On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 15:03:49 GMT, Jeff North
<jnorth@yourpantsbigpond.net.au> wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 08:25:46 -0500, in alt.politics.homosexuality
"Jude & Sandra" <Judsan@somewhere.usa> wrote:

|
| "Jeff North" <jnorth@yourpantsbigpond.net.au> wrote in message
| news:ec24f056d694pnbscceludv07eqp3l5pq1@4ax.com...
| > On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 22:26:36 -0500, in alt.politics.homosexuality
| > "Flower Power" <WomansChoice@thisNG.com> wrote:
| > >| "Jeff North" <jnorth@yourpantsbigpond.net.au> wrote in message
| > >| news:4281f0ldjm1qci8l0mtiro27o1890egla9@4ax.com...
| > >| > On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 15:13:37 -0500, in

| > >| > "Flower Power" <WomansChoice@thisNG.com> wrote:
| >
| > [snip]
| >
| > >| > >| $ I'm not a homosexual. I'm saying *ANY* pedophile belongs

| bars
| > >| > >| whether he's gay or straight. What makes you think all the
| pedophile
| > >| > >| priests were homosexuals? Many little girls were also
| molested,... by
| > >| > >| straight-pedophile priests.
| > >| > >| What are YOU saying? That we should round up and murder all
| > >| > >| homosexuals because a few of them are pedophiles?
| > >| > >| Are you saying that pedophilia is OK as long as the pervert

| > >| > >| *straight* and only attacking little girls? Is THAT what

| saying?
| > >| >
| > >| > But...but...but....penis/vagina sex is "normal".
| > >| ===========
| > >| Evidently Jonathan believes as long as the pedophile is STRAIGHT

| > >| rapes/sodomizes little girls it's ok. I wonder why....???
| >
| > Why do you think that Jonathan and his ilk focus on male/boy
| > paeodphile activities and trivialise male/girl paedophile

|
| So, I believe, that they can JUSTIFY their hatred. "I can hate you

| you rape little boys." Who wouldn't react with disgust to anybody

| that? It's a little scary to think that his distinction between the

| (hetero vs. homo pedos) has deteriorated to the rationale that at

| penis/vagina sex is "normal." let's hope THAT wasn't what he REALLY

| saying above.

That is how these bigots justify their hatred against gays. Most
sensible people realist that there is no such person as a 'homosexual
paedophile' or a 'heterosexual paedophile'. A paedophile molests
children regardless of their adult sexual activities/attraction.

A pedophile will usually focus on children below the age of
pubescence. The boys and young men abused by homosexual males
are most often in their early teens. For example those in the Catholic
church who were sexually abuse by homosexual priest or those in BSA
troops abused by homosexual males leaders.

You, and those like you, can lie, deny and make every attempt to
suppress the truth but the truth remains; Among homosexuals there are
a high number who HOMOSEXUALY (not as pedophiles) sexually
abuse boys and young men.

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 05:46:50 GMT, Bob's Boyfriend
<together@wyoming.com> wrote:

In article <ef9a5e666f38c3afbaa3ab95d6ef1e0d@news.teranews.com>,
Johnathan A. <japple@privacy.net> wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 03:49:39 GMT, Jeff North
<jnorth@yourpantsbigpond.net.au> wrote:

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 22:26:36 -0500, in alt.politics.homosexuality
"Flower Power" <WomansChoice@thisNG.com> wrote:

| "Jeff North" <jnorth@yourpantsbigpond.net.au> wrote in message
| news:4281f0ldjm1qci8l0mtiro27o1890egla9@4ax.com...
| > On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 15:13:37 -0500, in alt.politics.homosexuality
| > "Flower Power" <WomansChoice@thisNG.com> wrote:

[snip]

| > >| $ I'm not a homosexual. I'm saying *ANY* pedophile belongs behind
| > >| bars
| > >| whether he's gay or straight. What makes you think all the
| > >| pedophile
| > >| priests were homosexuals? Many little girls were also molested,...
| > >| by
| > >| straight-pedophile priests.
| > >| What are YOU saying? That we should round up and murder all
| > >| homosexuals because a few of them are pedophiles?
| > >| Are you saying that pedophilia is OK as long as the pervert is
| > >| *straight* and only attacking little girls? Is THAT what you're
| > >| saying?
| >
| > But...but...but....penis/vagina sex is "normal".
| ===========
| Evidently Jonathan believes as long as the pedophile is STRAIGHT and
| rapes/sodomizes little girls it's ok. I wonder why....???

