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Re: Homosexuals serve no purpose in the scheme of mankind - further proof |
On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 02:39:55 GMT,
Ignorant Bigot, "Johnathan A." <japple@privacy.net> wrote:
Brent Norman <nelliganemile@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ignorant Bigot, "Johnathan A." <japple@privacy.net> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Ignorant Bigot, "Johnathan A." <japple@privacy.net> wrote:
Homosexuals serve no purpose in the scheme of mankind.
Wrong. They serve precisely the SAME purpose in the "scheme
of mankind" that everyone else does.
Why?
Because TRIVIALITIES -- such as a person's race, ethnicity,
sexual orientation, handedness, hair color, etc., etc. -- have
absolutely NOTHING to do with a person's talents, work ethic,
ambition, and capabilities.
Only social retards as dumb as YOU and you fellow mindless
bigots are, wouldn't be able to figure that out.
Segregationists and homophobes: 2 identically-sociopathic
groups of losers, separated only by 4 decades of time. SAME
abject stupidity.
How characteristic of the under-educated homosexual that
appears to be the norm in APH today; unable to offer a logical
argument he resorts to name calling.
Of course, you stripped the most important point from that post ...
( ...which I've restored, above, in its original context... )
... in order to only answer the part you have a hope in hell of
answering. Here it is for your convenience, the portion that came
before:
" Wrong. They serve precisely the SAME purpose in the "scheme
of mankind" that everyone else does.
WRONG! Homosexuals serve NO USEFUL PURPOSE in the
scheme of mankind.
That is as patently a STUPID thing to say as it would be if you
were to have said the same thing about all left-handed people. Or
people who happen to be brunettes. (You really LOVE to make a
complete ***** of yourself, don't you?)
Where homosexuality to disappear from the earth in the next instant
mankind would not be effected in any way. You are superfluous, an
excess, a perversion an unneeded mistake.
Wrong again. Homosexuality is simply a variation of NORMALCY.
Just as handedness and hair color is. However, bigots like you have
to LEARN to be hateful sociopaths and bottom-feeders of society.
Making you and your ilk a TRUE perversion. And since you contri-
bute nothing but negativity to society, if all bigotry were to end
overnight, the bigots would become exponentially-BETTER people,
and society as a whole would be enormously ENHANCED.
As I pointed out before, homosexuals:
...serve precisely the SAME purpose in the "scheme of
mankind" that everyone else does.
Why?
Because TRIVIALITIES -- such as a person's race, ethnicity,
sexual orientation, handedness, hair color, etc., etc. -- have
absolutely NOTHING do do with a person's talents, work ethic,
ambition, and capabilities."
You include a behavioral characteristic, sexual orientation, in with
immutable ones and try to claim that they are all the same. Another
homosexual LIE.
Wrong, loser. Since I'm not gay, I can't be telling a "homosex-
ual lie." But that's fine, because i have YET to ever SEE a "homo-
sexual lie." Unless it is the sort of lies that morons like *you* so
desperately tell ABOUT homosexuals. (And make total schmucks
of yourselfves in the process.)
Do you regard your OWN sexual orientation to be immutable?
Could YOU, realistically speaking, change to become homosex-
ual? If you're honest, you'll admit that your sexual orientation IS
pragmatically immutable. And guess what? The SAME is true for
the homosexuals. So do yourself a great big favor and grow up!
Stop being a complete JERK over TRIVIALITIES that are abso-
lutely **none** of your business. Do something CONSTRUCTIVE
with your time. Being a moronic and hateful assh*le benefits NO
one. Least of all yourself, butcause all that gets you is being
laughed-at by all SENSIBLE people.
Do you have no honor at all?
ALL egalitarians are honorable people. That goes right along
with BEING a fair-minded and sensible egalitarian who RESPECTS
the personal liberties of others, and DEFENDS them against mindless
and hateful attacks by loathsome bigots.
Is the "right" to engage in homosexuality promiscuity so
important to you that you must exhibit dishonorable
behavior in your frantic defense of the indefensible?
(1) Being DEDICATED to defending the personal of liberties
is not a "frantic" action. It is a carefully-deliberated
and well-organized action.
(2) In case you hadn't noticed, the RIGHT of all of-age
consenting adults in America, regardless of their sexual
orientation, to share sex in private, any way that they
choose, became officially the LAW OF THE LAND just
over a year ago, in America. You moronic busybodies
LOST your nonsensical battle to be total schmucks in
that regard, BIG-time!
(3) The only thing that's "dishonorable" in this post is YOUR
clear-cut proof of your own socially-retardedness and
ignorant bigotry. You are totally without excuse.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
(REAL name and e-mail address, lest any bigot wrongly
think I'm hiding behind an a alias. The "alias," above,
is designed to be a visible MESSAGE, each time I post.)
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INSIGHT on our Warmonger-in-Thief ---
http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicurry/gwbush/dishonestdubya.html
AND...
