"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:tgcl609a8vpjtrah0o2d897dslliil64hs@4ax.com...
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 04:17:57 GMT,
(Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <c4dgpk$l8m$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
(Ray Fischer)
You
know exactly what I am saying
Yup. You expect people to obey your dictates just because you
think
you have some right to steal their money and spend how you see
fit.
I believe that is your liberal agenda.
No, you lying *****. YOU are the one demanding the right to
take
other people's money.
I expect other people to pay their bills
Where YOU assign what they owe.
That can be decided by others.
Your argument is and has been that you should get to assign other
people's liabilities.
No it has not.
Of course it has. You say men must pay.
No I did not. I always speak of custodial and non-custodial parents.
Heh. Which is the man usually?
I agree it is usually the man, but I do not want to get into the many
different reasons it is usually the man or the many exceptions and
reasons for the exceptions beyond the basic situation which I have
outlined.
Of course, because it discredits your position.
That is a matter for the courts to decide, and whether the court
system is fir or not is an entirely different discussion.
Why? Becaus eyou say they
are "responsible".
Generally parents are responsible for their children.
"The law is the law and may not be questioned".
Only in two places - court and the legislature.
When pressed, you say you don't want to discuss
why they should be "responsible". We're supposed to just accept your
decree.
No decree. Someone must be responsible and in our society it is the
parents.
Looks like a decree.
I am sure it does to you.
A child exists.
Non sequitur.
This requires participation of a male and a female.
Liar.
Reference please.
Sure. A woman does not need the participation of any man in order to
create a child. She needs some viable sperm. Nothing more. The man
that created the sperm need not be involved and may even have been
dead for years.
Yet a man must have participated to some degree for that sperm to
exist. It did not come from thin air - it had to originate with a man
somehow at sometime.
Just as the manufacturer of gunpowder MUST have participated to some degree
for the murder to exist; thus, the manufacturer is responsible for the
crime.
You are in effect insisting that a woman stranded alone on an island
Liar.
I see you trimmed my comment. It really doesn't matter.
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