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User: "Prominent Bethelite"
Date: 10 Feb 2004 06:39:13 PM
Object: Re: Devout Jehovah's Witness "L.Perez" caught posting in PORNO ng's!
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Thus spake sage Dizzbee59:

OH-HOO! This is SO hysterical!!!
DANCE teacher!!

:-)
There is nothing wrong with being a dance teacher, Dizz. No. As long as
money is earned honestly and fairly and through one's own work. And as long=
as the teaching is sincere, the fact that the poor student won't learn much=
from ones so clumsy is no reason to laugh at poor "Pereth" (he corrects
people who pronounce it "Perez" or "Peress"; UADNA has reached out into the=
land of dust).
But I do know what you found so funny.
Perhaps LP is that one and only dance teacher on this planet who is also a
world-class expert on some or all of ancient Mediterranean-bowl languages,
Biblical eschatology, archeology, anthropology, physics, paleontology,
pre-medieval history, astronomy, molecular biology, evolution, medicine,
geology, mathematics, scientific theology and so on. Which would explain
why he is so confident he is right, and tens, perhaps hundreds, of
thousands of people (yep, including myself) who are world-class experts at
one or more of the abovestated fields are WRONG but he, L.Perez, failed
dance instructor (and wannabe choreographer) currently holed out in *uc*o*
is RIGHT!
Of course, Occam's Razor suggests that where a simpler explanation also
"works" without any problem, it is more likely to be the truth...
Here the simpler explanation is that Mr Pere'th' of unpronounceable first
name (well, since the kooks at the WT rendered Eh-Weh into Jehovah, I'd
call him Luis except that Luis Perez is a competent choreographer who
resents any confusion with the desert duffer) is one of JEHOVAH'S
WITNESSES. Suddenly after wifey indoctrinated him into the cult (I take it
the post I just saw in arj-w is a forgery, but she sure was the evil one
who shackled the fool to the WTBTS) "L Perez" became a top expert on all
these fields! No degree at all, let alone no decades of post-doctoral study=
needed to reach the top of an academic field today - "L Perez" dispensed
with all that in a trice!
;-)
How silly people are to spend years on hard study in complex,
mind-stretching fields! All we have to do is sign up (again?) to the JW
cult, and - bang - we have all the wisdom we need to make fools of all the
worldlies! LOL! LOL! LOL! And with such awesome arrogance too.
Even when the little fool can't even get his scriptural references right. I=
thought I was going to be hard-pressed finding an idiot jW who knew even
less about the Bible than the odious cheat Mark Soreson (whose "tough Bible=
quizzes" never take me more than five seconds apiece to solve), and then up=
pops "L Perez"!

Guffaw!!!!

Cheeky grin.

P.S.-----Maybe someday if I'm REAL good, I'll get to find out who Prominen=

t

Bethelite really is...........been reading his posts for years and ALWAYS
wonder....(sigh)

Sigh - again. Perhaps if you are bad, you are more likely to find
Prominent Bethelite. :-)
To find PB, just look into yourself, into the part of you that WILL NOT
TOLERATE LYING, CHEATING OR DECEIVING OTHERS, and who is PREPARED TO FIGHT
ON FOREVER AGAINST EVIL, WICKEDNESS AND INJUSTICE, irrespective of the cost=
to oneself (though cognisant of the cost to others; were I to reveal
myself, the damage to those I love would outweigh everything).
There, found that part of you?
Then, you have found "Prominent Bethelite".
Let the small-minded ones pontificate on what Prominent must mean, and what=
Bethelite must mean, and what the two words together must (therefore?)
mean. They will never find Prominent Bethelite. :-) They can't even see
the myriad meanings each word has.