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/
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ALSO worth a look:
http://anon.newmediamill.speedera.net/anon.newmediamill/pledge_acc/index.html
And... here's what happens to people like you & me:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/21/antiwar.soldier.ap/index.html
However, the same rules don't apply to the "Elite:"
www.awolbush.com
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| Title: Re: Homosexuals serve no purpose in the scheme of mankind - further proof |
15 Jul 2004 09:31:47 PM |
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 23:36:41 GMT, "Brent Norman"
<nelliganemile@hotmail.com> wrote:
<Wild Bill Taylor> wrote in message
news:74d31e9b68b580f983f91a3e72aacc52@news.teranews.com...
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 10:04:23 -0500, "Jude & Sandra"
<Judsan@somewhere.usa> wrote:
<Wild Bill Taylor> wrote in message
news:feb42d4d5e625f39f66ec5d994e132cb@news.teranews.com...
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:42:52 -0500, "Jude & Sandra"
<Judsan@somewhere.usa> wrote:
This is pathetic. YOU choose to not include world wide that heteros
are
the
greatest victims of this virus BECAUSE it doesn't support your bigotry
and
hatred and anger. THAT'S why you want to stay within American borders
because it IS true that the first major spread of AIDs was by gay men.
SO
what? It's NOT a gay disease because it does NOT stay within gay men.
It's
a human's disease that doesn't discriminate like you, bozo. Go cuddle
with
Dave.
Typical US homosexual. You absolutely refuse to take responsibility
for your actions or your behavior. The AIDS problem is the US is
caused by promiscuous homosexuals and the brain-dead IV druggers. But
you're saying that attention should NOT be focused on these two
populations that share the hot beds of AIDS groups in the US. Rather,
you say, blame should be on Heterosexuals in the US, because they are
the main vector in Africa. You are one queer AND stupid son of a
*****.
Typical hate-filled BIGOT who assumes anybody taking up for homosexuals
that
they would have to homosexual themselves. Idiot. I'm a man with a wife
and
3 children. I have a gay sister.
Holy *****! The AIDS problem is the US is caused by promiscuous
homosexuals and the brain-dead IV druggers. But you're saying that
attention should NOT be focused on these two populations, that the
problem lies with all those "fucking" heterosexuals in Africa.
I don't think that was the implications. But you can't treat AIDS like a
U.S.-only problem; it is happening throughout the world, and in different
ways. You treat it like a U.S. -only problem as if to imply that AIDS is a
consequence of being homosexual, when the entire world contradicts that
finding.
You don't solve your problems by concentrating on the problems of
someone a half world away. Those who spread a deadly disease within
the society in which you must live and raise your family is where you
focus your efforts (of course homosexuals rarely raise families it's
not your nature so you really don't have to worry about such things,do
you.) The AIDS problem is the US is caused by promiscuous homosexuals
and the brain-dead IV druggers. That is where OUR (those of us who are
not homosexual apologist, homosexuals or homophiles) problem lies and
that is where our attention must be focused. The US threw fifteen
billion dollars ($15,000,000,000) in American tax revenues at Africa
this year to use in AIDS control. That should keep them in machetes
and spears for a while,
Not only that, but you also forget that heterosexual transmission of AIDS is
the fastest growing segment in the civilized world, no doubt due to the
complacency of certain promiscuous heterosexuals thinking that being
straight somehow provides them immunity, blinded by a false sense of
security, and not taking appropriate precautions.
BUT NOT IN THE UNITED STATES! It has been, is and will likely remain
to be grossly promiscuous homosexuals aided by a group of IV druggers,
who are spreading AIDS in the US. Why do you homosexuals refuse to
accept the responsibility for what the world knows is a fact.
You can focus on U.S. homosexual males, (not homosexual females of course!),
but you should know that between 4.8% and 10% of homosexual males are
actually capable of transmitting the virus, still not acceptable, but
nowhere near a majority of homosexuals.
It makes no difference what their number are, homosexuals have, are
and doubtless will continue to be the No.1 vector of HIV/AIDS in the
US. They account for almost 50% of new AIDS cases every year and have
done so every year for the last two decades. AIDS in the US is a clear
and present danger propagated mainly by homosexuals.
Further
more, dip-*****, you are saying that since you're married and have a
rug munching sister it absolves male homosexuals and IV druggers in
the United States of all responsibility for the consequences of their
promiscuous and stupid behavior.
All individuals are responsible for their own actions. You don't use a fist
to type on your keyboard (wouldn't that be lousy!), you press INDIVIDUAL
keys using your digits. So if you want to assign "blame"(as if that
actually helps anything), then you should be aiming that blame squarely on
the individuals responsible, and not a large segment of people that had
nothing to do with it. Far from all homosexuals are both promiscuous or
unsafe. Yelling at them is not going to make them want to change their
ways. Education, persuasion, positive attitudes will help this to happen.