Why do you think that Jonathan and his ilk focus on male/boy
paeodphile activities and trivialise male/girl paedophile activities?

Because his post are going to a homosexual newsgroup and involve
homosexuals who sexually abuse young males?

That is a serious accusation. Fill us in. Who is abusing whom?

Ah! The typical homo -- He jumps on his horse named "conclusions" and
rides off in all directions.

***

IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF BENTON COUNTY, ARKANSAS

AFFIDAVIT OF PROBABLE CAUSE TO OBTAIN BAIL

STATE OF ARKANSAS
PLAINTIFF

VS

DAVIS DON CARPENTER
DEFENDANT
W/M, DOB: 08-02-61
&
JOSHUA MACAVE BROWN
DEFENDANT
W/M, DOB: 6-7-77

FACTS CONSTITUTING PROBABLE CAUSE

Comes now Detective Sergeant Terry Woodside of the Rogers Police
Department Criminal Investigation Division, and under oath doth state:
After extensive investigation, on September 26, 1999, the
Defendant, Joshua Macave Brown, DOB: 6-7-77, was arrested on the
charges of Capital Murder, Class Y Felony, and Rape, Class Y Felony (6
COUNTS). Defendant Davis Don Carpenter, DOB: 8-2-61, was arrested on
September 26th, 1999 at approximately 7:45 p.m., on the charges of
Capital Murder, Class Y Felony, and Rape, Class Y Felony (6 COUNTS).
The records of the Rogers Police Department reflect that on
Sunday, September 26th, 1999, at 0453 hours, Patrolman Ian Smith and
Patrolman Jason Curry responded to 1207 West Sunset Drive to assist an
ambulance crew of the Rogers Fire Department regarding a call for
medical assistance. Upon their arrival, Davis Don Carpenter, 38 years
of age, and a resident of 1207 West Sunset Drive contacted them.
Carpenter seemed very upset and repeatedly said, “He’s not breathing”.
Carpenter let the officers into the apartment and to the northwest
bedroom. Another male subject, Joshua (Josh) Brown, 22 years of age,
was standing in the hallway, completely naked, holding a flashlight
and a telephone. The officers observed a young, naked male subject,
later identified as Jesse Dirkhising (aka: Jesse Yates), thirteen
years of age (DOB: 5-24-86), on the floor in the middle of the room,
next to a mattress. Dirkhising’s genitals and abdomen were covered
with what appeared to be feces. Dirkhising’s mouth was blue, he had a
weak pulse, but he did not appear to be breathing. Patrolman Smith
also observed that Dirkhising had masking or duct tape wrapped around
his right hand. When Josh Brown was asked about the tape, he replied
that they were just playing a game. An empty prescription bottle was
observed on the mattress. In addition, Patrolman Smith observed some
pills and a razor blade on a mirror at the front entrance, which
appeared to be controlled substances and drug paraphernalia.
Rogers Fire Department Paramedics transported Dirkhising to St.
Mary’s Hospital emergency room, where he was pronounced dead at 0532
hours.
During preliminary questioning at the scene, Josh Brown assaulted
Corporal Rick Simmons, and was placed under arrest. While being
questioned by Detective Martha Armstrong after being Mirandized, Josh
Brown stated that he was Davis Carpenter’s lover. Brown also said
that he (Brown) and Dirkhising frequently tie each other up, although
not for sexual purposes. Brown stated that on this occasion he snuck
up on Dirkhising, tied his hands behind his back, placed a pair of
underwear in Dirkhising’s mouth and secured them with a bandana and
duct tape. He placed a bandana over Dirkhising’s eyes and secured it
in place with duct tape. He then placed a tee shirt over Dirkhising’s
head, and checked to ensure that Dirkhising’s nostrils were not
covered. He placed belts around Dirkhising’s knees and ankles to hold
his legs together. Brown then untied Dirkhising’s wrists and secured
them to opposite sides of the mattress. He positioned Dirkhising on
his stomach, placing pillows under his stomach. Brown then proceeded
to penetrate Dirkhising’s ***** with various items, including three (3)
fingers of his hand, his penis, a cucumber, a sausage, a banana and a
douche bottle. Brown stated at one point he prepared and administered
an enema for the victim, using his own urine as the liquid. Brown
then positioned a cucumber so that it was slightly penetrating
Dirkhising’s *****, and secured it with tape. He then went to the