And that the jW-"sychophants" [sic] associate positive things with "Bethel"=
only shows their deep ignorance of (even their own grievously
mistranslated) Bible. Here is what the Watchtower's own (idiotic)
Encyclopedia has to say:
"As a major city of the northern kingdom under Jeroboam, Bethel .. now
became renowned as a center of false worship. At Bethel, in the extreme
south of the newly formed kingdom of Israel .. Jeroboam set up the golden
calves in his effort to dissuade the people of his realm from going to the
temple at Jerusalem. (1Ki 12:27-29) With its own religious house and
altar, a specially invented festival time, and priests selected from among
the non-Levitical tribes, Bethel became a symbol of rank apostasy from
true worship. (1Ki 12:31-33) Jehovah God did not delay in expressing his
disapproval through a 'man of the true God' sent to Bethel to pronounce
judgment against the altar used in connection with calf worship. The
ripping apart of this altar served as a portent, confirming the sure
fulfillment of the prophet's words. After leaving Bethel, however, this
'man of the true God' allowed himself to be induced by an old prophet of
Bethel to accept and act on a supposed message from an angel in violation
of the direct orders from God, with disastrous consequences to himself.
Slain by a lion, he was buried at Bethel in the personal burial place of
the old prophet who saw in all these events the certainty of the
fulfillment of Jehovah's word and thus requested that his own body be
buried at death in the same burial site.-1Ki 13:1-32.. Despite the
prevalence of false worship there, the record shows Bethel as the location
of a group of prophets .. Bethel was also the home of the group of jeering
boys who mocked Elisha, this costing many of them their lives as a result
of divine execution.-2Ki 2:1-3, 23, 24.. The prophets Amos and Hosea, in
the late ninth and mid-eighth centuries B.C.E., proclaimed God's
condemnation of the religious corruption centered at Bethel. Although
Hosea makes direct mention of Bethel (meaning 'House of God') only when
recalling God's revelation of himself to faithful Jacob there (Ho 12:4),
he evidently employs the name 'Beth-aven,' meaning 'House of Hurtfulness
(Something Hurtful),' as applying to that city and the effect of its false
religious practices. (Ho 4:15; 5:8) He warns that its calf idol served by
foreign-god priests will come to be a cause for mourning to idolatrous
Israel, its high places will be annihilated, and thorns and thistles will
cover its altars; while the people, faced with exile in Assyria, cry out
to the mountains, 'Cover us!' and to the hills, 'Fall over us!' (Ho
10:5-8; compare Lu 23:30; Re 6:16.) The prophet Amos spoke in similar
vein, showing that, no matter how frequent the sacrifices offered by the
people at Bethel's altars, their pious pilgrimages to that place only
constituted the commission of transgression, and warning that Jehovah's
burning anger would blaze against them inextinguishably. (Am 3:14; 4:4;
5:5, 6) Angered at this prophesying done by Amos right in Bethel, the
apostate priest Amaziah accused Amos of seditious talk and ordered him to
'go back to Judah where he came from' and there do his prophesying: 'But
at Bethel you must no longer do any further prophesying, for it is the
sanctuary of a king and it is the house of a kingdom.'-Am 7:10-13."
To help you follow the references, all Scripture below is from the
Jehovah's Witnesses OWN "New World Translation" (NWT). The parts of the NWT=
quoted here are full of errors (well, 100% of the NWT is), not least the
fraudulent insertion of "Jehovah" all over the place - but I am using this
horrific mistranslation to illustrate that even the JW's only fake Bible
shows Bethel EXCLUSIVELY associated with wickedness, false religious
practice, uncleanness, rebellion against lawful authority, false worship,
uncanny things, incorrect prophesying, transgression, murder, idolatry and
so on.... no doubt why they chose "Bethel" as the name of all their
national and their international headquarters, and why I am a Bethelite
too.
1 Kings 12:27-33, 13:1-32
If this people continues going up to render sacrifices in the house of
Jehovah in Jerusalem, the heart of this people will also be bound to return=
to their lord, Re=B7ho=B7bo'am the king of Judah; and they will certainly k=
ill
me and return to Re=B7ho=B7bo'am the king of Judah." Consequently the king =
took
counsel and made two golden calves and said to the people: "It is too much
for YOU to go up to Jerusalem. Here is your God, O Israel, that brought you=
up out of the land of Egypt." Then he placed the one in Beth'el, and the
other he put in Dan. And this thing came to be a cause for sin, and the
people began to go before the one as far as Dan. And he began to make a
house of high places and to make priests from the people in general, who
did not happen to be of the sons of Le'vi. And Jer=B7o=B7bo'am went on to m=
ake
a festival in the eighth month on the fifteenth day of the month, like the
festival that was in Judah, that he might make offerings upon the altar
that he had made in Beth'el, to sacrifice to the calves that he had made;
and he put in attendance at Beth'el the priests of the high places that he
had made. And he began to make offerings upon the altar that he had made in=
Beth'el on the fifteenth day in the eighth month, in the month that he had
invented by himself; and he proceeded to make a festival for the sons of
Israel and to make offerings upon the altar to make sacrificial smoke.