A homo that is accepted by his family, friends and peers as he is, has much
more to live for than a homo that is rejected by most that he encounters,
and as a result will not be so risky with his life. Encouragement of
stable, loving relationships would probably also go a long way towards
curbing dangerous attitudes and risky behaviours.
That "Bull *****" and you know it. Rectitude of conduct is the answer.
The absence of which is a serious character flaw in promiscuous
homosexuality (perhaps all homosexuals.)
--
The AIDS problem is the US is caused by promiscuous homosexuals and
the brain-dead IV druggers. But homosexuals are saying that attention
of Americans should NOT be focused on these two populations, that the
problem lies with heterosexuals in Africa.
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| User: "Brent Norman" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuals serve no purpose in the scheme of mankind - further proof |
15 Jul 2004 10:34:42 PM |
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<Wild Bill Taylor> wrote in message
news:8f74af2d73816aaeb70ec44cff983cd9@news.teranews.com...
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 23:36:41 GMT, "Brent Norman"
<nelliganemile@hotmail.com> wrote:
<Wild Bill Taylor> wrote in message
news:74d31e9b68b580f983f91a3e72aacc52@news.teranews.com...
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 10:04:23 -0500, "Jude & Sandra"
<Judsan@somewhere.usa> wrote:
<Wild Bill Taylor> wrote in message
news:feb42d4d5e625f39f66ec5d994e132cb@news.teranews.com...
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:42:52 -0500, "Jude & Sandra"
<Judsan@somewhere.usa> wrote:
This is pathetic. YOU choose to not include world wide that
heteros
are
the
greatest victims of this virus BECAUSE it doesn't support your
bigotry
and
hatred and anger. THAT'S why you want to stay within American
borders
because it IS true that the first major spread of AIDs was by gay
men.
SO
what? It's NOT a gay disease because it does NOT stay within gay
men.
It's
a human's disease that doesn't discriminate like you, bozo. Go
cuddle
with
Dave.
Typical US homosexual. You absolutely refuse to take responsibility
for your actions or your behavior. The AIDS problem is the US is
caused by promiscuous homosexuals and the brain-dead IV druggers.
But
you're saying that attention should NOT be focused on these two
populations that share the hot beds of AIDS groups in the US.
Rather,
you say, blame should be on Heterosexuals in the US, because they
are
the main vector in Africa. You are one queer AND stupid son of a
*****.
Typical hate-filled BIGOT who assumes anybody taking up for
homosexuals
that
they would have to homosexual themselves. Idiot. I'm a man with a
wife
and
3 children. I have a gay sister.
Holy *****! The AIDS problem is the US is caused by promiscuous
homosexuals and the brain-dead IV druggers. But you're saying that
attention should NOT be focused on these two populations, that the
problem lies with all those "fucking" heterosexuals in Africa.
I don't think that was the implications. But you can't treat AIDS like a
U.S.-only problem; it is happening throughout the world, and in different
ways. You treat it like a U.S. -only problem as if to imply that AIDS is
a
consequence of being homosexual, when the entire world contradicts that
finding.
You don't solve your problems by concentrating on the problems of
someone a half world away. Those who spread a deadly disease within
the society in which you must live and raise your family is where you
focus your efforts (of course homosexuals rarely raise families it's
not your nature so you really don't have to worry about such things,do
you.) The AIDS problem is the US is caused by promiscuous homosexuals
and the brain-dead IV druggers. That is where OUR (those of us who are
not homosexual apologist, homosexuals or homophiles) problem lies and
that is where our attention must be focused.
Focus on the high-risk groups. The "down-low" types. The
double-life-livers seeking furtive anonymous encounters.. These are the
sources that are the hardest to find. The married man who goes out to the
forest to meet anonymous guys, who does not consider himself "gay".
The US threw fifteen
billion dollars ($15,000,000,000) in American tax revenues at Africa
this year to use in AIDS control. That should keep them in machetes
and spears for a while,
Not only that, but you also forget that heterosexual transmission of AIDS
is
the fastest growing segment in the civilized world, no doubt due to the
complacency of certain promiscuous heterosexuals thinking that being
straight somehow provides them immunity, blinded by a false sense of
security, and not taking appropriate precautions.
BUT NOT IN THE UNITED STATES! It has been, is and will likely remain
to be grossly promiscuous homosexuals aided by a group of IV druggers,
who are spreading AIDS in the US. Why do you homosexuals refuse to
accept the responsibility for what the world knows is a fact.
Apparenlty this trend is changing throughout the developed world. Again,
complacency has set in.
You can focus on U.S. homosexual males, (not homosexual females of
course!),
but you should know that between 4.8% and 10% of homosexual males are
actually capable of transmitting the virus, still not acceptable, but
nowhere near a majority of homosexuals.
It makes no difference what their number are, homosexuals have, are
and doubtless will continue to be the No.1 vector of HIV/AIDS in the
US. They account for almost 50% of new AIDS cases every year and have
done so every year for the last two decades. AIDS in the US is a clear
and present danger propagated mainly by homosexuals.
