Science > Abortion > Re: Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy)
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Science > Abortion |
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"Ray Fischer" |
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31 Mar 2004 10:25:45 PM |
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Re: Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy) |
Attila <Attila> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 04:18:55 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4dgrf$leq$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
"Chris" <reddd@juno.com> in
That is not a matter of choice for the male involved after sex has
occurred.
Precisely! Yet the male has to pay money to the woman as a result of her
making the choice FOR him. Of course your foundational belief that RIGHTS do
not ride with responsibilities is perfectly in tune with such concept.
I have repeatedly made my point, and your constantly trying to drag in
what I have clearly indicated is not part of my discussion is only
making yourself a bigger moron.
You want everybody to meekly accept your dictates.
Isn't working too well, is it?
Actually I could not care less. I am rather startled at the venomous
response to the simple premise that parents should support their
children. In my world that is a given.
You want to make other people suffer for the sake of your limitless
selfishness.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy) |
01 Apr 2004 07:27:14 AM |
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On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 04:25:45 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4g5k9$fqa$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 04:18:55 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4dgrf$leq$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
"Chris" <reddd@juno.com> in
That is not a matter of choice for the male involved after sex has
occurred.
Precisely! Yet the male has to pay money to the woman as a result of her
making the choice FOR him. Of course your foundational belief that RIGHTS do
not ride with responsibilities is perfectly in tune with such concept.
I have repeatedly made my point, and your constantly trying to drag in
what I have clearly indicated is not part of my discussion is only
making yourself a bigger moron.
You want everybody to meekly accept your dictates.
Isn't working too well, is it?
Actually I could not care less. I am rather startled at the venomous
response to the simple premise that parents should support their
children. In my world that is a given.
You want to make other people suffer for the sake of your limitless
selfishness.
Since those 'suffering people' seem to be in some kind of difficulty
involving whether or not they are parents and I had nothing to do with
their situation I fail to see how I am responsible for their
'suffering'.
Or perhaps you consider everyone who is a parent is suffering, and
anyone who does not give them all the money they need to do their
parenting as responsible for their 'suffering'. Since I have no idea
how the mind of a liberal actually works (if it works at all) I cannot
hazard a guess about this.
.
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| User: "Chris" |
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| Title: Re: Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy) |
01 Apr 2004 03:53:07 PM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 04:25:45 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4g5k9$fqa$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 04:18:55 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4dgrf$leq$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
"Chris" <reddd@juno.com> in
That is not a matter of choice for the male involved after sex has
occurred.
Precisely! Yet the male has to pay money to the woman as a result of
her
making the choice FOR him. Of course your foundational belief that
RIGHTS do
not ride with responsibilities is perfectly in tune with such
concept.
I have repeatedly made my point, and your constantly trying to drag in
what I have clearly indicated is not part of my discussion is only
making yourself a bigger moron.
You want everybody to meekly accept your dictates.
Isn't working too well, is it?
Actually I could not care less. I am rather startled at the venomous
response to the simple premise that parents should support their
children. In my world that is a given.
You want to make other people suffer for the sake of your limitless
selfishness.
Since those 'suffering people' seem to be in some kind of difficulty
involving whether or not they are parents
Correction: their difficulty arises from whether or not they are forced to
pay "child support". Being a parent is irrelevant.
and I had nothing to do with
their situation I fail to see how I am responsible for their
'suffering'.
I don't think the other poster is referring to you being actively involved
in such suffering; rather I think that he is referring to your advocation of
the suffering.
Or perhaps you consider everyone who is a parent is suffering, and
anyone who does not give them all the money they need to do their
parenting as responsible for their 'suffering'. Since I have no idea
how the mind of a liberal actually works (if it works at all) I cannot
hazard a guess about this.
.
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| User: "Moon Shyne" |
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| Title: Re: Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy) |
02 Apr 2004 04:31:13 AM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:0t5o60toq1g1o721ok6eoq90tvt0u03su8@4ax.com...
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 04:25:45 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4g5k9$fqa$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 04:18:55 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4dgrf$leq$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
"Chris" <reddd@juno.com> in
That is not a matter of choice for the male involved after sex has
occurred.
Precisely! Yet the male has to pay money to the woman as a result of her
making the choice FOR him. Of course your foundational belief that RIGHTS
do
not ride with responsibilities is perfectly in tune with such concept.
I have repeatedly made my point, and your constantly trying to drag in
what I have clearly indicated is not part of my discussion is only
making yourself a bigger moron.
You want everybody to meekly accept your dictates.
Isn't working too well, is it?
Actually I could not care less. I am rather startled at the venomous
response to the simple premise that parents should support their
children. In my world that is a given.
You want to make other people suffer for the sake of your limitless
selfishness.
Since those 'suffering people' seem to be in some kind of difficulty
involving whether or not they are parents and I had nothing to do with
their situation I fail to see how I am responsible for their
'suffering'.
Or perhaps you consider everyone who is a parent is suffering, and
anyone who does not give them all the money they need to do their
parenting as responsible for their 'suffering'. Since I have no idea
how the mind of a liberal actually works (if it works at all) I cannot
hazard a guess about this.
Some of us "democratic, bleeding-heart liberals" do not think the way Ray does.
He's been spouting this same stuff for years, and always calls the other person
(pick as many from the list as you want):
stupid
liar
control-freak
anti-choice
selfish
[add which ever ones he's used lately - his replies are too boring to actually
read on a regular basis]
Some of us liberals ARE parents, DO work to support the children and make no
excuses for it, AND expect their other parent to contribute to the support of
the children as well, despite the marriage having been long over.
SOME of us even have the temerity to take our former spouses to court when
necessary to have the courts compel them to take their financial
responsibilities just a wee bit more seriously, if you know what I mean :-)
Some of us liberals aren't too fond of our taxes going up to cover other
people's financial responsibilities from public funds, either.
