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"Mimi Cohen" |
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31 Jan 2006 05:52:46 PM |
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Re: Don't Fund Hamastan |
DoD wrote:
The Palestinian people have delivered a resounding vote against peace -
calling, in their election, for a continuation of the savage and sanguinary
war against Israel. This sharp reversal in the peace process should not go
without a vigorous response from Washington.
President Bush is correct to cut off all dealings with the Palestinian
Authority until Hamas renounces and reins in its campaign of terror against
Israel. But the United States should go further and cut off all direct and
indirect assistance to the PA or to Palestinian refugee groups until Hamas
makes the requisite declarations.
The U.S. taxpayer is the foremost financial supporter of the Palestinian
community, now set to come under Hamas management. Last year, America gave
$81 million directly to Palestinians in Gaza and on the West Bank and was
responsible for a considerable share of the almost $1 billion in aid to the
Palestinian Authority from the United Nations and its relief organizations.
The United States should:
1) Cut off all direct subsidy of the Palestinian refugee population or its
political or charitable organs.
2) Demand that the United Nations follow suit.
3) Immediately suspend all payments to the United Nations until it does so.
After all, Israel is a U.N. member. How can the United Nations subsidize an
entity that is dedicated to the destruction of one of its members?
By a direct and aggressive response to the Palestinian vote, the United
States will assure that it is not placed in the incongruous position of
funding the deadly adversary of its ally, Israel.
Some will argue that we allowed aid to flow under Yasser Arafat. But we did
not do that until he pledged to work with Israel and to cease his efforts to
destroy it. When it became clear that he was double dealing and, in fact,
winking at terrorist attacks on Israel, the United States set in motion a
series of events that led to a new democratic Palestinian Authority (aided
by Arafat's death, of course).
Now the United States should ratchet up its pressure on the Palestinian
Authority: Cut off all funding.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21099
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31 Jan 2006 07:40:37 PM |
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Jew's dirty trick: Iran already has the bomb
By: URI DAN, Jerusalem Post on: 31.01.2006 [15:30 ] (660 reads)
Rafi Eitan suspects that Iran already has enough enriched uranium
fissionable material to manufacture at least one or two atom bombs of the
Hiroshima type. "Otherwise Iranian President Ahmadinejad would not have
dared come out with his declaration that Israel should be wiped off the
map,"
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Rafi Eitan suspects that Iran already has enough enriched uranium
fissionable material to manufacture at least one or two atom bombs of the
Hiroshima type. "Otherwise Iranian President Ahmadinejad would not have
dared come out with his declaration that Israel should be wiped off the
map," repeating it in various versions. His efforts at denying the Holocaust
in which six million Jews were slaughtered prove that there is method in
Ahmadinejad's madness. "Don't treat him like a madman," Chief of General
Staff Dan Halutz recently cautioned.
Eitan's assessment of the situation is especially important because of his
extensive intelligence experience in Israel's struggle for its existence,
even before its establishment in 1948. Eitan was among those that laid the
operational foundations for the Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) and the
Mossad.
He is credited with numerous successes above and beyond the fact that he
headed the team that apprehended Adolf Eichmann in Buenos Aires in May 1960
and brought him to justice in Jerusalem. He served as Menachem Begin's
special adviser on the war on terror. He was involved in the secret planning
and implementation of the attack on the Iraqi nuclear reactor in June 1981.
Eitan failed in 1985 when the United States arrested Jonathan Pollard, an
American navy intelligence analyst, for spying for Israel. Eitan was forced
to resign after taking responsibility for running Pollard as an Israeli
agent in the United States. It emerged at that time that Eitan had stood at
the head of an Israeli intelligence agency known as the Office of Scientific
Relations, LAKAM by its Hebrew acronym.
EITAN, CURRENTLY a private businessman who is close to 80 years old, is not
only still sharp, quick and curious, but also takes a strong interest in the
dangers posed to Israel. And so he came this week to the Herzliya Conference
to hear the lectures and meet with colleagues from other countries.
Eitan told me: "I am convinced that the Iranians already have at least one
or two nuclear devices. They have been operating centrifuges for a number of
years now, they have natural uranium, and who on earth believes the Iranians
when they say that they have closed down one facility or another? You would
have to be an idiot or terribly na ve to believe them."
Eitan says that this view was bolstered by conversations he held with
various experts from abroad who came to the Herzliya Conference - that Iran
already has a an atom bomb. What should concern not only Israel but Europe
too, continues Eitan, is the fact that the Iranians have acquired cruise
missiles with a 3,000-kilometer range. They tried to purchase nine missiles
of this kind in Ukraine from the arsenal of the former Soviet Union, but
Russia thwarted part of the deal and Iran received three or four such
missiles.
"In an argument with colleagues from abroad," noted Rafi Eitan, "the
question was whether Iran's current president is a sort of new Hitler or
merely an international manipulator. Too many experts have judged him in
accordance with his actions and declarations as a kind of extremist Islamist
Hitler."
The American administration of George W. Bush is entirely aware of the
burgeoning Iranian nuclear danger. The question is whether the leading
countries in Europe will wake up in time to the danger too. "The diplomatic
struggle against the Iranian nuclear danger," warns Eitan, "must be an
international one and it must come in time. The danger of nuclear weapons in
the hands of Teheran is no less serious than when Saddam Hussein built the
French Osirak nuclear reactor in Baghdad."