That may be true, but you cannot blame all homosexuals for the misdeeds of
the few.
To simplify, if there were two cases of AIDS, and there are 100 straight and
10 gay people in the room, and 1 homosexual got AIDS, and one heterosexual
got AIDS, the homosexuals account for 50% of the cases.. Are you going to
point your finger at the other 9 homosexuals that had nothing to do with the
1? We certainly wouldn't point to the other 99 straight guys for the 1
infected one!
Further
more, dip-*****, you are saying that since you're married and have a
rug munching sister it absolves male homosexuals and IV druggers in
the United States of all responsibility for the consequences of their
promiscuous and stupid behavior.
All individuals are responsible for their own actions. You don't use a
fist
to type on your keyboard (wouldn't that be lousy!), you press INDIVIDUAL
keys using your digits. So if you want to assign "blame"(as if that
actually helps anything), then you should be aiming that blame squarely
on
the individuals responsible, and not a large segment of people that had
nothing to do with it. Far from all homosexuals are both promiscuous or
unsafe. Yelling at them is not going to make them want to change their
ways. Education, persuasion, positive attitudes will help this to
happen.
A homo that is accepted by his family, friends and peers as he is, has
much
more to live for than a homo that is rejected by most that he encounters,
and as a result will not be so risky with his life. Encouragement of
stable, loving relationships would probably also go a long way towards
curbing dangerous attitudes and risky behaviours.
That "Bull *****" and you know it. Rectitude of conduct is the answer.
The absence of which is a serious character flaw in promiscuous
homosexuality (perhaps all homosexuals.)
Fine, but it is much more difficult to even get close to that when these
people are dealing with other hostilities and situations in their lives. If
you are busy living a double life, do you care about yourself? Obviously
not. You don't respect yourself, or others. You will take unnecessary
risks for quick pleasure.
--
The AIDS problem is the US is caused by promiscuous homosexuals and
the brain-dead IV druggers. But homosexuals are saying that attention
of Americans should NOT be focused on these two populations, that the
problem lies with heterosexuals in Africa.
Why should I as a non-promiscuous gay man, have to be blamed for the
misdeeds of others? I cannot control the actions of others; I am no one's
master. Individuals should be held accountable for their actions, plain and
simple. On the other hand we have a civilized society that cares for its
citizens, and AIDS patients deserve as much care as a bad eater with heart
problems, or a miner who has lung cancer, regardless of how they got it.
It's kind of like spilled milk. We can cry and yell about it, which is okay
for a little bit, but in the end, we have to deal with the problem, mop it
up, and move on.
If and when a cure is found for AIDS, all affected will benefit.
.
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| User: "Jude & Sandra" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuals serve no purpose in the scheme of mankind - further proof |
16 Jul 2004 08:30:12 AM |
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"Brent Norman" <nelliganemile@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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<Wild Bill Taylor> wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 23:36:41 GMT, "Brent Norman"
<nelliganemile@hotmail.com> wrote:
<Wild Bill Taylor> wrote in message
news:74d31e9b68b580f983f91a3e72aacc52@news.teranews.com...
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 10:04:23 -0500, "Jude & Sandra"
<Judsan@somewhere.usa> wrote:
<Wild Bill Taylor> wrote in message
news:feb42d4d5e625f39f66ec5d994e132cb@news.teranews.com...
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:42:52 -0500, "Jude & Sandra"
<Judsan@somewhere.usa> wrote:
This is pathetic. YOU choose to not include world wide that
heteros
are
the
greatest victims of this virus BECAUSE it doesn't support your
bigotry
and
hatred and anger. THAT'S why you want to stay within American
borders
because it IS true that the first major spread of AIDs was by gay
men.
SO
what? It's NOT a gay disease because it does NOT stay within gay
men.
It's
a human's disease that doesn't discriminate like you, bozo. Go
cuddle
with
Dave.
Typical US homosexual. You absolutely refuse to take
responsibility
for your actions or your behavior. The AIDS problem is the US is
caused by promiscuous homosexuals and the brain-dead IV druggers.
But
you're saying that attention should NOT be focused on these two
populations that share the hot beds of AIDS groups in the US.
Rather,
you say, blame should be on Heterosexuals in the US, because they
are
the main vector in Africa. You are one queer AND stupid son of a
*****.
Typical hate-filled BIGOT who assumes anybody taking up for
homosexuals
that
they would have to homosexual themselves. Idiot. I'm a man with a
wife
and
3 children. I have a gay sister.
Holy *****! The AIDS problem is the US is caused by promiscuous
homosexuals and the brain-dead IV druggers. But you're saying that
attention should NOT be focused on these two populations, that the
problem lies with all those "fucking" heterosexuals in Africa.