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| User: "Chris" |
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| Title: Re: Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy) |
03 Apr 2004 03:12:43 AM |
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"Moon Shyne" <moonshyne__@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c4jff1$2k6t7a$1@ID-191726.news.uni-berlin.de...
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:0t5o60toq1g1o721ok6eoq90tvt0u03su8@4ax.com...
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 04:25:45 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4g5k9$fqa$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 04:18:55 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4dgrf$leq$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
"Chris" <reddd@juno.com> in
That is not a matter of choice for the male involved after sex
has
occurred.
Precisely! Yet the male has to pay money to the woman as a result
of her
making the choice FOR him. Of course your foundational belief that
RIGHTS
do
not ride with responsibilities is perfectly in tune with such
concept.
I have repeatedly made my point, and your constantly trying to drag
in
what I have clearly indicated is not part of my discussion is only
making yourself a bigger moron.
You want everybody to meekly accept your dictates.
Isn't working too well, is it?
Actually I could not care less. I am rather startled at the venomous
response to the simple premise that parents should support their
children. In my world that is a given.
You want to make other people suffer for the sake of your limitless
selfishness.
Since those 'suffering people' seem to be in some kind of difficulty
involving whether or not they are parents and I had nothing to do with
their situation I fail to see how I am responsible for their
'suffering'.
Or perhaps you consider everyone who is a parent is suffering, and
anyone who does not give them all the money they need to do their
parenting as responsible for their 'suffering'. Since I have no idea
how the mind of a liberal actually works (if it works at all) I cannot
hazard a guess about this.
Some of us "democratic, bleeding-heart liberals" do not think the way Ray
does.
He's been spouting this same stuff for years, and always calls the other
person
(pick as many from the list as you want):
stupid
liar
control-freak
anti-choice
selfish
[add which ever ones he's used lately - his replies are too boring to
actually
read on a regular basis]
Some of us liberals ARE parents, DO work to support the children and make
no
excuses for it, AND expect their other parent to contribute to the support
of
the children as well, despite the marriage having been long over.
SOME of us even have the temerity to take our former spouses to court when
necessary to have the courts compel them to take their financial
responsibilities just a wee bit more seriously, if you know what I mean
:-)
And what "financial responsibilities" might that be?
Some of us liberals aren't too fond of our taxes going up to cover other
people's financial responsibilities from public funds, either.
.
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| User: "Mel Gamble" |
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| Title: Re: Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy) |
02 Apr 2004 05:39:51 AM |
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Meaning...
Moon Shyne wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:0t5o60toq1g1o721ok6eoq90tvt0u03su8@4ax.com...
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 04:25:45 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4g5k9$fqa$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 04:18:55 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4dgrf$leq$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
"Chris" <reddd@juno.com> in
That is not a matter of choice for the male involved after sex has
occurred.
Precisely! Yet the male has to pay money to the woman as a result of her
making the choice FOR him. Of course your foundational belief that RIGHTS
do
not ride with responsibilities is perfectly in tune with such concept.
I have repeatedly made my point, and your constantly trying to drag in
what I have clearly indicated is not part of my discussion is only
making yourself a bigger moron.
You want everybody to meekly accept your dictates.
Isn't working too well, is it?
Actually I could not care less. I am rather startled at the venomous
response to the simple premise that parents should support their
children. In my world that is a given.
You want to make other people suffer for the sake of your limitless
selfishness.
Since those 'suffering people' seem to be in some kind of difficulty
involving whether or not they are parents and I had nothing to do with
their situation I fail to see how I am responsible for their
'suffering'.
Or perhaps you consider everyone who is a parent is suffering, and
anyone who does not give them all the money they need to do their
parenting as responsible for their 'suffering'. Since I have no idea
how the mind of a liberal actually works (if it works at all) I cannot
hazard a guess about this.
Some of us "democratic, bleeding-heart liberals" do not think the way Ray does.
He's been spouting this same stuff for years, and always calls the other person
(pick as many from the list as you want):
stupid
liar
control-freak
anti-choice
selfish
[add which ever ones he's used lately - his replies are too boring to actually
read on a regular basis]
Some of us liberals ARE parents, DO work to support the children and make no
excuses for it, AND expect their other parent to contribute to the support of
the children as well, despite the marriage having been long over.
SOME of us even have the temerity to take our former spouses to court when
necessary to have the courts compel them to take their financial
responsibilities just a wee bit more seriously, if you know what I mean :-)
Some of us liberals aren't too fond of our taxes going up to cover other
people's financial responsibilities from public funds, either.
....that when STUMPY takes her ex to court, she takes along a bag of cash
to reimburse the rest of us for all the costs associated with her 15
minutes on the stage so that she isn't dipping into those public
funds...SUUURE she does...
.
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| User: "Moon Shyne" |
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| Title: Re: Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy) |
02 Apr 2004 05:33:22 PM |
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"Mel Gamble" <melgamble@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:406AAB7E.E70D82E8@earthlink.net...
Meaning...
Moon Shyne wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:0t5o60toq1g1o721ok6eoq90tvt0u03su8@4ax.com...
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 04:25:45 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4g5k9$fqa$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 04:18:55 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4dgrf$leq$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
"Chris" <reddd@juno.com> in
That is not a matter of choice for the male involved after sex has
occurred.
Precisely! Yet the male has to pay money to the woman as a result of
her
making the choice FOR him. Of course your foundational belief that
RIGHTS
do
not ride with responsibilities is perfectly in tune with such
concept.
I have repeatedly made my point, and your constantly trying to drag in
what I have clearly indicated is not part of my discussion is only
making yourself a bigger moron.
You want everybody to meekly accept your dictates.
Isn't working too well, is it?
Actually I could not care less. I am rather startled at the venomous
response to the simple premise that parents should support their
children. In my world that is a given.
You want to make other people suffer for the sake of your limitless
selfishness.
Since those 'suffering people' seem to be in some kind of difficulty
involving whether or not they are parents and I had nothing to do with
their situation I fail to see how I am responsible for their
'suffering'.