[.........]
And here there was a man of God that had come out of Judah by the word of
Jehovah to Beth'el, while Jer=B7o=B7bo'am was standing by the altar to make=
sacrificial smoke. Then he called out against the altar by the word of
Jehovah and said: "O altar, altar, this is what Jehovah has said, 'Look! A
son born to the house of David, whose name is Jo=B7si'ah! And he will
certainly sacrifice upon you the priests of the high places that are making=
sacrificial smoke upon you, and men's bones he will burn upon you.'"
And he gave a portent on that day, saying: "This is the portent of which
Jehovah has spoken: Look! The altar is ripped apart, and the fatty ashes
that are upon it will certainly be spilled out." And it came about that, as=
soon as the king heard the word of the man of the [true] God that he had
called out against the altar in Beth'el, Jer=B7o=B7bo'am at once thrust out=
his
hand from off the altar, saying: "YOU men, grab hold of him!" Immediately
his hand that he had thrust out against him became dried up, and he was not=
able to draw it back to himself. And the altar itself was ripped apart so
that the fatty ashes were spilled out from the altar, according to the
portent that the man of the [true] God had given by the word of Jehovah.
The king now answered and said to the man of the [true] God: "Soften,
please, the face of Jehovah your God and pray in my behalf that my hand may=
be restored to me." At this the man of the [true] God softened the face of
Jehovah, so that the king's hand was restored to him, and it came to be as
at first. And the king went on to say to the man of the [true] God: "Do
come with me to the house and take sustenance, and let me give you a gift."=
But the man of the [true] God said to the king: "If you gave me half of
your house I would not come with you and eat bread or drink water in this
place.
For that is the way he commanded me by the word of Jehovah, saying, 'You
must not eat bread or drink water, and you must not return by the way that
you went.'" And he began to go by another way, and he did not return by the=
way by which he had come to Beth'el. And a certain old prophet was dwelling=
in Beth'el, and his sons now came in and related to him all the work that
the man of the [true] God had done that day in Beth'el [and] the words that=
he had spoken to the king, and they went on relating them to their father.
Then their father spoke to them: "Which way, then, did he go?" So his sons
showed him the way that the man of the [true] God that had come out of
Judah had gone. He now said to his sons: "Saddle the ***** for me."
Accordingly they saddled the ***** for him, and he went riding on it. And he
went following the man of the [true] God and got to find him sitting under
the big tree. Then he said to him: "Are you the man of the [true] God who
has come out of Judah?" to which he said: "I am." And he went on to say to
him: "Go with me to the house and eat bread." But he said: "I am not able
to go back with you or to come in with you, and I may not eat bread or
drink water with you in this place. For it has been spoken to me by the
word of Jehovah, 'You must not eat bread or drink water there. You must not=
go back again by the way by which you went.'" At this he said to him: "I
too am a prophet like you, and an angel himself spoke to me by the word of
Jehovah, saying, 'Have him come back with you to your house that he may eat=
bread and drink water.'" (He deceived him.) So he went back with him that
he might eat bread in his house and drink water. And it came about, while
they were sitting at the table, that the word of Jehovah came to the
prophet that had brought him back;
and he began to call out to the man of the [true] God that had come out of
Judah, saying: "This is what Jehovah has said, 'For the reason that you
rebelled against the order of Jehovah and did not keep the commandment with=
which Jehovah your God commanded you, but you went back that you might eat
bread and drink water in the place about which he spoke to you: "Do not eat=
bread or drink water," your dead body will not come into the burial place
of your forefathers.'" And it came about after his eating bread and after
his drinking that he at once saddled for him the *****, that is, for the
prophet whom he had brought back. And he got on his way. Later a lion found=