I don't think that was the implications. But you can't treat AIDS like
a
U.S.-only problem; it is happening throughout the world, and in
different
ways. You treat it like a U.S. -only problem as if to imply that AIDS
is
a
consequence of being homosexual, when the entire world contradicts that
finding.
You don't solve your problems by concentrating on the problems of
someone a half world away. Those who spread a deadly disease within
the society in which you must live and raise your family is where you
focus your efforts (of course homosexuals rarely raise families it's
not your nature so you really don't have to worry about such things,do
you.) The AIDS problem is the US is caused by promiscuous homosexuals
and the brain-dead IV druggers. That is where OUR (those of us who are
not homosexual apologist, homosexuals or homophiles) problem lies and
that is where our attention must be focused.
Focus on the high-risk groups. The "down-low" types. The
double-life-livers seeking furtive anonymous encounters.. These are the
sources that are the hardest to find. The married man who goes out to the
forest to meet anonymous guys, who does not consider himself "gay".
The US threw fifteen
billion dollars ($15,000,000,000) in American tax revenues at Africa
this year to use in AIDS control. That should keep them in machetes
and spears for a while,
Not only that, but you also forget that heterosexual transmission of
AIDS
is
the fastest growing segment in the civilized world, no doubt due to the
complacency of certain promiscuous heterosexuals thinking that being
straight somehow provides them immunity, blinded by a false sense of
security, and not taking appropriate precautions.
BUT NOT IN THE UNITED STATES! It has been, is and will likely remain
to be grossly promiscuous homosexuals aided by a group of IV druggers,
who are spreading AIDS in the US. Why do you homosexuals refuse to
accept the responsibility for what the world knows is a fact.
Apparenlty this trend is changing throughout the developed world. Again,
complacency has set in.
You can focus on U.S. homosexual males, (not homosexual females of
course!),
but you should know that between 4.8% and 10% of homosexual males are
actually capable of transmitting the virus, still not acceptable, but
nowhere near a majority of homosexuals.
It makes no difference what their number are, homosexuals have, are
and doubtless will continue to be the No.1 vector of HIV/AIDS in the
US. They account for almost 50% of new AIDS cases every year and have
done so every year for the last two decades. AIDS in the US is a clear
and present danger propagated mainly by homosexuals.
That may be true, but you cannot blame all homosexuals for the misdeeds of
the few.
To simplify, if there were two cases of AIDS, and there are 100 straight
and
10 gay people in the room, and 1 homosexual got AIDS, and one heterosexual
got AIDS, the homosexuals account for 50% of the cases.. Are you going to
point your finger at the other 9 homosexuals that had nothing to do with
the
1? We certainly wouldn't point to the other 99 straight guys for the 1
infected one!
Further
more, dip-*****, you are saying that since you're married and have a
rug munching sister it absolves male homosexuals and IV druggers in
the United States of all responsibility for the consequences of their
promiscuous and stupid behavior.
All individuals are responsible for their own actions. You don't use a
fist
to type on your keyboard (wouldn't that be lousy!), you press
INDIVIDUAL
keys using your digits. So if you want to assign "blame"(as if that
actually helps anything), then you should be aiming that blame squarely
on
the individuals responsible, and not a large segment of people that had
nothing to do with it. Far from all homosexuals are both promiscuous
or
unsafe. Yelling at them is not going to make them want to change their
ways. Education, persuasion, positive attitudes will help this to
happen.
A homo that is accepted by his family, friends and peers as he is, has
much
more to live for than a homo that is rejected by most that he
encounters,
and as a result will not be so risky with his life. Encouragement of
stable, loving relationships would probably also go a long way towards
curbing dangerous attitudes and risky behaviours.
That "Bull *****" and you know it. Rectitude of conduct is the answer.
The absence of which is a serious character flaw in promiscuous
homosexuality (perhaps all homosexuals.)
Fine, but it is much more difficult to even get close to that when these
people are dealing with other hostilities and situations in their lives.
If
you are busy living a double life, do you care about yourself? Obviously
not. You don't respect yourself, or others. You will take unnecessary
risks for quick pleasure.
--
The AIDS problem is the US is caused by promiscuous homosexuals and
the brain-dead IV druggers. But homosexuals are saying that attention
of Americans should NOT be focused on these two populations, that the
problem lies with heterosexuals in Africa.
Why should I as a non-promiscuous gay man, have to be blamed for the
misdeeds of others? I cannot control the actions of others; I am no one's
master. Individuals should be held accountable for their actions, plain
and
simple. On the other hand we have a civilized society that cares for its
citizens, and AIDS patients deserve as much care as a bad eater with heart
problems, or a miner who has lung cancer, regardless of how they got it.
It's kind of like spilled milk. We can cry and yell about it, which is
okay
for a little bit, but in the end, we have to deal with the problem, mop it
up, and move on.
If and when a cure is found for AIDS, all affected will benefit.
Brent, you're talking logic and compassion to a hate filled troll. It's an
exercise in frustration and futility. Just shake it off.
