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Topic: Science > Abortion
User: "Craig Chilton"
Date: 24 Jan 2004 02:55:55 PM
Object: Re: Democrats for BUSH
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:24:22 -0500,
Tate Gerard <tate23@bellsouth.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

"Work Work Work" <WWW@aol.com> wrote:

It just shows everyone that most normal Americans
support BUSH and his policies.

My, you *are* a DELUDED one, aren't you?

They want a country with Family VALUES and a stop to
the deviants who want to turn America into a land of freaks.

Yep. And HATRED is **not** a family value.

So here's a solution to the problem you just described.

All you deviant and control-freakish RRR cult freaks need to
do is move up to Canada. Canadians are a good-hearted people,
with a great sense of humor. So you can give them something
NEW to laugh at!

Meanwhile, you'll be hearing us laugh at you all the way from down
here in the USA once we OUST Bush this fall, take our country back,
and once again have RESPECT for personal and private individual
liberties and rights.

"Hasta la vista, Warmonger-in-Thief!"

Isn't [same-sex] marriage supposed to be legal in Canada?

It is. In many way, Canada is FAR advanced over the USA. That's
one of the ways.

If that is true why would anyone want to move there unless
they were homo?

Probably because living in a FAIR-minded, sensible, and egalitarian
country is ALWAYS preferable to living in one containing mindless and
hateful bigots, all else being equal.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
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User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 16 Feb 2004 01:41:57 PM
"Enkidu" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
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Osprey wrote:

"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:56:19 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>
wrote:



A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before or


after.

Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time is
set aside for it.



wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.


Not in the US.

Yes in the US

Public schools cannot set time aside for private prayer.
Not during hours where attendance is mandatory.

Yes, they do set aside a time.
It is called "moment of silence"
And children are free to pray at other times, such as before they eat their
meal.
Why would you want to take that away?




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User: "Brian Westley"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 16 Feb 2004 01:54:25 PM
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:

"Enkidu" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
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Osprey wrote:

"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:56:19 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>
wrote:



A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before or


after.

Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time is
set aside for it.



wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.


Not in the US.

Yes in the US

Public schools cannot set time aside for private prayer.
Not during hours where attendance is mandatory.

Yes, they do set aside a time.
It is called "moment of silence"

Schools can set aside free time for students, but setting
aside time for prayer is not legal. Se Wallace v. Jaffree, 1985.
Alabama law set aside time for "meditation or voluntary prayer"
but it was struck down as respecting an establishment of religion.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=472&invol=38
---
Merlyn LeRoy
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User: "Shawn \Me\ Hearn"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 16 Feb 2004 02:25:26 PM
In article <guGdnXyYrIVPgazdRVn-tA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Enkidu" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
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Osprey wrote:

"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:56:19 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>
wrote:



A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before or


after.

Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time is
set aside for it.



wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.


Not in the US.


Yes in the US

Public schools cannot set time aside for private prayer.
Not during hours where attendance is mandatory.


Yes, they do set aside a time.
It is called "moment of silence"
And children are free to pray at other times, such as before they eat their
meal.
Why would you want to take that away?

In case, the time should be spent learning, not in silent prayer. Why
can't children pray at home, or during recess or their lunch break?
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 16 Feb 2004 07:55:13 PM
"Shawn "Me" Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-65C5D1.15252616022004@news-60.giganews.com...

In article <guGdnXyYrIVPgazdRVn-tA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Enkidu" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
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Osprey wrote:

"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:56:19 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <_8SdnVyFHoOMvq3dRVn-jg@comcast.com>
wrote:



A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before

or


after.

Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time is
set aside for it.



wrong again, schools can set time aside for it, and many do.


Not in the US.


Yes in the US

Public schools cannot set time aside for private prayer.
Not during hours where attendance is mandatory.


Yes, they do set aside a time.
It is called "moment of silence"
And children are free to pray at other times, such as before they eat

their

meal.
Why would you want to take that away?