Or perhaps you consider everyone who is a parent is suffering, and
anyone who does not give them all the money they need to do their
parenting as responsible for their 'suffering'. Since I have no idea
how the mind of a liberal actually works (if it works at all) I cannot
hazard a guess about this.
Some of us "democratic, bleeding-heart liberals" do not think the way Ray
does.
He's been spouting this same stuff for years, and always calls the other
person
(pick as many from the list as you want):
stupid
liar
control-freak
anti-choice
selfish
[add which ever ones he's used lately - his replies are too boring to
actually
read on a regular basis]
Some of us liberals ARE parents, DO work to support the children and make no
excuses for it, AND expect their other parent to contribute to the support
of
the children as well, despite the marriage having been long over.
SOME of us even have the temerity to take our former spouses to court when
necessary to have the courts compel them to take their financial
responsibilities just a wee bit more seriously, if you know what I mean :-)
Some of us liberals aren't too fond of our taxes going up to cover other
people's financial responsibilities from public funds, either.
...that when STUMPY takes her ex to court, she takes along a bag of cash
Um, no bag of cash - just the evidence necessary
to reimburse the rest of us for all the costs associated with her 15
minutes on the stage so that she isn't dipping into those public
funds...SUUURE she does...
What costs are associated with my taking my ex to court when necessary, aside
from filing fees, which I pay?
.
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| User: "Mel Gamble" |
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| Title: Re: Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy) |
03 Apr 2004 01:28:24 AM |
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Hmmm, same ol' nasty.... You want us to believe...
Moon Shyne wrote:
"Mel Gamble" <melgamble@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:406AAB7E.E70D82E8@earthlink.net...
Meaning...
Moon Shyne wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:0t5o60toq1g1o721ok6eoq90tvt0u03su8@4ax.com...
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 04:25:45 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4g5k9$fqa$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 04:18:55 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4dgrf$leq$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
"Chris" <reddd@juno.com> in
That is not a matter of choice for the male involved after sex has
occurred.
Precisely! Yet the male has to pay money to the woman as a result of
her
making the choice FOR him. Of course your foundational belief that
RIGHTS
do
not ride with responsibilities is perfectly in tune with such
concept.
I have repeatedly made my point, and your constantly trying to drag in
what I have clearly indicated is not part of my discussion is only
making yourself a bigger moron.
You want everybody to meekly accept your dictates.
Isn't working too well, is it?
Actually I could not care less. I am rather startled at the venomous
response to the simple premise that parents should support their
children. In my world that is a given.
You want to make other people suffer for the sake of your limitless
selfishness.
Since those 'suffering people' seem to be in some kind of difficulty
involving whether or not they are parents and I had nothing to do with
their situation I fail to see how I am responsible for their
'suffering'.
Or perhaps you consider everyone who is a parent is suffering, and
anyone who does not give them all the money they need to do their
parenting as responsible for their 'suffering'. Since I have no idea
how the mind of a liberal actually works (if it works at all) I cannot
hazard a guess about this.
Some of us "democratic, bleeding-heart liberals" do not think the way Ray
does.
He's been spouting this same stuff for years, and always calls the other
person
(pick as many from the list as you want):
stupid
liar
control-freak
anti-choice
selfish
[add which ever ones he's used lately - his replies are too boring to
actually
read on a regular basis]
Some of us liberals ARE parents, DO work to support the children and make no
excuses for it, AND expect their other parent to contribute to the support
of
the children as well, despite the marriage having been long over.
SOME of us even have the temerity to take our former spouses to court when
necessary to have the courts compel them to take their financial
responsibilities just a wee bit more seriously, if you know what I mean :-)
Some of us liberals aren't too fond of our taxes going up to cover other
people's financial responsibilities from public funds, either.
...that when STUMPY takes her ex to court, she takes along a bag of cash
Um, no bag of cash - just the evidence necessary
to reimburse the rest of us for all the costs associated with her 15
minutes on the stage so that she isn't dipping into those public
funds...SUUURE she does...
What costs are associated with my taking my ex to court when necessary, aside
from filing fees, which I pay?
....that your filing fees actually cover the costs of all the public
servants and physical resources that get used to help you harrass the
children's father? "Filing fees" probably don't cover much more than
the wages of the little people who do the front-end work to get you into
the courtroom.
Now that's all the limelight you're getting from me - I won't play your
"it's gotta be all about me" game any longer stump.
Mel Gamble
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| User: "Chris" |
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| Title: Re: Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy) |
03 Apr 2004 03:30:15 AM |
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"Mel Gamble" <melgamble@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:406BC208.5C150E0E@earthlink.net...
Hmmm, same ol' nasty.... You want us to believe...
Moon Shyne wrote:
"Mel Gamble" <melgamble@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:406AAB7E.E70D82E8@earthlink.net...
Meaning...
Moon Shyne wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:0t5o60toq1g1o721ok6eoq90tvt0u03su8@4ax.com...
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 04:25:45 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id
<c4g5k9$fqa$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 04:18:55 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id
<c4dgrf$leq$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
"Chris" <reddd@juno.com> in
That is not a matter of choice for the male involved after
sex has
occurred.
Precisely! Yet the male has to pay money to the woman as a
result of
her
making the choice FOR him. Of course your foundational belief
that
RIGHTS
do
not ride with responsibilities is perfectly in tune with such
concept.
I have repeatedly made my point, and your constantly trying to
drag in
what I have clearly indicated is not part of my discussion is
only
making yourself a bigger moron.
You want everybody to meekly accept your dictates.
Isn't working too well, is it?
Actually I could not care less. I am rather startled at the
venomous
response to the simple premise that parents should support their
children. In my world that is a given.
You want to make other people suffer for the sake of your
limitless
selfishness.
Since those 'suffering people' seem to be in some kind of
difficulty
involving whether or not they are parents and I had nothing to do
with
their situation I fail to see how I am responsible for their
'suffering'.