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| User: "Mary" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuals serve no purpose in the scheme of mankind - further proof |
15 Jul 2004 10:46:58 PM |
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<Wild Bill Taylor> wrote in message
news:8f74af2d73816aaeb70ec44cff983cd9@news.teranews.com...
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 23:36:41 GMT, "Brent Norman"
<nelliganemile@hotmail.com> wrote:
You don't solve your problems by concentrating on the problems of
someone a half world away. Those who spread a deadly disease within
the society in which you must live and raise your family is where you
focus your efforts (of course homosexuals rarely raise families it's
not your nature so you really don't have to worry about such things,do
you.)
Many homosexuals have children and families.
It the hertorsexuals that have the big problems, over 50% divorce rate,
fathers killing their children, fathers raping their daughters and sons.
Everyday in the newspaper we read about, minister so and so, sodimizes his
son, or pastor so and so rapes his daughter, or father so and so has been
molesting little boys for the last 45 years. Etc.
Clean yourself and your family up before getting into other peoples
business, I wonder why you hate, perhaps your father...
Mary
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"Mary" <Mary@aol.com> wrote in message
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<Wild Bill Taylor> wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 23:36:41 GMT, "Brent Norman"
<nelliganemile@hotmail.com> wrote:
You don't solve your problems by concentrating on the problems of
someone a half world away. Those who spread a deadly disease within
the society in which you must live and raise your family is where you
focus your efforts (of course homosexuals rarely raise families it's
not your nature so you really don't have to worry about such things,do
you.)
Many homosexuals have children and families.
It the hertorsexuals that have the big problems, over 50% divorce rate,
fathers killing their children, fathers raping their daughters and sons.
Everyday in the newspaper we read about, minister so and so, sodimizes his
son, or pastor so and so rapes his daughter, or father so and so has been
molesting little boys for the last 45 years. Etc.
Clean yourself and your family up before getting into other peoples
business, I wonder why you hate, perhaps your father...
Mary
Again, you're trying to use compassion and LOGIC to a hatefilled individual.
He DOESN'T care about logic if it interferes with his hatred and bigotry.
That logic looks like excuses to a bigot.
The REASON he doesn't care about people infected with AIDs in Africa is that
it is the HETERO population that spread it primarily and that are the
overwhelming victims of it. Accepting that with full force would make him
have to rearrange his bigotry to not think of it as a "gay disease."
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<Wild Bill Taylor> wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 10:04:23 -0500, "Jude & Sandra"
<Judsan@somewhere.usa> wrote:
<Wild Bill Taylor> wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:42:52 -0500, "Jude & Sandra"
<Judsan@somewhere.usa> wrote:
This is pathetic. YOU choose to not include world wide that heteros
are
the
greatest victims of this virus BECAUSE it doesn't support your bigotry
and
hatred and anger. THAT'S why you want to stay within American borders
because it IS true that the first major spread of AIDs was by gay men.
SO
what? It's NOT a gay disease because it does NOT stay within gay men.
It's
a human's disease that doesn't discriminate like you, bozo. Go cuddle
with
Dave.
Typical US homosexual. You absolutely refuse to take responsibility
for your actions or your behavior. The AIDS problem is the US is
caused by promiscuous homosexuals and the brain-dead IV druggers. But
you're saying that attention should NOT be focused on these two
populations that share the hot beds of AIDS groups in the US. Rather,
you say, blame should be on Heterosexuals in the US, because they are
the main vector in Africa. You are one queer AND stupid son of a
*****.
Typical hate-filled BIGOT who assumes anybody taking up for homosexuals
that
they would have to homosexual themselves. Idiot. I'm a man with a wife
and
3 children. I have a gay sister.
Holy *****! The AIDS problem is the US is caused by promiscuous
homosexuals and the brain-dead IV druggers. But you're saying that
attention should NOT be focused on these two populations, that the
problem lies with all those "fucking" heterosexuals in Africa. Further
more, dip-*****, you are saying that since you're married and have a
rug munching sister it absolves male homosexuals and IV druggers in
the United States of all responsibility for the consequences of their
promiscuous and stupid behavior. Damn, boy! Do you turn water into
wine and do a thing with loaves and fishes too. You are a real fucking
hot shot!
You are ordered to also go cuddle with Dave, NOW!
You couldn't order fries from your primary income provider wife.
Whoa, look what a troll we've got here. Oh, please say the word "*****"
again with all it's variations 'cause it lends such authority to your posts.
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13 Jul 2004 11:25:24 PM |
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In article <4d3e5e9d7d3ce6af37efe5e406168af4@news.teranews.com>,
Johnathan A. <japple@privacy.net> wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 03:29:38 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Dave <nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:57:03 -0500, "Jude & Sandra"
You are a LIAR of the first degree. It was NEVER a gay disease.
Sorry, but I already proved my case and you responded
You've proven that you're a hate-filled liar.