What worries Rafi Eitan is that the news coming from Teheran shows that
President Ahmadinejad will not hesitate to take the most extreme measures,
not unlike the methods used in the Third Reich, to put down any opposition
against him. Iran has hundreds of thousands of young people who are opposed
to the conceptual and cultural darkness that the fundamental Islamists are
forcing on them. "Don't be surprised," Rafi Eitan told me, "if the Iranian
president tries to forcibly and brutally eliminate this opposition."
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31 Jan 2006 08:06:29 PM |
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Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
DoD wrote:
The Palestinian people have delivered a resounding vote against peace -
Obvious bigotry. Israel has doen everything to undermine and destroy
any peaceful relationship with the Palestinians. Israel has failed to
keep promises, imposed economic hardship, and put the Palestinians
under oppressive military rule.
Since Israel made sure Fatah failed, Hamas took Fatahs place.
But to the pro-Israeli fanatic nothing can every be the fault of
Israel. It's always the fault of hated Arabs and Palestinians.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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01 Feb 2006 11:41:41 AM |
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From 1947-1967 the Palestinians were under Jordanian rule. The UN
set up a separate Palestinian state, but the Hassemites decided it was
theirs and kept the people in camps, telling them they had to go back
to Israel. The Israelis didn't keep their refugees in camps at the
border. (Neither did the Greeks & Turks in 1922; Nor the Pakistanis &
Hindus in 1947.) When the PLO staged a coup against the Hassemites,
they found themselves evicted to Lebanon for another two decades. The
Palestinians remained the sock puppets of Nasserism until Reagan got
the Hassemites to renounce claims to the "West Bank" and the
Palestinians had their shot at having a country again. It's time to
settle the Palestinians down. Build them sanitation, schools,
hospitals. Hamas & Fatah don't have to touch this money. These people
are tired of being puppets. Ignore Hamas like it doesn't exist. If
the Palestinian average folk are reasonably settled down, they won't
be fodder for the terrorists.
And don't go misusing -stan. I worked with an Iranian Jewish girl
who once asked "How do you call Magyaristan?" She meant Hungary. I
mean, if you don't want to be called Yankistan, or how's this for fun,
call France "Frankistan". Besides, isn't "Yehudi" (Judah) the root of
"Yiddish" hence it would have to be "Yehudistan" if you wanted to do
it right.
- = -
Vasos-Peter John Panagiotopoulos II, Columbia'81+, Bio$trategist
BachMozart ReaganQuayle EvrytanoKastorian
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vjp2/vasos.htm
---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---
[Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Remorse begets zeal] [Windows is for Bimbos]
[Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards]
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01 Feb 2006 12:17:33 PM |
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<vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com> wrote:
From 1947-1967 the Palestinians were under Jordanian rule. The UN
set up a separate Palestinian state, but the Hassemites decided it was
Irrelevant. Israel has controlled hte West Bank for the past 40 years
and has provided nothing but oppression, poverty, and killing.
The 3rd-grade whine "they did it to" doesn't excuse Israel.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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01 Feb 2006 04:00:40 PM |
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In <43e0fb3d$0$58117$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> by Ray Fischer
<rfischer@sonic.net> on 01 Feb 2006 18:17:33 GMT we perused:
*+-The 3rd-grade whine "they did it to" doesn't excuse Israel.
Y'know how silly your reply looks?
- = -
Vasos-Peter John Panagiotopoulos II, Columbia'81+, Bio$trategist
BachMozart ReaganQuayle EvrytanoKastorian
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vjp2/vasos.htm
---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---
[Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Remorse begets zeal] [Windows is for Bimbos]
[Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards]
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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01 Feb 2006 09:38:05 PM |
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wrote:
In <43e0fb3d$0$58117$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> by Ray Fischer
<rfischer@sonic.net> on 01 Feb 2006 18:17:33 GMT we perused:
*+-The 3rd-grade whine "they did it to" doesn't excuse Israel.
Y'know how silly your reply looks?
As ridiculous as all of his other whines do.
- = -
Vasos-Peter John Panagiotopoulos II, Columbia'81+, Bio$trategist
BachMozart ReaganQuayle EvrytanoKastorian
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vjp2/vasos.htm
---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---
[Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Remorse begets zeal] [Windows is for Bimbos]
[Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards]
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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01 Feb 2006 09:27:09 PM |
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wrote:
From 1947-1967 the Palestinians were under Jordanian rule. The UN
set up a separate Palestinian state, but the Hassemites decided it was
theirs and kept the people in camps, telling them they had to go back
to Israel. The Israelis didn't keep their refugees in camps at the
border. (Neither did the Greeks & Turks in 1922; Nor the Pakistanis &
Hindus in 1947.) When the PLO staged a coup against the Hassemites,
they found themselves evicted to Lebanon for another two decades. The
Palestinians remained the sock puppets of Nasserism until Reagan got
the Hassemites to renounce claims to the "West Bank" and the
Palestinians had their shot at having a country again. It's time to
settle the Palestinians down. Build them sanitation, schools,
hospitals. Hamas & Fatah don't have to touch this money. These people
are tired of being puppets. Ignore Hamas like it doesn't exist. If
the Palestinian average folk are reasonably settled down, they won't
be fodder for the terrorists.