Or perhaps you consider everyone who is a parent is suffering, and
anyone who does not give them all the money they need to do their
parenting as responsible for their 'suffering'. Since I have no
idea
how the mind of a liberal actually works (if it works at all) I
cannot
hazard a guess about this.
Some of us "democratic, bleeding-heart liberals" do not think the
way Ray
does.
He's been spouting this same stuff for years, and always calls the
other
person
(pick as many from the list as you want):
stupid
liar
control-freak
anti-choice
selfish
[add which ever ones he's used lately - his replies are too boring
to
actually
read on a regular basis]
Some of us liberals ARE parents, DO work to support the children and
make no
excuses for it, AND expect their other parent to contribute to the
support
of
the children as well, despite the marriage having been long over.
SOME of us even have the temerity to take our former spouses to
court when
necessary to have the courts compel them to take their financial
responsibilities just a wee bit more seriously, if you know what I
mean :-)
Some of us liberals aren't too fond of our taxes going up to cover
other
people's financial responsibilities from public funds, either.
...that when STUMPY takes her ex to court, she takes along a bag of
cash
Um, no bag of cash - just the evidence necessary
to reimburse the rest of us for all the costs associated with her 15
minutes on the stage so that she isn't dipping into those public
funds...SUUURE she does...
What costs are associated with my taking my ex to court when necessary,
aside
from filing fees, which I pay?
...that your filing fees actually cover the costs of all the public
servants and physical resources that get used to help you harrass the
children's father? "Filing fees" probably don't cover much more than
the wages of the little people who do the front-end work to get you into
the courtroom.
That's what I thought too.
Now that's all the limelight you're getting from me - I won't play your
"it's gotta be all about me" game any longer stump.
Mel Gamble
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| User: "Moon Shyne" |
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| Title: Re: Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy) |
03 Apr 2004 06:11:30 AM |
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"Mel Gamble" <melgamble@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:406BC208.5C150E0E@earthlink.net...
Hmmm, same ol' nasty.... You want us to believe...
Moon Shyne wrote:
"Mel Gamble" <melgamble@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:406AAB7E.E70D82E8@earthlink.net...
Meaning...
Moon Shyne wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:0t5o60toq1g1o721ok6eoq90tvt0u03su8@4ax.com...
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 04:25:45 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4g5k9$fqa$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 04:18:55 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id
<c4dgrf$leq$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
"Chris" <reddd@juno.com> in
That is not a matter of choice for the male involved after sex
has
occurred.
Precisely! Yet the male has to pay money to the woman as a result
of
her
making the choice FOR him. Of course your foundational belief
that
RIGHTS
do
not ride with responsibilities is perfectly in tune with such
concept.
I have repeatedly made my point, and your constantly trying to
drag in
what I have clearly indicated is not part of my discussion is only
making yourself a bigger moron.
You want everybody to meekly accept your dictates.
Isn't working too well, is it?
Actually I could not care less. I am rather startled at the
venomous
response to the simple premise that parents should support their
children. In my world that is a given.
You want to make other people suffer for the sake of your limitless
selfishness.
Since those 'suffering people' seem to be in some kind of difficulty
involving whether or not they are parents and I had nothing to do with
their situation I fail to see how I am responsible for their
'suffering'.
Or perhaps you consider everyone who is a parent is suffering, and
anyone who does not give them all the money they need to do their
parenting as responsible for their 'suffering'. Since I have no idea
how the mind of a liberal actually works (if it works at all) I cannot
hazard a guess about this.
Some of us "democratic, bleeding-heart liberals" do not think the way
Ray
does.
He's been spouting this same stuff for years, and always calls the other
person
(pick as many from the list as you want):
stupid
liar
control-freak
anti-choice
selfish
[add which ever ones he's used lately - his replies are too boring to
actually
read on a regular basis]
Some of us liberals ARE parents, DO work to support the children and
make no
excuses for it, AND expect their other parent to contribute to the
support
of
the children as well, despite the marriage having been long over.
SOME of us even have the temerity to take our former spouses to court
when
necessary to have the courts compel them to take their financial
responsibilities just a wee bit more seriously, if you know what I mean
:-)
Some of us liberals aren't too fond of our taxes going up to cover other
people's financial responsibilities from public funds, either.
...that when STUMPY takes her ex to court, she takes along a bag of cash
Um, no bag of cash - just the evidence necessary
to reimburse the rest of us for all the costs associated with her 15
minutes on the stage so that she isn't dipping into those public
funds...SUUURE she does...
What costs are associated with my taking my ex to court when necessary,
aside
from filing fees, which I pay?
...that your filing fees actually cover the costs of all the public
servants and physical resources that get used to help you harrass the
children's father? "Filing fees" probably don't cover much more than
the wages of the little people who do the front-end work to get you into
the courtroom.
Now that's all the limelight you're getting from me - I won't play your
"it's gotta be all about me" game any longer stump.
I give a rat's ***** what you believe, and I don't think you truly HAVE any
beliefs - all you want is any opportunity to harrass any custodial mother.
Mel Gamble
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02 Apr 2004 05:40:34 AM |
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Meaning...
Moon Shyne wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:0t5o60toq1g1o721ok6eoq90tvt0u03su8@4ax.com...
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 04:25:45 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4g5k9$fqa$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 04:18:55 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4dgrf$leq$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
"Chris" <reddd@juno.com> in
That is not a matter of choice for the male involved after sex has
occurred.
Precisely! Yet the male has to pay money to the woman as a result of her
making the choice FOR him. Of course your foundational belief that RIGHTS
do
not ride with responsibilities is perfectly in tune with such concept.
I have repeatedly made my point, and your constantly trying to drag in
what I have clearly indicated is not part of my discussion is only
making yourself a bigger moron.
You want everybody to meekly accept your dictates.
Isn't working too well, is it?
Actually I could not care less. I am rather startled at the venomous
response to the simple premise that parents should support their
children. In my world that is a given.
