In article <Xns9533E6820F42Fkeegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4>, "james g.
keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:

Well the average woman in the USSR had an average of six abortions
in her lifetime. Boy howdy, those women sure were liberated!

do you apologize for lying when someone asks you to document a false
claim like the one you made here?

Supposing I could produce some online references, I would imagine it
would be you who would have to apologize for saying I was lying.

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http://www.libertarian.co.uk/lapubs/econn/econn011.pdf

Abortion is the main method of birth control in the Soviet
Union, with a working woman having an average of eight abortions
in a life time. The main reason for this is that there is no other
widely available form of contraception and a Soviet family has to
have two incomes. The woman is therefore forced to work by
economic circumstances.


intranet.westminster.org.uk/publications/elizabethan/magazine/2001/p23.ht
m

"In some countries, abortion is the most popular form of contraception;
in the former USSR, for example, the average woman has 6 to 7 abortions
in her lifetime, the mental and physical implications of which are
horrifying."


http://www.icddrb.org/pub/publication.jsp?classificationID=30&pubID=301

     "In the more eastern countries of Western Europe, such as Romania
and Bulgaria, the effective practice of withdrawal had never been
widespread, and abortion played the dominant role. In the former
USSR­the first country to permit legal abortion (in 1920)­up to 3 of 4
pregnancies were being aborted, at least in Moscow."


http://www.cbctrust.com/abortion.html

Abortion has traditionally been the primary method of birth control in
the Soviet Union because of a lack of contraceptive devices and
information, and because of the traditional orientation of the Soviet
health service system towards termination, not prevention, of pregnancy.
Officially, 55% of known pregnancies are terminated by abortion, but the
true rate is probably higher.90 The level of induced abortion is higher
in the former USSR than in any other country in the world.91 It is not
uncommon for a Soviet woman to have four or five abortions and a few
women to have as many as twenty.


http://www.lib.utah.edu/epubs/undergrad/vol7/kotlyar.html

"Olga Lipovskaya, 35 years old, married three times, two children, and
seven abortions: "You stand in line before the door of the operating
room, seven or eight of you, waiting to be taken in. The clinic's staff
is too busy to do anything but operate, so as each woman who's finished
staggers out you take turns getting out of line for a few minutes, just
to help her get to the resting room down the hall. Then it's your turn,
and you go into a hall splattered with blood where two doctors are
aborting seven or eight women at the same time; they're usually very
rough and rude, shouting at you about keeping your legs wide open...if
you're lucky they give you a little sedative, mostly Valium. Then it's
your turn to stagger out to the resting room, where you're not allowed
to spend more than two hours because the production line, you see, is
always very busy." Olga estimates that she will have about fourteen
abortions in total, which she guesses to be the national average. She
knows women who have had twenty-five."

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Was I lying because the average Soviet woman had *more* than six
abortions? In any case, I hope you're able to defend your statement in
less time than it took to accuse *me* of lying.

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On 28 Jul 2004 02:39:35 GMT, "james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com>
wrote, in part:

tagutcow@earthlink.net (Tripping in Tempur Fields) wrote in
news:tagutcow-2707042210250001@user-0c992qm.cable.mindspring.com:

Well the average woman in the USSR had an average of six abortions in
her lifetime. Boy howdy, those women sure were liberated!

do you apologize for lying when someone asks you to document a false
claim like the one you made here?

The book "Moscow Farewell" might prove interesting.