god"
but you never seem to be able to produce any of it. Why, do you suppose,
is that? Pretend this is like a poker game and show 'em if you got 'em.
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay,
can't breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and
breath life into it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a
woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall
surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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| User: "Bob" |
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24 Feb 2004 08:08:15 PM |
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"John H. - Eagle Stock Images" <news@eaglestock.com> wrote in
news:103nttrdv5dd46@corp.supernews.com:
And you, or no one else, can prove there isn't a god. Good luck
trying. ------------------
We can't prove that there are no pink unicorns either. Do you think they
exist too?
If you claim that your supernatural "god" exists, prove it. Why the big
secret?
Bush and Kerry campaign license plate frames.
With American flag and Bald Eagle.
http://www.cafeshops.com/eaglestock/250806
Or just visit for the photography! http://www.eaglestock.com
John H. - Photographer specializing in American Bald Eagles
"Bob" <SD> wrote in message news:Xns94998F62737FASD@153.80.109.11...
"Warnock" <warnnock@pop.co.za> wrote in
news:c1gd0k$gr0$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net:
"Bob" <SD> wrote in message news:Xns94958D0C06A76SD@153.80.109.11...
"Warnock" <warnnock@pop.co.za> wrote in
****** All children should learn about theism, then when they
are 21 yrs old, they can make a fair and unbiased decision as
to what they wish to do!
Then why can't teaching them theism wait until they are 21
years old?
Excellent point. :o)))
****** Children need to be taught a balanced view of life, while
they are young!
With regards to religious myth, you mean brainwashed into your
phony cult before they are mature enough to make intelligent
decisions on their own.
****** Just because you have decided to ignore the evidence for
theism, does not mean that there is no God!
Nothing to ignore. There is no "evidence". You xtian loons keep
talking about this "evidence" that supports the existance of your
mythical "god" but you never seem to be able to produce any of it.
Why, do you suppose, is that? Pretend this is like a poker game and
show 'em if you got 'em.
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay,
can't breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and
breath life into it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a
woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall
surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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| User: "Attila" |
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24 Feb 2004 07:29:54 PM |
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:17:31 -0600, "John H. - Eagle Stock Images"
<news@eaglestock.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<103nttrdv5dd46@corp.supernews.com> wrote:
And you, or no one else, can prove there isn't a god. Good luck trying.
This is not an uncommon comment from those asked to support their
position and cannot do it.
It is not necessary to prove a negative.
proving non-existence: when an arguer cannot provide the evidence for
his claims, he may challenge his opponent to prove it doesn't exist
(e.g., prove God doesn't exist; prove UFO's haven't visited earth,
etc.). Although one may prove non-existence in special limitations,
such as showing that a box does not contain certain items, one cannot
prove universal or absolute non-existence, or non-existence out of
ignorance. One cannot prove something that does not exist. The proof
of existence must come from those who make the claims.
http://www.nobeliefs.com/fallacies.htm
What is Top-Posting and why is it considered bad?
http://www.dickalba.demon.co.uk/usenet/guide/faq_topp.html
"Bob" <SD> wrote in message news:Xns94998F62737FASD@153.80.109.11...
"Warnock" <warnnock@pop.co.za> wrote in
news:c1gd0k$gr0$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net:
"Bob" <SD> wrote in message news:Xns94958D0C06A76SD@153.80.109.11...
"Warnock" <warnnock@pop.co.za> wrote in
****** All children should learn about theism, then when they
are 21 yrs old, they can make a fair and unbiased decision as
to what they wish to do!
Then why can't teaching them theism wait until they are 21 years
old?
Excellent point. :o)))
****** Children need to be taught a balanced view of life, while
they are young!
With regards to religious myth, you mean brainwashed into your phony
cult before they are mature enough to make intelligent decisions on
their own.
****** Just because you have decided to ignore the evidence for
theism, does not mean that there is no God!
Nothing to ignore. There is no "evidence". You xtian loons keep talking
about this "evidence" that supports the existance of your mythical "god"
but you never seem to be able to produce any of it. Why, do you suppose,
is that? Pretend this is like a poker game and show 'em if you got 'em.
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay,
can't breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and
breath life into it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a
woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall
surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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24 Feb 2004 03:56:17 PM |
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"Warnock" <warnnock@pop.co.za> wrote in message
news:c1gd0k$gr0$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
"Bob" <SD> wrote in message news:Xns94958D0C06A76SD@153.80.109.11...
"Warnock" <warnnock@pop.co.za> wrote in
****** All children should learn about theism, then when they are
21 yrs old, they can make a fair and unbiased decision as to what
they wish to do!