In case, the time should be spent learning, not in silent prayer. Why
can't children pray at home, or during recess or their lunch break?

You can't take away a childs right to silent prayer
You can't dictate when and where a child wishes to pray silently.
If it bothers you that much, you have more issues than you need to have.
.
User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 16 Feb 2004 09:34:23 PM
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:55:13 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <F_idnfHVc_vR6azdRVn-tA@comcast.com>
wrote:


In case, the time should be spent learning, not in silent prayer. Why
can't children pray at home, or during recess or their lunch break?


You can't take away a childs right to silent prayer
You can't dictate when and where a child wishes to pray silently.
If it bothers you that much, you have more issues than you need to have.

If you had not indoctrinated the child it would not even know what
praying was.
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 17 Feb 2004 08:17:00 AM
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:55:13 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <F_idnfHVc_vR6azdRVn-tA@comcast.com>
wrote:



In case, the time should be spent learning, not in silent prayer. Why
can't children pray at home, or during recess or their lunch break?


You can't take away a childs right to silent prayer
You can't dictate when and where a child wishes to pray silently.
If it bothers you that much, you have more issues than you need to have.


If you had not indoctrinated the child it would not even know what
praying was.

And if you mind your own business and take care of your own children and not
worry about what I teach mine...the world would be a much better place.
.
User: "Shawn \Me\ Hearn"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 19 Feb 2004 05:51:49 AM
In article <d5qdnTgWWfDGv6_dRVn-ug@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:55:13 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <F_idnfHVc_vR6azdRVn-tA@comcast.com>
wrote:



In case, the time should be spent learning, not in silent prayer. Why
can't children pray at home, or during recess or their lunch break?


You can't take away a childs right to silent prayer
You can't dictate when and where a child wishes to pray silently.
If it bothers you that much, you have more issues than you need to have.


If you had not indoctrinated the child it would not even know what
praying was.


And if you mind your own business and take care of your own children and not
worry about what I teach mine...the world would be a much better place.

I am all for that, which is why I want my children to be learning in
school, not praying at the request of a teacher or a school board. If I
wanted to bring religion into the lives of my children, I am perfectly
capable of doing so at home and I do not need the help of any government
official, including my kids' teachers.
.

User: "David Barnes"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 17 Feb 2004 10:19:19 AM
In article <d5qdnTgWWfDGv6_dRVn-ug@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:4s2330575sl9tkp951io41pkcgsgh61qfm@4ax.com...

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:55:13 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <F_idnfHVc_vR6azdRVn-tA@comcast.com>
wrote:



In case, the time should be spent learning, not in silent prayer. Why
can't children pray at home, or during recess or their lunch break?


You can't take away a childs right to silent prayer
You can't dictate when and where a child wishes to pray silently.
If it bothers you that much, you have more issues than you need to have.


If you had not indoctrinated the child it would not even know what
praying was.


And if you mind your own business and take care of your own children and not
worry about what I teach mine...the world would be a much better place.

Your children were talking about oral sex the other day, and you were
pissed.
.

User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 17 Feb 2004 09:40:17 AM
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:17:00 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <d5qdnTgWWfDGv6_dRVn-ug@comcast.com>
wrote:


"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:4s2330575sl9tkp951io41pkcgsgh61qfm@4ax.com...

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:55:13 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <F_idnfHVc_vR6azdRVn-tA@comcast.com>
wrote:



In case, the time should be spent learning, not in silent prayer. Why
can't children pray at home, or during recess or their lunch break?


You can't take away a childs right to silent prayer
You can't dictate when and where a child wishes to pray silently.
If it bothers you that much, you have more issues than you need to have.


If you had not indoctrinated the child it would not even know what
praying was.


And if you mind your own business and take care of your own children and not
worry about what I teach mine...the world would be a much better place.