And don't go misusing -stan. I worked with an Iranian Jewish girl
who once asked "How do you call Magyaristan?" She meant Hungary. I
mean, if you don't want to be called Yankistan, or how's this for fun,
call France "Frankistan". Besides, isn't "Yehudi" (Judah) the root of
"Yiddish" hence it would have to be "Yehudistan" if you wanted to do
it right.
You've thrown far too many *FACTS* at them, they can't figure out facts.
- = -
Vasos-Peter John Panagiotopoulos II, Columbia'81+, Bio$trategist
BachMozart ReaganQuayle EvrytanoKastorian
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vjp2/vasos.htm
---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---
[Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Remorse begets zeal] [Windows is for Bimbos]
[Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards]
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| User: "serwad" |
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31 Jan 2006 08:38:24 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43e017a5$0$58125$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
DoD wrote:
The Palestinian people have delivered a resounding vote against peace -
Obvious bigotry. Israel has doen everything to undermine and destroy
any peaceful relationship with the Palestinians. Israel has failed to
keep promises, imposed economic hardship, and put the Palestinians
under oppressive military rule.
Since Israel made sure Fatah failed, Hamas took Fatahs place.
But to the pro-Israeli fanatic nothing can every be the fault of
Israel. It's always the fault of hated Arabs and Palestinians.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
The party is not over until the fat lady sings! All what Israel is doing is
going to haunt them for centuries!
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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31 Jan 2006 09:06:09 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
DoD wrote:
The Palestinian people have delivered a resounding vote against peace -
Obvious bigotry.
Yours? Absolutely!
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| User: "docremington" |
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31 Jan 2006 09:01:50 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
DoD wrote:
The Palestinian people have delivered a resounding vote against peace -
Obvious bigotry.
Why?
Israel has doen everything to undermine and destroy
any peaceful relationship with the Palestinians.
When was it peaceful?
Israel has failed to
keep promises,
What promises?
imposed economic hardship,
What hardship?
and put the Palestinians
under oppressive military rule.
When was Abu Masen ever an IDF officer?
Since Israel made sure Fatah failed,
What might the point of propping it have been?
Hamas took Fatahs place.
One bane for another, isn't it?
But to the pro-Israeli fanatic nothing can every be the fault of
Israel.
Indeed, there was one immediate post-67 fault committed.
It's always the fault of hated Arabs and Palestinians.
They have panache for it.
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01 Feb 2006 12:23:29 AM |
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It's always the fault of hated Arabs and Palestinians.
They have panache for it.
ZioNazis shot dead a 9 year old Palestinian girl, ripping her stomach
wide open,today, just because she staryed from her parents back yard.
Are you expecting Palestinians to thank the Jews for slaughtering this
child?
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| User: "docremington" |
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01 Feb 2006 12:56:10 AM |
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El Paredon wrote:
It's always the fault of hated Arabs and Palestinians.
They have panache for it.
ZioNazis shot dead a 9 year old Palestinian girl, ripping her stomach
wide open,today, just because she staryed from her parents back yard.
Are you expecting Palestinians to thank the Jews for slaughtering this
child?
Looks like a usual palisimian porn. Wonder, who made it up?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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01 Feb 2006 12:16:26 PM |
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docremington <docremington@safe-mail.net> wrote:
El Paredon wrote:
It's always the fault of hated Arabs and Palestinians.
They have panache for it.
ZioNazis shot dead a 9 year old Palestinian girl, ripping her stomach
wide open,today, just because she staryed from her parents back yard.
Are you expecting Palestinians to thank the Jews for slaughtering this
child?
Looks like a usual palisimian porn. Wonder, who made it up?
Cling to your hate, bigot.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "docremington" |
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01 Feb 2006 04:39:12 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
docremington <docremington@safe-mail.net> wrote:
El Paredon wrote:
It's always the fault of hated Arabs and Palestinians.
They have panache for it.
ZioNazis shot dead a 9 year old Palestinian girl, ripping her stomach
wide open,today, just because she staryed from her parents back yard.
Are you expecting Palestinians to thank the Jews for slaughtering this
child?
Looks like a usual palisimian porn. Wonder, who made it up?
Cling to your hate, bigot.
What hate? What bigot? I was merely wondering as to who made that
palisimian porn up.
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| User: "serwad" |
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01 Feb 2006 08:15:21 PM |
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What hate? What bigot? I was merely wondering as to who made that
palisimian porn up.
The story is in Jerusalem Post, idiot 01/31/06
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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01 Feb 2006 04:45:11 PM |
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docremington <docremington@safe-mail.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
docremington <docremington@safe-mail.net> wrote:
El Paredon wrote:
It's always the fault of hated Arabs and Palestinians.
They have panache for it.
ZioNazis shot dead a 9 year old Palestinian girl, ripping her stomach
wide open,today, just because she staryed from her parents back yard.
Are you expecting Palestinians to thank the Jews for slaughtering this
child?
Looks like a usual palisimian porn. Wonder, who made it up?
