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Topic: Science > Abortion
User: "carl jones"
Date: 06 Feb 2005 07:34:11 PM
Object: Re: Fetal perception in utero
"carl jones" <carljones@usadatanet.net> wrote in message news:...

She didn't have to be in a trance to begin with, but she went right in, to
be there at the time of her birth. Her head turned to indicate the way her
back was in relation to her mother. An arm came out when I asked, "Which

arm

is delivering first?" (This is a physiological memory that was imprinted

by

the adrenal hormones that were present, added to a lot because she was

born

in Berlin in 1943 when there were a lot of stimulating things happening -
like bombs arriving.)

She said, "My mother is so happy she almost screams with pleasure to see
this daughter of hers, this beautiful child."

Dr. Cheek said, "Well, that sounds pretty good. How does the child feel?"

She shrugged her shoulders and said, "Na-ah", as though it were nothing.

To Dr. Cheek, that meant there must have been something that had gone on
earlier that had set the stage for her to reject her mother's joyful
acceptance of her. So I asked her to go back to the time when her mother
learned she was pregnant. (Dr Cheek has found that this is an important
moment: women are happy, or they're scared, or they're mad. This emotion
seems to make the memory lasting.) She signaled that she'd done so.

Dr. Cheek said, "How does your mother feel?"

She said, "Scared", and then there was a pause. I was trying to think of
what else to say, and in the pause, she said, "She doesn't want me." That
was her interpretation of her mother's being scared.

Being scared has to do with survival. This is a right hemisphere type of
impression. It's the psychic, spiritual side. It's very important for
animals to know where the danger is, and to remember how they got out of
danger before. Tremendously important. So "scared" meant, "She doesn't

want

me".

"Is there another part of your mother that does want a little baby?"

Dr. Cheek knew it would be "Yes", because I've found, as a
gynecologist/obstetrician who has been concerned with fertility for 45
years, that women do not get pregnant unless there's a biological

readiness

for pregnancy. Now that's at a physiological level, way down deep. At a
higher level, one which has to do with the environment, they might not be
ready for pregnancy. And for years, Dr. Cheek has enthusiastically

supported

the right to terminate an unwanted pregnancy, because, all during

pregnancy,

the little baby inside is picking up the feelings of its mother as to
whether she really is accepting of what she's carrying, or rejecting it.
It's very hard - it's almost impossible - to change a baby's attitude
towards women if it has felt unwanted all during pregnancy.


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User: "junegill"

Title: Re: Fetal perception in utero 06 Feb 2005 10:36:06 PM
"carl jones" <carljones@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
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"carl jones" <carljones@usadatanet.net> wrote in message news:...

She didn't have to be in a trance to begin with, but she went right in,

to

be there at the time of her birth. Her head turned to indicate the way

her

back was in relation to her mother. An arm came out when I asked, "Which

arm

is delivering first?"

An arm came out? Before the shoulders? That would make the delivery very
complicated because the circumference of the shoulders with an arm raised is
quite a lot bigger than the circumference of the shoulders with the arms
down. Had the doctor seen a hand appearing s/he would have attempted to
push it back before the arm emerged to enable the shoulders to be delivered
first. Surely this would have been imprinted on the memory if all this
other stuff was. It's details like this that make it impossible to believe
any of this story.
[snip]
--
June G
# 364
http://uk.geocities.com/junegill@btopenworld.com/webpages/index.html.html
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