You want to make other people suffer for the sake of your limitless
selfishness.
Since those 'suffering people' seem to be in some kind of difficulty
involving whether or not they are parents and I had nothing to do with
their situation I fail to see how I am responsible for their
'suffering'.
Or perhaps you consider everyone who is a parent is suffering, and
anyone who does not give them all the money they need to do their
parenting as responsible for their 'suffering'. Since I have no idea
how the mind of a liberal actually works (if it works at all) I cannot
hazard a guess about this.
Some of us "democratic, bleeding-heart liberals" do not think the way Ray does.
He's been spouting this same stuff for years, and always calls the other person
(pick as many from the list as you want):
stupid
liar
control-freak
anti-choice
selfish
[add which ever ones he's used lately - his replies are too boring to actually
read on a regular basis]
Some of us liberals ARE parents, DO work to support the children and make no
excuses for it, AND expect their other parent to contribute to the support of
the children as well, despite the marriage having been long over.
SOME of us even have the temerity to take our former spouses to court when
necessary to have the courts compel them to take their financial
responsibilities just a wee bit more seriously, if you know what I mean :-)
Some of us liberals aren't too fond of our taxes going up to cover other
people's financial responsibilities from public funds, either.
....that when STUMPY takes her ex to court, she takes along a bag of cash
to reimburse the rest of us for all the costs associated with her 15
minutes on the stage so that she isn't dipping into those public
funds...SUUURE she does...
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02 Apr 2004 05:42:35 AM |
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Meaning...
Moon Shyne wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:0t5o60toq1g1o721ok6eoq90tvt0u03su8@4ax.com...
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 04:25:45 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4g5k9$fqa$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 04:18:55 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4dgrf$leq$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
"Chris" <reddd@juno.com> in
That is not a matter of choice for the male involved after sex has
occurred.
Precisely! Yet the male has to pay money to the woman as a result of her
making the choice FOR him. Of course your foundational belief that RIGHTS
do
not ride with responsibilities is perfectly in tune with such concept.
I have repeatedly made my point, and your constantly trying to drag in
what I have clearly indicated is not part of my discussion is only
making yourself a bigger moron.
You want everybody to meekly accept your dictates.
Isn't working too well, is it?
Actually I could not care less. I am rather startled at the venomous
response to the simple premise that parents should support their
children. In my world that is a given.
You want to make other people suffer for the sake of your limitless
selfishness.
Since those 'suffering people' seem to be in some kind of difficulty
involving whether or not they are parents and I had nothing to do with
their situation I fail to see how I am responsible for their
'suffering'.
Or perhaps you consider everyone who is a parent is suffering, and
anyone who does not give them all the money they need to do their
parenting as responsible for their 'suffering'. Since I have no idea
how the mind of a liberal actually works (if it works at all) I cannot
hazard a guess about this.
Some of us "democratic, bleeding-heart liberals" do not think the way Ray does.
He's been spouting this same stuff for years, and always calls the other person
(pick as many from the list as you want):
stupid
liar
control-freak
anti-choice
selfish
[add which ever ones he's used lately - his replies are too boring to actually
read on a regular basis]
Some of us liberals ARE parents, DO work to support the children and make no
excuses for it, AND expect their other parent to contribute to the support of
the children as well, despite the marriage having been long over.
SOME of us even have the temerity to take our former spouses to court when
necessary to have the courts compel them to take their financial
responsibilities just a wee bit more seriously, if you know what I mean :-)
Some of us liberals aren't too fond of our taxes going up to cover other
people's financial responsibilities from public funds, either.
....that when STUMPY takes her ex to court, she takes along a bag of cash
to reimburse the rest of us for all the costs associated with her 15
minutes on the stage so that she isn't dipping into those public
funds...SUUURE she does...
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02 Apr 2004 11:07:24 AM |
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Moon Shyne <moonshyne__@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer)
You want to make other people suffer for the sake of your limitless
selfishness.
Since those 'suffering people' seem to be in some kind of difficulty
involving whether or not they are parents and I had nothing to do with
their situation I fail to see how I am responsible for their
'suffering'.
Or perhaps you consider everyone who is a parent is suffering, and
anyone who does not give them all the money they need to do their
parenting as responsible for their 'suffering'. Since I have no idea
how the mind of a liberal actually works (if it works at all) I cannot
hazard a guess about this.
Some of us "democratic, bleeding-heart liberals" do not think the way Ray does.
"Us"? You're responding to someone who would rather see children
starve than spend even a cent of his money on someone else.
He's been spouting this same stuff for years, and always calls the other person
(pick as many from the list as you want):
stupid
liar
control-freak
anti-choice
selfish
[add which ever ones he's used lately - his replies are too boring to actually
read on a regular basis]
The truth stings, doesn't it?
Some of us liberals ARE parents, DO work to support the children and make no
excuses for it, AND expect their other parent to contribute to the support of
the children as well, despite the marriage having been long over.
LOL! YOu EXPECT other people to give you money!
ROFL!
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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02 Apr 2004 07:09:05 AM |
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On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 04:31:13 -0600, "Moon Shyne"
<moonshyne__@hotmail.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<c4jff1$2k6t7a$1@ID-191726.news.uni-berlin.de> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:0t5o60toq1g1o721ok6eoq90tvt0u03su8@4ax.com...
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 04:25:45 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4g5k9$fqa$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 04:18:55 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4dgrf$leq$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
"Chris" <reddd@juno.com> in
That is not a matter of choice for the male involved after sex has
occurred.
Precisely! Yet the male has to pay money to the woman as a result of her
making the choice FOR him. Of course your foundational belief that RIGHTS
do
not ride with responsibilities is perfectly in tune with such concept.
I have repeatedly made my point, and your constantly trying to drag in
what I have clearly indicated is not part of my discussion is only
making yourself a bigger moron.
You want everybody to meekly accept your dictates.
Isn't working too well, is it?