"Initially, AIDS spread among homosexual men"
The BIG outburst was among homosexual men, twit. HOW MANY TIMES DOES A
PERSON HAVE TO SAY THE SAME THING TO YOUR CLOSED MIND???
You say it was NEVER a gay disease and yet, here, you
admit that it was.
Lying about people is a sin.
Homosexuals are still the largest
contributors.
That's a bald-faced lie. The vast majority of people with AIDS are
heterosexual.
Not in the United States and that is the origin of this discussion.
Here homosexuals are now and have been from the
beginning of the epidemic the No.1 vector of HIV/AIDS.
Homosexual promiscuity has its consequences.
False perceptions.
An individual with HIV can be quite monogamous. HIV is not contracted
based on the number of sexual partners but by having sex with someone
who is infected. One can contract the illness whether they have sex with
5 people in a lifetime or 5,000 people in a period of 2 years. The
tranmission is based on encountering someone with the virus -- not how
often, or with how many sexual partners one has.
Promiscuity only increases the statistical odds of encountering someone
with the virus, but then only one encounter with someone who isn't
promiscuous but who does have the virus is enough to show that statitcs
are flawed.
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13 Jul 2004 11:25:13 PM |
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Johnathan A. <japple@privacy.net> wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 03:29:38 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Dave <nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:57:03 -0500, "Jude & Sandra"
You are a LIAR of the first degree. It was NEVER a gay disease.
Sorry, but I already proved my case and you responded
You've proven that you're a hate-filled liar.
"Initially, AIDS spread among homosexual men"
The BIG outburst was among homosexual men, twit. HOW MANY TIMES DOES A
PERSON HAVE TO SAY THE SAME THING TO YOUR CLOSED MIND???
You say it was NEVER a gay disease and yet, here, you
admit that it was.
Lying about people is a sin.
Homosexuals are still the largest
contributors.
That's a bald-faced lie. The vast majority of people with AIDS are
heterosexual.
Not in the United States
Who gives a *****? The mere fact that you need to limit it to gay
Americans proves that you're motivated by prejudice and hate.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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"Ray Fischer" <> wrote in message
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Johnathan A. <japple@privacy.net> wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 03:29:38 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Dave <nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:57:03 -0500, "Jude & Sandra"
You are a LIAR of the first degree. It was NEVER a gay disease.
Sorry, but I already proved my case and you responded
You've proven that you're a hate-filled liar.
"Initially, AIDS spread among homosexual men"
The BIG outburst was among homosexual men, twit. HOW MANY TIMES DOES
A
PERSON HAVE TO SAY THE SAME THING TO YOUR CLOSED MIND???
You say it was NEVER a gay disease and yet, here, you
admit that it was.
Lying about people is a sin.
Homosexuals are still the largest
contributors.
That's a bald-faced lie. The vast majority of people with AIDS are
heterosexual.
Not in the United States
Who gives a *****? The mere fact that you need to limit it to gay
Americans proves that you're motivated by prejudice and hate.
Thank you. Right, he wants to stick to America so that he can continue to
condemn gay men as some more than ordinary evil insofar that they have their
own disease.
What about sickle cell anemia? Does he call that a "black disease" to
justify hatred and contempt toward them? They're the ONLY carriers of that
disease. Pigs all of them, thinking themselves to be holy and justified
only, when confronted with truth, show themselves to hide behind their
religious bigotry.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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14 Jul 2004 01:56:09 PM |
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Jude & Sandra wrote:
....
What about sickle cell anemia?
Sickle Cell Anemia is NOT JUST a disease: it confers near immunity
to marlia!
Similary, homosexuality helps bond some army guys to their buddies
with whom they must live in pretty bad conditions (e.g. turkish army).
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"Rick Merrill" <RickMerrill@comTHROW.net> wrote in message
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Jude & Sandra wrote:
...
What about sickle cell anemia?
Sickle Cell Anemia is NOT JUST a disease: it confers near immunity
to marlia!
You didn't get the point. The point is that AIDs in NOT a gay disease
because IF it were a gay disease it would have stayed within the gay
community. Sickle Cell Anemia stricks ONLY blacks, as far as I know. I
will defer to anything who can point to me that that is incorrect statement.
Do we, as a people, point to Sickle Cell Anemia and say that because ONLY
blacks get this disease it is an act of God against them?
Futhermore, to continue to call AIDs a gay disease is to COMPLETELY ignore
the FACT that in Africa, where the virus originated, heterosexuals were the
major vehicle with it's first outbreak and continue to be the OVERWHELMING
carriers and victims.
Similary, homosexuality helps bond some army guys to their buddies
with whom they must live in pretty bad conditions (e.g. turkish army).
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14 Jul 2004 04:27:44 PM |
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 18:56:09 GMT, Rick Merrill
<RickMerrill@comTHROW.net> wrote:
Jude & Sandra wrote:
...
What about sickle cell anemia?