kitchen, where he ate a sandwich before returning to the bedroom.
Upon his return, he found that Dirkhising was apparently not
breathing. Brown pulled the tee shirt off Dirkhising’s head, cut the
tape and bandanas away, removed the underwear from Dirkhising’s mouth
and contacted Carpenter. Brown also guessed Dirkhising to be thirteen
or fourteen years old.
Carpenter told officers that Brown woke him up and told him there
was a problem with Dirkhising. Carpenter found Dirkhising lying on
the bedroom floor with his hands bound with tape. He cut the tape and
attempted to administer CPR before calling 9-1-1.
Det. Jarod Mason interviewed Paula McVey, the grandmother of Jesse
Dirkhising (aka: Jesse Yates). Ms. McVey stated that Davis Carpenter
was a friend of Jesse Dirkhising’s mother and stepfather, who live in
Prairie Grove. She stated that for the last two or three months,
Dirkhising had been coming from Prairie Grove to Rogers to stay with
Carpenter on the weekends. She related that she was under the
impression that Dirkhising had been earning money during those
weekends by working for Carpenter at the hairstyling shop where
Carpenter worked. She stated that Carpenter had a younger male lover
who lived with him.
A search warrant for 1207 West Sunset Drive, Davis Carpenter’s
residence, was executed by detectives of the Rogers Police Department.
During the search of the residence, Detectives recovered numerous
small green pills, from the living room and bedroom, various bottles
of prescription medicine, including the controlled substance
amitryptiline, a known heavy sedative commonly used to treat
depression. Also located in the living room, were a mirror with
several of the green pills, and a small quantity of off white colored
powder suspected to be methamphetaminc. Numerous items of evidence
were recovered from the bedroom, including two cucumbers, one of which
was covered with what appeared to be petroleum jelly, the other having
what appeared to be fecal matter on it. Also located in the bedroom
was a tube-shaped sausage, as well as a crushed banana. A plastic
disposable douche bottle with the applicator secured in place with
duct tape was found amongst numerous items used in bondage. The
bondage items included numerous belts, large quantities of duct tape
and strapping tape, handcuffs, nylon rope, what appeared to be a
rubber jumprope, and electrical cord. Detectives located a mass of
items which included used duct tape, what appeared to be a shirt, a
pair of men’s brief underwear, and a bandana, which, according to a
statement by Defendant Josh Brown, were used to gag and blindfold the
victim during the rape. Numerous containers of petroleum jelly were
found throughout the residence.
In the living room, detectives discovered a computer and related
equipment that was still running. When the monitor was turned on, a
program entitled “Medical Drug Reference 4.0” was running on the
computer.
The search also revealed a piece of paper on which a note was
written to “Baby.” (Investigation has revealed that Carpenter refers
to Brown as “Baby.”) In the upper right hand of the note are listed
three types of prescription pills. The text of the note refers to
making a male (“him”) take “those pills.” It then refers to
positioning pillows beneath the male in a certain way. A different
portion of the same piece of paper says to tell “him” not to fight or
else for the next “14 hours” he will be sexually assaulted.
The search also revealed another note, addressed to an unnamed
person, which refers to a piece of meat being inserted in that
person’s *****. The note also refers to “Davis” engaging in sexual
intercourse with “you blindfolded on pills.” There is also a note
addressed to “Baby” that refers to “duct tape in place.”
The search further revealed a hand-drawn diagram depicting a
person on a bed. There are notations that refer to pillows, “tape all
the way around,” “face down,” the buttocks of the person “raised app.
2 feet.” Another note was found in the kitchen area addressed to
“baby”, and states “could cause serious damage-back to 3” sticking out
and duct tape in place.”
The search also revealed a five-page letter addressed “Hey Baby.”
The letter is signed by “Davie.” In the letter, “Davie” describes
seeing