Actually I could not care less. I am rather startled at the venomous
response to the simple premise that parents should support their
children. In my world that is a given.
You want to make other people suffer for the sake of your limitless
selfishness.
Since those 'suffering people' seem to be in some kind of difficulty
involving whether or not they are parents and I had nothing to do with
their situation I fail to see how I am responsible for their
'suffering'.
Or perhaps you consider everyone who is a parent is suffering, and
anyone who does not give them all the money they need to do their
parenting as responsible for their 'suffering'. Since I have no idea
how the mind of a liberal actually works (if it works at all) I cannot
hazard a guess about this.
Some of us "democratic, bleeding-heart liberals" do not think the way Ray does.
He's been spouting this same stuff for years, and always calls the other person
(pick as many from the list as you want):
stupid
liar
control-freak
anti-choice
selfish
[add which ever ones he's used lately - his replies are too boring to actually
read on a regular basis]
Some of us liberals ARE parents, DO work to support the children and make no
excuses for it, AND expect their other parent to contribute to the support of
the children as well, despite the marriage having been long over.
SOME of us even have the temerity to take our former spouses to court when
necessary to have the courts compel them to take their financial
responsibilities just a wee bit more seriously, if you know what I mean :-)
Some of us liberals aren't too fond of our taxes going up to cover other
people's financial responsibilities from public funds, either.
I realize this, but having a conversation with Ray means speaking of a
two dimensional world - no depth at all.
Nothing is perfect, and I freely admit I have some liberal viewpoints,
and while I may feel one way about something in general I may feel
differently about some of the details.
I reserve the right to be inconsistent and to change my position on
anything at anytime.
I still oppose big government, and a government that tries to protect
everyone from everything and provide everyone with everything. I feel
I have the right to determine how my money is spent and the government
has no right to take it from me in order to benefit some 'common
good'.
In other words, I oppose the agenda of the liberals and the Democratic
Party which goes back to FDR.
I am amused by the fact that when I was a child the conservatives were
Democrats. This was before the RRR hijacked the Republicans and the
liberal wing took over the Democrats.
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03 Apr 2004 03:29:58 AM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 04:31:13 -0600, "Moon Shyne"
<moonshyne__@hotmail.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<c4jff1$2k6t7a$1@ID-191726.news.uni-berlin.de> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:0t5o60toq1g1o721ok6eoq90tvt0u03su8@4ax.com...
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 04:25:45 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4g5k9$fqa$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 04:18:55 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id
<c4dgrf$leq$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
"Chris" <reddd@juno.com> in
That is not a matter of choice for the male involved after sex
has
occurred.
Precisely! Yet the male has to pay money to the woman as a result
of her
making the choice FOR him. Of course your foundational belief that
RIGHTS
do
not ride with responsibilities is perfectly in tune with such
concept.
I have repeatedly made my point, and your constantly trying to drag
in
what I have clearly indicated is not part of my discussion is only
making yourself a bigger moron.
You want everybody to meekly accept your dictates.
Isn't working too well, is it?
Actually I could not care less. I am rather startled at the venomous
response to the simple premise that parents should support their
children. In my world that is a given.
You want to make other people suffer for the sake of your limitless
selfishness.
Since those 'suffering people' seem to be in some kind of difficulty
involving whether or not they are parents and I had nothing to do with
their situation I fail to see how I am responsible for their
'suffering'.
Or perhaps you consider everyone who is a parent is suffering, and
anyone who does not give them all the money they need to do their
parenting as responsible for their 'suffering'. Since I have no idea
how the mind of a liberal actually works (if it works at all) I cannot
hazard a guess about this.
Some of us "democratic, bleeding-heart liberals" do not think the way Ray
does.
He's been spouting this same stuff for years, and always calls the other
person
(pick as many from the list as you want):
stupid
liar
control-freak
anti-choice
selfish
[add which ever ones he's used lately - his replies are too boring to
actually
read on a regular basis]
Some of us liberals ARE parents, DO work to support the children and make
no
excuses for it, AND expect their other parent to contribute to the
support of
the children as well, despite the marriage having been long over.
SOME of us even have the temerity to take our former spouses to court
when
necessary to have the courts compel them to take their financial
responsibilities just a wee bit more seriously, if you know what I mean
:-)
Some of us liberals aren't too fond of our taxes going up to cover other
people's financial responsibilities from public funds, either.
I realize this, but having a conversation with Ray means speaking of a
two dimensional world - no depth at all.
Nothing is perfect, and I freely admit I have some liberal viewpoints,
and while I may feel one way about something in general I may feel
differently about some of the details.
I reserve the right to be inconsistent and to change my position on
anything at anytime.
Spoken like a true politician.
I still oppose big government, and a government that tries to protect
everyone from everything and provide everyone with everything. I feel
I have the right to determine how my money is spent and the government
has no right to take it from me in order to benefit some 'common
good'.
In other words, I oppose the agenda of the liberals and the Democratic
Party which goes back to FDR.
I am amused by the fact that when I was a child the conservatives were
Democrats. This was before the RRR hijacked the Republicans and the
liberal wing took over the Democrats.
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02 Apr 2004 11:09:18 AM |
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Attila <Attila> wrote:
On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 04:31:13 -0600, "Moon Shyne"
Some of us liberals aren't too fond of our taxes going up to cover other
people's financial responsibilities from public funds, either.
I realize this, but having a conversation with Ray means speaking of a
two dimensional world - no depth at all.
Unlike you who runs away, insisting that you don't want to discuss the
justification for your ideology.
Nothing is perfect, and I freely admit I have some liberal viewpoints,
No *****? Like your demand that money be taking from one person and
given to another?
and while I may feel one way about something in general I may feel
differently about some of the details.
I reserve the right to be inconsistent and to change my position on
anything at anytime.
Anythiong that benefits you is just fine.