Cling to your hate, bigot.
What hate?
Yours.
What bigot?
You.
I was merely wondering as to who made that
palisimian porn up.
Palestinian medics: IDF troops kill girl near Gaza Strip border fence
By Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondent, and Reuters
Israel Defense Forces soldiers shot dead a 9-year-old Palestinian
girl on Thursday in the Gaza Strip near the border with Israel,
Palestinian medics said.
The IDF said troops spotted a Palestinian carrying a large bag
near the border fence. Suspecting that it contained explosives,
the troops called on the person to stop and fired warning shots in
the air.
After the person did not heed the calls and moved closer to the
border, the soldiers fired again and shot the person dead, an IDF
statement said.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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01 Feb 2006 05:18:27 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
docremington <docremington@safe-mail.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
docremington <docremington@safe-mail.net> wrote:
El Paredon wrote:
It's always the fault of hated Arabs and Palestinians.
They have panache for it.
ZioNazis shot dead a 9 year old Palestinian girl, ripping her stomach
wide open,today, just because she staryed from her parents back yard.
Are you expecting Palestinians to thank the Jews for slaughtering this
child?
Looks like a usual palisimian porn. Wonder, who made it up?
Cling to your hate, bigot.
What hate?
Yours.
What bigot?
You.
I was merely wondering as to who made that
palisimian porn up.
Palestinian medics: IDF troops kill girl near Gaza Strip border fence
By Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondent, and Reuters
Israel Defense Forces soldiers shot dead a 9-year-old Palestinian
girl on Thursday in the Gaza Strip near the border with Israel,
Palestinian medics said.
The IDF said troops spotted a Palestinian carrying a large bag
near the border fence. Suspecting that it contained explosives,
the troops called on the person to stop and fired warning shots in
the air.
After the person did not heed the calls and moved closer to the
border, the soldiers fired again and shot the person dead, an IDF
statement said.
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I guess she should have heeded the warning shot, something a Pallie
never would have fired.
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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01 Feb 2006 05:52:28 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
docremington <docremington@safe-mail.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
docremington <docremington@safe-mail.net> wrote:
El Paredon wrote:
It's always the fault of hated Arabs and Palestinians.
They have panache for it.
ZioNazis shot dead a 9 year old Palestinian girl, ripping her stomach
wide open,today, just because she staryed from her parents back yard.
Are you expecting Palestinians to thank the Jews for slaughtering this
child?
Looks like a usual palisimian porn. Wonder, who made it up?
Cling to your hate, bigot.
What hate?
Yours.
No.
What bigot?
You.
I'm a caring individual and a staunch advocate of what may prove to be
the largest and noblest humanitarian effort of relocating palisimians
to arabia, or, at least, Gaza. Calling me a bigot is a violation of the
basic principles of decency.
I was merely wondering as to who made that
palisimian porn up.
Palestinian medics: IDF troops kill girl near Gaza Strip border fence
By Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondent, and Reuters
Israel Defense Forces soldiers shot dead a 9-year-old Palestinian
girl on Thursday in the Gaza Strip near the border with Israel,
Palestinian medics said.
The IDF said troops spotted a Palestinian carrying a large bag
near the border fence. Suspecting that it contained explosives,
the troops called on the person to stop and fired warning shots in
the air.
After the person did not heed the calls and moved closer to the
border, the soldiers fired again and shot the person dead, an IDF
statement said.
Now I'm wondering, what was hamas thinking sending her there? It stinks
of Al Hamas affair. And what about that "she strayed from her parents
back yard"?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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01 Feb 2006 08:40:56 PM |
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docremington <docremington@safe-mail.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
docremington <docremington@safe-mail.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
docremington <docremington@safe-mail.net> wrote:
El Paredon wrote:
It's always the fault of hated Arabs and Palestinians.
They have panache for it.
ZioNazis shot dead a 9 year old Palestinian girl, ripping her stomach
wide open,today, just because she staryed from her parents back yard.
Are you expecting Palestinians to thank the Jews for slaughtering this
child?
Looks like a usual palisimian porn. Wonder, who made it up?
Cling to your hate, bigot.
What hate?
Yours.
No.
Why else to you justify persecution of Palestinians?
What bigot?
You.
I'm a caring individual
Unless the person is a Palestinian.
and a staunch advocate of what may prove to be
the largest and noblest humanitarian effort of relocating palisimians
to arabia, or, at least, Gaza.
You favor ethnic cleansing, in other words. Uproot and clear out the
Palestinians from their homes and their lands so that the Israelis can
move in.
Calling me a bigot is a violation of the
basic principles of decency.
Unless you really are a bigot. Given your obvious contempt of
Palestinians I'd say the word is apt.
I was merely wondering as to who made that
palisimian porn up.
Palestinian medics: IDF troops kill girl near Gaza Strip border fence
By Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondent, and Reuters
Israel Defense Forces soldiers shot dead a 9-year-old Palestinian
girl on Thursday in the Gaza Strip near the border with Israel,
Palestinian medics said.
The IDF said troops spotted a Palestinian carrying a large bag
near the border fence. Suspecting that it contained explosives,
the troops called on the person to stop and fired warning shots in
the air.