him on the road and put him to death, and his dead body came to be thrown
onto the road. And the ***** was standing beside it, and the lion was
standing beside the dead body. And here there were men passing by, so that
they got to see the dead body thrown onto the road and the lion standing
beside the dead body. Then they came in and spoke of it in the city in
which the old prophet was dwelling. When the prophet that had brought him
back from the way heard of it, he immediately said: "It is the man of the
[true] God that rebelled against the order of Jehovah; and so Jehovah gave
him to the lion, that he might crush him and put him to death, according to=
the word of Jehovah that he spoke to him." And he went on to speak to his
sons, saying: "Saddle the ***** for me." So they saddled it. Then he got on
his way and found the dead body of him thrown onto the road with the *****
and the lion standing beside the dead body. The lion had not eaten the dead=
body, nor had it crushed the *****. And the prophet proceeded to lift up the
dead body of the man of the [true] God and to deposit him upon the ***** and
to bring him back. Thus he came into the city of the old prophet to bewail
and bury him. Accordingly he deposited his dead body in his own burial
place; and they kept wailing over him: "Too bad, my brother!" And it came
about after his burying him that he went on to say to his sons: "When I die=
YOU must bury me in the burial place in which the man of the [true] God is
buried. Beside his bones deposit my own bones. For without fail the word
that he called out by the word of Jehovah against the altar that is in
Beth'el and against all the houses of the high places that are in the
cities of Sa=B7mar'i=B7a will take place."
2Ki 2:1-3,23,24
And it came about that when Jehovah was to take E=B7li'jah in a windstorm u=
p
to the heavens, E=B7li'jah and E=B7li'sha proceeded to go from Gil'gal. And=
E=B7li'jah began to say to E=B7li'sha: "Sit here, please, because Jehovah
himself has sent me clear to Beth'el." But E=B7li'sha said: "As Jehovah is
living and as your soul is living, I will not leave you." So they went down=
to Beth'el. Then the sons of the prophets that were at Beth'el came out to
E=B7li' sha and said to him: "Do you really know that today Jehovah is taki=
ng
your master from headship over you?" At this he said: "I, too, well know
it. BE silent."
[.........]
And he proceeded to go up from there to Beth'el. As he was going up on the
way, there were small boys that came out from the city and began to jeer
him and that kept saying to him: "Go up, you baldhead! Go up, you
baldhead!" Finally he turned behind him and saw them and called down evil
upon them in the name of Jehovah. Then two she-bears came out from the
woods and went tearing to pieces forty-two children of their number.
Hosea 4:15; 5:8; 10:5-8; 12:4=20
Although you are committing fornication, O Israel, let not Judah become
guilty, and do not YOU people come to Gil'gal, neither go up to Beth-a'ven
nor swear 'As Jehovah is alive!'
[.........]
"BLOW a horn in Gib'e=B7ah, a trumpet in Ra'mah! SHOUT a war cry at
Beth-a'ven - after you, O Benjamin!
[.........]
For the calf [idol] of Beth-a'ven the residents of Sa=B7mar'i=B7a will get
frightened; for over it its people will certainly mourn, as well as its
foreign-god priests [who] used to be joyful over it, on account of its
glory, because it will have gone into exile away from it. Even it someone
will bring to As=B7syr'i=B7a itself as a gift to a great king. Shame is wha=
t
E'phra=B7im himself will get, and Israel will be ashamed of its counsel.
Sa=B7mar'i=B7a [and] her king will certainly be silenced, like a snapped-of=
f
twig on the surface of waters. And the high places of [Beth-]a'ven, the sin=
of Israel, will actually be annihilated. Thorns and thistles themselves
will come up upon their altars. And people will in fact say to the
mountains, 'Cover us!' and to the hills, 'Fall over us!'
[.........]
And he kept contending with an angel and gradually prevailed. He wept, that=
he might implore favor for himself." At Beth'el He got to find him, and
there He began talking with us.
Am 3:14; 4:4; 5:5,6; 7:10-13
'For, in the day of my holding an accounting for the revolts of Israel
against him, I will also hold an accounting against the altars of Beth'el;
and the horns of the altar will certainly be cut off and must fall to the
earth.
[.........]