Suddenly you don't want anyone else telling you what to do.
Interesting. Of course, if you are teaching your children to tell
mine what to do. . .
Is religious indoctrination child abuse?
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 17 Feb 2004 11:54:25 AM
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:17:00 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <d5qdnTgWWfDGv6_dRVn-ug@comcast.com>
wrote:


"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:55:13 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <F_idnfHVc_vR6azdRVn-tA@comcast.com>
wrote:



In case, the time should be spent learning, not in silent prayer.

Why

can't children pray at home, or during recess or their lunch break?


You can't take away a childs right to silent prayer
You can't dictate when and where a child wishes to pray silently.
If it bothers you that much, you have more issues than you need to

have.



If you had not indoctrinated the child it would not even know what
praying was.


And if you mind your own business and take care of your own children and

not

worry about what I teach mine...the world would be a much better place.


Suddenly you don't want anyone else telling you what to do.

I never wanted anyone telling me what to do in the first place.

Interesting. Of course, if you are teaching your children to tell
mine what to do. . .

Wrong again


Is religious indoctrination child abuse?

Nope
.
User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 17 Feb 2004 01:20:10 PM
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 12:54:25 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <k-idnVhDtO60yK_d4p2dnA@comcast.com>
wrote:



If you had not indoctrinated the child it would not even know what
praying was.


And if you mind your own business and take care of your own children and

not

worry about what I teach mine...the world would be a much better place.


Suddenly you don't want anyone else telling you what to do.


I never wanted anyone telling me what to do in the first place.

Amusing.


Interesting. Of course, if you are teaching your children to tell
mine what to do. . .


Wrong again

What part of 'if' do you fail to understand?



Is religious indoctrination child abuse?


Nope

That makes two opposite opinions.
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 17 Feb 2004 01:37:18 PM
pro-choice
Forget it, I had you on ignore for a reason. I notice a lot of you
pro-choice/aborts in here do this often. The moment I start to ignore one
of you, you change your alias.
It is so amazing as to how many "sudden" newbies come in here.
Barnes changes his alias, Krisblake, Keegan, so many...
If you can't handle being ignored, stop being such a *****.
Bye
.
User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 17 Feb 2004 02:34:24 PM
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 14:37:18 -0500, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <3dqdndXIPNSt8K_dRVn-jQ@comcast.com>
wrote:

pro-choice

Forget it, I had you on ignore for a reason. I notice a lot of you
pro-choice/aborts in here do this often. The moment I start to ignore one
of you, you change your alias.
It is so amazing as to how many "sudden" newbies come in here.
Barnes changes his alias, Krisblake, Keegan, so many...
If you can't handle being ignored, stop being such a *****.

Bye

I add a personalized to my name - the first change I have made in the
seven years I have been here - and you try to make a big deal out of
it.
If you can't read what is on the screen then that is your problem.
Thanks for killfiling me - it leaves me free to comment on you without
having to get into a dialog. Please leave me there.
.




User: "Warnock"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 21 Feb 2004 04:23:05 AM
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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And if you mind your own business and take care of your own children and

not

worry about what I teach mine...the world would be a much better place.


Suddenly you don't want anyone else telling you what to do.
Interesting. Of course, if you are teaching your children to tell
mine what to do. . .

Is religious indoctrination child abuse?

****** No its good education, however, denying a child Christmas
celebrations, with presents etc. is child abuse!! Especially in a country
where all the neighbours are doing it!
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
"Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you
with experience."
.
User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 23 Feb 2004 01:23:47 PM
(Newsgroups repaired)
"Warnock" <warnnock@pop.co.za> writes:

"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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And if you mind your own business and take care of your own children and
not worry about what I teach mine...the world would be a much better
place.

Suddenly you don't want anyone else telling you what to do.
Interesting. Of course, if you are teaching your children to tell
mine what to do. . .
Is religious indoctrination child abuse?