After the person did not heed the calls and moved closer to the
border, the soldiers fired again and shot the person dead, an IDF
statement said.
Now I'm wondering, what was hamas thinking sending her there?
You think they sent her there because you're a bigot who assumes it's
always the fault of Palestinians.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: Don't Fund Israelistan |
01 Feb 2006 08:16:42 AM |
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docremington wrote:
El Paredon wrote:
It's always the fault of hated Arabs and Palestinians.
They have panache for it.
ZioNazis shot dead a 9 year old Palestinian girl, ripping her stomach
wide open,today, just because she staryed from her parents back yard.
Are you expecting Palestinians to thank the Jews for slaughtering this
child?
Looks like a usual palisimian porn. Wonder, who made it up?
pallies of course.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Don't Fund Israelistan |
31 Jan 2006 11:35:35 PM |
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On 31-Jan-2006, "docremington" <docremington@safe-mail.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
DoD wrote:
The Palestinian people have delivered a resounding vote against peace
-
Obvious bigotry.
Why?
If it's not a confession on his partm he's got no proof - as usual.
Israel has doen everything to undermine and destroy
any peaceful relationship with the Palestinians.
When was it peaceful?
Don't forget that he's lying about Israel, too.
Israel has failed to
keep promises,
What promises?
imposed economic hardship,
What hardship?
and put the Palestinians
under oppressive military rule.
When was Abu Masen ever an IDF officer?
Since Israel made sure Fatah failed,
What might the point of propping it have been?
Oh, please - make him tell how Israel did that - what a liar he is!
Hamas took Fatahs place.
One bane for another, isn't it?
AND VOTED IN BY THE PALESTINIANS THEMSELVES -
which proves what Mimi posted & what Ray immediately lied
about, saying that it was "obvious prejudice."
But to the pro-Israeli fanatic nothing can every be the fault of
Israel.
Indeed, there was one immediate post-67 fault committed.
It's always the fault of hated Arabs and Palestinians.
They have panache for it.
And their followers are blind to that fact, too.
Susan
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Don't Fund Israelistan |
31 Jan 2006 11:08:31 PM |
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docremington <docremington@safe-mail.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
DoD wrote:
The Palestinian people have delivered a resounding vote against peace -
Obvious bigotry.
Why?
Claiming that Palestinians are against peace because they voted for
Hamas is as dishonest as claiming that Israelis voted against peace
when they voted for Likud.
Israel has done everything to undermine and destroy
any peaceful relationship with the Palestinians.
When was it peaceful?
Evasive.
Israel has failed to
keep promises,
What promises?
The promise to stop expanding settlements in the West Bank.
imposed economic hardship,
What hardship?
Palestinians live in crushing poverty under Israeli rule.
and put the Palestinians
under oppressive military rule.
When was Abu Masen ever an IDF officer?
Evasive non sequitur.
Since Israel made sure Fatah failed,
What might the point of propping it have been?
Showing that Israel isn't just bent on grabbing land and creating an
apartheid state.
Hamas took Fatahs place.
One bane for another, isn't it?
Likud and Hamas are two of a kind.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "docremington" |
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| Title: Re: Don't Fund Israelistan |
01 Feb 2006 12:53:17 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
docremington <docremington@safe-mail.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
DoD wrote:
The Palestinian people have delivered a resounding vote against peace -
Obvious bigotry.
Why?
Claiming that Palestinians are against peace because they voted for
Hamas
But they are, who did vote for hamas, israelis?
is as dishonest as claiming that Israelis voted against peace
when they voted for Likud.
Let's entertain this line of thought. What party was ruling before
likud? The labor. What had happened to it? A peace fiasco. Why?
Palisimians didn't give a damn about it and began their dumbarse
intifadas. What happens next? The Likud rules. Cause and effect. So,
what's the problem with that hypothetically hard-right party and a vote
for it?
Israel has done everything to undermine and destroy
any peaceful relationship with the Palestinians.
When was it peaceful?
Evasive.
When was it peaceful?
Israel has failed to
keep promises,
What promises?
The promise to stop expanding settlements in the West Bank.
It is not forbidden to build jewish communities in the disputed
territories.
imposed economic hardship,
What hardship?
Palestinians live in crushing poverty under Israeli rule.
Palisimians lived under Yasser's rule, Abu Masen's rule and now will
have a hamas rule. All their so-called poverty is self-inflicted.
Stealing less, building more may help.
and put the Palestinians
under oppressive military rule.
When was Abu Masen ever an IDF officer?
Evasive non sequitur.
Where is the military rule?
Since Israel made sure Fatah failed,
What might the point of propping it have been?
Showing that Israel isn't just bent on grabbing land
What do palisimians need land for, if they go on proving, that they
deserve neither land, nor a state?
and creating an
apartheid state.
Does it mean, that palisimians want a state and a jewish one too?
Hamas took Fatahs place.
One bane for another, isn't it?
Likud and Hamas are two of a kind.
Hamas, like hezbullah, always finds something to make noises about.
This bad, that bad.