"Come, YOU people, to Beth'el and commit transgression. At Gil'gal be
frequent in committing transgression, and bring YOUR sacrifices in the
morning; on the third day, YOUR tenth parts.
[.........]
And do not search for Beth'el, and to Gil'gal YOU must not come, and to
Be'er-she'ba YOU must not pass over; because Gil'gal itself will without
fail go into exile; and as regards Beth'el, it will become something
uncanny. Search for Jehovah, and keep living, that he may not become
operative just like fire, O house of Joseph, and it may not actually
devour, and Beth'el may not be with no one to extinguish [it],
[.........]
And Am=B7a=B7zi'ah the priest of Beth'el proceeded to send to Jer=B7o=B7bo'=
am the
king of Israel, saying: "A'mos has conspired against you right inside the
house of Israel. The land is not able to put up with all his words. For
this is what A'mos has said, 'By the sword Jer=B7o=B7bo'am will die; and as=
regards Israel, it will without fail go into exile from its own ground.'"
And Am=B7a=B7zi'ah proceeded to say to A'mos: "O visionary, go, run your wa=
y
off to the land of Judah, and there eat bread, and there you may prophesy.
But at Beth'el you must no longer do any further prophesying, for it is the=
sanctuary of a king and it is the house of a kingdom."
Just see what a DEN OF INIQUITY WAS BETHEL! Come to Bethel and commit
transgression, as it says in Amos 4:4 above. How much more obvious can it
be? This is the "upper-intelligence filter" that Brooklyn deliberately
applies when recruiting.
The only smart people wanted are smart WOLVES who know the whoreganization
(The Great ***** of Babylon, A False Prophet, A Scarlet-Colored Beast, an
Antichrist, the Disgusting Thing of scripture) is all what I say it is
here:
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The Watchtower Society and the Jehovah's Witnesses Cult is an embodiment of=
SPIRITUAL PORNOGRAPHY, a WOLFISH TRICK, a MOST FILTHY LIE, a CHEAT, a SCAM,=
a DISGUSTING ABOMINATION, a BLASPHEMOUS INSULT, a WICKED FRAUD, a DISGRACE,=
a SCANDAL, a PEDOPHILE PARADISE - and a DAMNED OUTRAGE from start to finish=
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Love
Prominent Bethelite.
Examples of FINE SPIRITUAL FOOD AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME FROM "THE SLAVE":
"We need not here repeat the evidences that the 'seventh trump' began its
sounding in A.D. 1840, and will continue until the end of the time of
trouble" {WT Nov 1880 p1}; "masturbation is no mere innocent pastime but
rather a practice that can lead to homosexual acts" {WT May 15 1970 p315;
also WT Oct 1 1970 p604}; "If heaven were made the receptacle of the
heathen, savages, barbarians, the idiotic, simple, insane and INFANTS, it
would cease to be heaven to a considerable extent, and become a pandemonium=
.. billions of ignorant, imbecile and degraded .. never formed characters
[not] fit companions for saints" {WT Oct 15 1896 p245} Fine JW Wisdom!!
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THE LIST OF AMAZING JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES' CLAIMS, BELIEFS & PREDICTIONS
Prepared by MYSELF may be found at the following websites:-
http://www.freeminds.org/history/part1.htm
http://www1.tip.nl/~t661020/wtcitaten/part1.htm
http://localsonly.wilmington.net/jmalik/TheList.zip
http://www.concordance.com/watchtower.htm
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disgusting or plain illegal, you are probably a brainwashed member of the
Jehovah's Witless Cult, and frankly, dear, I couldn't give a damn.
The following message applies to JWs who try to abuse remailers and drive
readers away from newsgroups exposing Watchtower fraud and trickery by
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Some people hate this remailer so badly that, for example, they did not hesitate to celebrate the death of 148 French tourists in a plane crash.
Those people seceded from the human race, so don't hesitate to report them directly to the police.
2004/01/03 (contact <abuse@cotse.com>) Blue.Jay celebrates
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Ymx1ZWpheQ%3D%3D.19d787f018eb3019d6fd3faa2125547c%401073158846.cotse.net&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
2004/01/19 <rabbi@thetis.deor.org> Len Sassaman chooses that moment to bring his support to Blue.Jay
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