No its good education, however, denying a child Christmas
celebrations, with presents etc. is child abuse!! Especially in a country
where all the neighbours are doing it!

Really? By your laughable "logic", a child with Jewish parents is being
abused because they celebrate Hanukkah. Do you ever think before you blurt
out your idiocies? So far, that seems to be the case in the vast majority of
your proclamations.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
.




User: "Warnock"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 18 Feb 2004 09:17:12 AM
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:4s2330575sl9tkp951io41pkcgsgh61qfm@4ax.com...

In case, the time should be spent learning, not in silent prayer. Why
can't children pray at home, or during recess or their lunch break?


You can't take away a childs right to silent prayer
You can't dictate when and where a child wishes to pray silently.
If it bothers you that much, you have more issues than you need to have.


If you had not indoctrinated the child it would not even know what
praying was.

****** Being 'indoctrinated' by theists, is at least far better than being
indoctrinated by atheists!!
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
** People who deny that there is a God, are not so convinced that no God
exists, but are using this denial as a crutch to get out of having to comply
with God's Law!**
.



User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 18 Feb 2004 11:08:58 PM
Shawn \"Me\" Hearn <srhi@comcast.net> wrote:

"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Enkidu" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message

Public schools cannot set time aside for private prayer.
Not during hours where attendance is mandatory.


Yes, they do set aside a time.
It is called "moment of silence"
And children are free to pray at other times, such as before they eat their
meal.
Why would you want to take that away?


In case, the time should be spent learning, not in silent prayer. Why
can't children pray at home, or during recess or their lunch break?

***** Heishman is almost correct. Just as the schools cannot force
children to pray, they cannot deny children their right to pray.
While time cannot be set aside for the specific purpose of prayer,
time can be set aside for reflection. But I doubt that taxpayers are
much interested in paying teachers to sit around while children
"reflect".
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Adam H."

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 18 Feb 2004 11:16:12 PM
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 05:08:58 GMT,
(Ray
Fischer) wrote:

Shawn \"Me\" Hearn <srhi@comcast.net> wrote:

"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Enkidu" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message


Public schools cannot set time aside for private prayer.
Not during hours where attendance is mandatory.


Yes, they do set aside a time.
It is called "moment of silence"
And children are free to pray at other times, such as before they eat their
meal.
Why would you want to take that away?


In case, the time should be spent learning, not in silent prayer. Why
can't children pray at home, or during recess or their lunch break?


***** Heishman is almost correct. Just as the schools cannot force
children to pray, they cannot deny children their right to pray.

While time cannot be set aside for the specific purpose of prayer,
time can be set aside for reflection. But I doubt that taxpayers are
much interested in paying teachers to sit around while children
"reflect".

I've told Bobby that there is no absolute right to pray in school, and
he denies it - apparently he believes that children have the right to
pray in any fashion at any time and place in the school day.
Of course, what he means is CHRISTIAN children. Watch how fast he'd be
running to the school board if some Wiccan kid tried to excercise that
right he claims children have.
---
"A man's ethical behavior should be based
effectually on sympathy, education, and social
ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man
would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be
restrained by fear of punishment and hope of
reward after death."
Albert Einstein
.




User: "Warnock"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 18 Feb 2004 09:12:14 AM
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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A child can pray during school hours just as he or she can before or

after.


Provided it is an individual activity, not required, and no time is
set aside for it.

****** Time must be set aside for all theist children to have religious
activities. You want religion banned in schools, which leads to a school
full of atheist children!
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
** People who deny that there is a God, are not so convinced that no God
exists, but are using this denial as a crutch to get out of having to comply
with God's Law!**
.

User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 14 Feb 2004 06:57:34 PM
Osprey <
> wrote:

"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message

On 14 Feb 2004 10:37:29 -0800,

(osprey) wrote:

Enkidu <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message

tock@sbcglobal.net wrote:

Maybe in your part of town. In my part of town, 90% think of gays

as

"peachy keen!" And I'm sure that if you and I were locked in a room

for an

afternoon, I could convert you to my way of thinking . . .