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| User: "DoD" |
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| Title: Re: Don't Fund Israelistan |
01 Feb 2006 01:01:20 AM |
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"docremington" <docremington@safe-mail.net> wrote in message
news:1138776797.519490.137810@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Ray Fischer wrote:
docremington <docremington@safe-mail.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
DoD wrote:
The Palestinian people have delivered a resounding vote against
peace -
Obvious bigotry.
Why?
Claiming that Palestinians are against peace because they voted for
Hamas
But they are, who did vote for hamas, israelis?
is as dishonest as claiming that Israelis voted against peace
when they voted for Likud.
Let's entertain this line of thought. What party was ruling before
likud? The labor. What had happened to it? A peace fiasco. Why?
Palisimians didn't give a damn about it and began their dumbarse
intifadas. What happens next? The Likud rules. Cause and effect. So,
what's the problem with that hypothetically hard-right party and a vote
for it?
Israel has done everything to undermine and destroy
any peaceful relationship with the Palestinians.
When was it peaceful?
Evasive.
When was it peaceful?
Israel has failed to
keep promises,
What promises?
The promise to stop expanding settlements in the West Bank.
It is not forbidden to build jewish communities in the disputed
territories.
imposed economic hardship,
What hardship?
Palestinians live in crushing poverty under Israeli rule.
Palisimians lived under Yasser's rule, Abu Masen's rule and now will
have a hamas rule. All their so-called poverty is self-inflicted.
Stealing less, building more may help.
and put the Palestinians
under oppressive military rule.
When was Abu Masen ever an IDF officer?
Evasive non sequitur.
Where is the military rule?
Since Israel made sure Fatah failed,
What might the point of propping it have been?
Showing that Israel isn't just bent on grabbing land
What do palisimians need land for, if they go on proving, that they
deserve neither land, nor a state?
and creating an
apartheid state.
Does it mean, that palisimians want a state and a jewish one too?
Hamas took Fatahs place.
One bane for another, isn't it?
Likud and Hamas are two of a kind.
Hamas, like hezbullah, always finds something to make noises about.
This bad, that bad.
Nothing logical about Jew haterz... they will always be that....
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Don't Fund Israelistan |
01 Feb 2006 12:15:15 PM |
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docremington <docremington@safe-mail.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
docremington <docremington@safe-mail.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
DoD wrote:
The Palestinian people have delivered a resounding vote against peace -
Obvious bigotry.
Why?
Claiming that Palestinians are against peace because they voted for
Hamas
is as dishonest as claiming that Israelis voted against peace
when they voted for Likud.
Let's entertain this line of thought. What party was ruling before
likud? The labor. What had happened to it? A peace fiasco. Why?
Because Israel never kept its promises, never did anything to imporve
the lives of Palestinians.
Palisimians didn't give a damn about it and began their dumbarse
intifadas.
Because Israel kept destroying homes, taking land, and killing
Palestinians.
Israel has failed to
keep promises,
What promises?
The promise to stop expanding settlements in the West Bank.
It is not forbidden to build jewish communities in the disputed
territories.
It is according to international law and according to Israeli promises
made at the Oslo peace accords.
imposed economic hardship,
What hardship?
Palestinians live in crushing poverty under Israeli rule.
Palisimians lived under Yasser's rule,
That's an obvious lie given that Israel controls the West Bank.
and put the Palestinians
under oppressive military rule.
When was Abu Masen ever an IDF officer?
Evasive non sequitur.
Where is the military rule?
In the West Bank.
Since Israel made sure Fatah failed,
What might the point of propping it have been?
Showing that Israel isn't just bent on grabbing land
What do palisimians need land for, if they go on proving, that they
deserve neither land, nor a state?
And there is an example of the hate and bigotry that is the cause of
killing. You treat them like the Nazis treated the Jews.
Hamas took Fatahs place.
One bane for another, isn't it?
Likud and Hamas are two of a kind.
Hamas, like hezbullah, always finds something to make noises about.
Likud is always looking for an excuse to make people suffer.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "jgarbuz" |
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| Title: Re: Don't Fund Israelistan |
01 Feb 2006 12:36:25 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
docremington <docremington@safe-mail.net> wrote:
....
Israel has failed to
keep promises,
What promises?
The promise to stop expanding settlements in the West Bank.
It is not forbidden to build jewish communities in the disputed
territories.
It is according to international law and according to Israeli promises
made at the Oslo peace accords.<
No such promises were ever made. And given the fact that Arafat never
kept
a single promise in his life, other than to try to destroy the Jews
with every
wile at his disposal, there is no reason to have kept any promises made
to the
terrorist anyway.
imposed economic hardship,
What hardship?
Palestinians live in crushing poverty under Israeli rule.<<
The Arabs of Palestine have been helped more by the JEws than anyone
else in all of history! Most of them physically exist because of
Jewish clinics
and medicine brought into Palestine. The Arabs of Palestine never
exceeded
600,000 at best, mostly living in bare subsistance, until the Jews
began to
return. Thanks to the Jewish immigration from 1882 to 1947, the Arab
population
tripled in that period thanks to clinics and Jewish enterprise. By
contrast, we
know that in Roman times, Jewish population of the province of Judea
exceeded
3 million and my have reached 7 million, or 8% o the Roman Empire. They
were
nearly as numerous as the Germanics or Celts. Under the Arabs,
Palestine
withered on the vine to the level of Somalia, and is doing so again..