I still oppose big government,
Which is why you insist that the government be used to take money from
one class of people in order to benefit another.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| Title: Re: Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy) |
02 Apr 2004 06:16:25 PM |
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On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 17:09:18 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4k6nt$sfo$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 04:31:13 -0600, "Moon Shyne"
Some of us liberals aren't too fond of our taxes going up to cover other
people's financial responsibilities from public funds, either.
I realize this, but having a conversation with Ray means speaking of a
two dimensional world - no depth at all.
Unlike you who runs away, insisting that you don't want to discuss the
justification for your ideology.
It isn't an ideology, and I am free to discuss (or not discuss)
whatever I like.
Nothing is perfect, and I freely admit I have some liberal viewpoints,
No *****? Like your demand that money be taking from one person and
given to another?
and while I may feel one way about something in general I may feel
differently about some of the details.
I reserve the right to be inconsistent and to change my position on
anything at anytime.
Anythiong that benefits you is just fine.
I can't argue with that.
I still oppose big government,
Which is why you insist that the government be used to take money from
one class of people in order to benefit another.
Covered exhaustively.
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| User: "Chris" |
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| Title: Re: Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy) |
03 Apr 2004 03:29:45 AM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:jf0s60hng6eh4u62lqule3jaed629h5c0d@4ax.com...
On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 17:09:18 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4k6nt$sfo$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 04:31:13 -0600, "Moon Shyne"
Some of us liberals aren't too fond of our taxes going up to cover
other
people's financial responsibilities from public funds, either.
I realize this, but having a conversation with Ray means speaking of a
two dimensional world - no depth at all.
Unlike you who runs away, insisting that you don't want to discuss the
justification for your ideology.
It isn't an ideology, and I am free to discuss (or not discuss)
whatever I like.
Anything EXCEPT the true premises that bring you to your conclusion.
Nothing is perfect, and I freely admit I have some liberal viewpoints,
No *****? Like your demand that money be taking from one person and
given to another?
and while I may feel one way about something in general I may feel
differently about some of the details.
I reserve the right to be inconsistent and to change my position on
anything at anytime.
Anythiong that benefits you is just fine.
I can't argue with that.
I still oppose big government,
Which is why you insist that the government be used to take money from
one class of people in order to benefit another.
Covered exhaustively.
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| Title: Re: Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy) |
02 Apr 2004 09:13:21 PM |
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Attila <Attila> wrote:
On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 17:09:18 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4k6nt$sfo$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 04:31:13 -0600, "Moon Shyne"
Some of us liberals aren't too fond of our taxes going up to cover other
people's financial responsibilities from public funds, either.
I realize this, but having a conversation with Ray means speaking of a
two dimensional world - no depth at all.
Unlike you who runs away, insisting that you don't want to discuss the
justification for your ideology.
It isn't an ideology,
Of course it is.
and I am free to discuss (or not discuss)
whatever I like.
"No depth at all".
Like most right-wing extremists you blame everybody but yourself.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| Title: Re: Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy) |
01 Apr 2004 10:44:28 PM |
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Attila <Attila> wrote:
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 04:25:45 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4g5k9$fqa$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 04:18:55 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4dgrf$leq$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
"Chris" <reddd@juno.com> in
That is not a matter of choice for the male involved after sex has
occurred.
Precisely! Yet the male has to pay money to the woman as a result of her
making the choice FOR him. Of course your foundational belief that RIGHTS do
not ride with responsibilities is perfectly in tune with such concept.
I have repeatedly made my point, and your constantly trying to drag in
what I have clearly indicated is not part of my discussion is only
making yourself a bigger moron.
You want everybody to meekly accept your dictates.
Isn't working too well, is it?
Actually I could not care less. I am rather startled at the venomous
response to the simple premise that parents should support their
children. In my world that is a given.
You want to make other people suffer for the sake of your limitless
selfishness.
Since those 'suffering people' seem to be in some kind of difficulty
involving whether or not they are parents and I had nothing to do with
their situation I fail to see how I am responsible for their
'suffering'.
You demand their suffering.
Or perhaps you consider everyone who is a parent is suffering,
Perhaps you're just a greedy control freak who thinks he has some
business telling people what their responsibilities must be.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy) |
02 Apr 2004 07:04:56 AM |
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On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 04:44:28 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4ir3c$jbn$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
You want to make other people suffer for the sake of your limitless
selfishness.
Since those 'suffering people' seem to be in some kind of difficulty
involving whether or not they are parents and I had nothing to do with
their situation I fail to see how I am responsible for their
'suffering'.
You demand their suffering.
I really don;t care.
Or perhaps you consider everyone who is a parent is suffering,
Perhaps you're just a greedy control freak who thinks he has some
business telling people what their responsibilities must be.
No, I simply watch for opportunities to eliminate public spending.
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| Title: Re: Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy) |
03 Apr 2004 03:23:19 AM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:lvoq60hm4ip8il9jdvlqdip31gqc6f4hha@4ax.com...
On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 04:44:28 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4ir3c$jbn$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
You want to make other people suffer for the sake of your limitless
selfishness.
Since those 'suffering people' seem to be in some kind of difficulty
involving whether or not they are parents and I had nothing to do with
their situation I fail to see how I am responsible for their
'suffering'.
You demand their suffering.
I really don;t care.
Or perhaps you consider everyone who is a parent is suffering,
Perhaps you're just a greedy control freak who thinks he has some
business telling people what their responsibilities must be.
No, I simply watch for opportunities to eliminate public spending.
GREAT! Then eliminate roads, the military, AND "family" kourt.
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| Title: Re: Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy) |
03 Apr 2004 07:09:59 AM |
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On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 01:23:19 -0800, "Chris" <reddd@juno.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id <iqvbc.37867$wl1.23271@fed1read06> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 04:44:28 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4ir3c$jbn$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
You want to make other people suffer for the sake of your limitless
selfishness.
Since those 'suffering people' seem to be in some kind of difficulty
involving whether or not they are parents and I had nothing to do with
their situation I fail to see how I am responsible for their
'suffering'.
You demand their suffering.