Then why can't teaching them theism wait until they are 21 years
old?
Excellent point. :o)))
****** Children need to be taught a balanced view of life, while they
are young!
With regards to religious myth, you mean brainwashed into your phony
cult
before they are mature enough to make intelligent decisions on their
own.
****** Just because you have decided to ignore the evidence for theism,
does
not mean that there is no God!
Please show your proof of your god.
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life
into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
Proof? I don't think so buddy.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,
both of them have committed an abomination: they shall
surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
More fictional discrimination.
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24 Feb 2004 06:14:46 PM |
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Warnock wrote:
"Bob" <SD> wrote in message news:Xns94958D0C06A76SD@153.80.109.11...
"Warnock" <warnnock@pop.co.za> wrote in
****** All children should learn about theism, then when they are
21 yrs old, they can make a fair and unbiased decision as to what
they wish to do!
Then why can't teaching them theism wait until they are 21 years
old?
Excellent point. :o)))
****** Children need to be taught a balanced view of life, while they
are young!
With regards to religious myth, you mean brainwashed into your phony cult
before they are mature enough to make intelligent decisions on their own.
****** Just because you have decided to ignore the evidence for theism, does
not mean that there is no God!
YOU HAVEN'T PRODUCED ANY EVIDENCE!!! NOT ONE SINGLE SHRED!!!
***deep breath***
All you have done, so far, is offer opinions, then run away and hide for
a few days when asked to back them up. And just for the record, running
away and/or ignoring a question doesn't make us forget.
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,
both of them have committed an abomination: they shall
surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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| User: "ImpBush" |
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24 Feb 2004 06:27:03 PM |
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"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c1gpgr$1hu50e$10@ID-163025.news.uni-berlin.de...
Warnock wrote:
"Bob" <SD> wrote in message news:Xns94958D0C06A76SD@153.80.109.11...
"Warnock" <warnnock@pop.co.za> wrote in
****** All children should learn about theism, then when they are
21 yrs old, they can make a fair and unbiased decision as to what
they wish to do!
Then why can't teaching them theism wait until they are 21 years
old?
Excellent point. :o)))
****** Children need to be taught a balanced view of life, while they
are young!
With regards to religious myth, you mean brainwashed into your phony
cult
before they are mature enough to make intelligent decisions on their
own.
****** Just because you have decided to ignore the evidence for theism,
does
not mean that there is no God!
YOU HAVEN'T PRODUCED ANY EVIDENCE!!! NOT ONE SINGLE SHRED!!!
There is no evidence or proof, that's why these quacks can't produce any.
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| User: "Bob" |
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24 Feb 2004 08:09:38 PM |
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"ImpBush" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in
news:sZR_b.5608$m4.3084@okepread03:
"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c1gpgr$1hu50e$10@ID-163025.news.uni-berlin.de...
Warnock wrote:
"Bob" <SD> wrote in message news:Xns94958D0C06A76SD@153.80.109.11...
"Warnock" <warnnock@pop.co.za> wrote in
****** All children should learn about theism, then when they
are 21 yrs old, they can make a fair and unbiased decision as to
what they wish to do!
Then why can't teaching them theism wait until they are 21 years
old?
Excellent point. :o)))
****** Children need to be taught a balanced view of life, while
they are young!
With regards to religious myth, you mean brainwashed into your phony
cult before they are mature enough to make intelligent decisions on
their own.
****** Just because you have decided to ignore the evidence for
theism, does not mean that there is no God!
YOU HAVEN'T PRODUCED ANY EVIDENCE!!! NOT ONE SINGLE SHRED!!!
There is no evidence or proof, that's why these quacks can't produce
any.
That's a given. :o)
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16 Feb 2004 08:53:52 AM |
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:30:23 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:l2i130lm24t37rdphn89qdc6sdt7tjq5bq@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:56:19 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>
wrote:
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before or
after.
Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time is
set aside for it.
wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.
Why should my children be forced to participate or to observe somebody
else's prayer session? If a child wants to pray, or is compelled to
pray by his or her parents, why isn't this thing encouraged to remain
at home, where it belongs?
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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16 Feb 2004 08:44:26 AM |
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Osprey wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:l2i130lm24t37rdphn89qdc6sdt7tjq5bq@4ax.com...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:56:19 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>
wrote:
A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before or
after.
Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time is
set aside for it.
wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.
Not in the US. Public schools cannot set time aside for private prayer.
Not during hours where attendance is mandatory.
-=-=-
.... Enkidu
AA# 2165
"Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is
something you dreamt up after being drunk all night."
-- Isaac Asimov
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