Palisimians lived under Yasser's rule,
That's an obvious lie given that Israel controls the West Bank.<
What do you mean by "controls?" If you mean tries not to allow
terrorists to
make their way into Israel to blow up Jews, I suppose you're right. The
fact is
that most Israeli controls over the Palestinian economy was done away
with
years ago. But sure, it controls the borders to make it harder to
smuggle in arms,
if that is what you mean.
and put the Palestinians
under oppressive military rule.
When was Abu Masen ever an IDF officer?
Evasive non sequitur.
Where is the military rule?
In the West Bank.<
You don't know *****. The Israeli military and subsequent civil controls
were removed
when Arafat took over in 1996! The fact that the army had to reoccupy
was due
to the terrorist war that Arafat unleashed in 2001. The West Bank and
Gaza
are like hand grenades with the pin out. Every time ISrael relaxes its
grip, it
blows up in its face! That's because the Arabs are crazy fucked up
people.The same
in Iraq as in the West Bank. More or less the same everywhere. They
are only
controlled by power, whether by a dictator or military control. As
soon as theyg
get some freedom, they go wild, like the looting when the Americans got
to Baghdad.
They are crazier motherfuckers than even the Africans! They are just
wild,
tribal people who love nothing more than jumping up and down and
shooting
guns into the air. Excuse me, that is other than shooting Jews and
beheading
Americans.
Since Israel made sure Fatah failed,
What might the point of propping it have been?
Showing that Israel isn't just bent on grabbing land
What do palisimians need land for, if they go on proving, that they
deserve neither land, nor a state?
And there is an example of the hate and bigotry that is the cause of
killing. You treat them like the Nazis treated the Jews.<
I wish the JEws had treated the Nazis the way the Arabs treat the Jews,
and strapped
bombs to their kids to blow up Germans! The reason why the Nazis got so
far
was because the Jews were so docile and civilized.
Hamas took Fatahs place.
One bane for another, isn't it?
Likud and Hamas are two of a kind.
Hamas, like hezbullah, always finds something to make noises about.
Likud is always looking for an excuse to make people suffer.<
99.9% of the Arab suffering is at the hands of their own "leadership"
or their
Arab "brothers." Has been since the dawn of time.
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| User: "serwad" |
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| Title: Re: Don't Fund Israelistan |
01 Feb 2006 08:10:11 PM |
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know that in Roman times, Jewish population of the province of Judea
exceeded
3 million and my have reached 7 million, or 8% o the Roman Empire.
That is at the time when the population of Upper Egypt was less than 3
million! What a nuthead!
They
were
nearly as numerous as the Germanics or Celts.
How many Jewish Roman legions were there?
Under the Arabs,
Palestine
withered on the vine to the level of Somalia, and is doing so again..
Kikeland will be lucky if it maintains its existence for another two or
three years!
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Don't Fund Israelistan |
01 Feb 2006 12:49:13 PM |
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jgarbuz <jgarbuz@netzero.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
docremington <docremington@safe-mail.net> wrote:
...
Israel has failed to
keep promises,
What promises?
The promise to stop expanding settlements in the West Bank.
It is not forbidden to build jewish communities in the disputed
territories.
It is according to international law and according to Israeli promises
made at the Oslo peace accords.<
No such promises were ever made. And given the fact that Arafat never
kept
a single promise in his life, other than to try to destroy the Jews
And there is the usual hatred and bigotry. The nazis used similar
tactics against the jews.
imposed economic hardship,
What hardship?
Palestinians live in crushing poverty under Israeli rule.<<
The Arabs of Palestine have been helped more by the JEws than anyone
else in all of history!
LOL! Homes destroyed, people killed by the thousands, crushing
poverty. Some "help".
Palisimians lived under Yasser's rule,
That's an obvious lie given that Israel controls the West Bank.<
What do you mean by "controls?"
Look in a dictionary.
If you mean tries not to allow
terrorists to
More of the usual hatred and bigotry.
Notice, for example, that Israel kept Arafat under house arrest for
years before he died, your claim that Arafat ruled is an obvious lie.
and put the Palestinians
under oppressive military rule.
When was Abu Masen ever an IDF officer?
Evasive non sequitur.
Where is the military rule?
In the West Bank.<
You don't know *****. The Israeli military and subsequent civil controls
were removed
when Arafat took over in 1996!
Then explain how Israeli troops STILL occupy the West Bank?
The fact that the army had to reoccupy
Refuting your own lies is remarkably stupid of you.
Since Israel made sure Fatah failed,
What might the point of propping it have been?
Showing that Israel isn't just bent on grabbing land
What do palisimians need land for, if they go on proving, that they
deserve neither land, nor a state?
And there is an example of the hate and bigotry that is the cause of
killing. You treat them like the Nazis treated the Jews.<
I wish the JEws had treated the Nazis the way the Arabs treat the Jews,
and strapped
bombs to their kids to blow up Germans!
So you're a supporter of terrorism.