I really don;t care.
Or perhaps you consider everyone who is a parent is suffering,
Perhaps you're just a greedy control freak who thinks he has some
business telling people what their responsibilities must be.
No, I simply watch for opportunities to eliminate public spending.
GREAT! Then eliminate roads, the military, AND "family" kourt.
If there were viable alternatives I would. Some things must be paid
for by the government, the military being one of the most important.
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| User: "Chris" |
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03 Apr 2004 05:07:29 PM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 01:23:19 -0800, "Chris" <reddd@juno.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id <iqvbc.37867$wl1.23271@fed1read06> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:lvoq60hm4ip8il9jdvlqdip31gqc6f4hha@4ax.com...
On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 04:44:28 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4ir3c$jbn$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
You want to make other people suffer for the sake of your limitless
selfishness.
Since those 'suffering people' seem to be in some kind of difficulty
involving whether or not they are parents and I had nothing to do
with
their situation I fail to see how I am responsible for their
'suffering'.
You demand their suffering.
I really don;t care.
Or perhaps you consider everyone who is a parent is suffering,
Perhaps you're just a greedy control freak who thinks he has some
business telling people what their responsibilities must be.
No, I simply watch for opportunities to eliminate public spending.
GREAT! Then eliminate roads, the military, AND "family" kourt.
If there were viable alternatives I would.
I see. You simply watch for opportunities to eliminate SELECT public
spending.
Some things must be paid
for by the government, the military being one of the most important.
In YOUR opinion.
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy) |
03 Apr 2004 08:39:47 PM |
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On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 15:07:29 -0800, "Chris" <reddd@juno.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id <9vHbc.38573$wl1.17881@fed1read06> wrote:
If there were viable alternatives I would.
I see. You simply watch for opportunities to eliminate SELECT public
spending.
And I select as much as possible.
Some things must be paid
for by the government, the military being one of the most important.
In YOUR opinion.
Yes.
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| User: "Chris" |
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| Title: Re: Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy) |
03 Apr 2004 11:32:29 PM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 15:07:29 -0800, "Chris" <reddd@juno.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id <9vHbc.38573$wl1.17881@fed1read06> wrote:
If there were viable alternatives I would.
I see. You simply watch for opportunities to eliminate SELECT public
spending.
And I select as much as possible.
Irrelevant.
Some things must be paid
for by the government, the military being one of the most important.
In YOUR opinion.
Yes.
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| User: "Tina" |
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| Title: Re: Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy) |
04 Apr 2004 06:35:01 AM |
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"Chris" <reddd@juno.com> wrote in message news:<b8Nbc.39464$wl1.20405@fed1read06>...
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 15:07:29 -0800, "Chris" <reddd@juno.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id <9vHbc.38573$wl1.17881@fed1read06> wrote:
If there were viable alternatives I would.
I see. You simply watch for opportunities to eliminate SELECT public
spending.
And I select as much as possible.
Irrelevant.
Some things must be paid
for by the government, the military being one of the most important.
In YOUR opinion.
Yes.
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| Title: Re: Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy) |
02 Apr 2004 11:05:16 AM |
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Attila <Attila> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer)
You want to make other people suffer for the sake of your limitless
selfishness.
Since those 'suffering people' seem to be in some kind of difficulty
involving whether or not they are parents and I had nothing to do with
their situation I fail to see how I am responsible for their
'suffering'.
You demand their suffering.
I really don;t care.
Which is why you keep insisting that other people do what you say.
Or perhaps you consider everyone who is a parent is suffering,
Perhaps you're just a greedy control freak who thinks he has some
business telling people what their responsibilities must be.
No, I simply watch for opportunities to eliminate public spending.
Since you are so fanatically opposed to public spending, why don't you
move where they don't collect any taxes? Somalia, for example?
Or ar eyou one of those right-wing thieves who wants to enjoy the
benefits of this society without paying for them?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy) |
02 Apr 2004 06:14:19 PM |
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On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 17:05:16 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4k6gc$s0m$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
(Ray Fischer)
You want to make other people suffer for the sake of your limitless
selfishness.
Since those 'suffering people' seem to be in some kind of difficulty
involving whether or not they are parents and I had nothing to do with
their situation I fail to see how I am responsible for their
'suffering'.
You demand their suffering.
I really don;t care.
Which is why you keep insisting that other people do what you say.
No, I insist people follow a procedure that prevents the necessity of
using public money.
Or perhaps you consider everyone who is a parent is suffering,
Perhaps you're just a greedy control freak who thinks he has some
business telling people what their responsibilities must be.
No, I simply watch for opportunities to eliminate public spending.
Since you are so fanatically opposed to public spending, why don't you
move where they don't collect any taxes? Somalia, for example?
No such place exists, and it is an American tradition to stay and
change the conditions that are not liked.
It is not possible to eliminate public expenditures but it is possible
to severely reduce them.
Or ar eyou one of those right-wing thieves who wants to enjoy the
benefits of this society without paying for them?
Not as far as I am concerned. Nor am I one of those left wing
bleeding heart liberals who is certain the government can spend my
money more wisely and efficiently that I can since I can't be trusted
to spend for the general good but only for my selfish and personal
desires.
Which is exactly what I do.
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| User: "Chris" |
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| Title: Re: Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy) |
03 Apr 2004 03:28:52 AM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 17:05:16 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4k6gc$s0m$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
(Ray Fischer)
You want to make other people suffer for the sake of your limitless
selfishness.
Since those 'suffering people' seem to be in some kind of difficulty
involving whether or not they are parents and I had nothing to do with
their situation I fail to see how I am responsible for their
'suffering'.
You demand their suffering.
I really don;t care.
Which is why you keep insisting that other people do what you say.
No, I insist people follow a procedure that prevents the necessity of
using public money.
"Necessity" is a matter of opinion; thus making your claim irrelevant.
Or perhaps you consider everyone who is a parent is suffering,
Perhaps you're just a gree | | | | | | |