I lived in North Park (San Diego) after I got married. Had many
neighbors who were gay. Met a lot of gay men and women, literally
hundreds. Never met one who wasn't considerate, well educated,
thoughtful, and considerate.

I've also met hundreds of bible-thumping born-agains. Quite a few were
intolerant, bigoted, selfish, uneducated people.

Given the choice, I'd rather a gay couple moved next door over an
evangelist any day.



Thus you have just displayed bigotry.
You are partial to a group.


Look up what that word means, Bobby. Learn the difference between
partial and 'strongly partial'.


Stop trying to make excuses for your own bigotry

What "bigotry", *****?

But you want to use homosexuality as an excuse to deny rights to
people.


Do you support a persons right to pray in school?

There already is such a right, moron.

No one said you had to agree either. You can simply accept the fact
that not everyone is going to think like you.


But we don't have to accept your attempts to strip rights away.


And I don't have to accept your lies

Heishman, you get caught lying so often that for you to whine
about lies is absurd.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.

User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 14 Feb 2004 12:52:29 PM
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Enkidu <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message news:<LYqXb.16803$IF1.10239@fed1read01>...

I lived in North Park (San Diego) after I got married. Had many
neighbors who were gay. Met a lot of gay men and women, literally
hundreds. Never met one who wasn't considerate, well educated,
thoughtful, and considerate.

I've also met hundreds of bible-thumping born-agains. Quite a few were
intolerant, bigoted, selfish, uneducated people.

Given the choice, I'd rather a gay couple moved next door over an
evangelist any day.


Thus you have just displayed bigotry.

You don't know what the word means, moron.

You are partial to a group.

So is everybody, moron.

I too know many gay people, and I have absolutely no problem with them
as a person.

You just hate "liberals".

I don't hate the homosexual, I hate the act.

Why do you care? Are you such an insecure little boy that you have to
care about how two other people have sex?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Warnock"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 15 Feb 2004 05:40:37 AM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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I lived in North Park (San Diego) after I got married. Had many
neighbors who were gay. Met a lot of gay men and women, literally
hundreds. Never met one who wasn't considerate, well educated,
thoughtful, and considerate.

I've also met hundreds of bible-thumping born-agains. Quite a few were
intolerant, bigoted, selfish, uneducated people.

Given the choice, I'd rather a gay couple moved next door over an
evangelist any day.


Thus you have just displayed bigotry.


You don't know what the word means, moron.

You are partial to a group.


So is everybody, moron.

I too know many gay people, and I have absolutely no problem with them
as a person.


You just hate "liberals".

I don't hate the homosexual, I hate the act.


Why do you care? Are you such an insecure little boy that you have to
care about how two other people have sex?

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

-***** Sure do, fags are a cancer in our society!
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
** People who deny that there is a God, are not so convinced that no God
exists, but are using this denial as a crutch to get out of having to comply
with God's Law!**
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 15 Feb 2004 02:58:53 PM
Warnock <warnnock@pop.co.za> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message

I don't hate the homosexual, I hate the act.


Why do you care? Are you such an insecure little boy that you have to
care about how two other people have sex?


-***** Sure do, fags are a cancer in our society!

While the hate and bigotry you exhibit has done nothing but make
life better for everybody.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Warnock"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 23 Feb 2004 02:59:33 AM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c0omic$gh9$1@bolt.sonic.net...

I don't hate the homosexual, I hate the act.


Why do you care? Are you such an insecure little boy that you have to
care about how two other people have sex?


-***** Sure do, fags are a cancer in our society!


While the hate and bigotry you exhibit has done nothing but make
life better for everybody.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

****** Fact is: You are stripping theists of the right to promote their
religion and have the world run on good theist principles, promoting atheism
and fags.
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
"Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you
with experience."
.
User: "Bob"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 23 Feb 2004 10:47:48 PM
"Warnock" <warnnock@pop.co.za> wrote in
news:c1df3l$r8$16@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c0omic$gh9$1@bolt.sonic.net...