That explains a lot.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "jgarbuz" |
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01 Feb 2006 02:05:13 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
jgarbuz <jgarbuz@netzero.com> wrote:
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It is according to international law and according to Israeli promises
made at the Oslo peace accords.<
No such promises were ever made. And given the fact that Arafat never
kept
a single promise in his life, other than to try to destroy the Jews
And there is the usual hatred and bigotry. The nazis used similar
tactics against the jews.<
And you use the tactic of cutting off my replies in mid-sentence so
that no
one else can read them.
imposed economic hardship,
What hardship?
Palestinians live in crushing poverty under Israeli rule.<<
The Arabs of Palestine have been helped more by the JEws than anyone
else in all of history!
LOL! Homes destroyed, people killed by the thousands, crushing
poverty. Some "help".<
Note, you again cut off my reply, which wasn't all that long. How
"muslim"
of you!
Palisimians lived under Yasser's rule,
That's an obvious lie given that Israel controls the West Bank.<
What do you mean by "controls?"
Look in a dictionary.
If you mean tries not to allow
terrorists to<
Again, cuts off my reply in mid-sentence.
More of the usual hatred and bigotry.
Notice, for example, that Israel kept Arafat under house arrest for
years before he died, your claim that Arafat ruled is an obvious lie.<
I said that between 1994 when he was permitted back into the
territories by
Israel, to 2001 when he launched the terror blitz, Israel was giving
him back
land and authority, which he grossly abused, robbing his own people,
among
other things. The Israelis came in when he allowed (actually supported)
the AL Aksa, Hamas and other terrorists (which of them aren't?) to
blitz ISrael
with terror attacks. Of course Israel is always going to bring the war
back
to the enemy!
and put the Palestinians
under oppressive military rule.
When was Abu Masen ever an IDF officer?
Evasive non sequitur.
Where is the military rule?
In the West Bank.<
You don't know *****. The Israeli military and subsequent civil controls
were removed
when Arafat took over (much of the West Bank) in 1996! <
Then explain how Israeli troops STILL occupy the West Bank?
The fact that the army had to reoccupy
Refuting your own lies is remarkably stupid of you.<
Again cutting me off in mid-sentence so that my reply can't be read.
Israel did
have to reoccupy the Palestinian towns given to Arafat after he launced
the
terror war into Israel. Just as the US had to occupy Afghanistan when
the Taliban
helped Al Qaeda launch attacks against the US.
Since Israel made sure Fatah failed,<<<
Arafat made sure Fatah failed. But failed at what? Failed at robbing
the Palestinians
of even more money? Not enough?
What might the point of propping it have been?
Showing that Israel isn't just bent on grabbing land<<<
IF ISrael had been only interested in grabbing land, it could have
taken the whole
West Bank in 1949! Or so once stated the first King Abdullah in an
interview, where
he had expressed surprise at the time that the Jews had not done so
after
the Arab resistance had essentially collapsed.
What do palisimians need land for, if they go on proving, that they
deserve neither land, nor a state?
And there is an example of the hate and bigotry that is the cause of
killing. You treat them like the Nazis treated the Jews.<
I wish the JEws had treated the Nazis the way the Arabs treat the Jews,
and strapped
bombs to their kids to blow up Germans!
So you're a supporter of terrorism.
That explains a lot.<
I support towards them whatever the Arabs support towards us!
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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01 Feb 2006 02:22:42 PM |
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jgarbuz <jgarbuz@netzero.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
jgarbuz <jgarbuz@netzero.com> wrote:
It is according to international law and according to Israeli promises
made at the Oslo peace accords.<
No such promises were ever made. And given the fact that Arafat never
kept
a single promise in his life, other than to try to destroy the Jews
And there is the usual hatred and bigotry. The nazis used similar
tactics against the jews.<
And you use the tactic of cutting off my replies in mid-sentence so
that no
one else can read them.
You must be really stupid. YOUR post remains unaltered. If you want
me to copy your words in MY post then write less hatred and bigotry.
imposed economic hardship,
What hardship?
Palestinians live in crushing poverty under Israeli rule.<<
The Arabs of Palestine have been helped more by the JEws than anyone
else in all of history!
LOL! Homes destroyed, people killed by the thousands, crushing
poverty. Some "help".<
Note, you again cut off my reply,
Because you lied.
Palisimians lived under Yasser's rule,
That's an obvious lie given that Israel controls the West Bank.<
What do you mean by "controls?"
Look in a dictionary.
If you mean tries not to allow
terrorists to<
More of the usual hatred and bigotry.
Notice, for example, that Israel kept Arafat under house arrest for
years before he died, your claim that Arafat ruled is an obvious lie.<
I said that between 1994 when he was permitted back into the
territories by
Israel,
"permitted" = Israeli control.
to 2001 when he launched the terror blitz, Israel was giving
him back
land and authority,
"giving him" = Israeli control.
You don't know *****. The Israeli military and subsequent civil controls
were removed
when Arafat took over (much of the West Bank) in 1996! <
Then explain how Israeli troops STILL occupy the West Bank?
No explanation?
The fact that the army had to reoccupy
Refuting your own lies is remarkably stupid of you.<
Again cutting me off in mid-sentence so that my reply can't be read.
If you dont' like it then STOP LYING!
Israel did
have to reoccupy the Palestinian towns given to Arafat
Thus PROVING my claim that Israel has the West Bank under military
occupation.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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