I don't hate the homosexual, I hate the act.


Why do you care? Are you such an insecure little boy that you have
to care about how two other people have sex?


-***** Sure do, fags are a cancer in our society!


While the hate and bigotry you exhibit has done nothing but make
life better for everybody.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net


****** Fact is: You are stripping theists of the right to promote their
religion and have the world run on good theist principles, promoting
atheism and fags.

Yeah, we can see how the catholic priests promote their xtian religion
while they molest young children. Why doesn't your god prevent those
atrocities committed in it's name. No power, no inclination or ng god?

--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay,
can't breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and
breath life into it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****

"Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then
beat you with experience."









.

User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 23 Feb 2004 12:36:42 PM
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 10:59:33 +0200, "Warnock" <warnnock@pop.co.za> in
alt.abortion with message-id <c1df3l$r8$16@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c0omic$gh9$1@bolt.sonic.net...


I don't hate the homosexual, I hate the act.


Why do you care? Are you such an insecure little boy that you have to
care about how two other people have sex?


-***** Sure do, fags are a cancer in our society!


While the hate and bigotry you exhibit has done nothing but make
life better for everybody.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net


****** Fact is: You are stripping theists of the right to promote their
religion

Exactly where is this right to be found? Please be specific.

and have the world run on good theist principles, promoting atheism
and fags.

.
User: "Warnock"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 24 Feb 2004 02:46:08 PM
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:3vhk30d4flu4siijr0a6u0a6ofjq8ps7la@4ax.com...

I don't hate the homosexual, I hate the act.

Why do you care? Are you such an insecure little boy that you have

to

care about how two other people have sex?


-***** Sure do, fags are a cancer in our society!


While the hate and bigotry you exhibit has done nothing but make
life better for everybody.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net


****** Fact is: You are stripping theists of the right to promote their
religion


Exactly where is this right to be found? Please be specific.

****** Freedom of speech, religion and association!
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,
both of them have committed an abomination: they shall
surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
.
User: "--sexkitten--"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 24 Feb 2004 06:16:49 PM
Warnock wrote:

"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:3vhk30d4flu4siijr0a6u0a6ofjq8ps7la@4ax.com...


I don't hate the homosexual, I hate the act.


Why do you care? Are you such an insecure little boy that you have


to

care about how two other people have sex?


-***** Sure do, fags are a cancer in our society!


While the hate and bigotry you exhibit has done nothing but make
life better for everybody.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net


****** Fact is: You are stripping theists of the right to promote their
religion


Exactly where is this right to be found? Please be specific.



****** Freedom of speech, religion and association!

Yet you want to deny gay people the exact same rights you wave around as
protecting you?
Free Clue: You do not have the right to "promote" your religion among
those who have no interest in it.

--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,
both of them have committed an abomination: they shall
surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.



.



User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 23 Feb 2004 08:54:56 PM
Warnock <warnnock@pop.co.za> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message

I don't hate the homosexual, I hate the act.


Why do you care? Are you such an insecure little boy that you have to
care about how two other people have sex?


-***** Sure do, fags are a cancer in our society!


While the hate and bigotry you exhibit has done nothing but make
life better for everybody.


****** Fact is: You are stripping theists of the right to promote their
religion

You are a liar.

and have the world run on good theist principles,

Like the hatred and bigotry that you espouse.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Republicans for KERRY 24 Feb 2004 12:57:53 AM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c1eedv$gt5$1@bolt.sonic.net...

Warnock <warnnock@pop.co.za> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message

I don't hate the homosexual, I hate the act.

That's just because you don't know how to do it right, honey . . .
Take a class, watch a few videos, see how the experts do it, and you'll
catch on . . .
--Tock
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