Sickle Cell Anemia is NOT JUST a disease: it confers near immunity
to marlia!
Similary, homosexuality helps bond some army guys to their buddies
with whom they must live in pretty bad conditions (e.g. turkish army).
Very true. In the Turkish army they separate the men from the boys
with a crow-bar.
--
The words that AIDS infected homos hate to hear:
"Look Alive! Here come the buzzards." -Pogo
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I can see now that you're unable to understand. If a virus passes through
the air and everybody gets it AT ONCE, is it both a gay AND straight
disease?
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13 Jul 2004 06:22:04 PM |
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"Jude & Sandra" <Judsan@somewhere.usa> wrote in message
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I can see now that you're unable to understand. If a virus passes through
the air and everybody gets it AT ONCE, is it both a gay AND straight
disease?
Let's hope that Phony "pastor" Dave gets a terminal case of it.
Mary
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13 Jul 2004 08:56:00 PM |
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While skydiving off of the Empire State Building on
Tue, 13 Jul 2004 23:22:04 GMT, "Mary" <Mary@aol.com>
screamed out:
"Jude & Sandra" <Judsan@somewhere.usa> wrote in message
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I can see now that you're unable to understand. If a virus passes through
the air and everybody gets it AT ONCE, is it both a gay AND straight
disease?
Let's hope that Phony "pastor" Dave gets a terminal case of it.
And here is the height of love, by one who claims that
it is the Christians who hate.
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"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
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13 Jul 2004 08:55:31 PM |
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While skydiving off of the Empire State Building on
Tue, 13 Jul 2004 16:17:23 -0500, "Jude & Sandra"
<Judsan@somewhere.usa> screamed out:
I can see now that you're unable to understand. If a virus passes through
the air and everybody gets it AT ONCE, is it both a gay AND straight
disease?
And now, in your weak attempt to avoid admitting
defeat, you will make the intentionally deceptive
comparison to a virus that infects people by airborne
travel. <chuckle>
--
± Pastor Dave Raymond ±
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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14 Jul 2004 10:25:50 AM |
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"Pastor Dave" <nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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While skydiving off of the Empire State Building on
Tue, 13 Jul 2004 16:17:23 -0500, "Jude & Sandra"
<Judsan@somewhere.usa> screamed out:
I can see now that you're unable to understand. If a virus passes
through
the air and everybody gets it AT ONCE, is it both a gay AND straight
disease?
And now, in your weak attempt to avoid admitting
defeat, you will make the intentionally deceptive
comparison to a virus that infects people by airborne
travel. <chuckle>
Bye bye Dave, you have lost the debate and I KNOW IT. YOU know what the
above statement I made means and you continue to mis-direct so that you
don't have to admit defeat. Whatever population is hit first doesn't
necessitate calling HIV virus a gay virus or the disease a gay disease.
I've noticed you've continued to NOT comment on the fact that HETEROS were
the primary thrust of the virus in Africa and remain it's overwhelming
(almost complete) victims.
Bye bye now, Dave. Over and out. I KNOW you're a fraud pretending NOT to
understand.
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11 Jul 2004 11:41:02 AM |
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In article <mtq2f01a34m28c8v1emsfvf2hpbn8v7taq@4ax.com>, Pastor Dave
<nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 10:30:44 -0500, "Jude & Sandra"
<Judsan@somewhere.usa> posted thusly:
Heck, no, because most don't care. In fact, the reason why nothing was done
for SO long WAS because it was thought to be a "gay" disease. So much for
the loving heterosexuals (we don't hate the sinner just the sin lie).
It was a gay disease.
Hatred runs deep with you Christian types, doesn't it? It was no more
a "gay disease" that it was a "monkey disease," a "drug users disease,"
a "hemophiliacs disease," a "bisexual disease" or a "heterosexual
disease." Is child molesting a "Catholic Disease?"
You can try to deny the facts
all you want, but that's who spread it and then
introduced it into heterosexual society, via the
bisexual. If it weren't for gays, the problem wouldn't
exist anymore.
Then blame the moneys. They started it.
That's a matter of history. If you
want to get upset, then point your finger where it
belongs.
At the Christian Right who allowed to spread when it could have Ben
contained but the Christians believed the gays "deserved" it and fought
like hell trying to keep anyone from coming up with a treatment.
An AIDS car wash was held outside my secular job
yesterday. Aside from some kids, it was all
homosexuals participating. Think maybe they're feeling
guilty?
Or maybe they care. Some "CHRISTIAN" you are, you piece of *****.
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11 Jul 2004 08:32:57 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <DumpBushInNovember@usa.com> wrote in message
news:110720040941026382%DumpBushInNovember@usa.com...
In article <mtq2f01a34m28c8v1emsfvf2hpbn8v7taq@4ax.com>, Pastor Dave
<nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 10:30:44 -0500, "Jude & Sandra"
<Judsan@somewhere.usa> posted thusly:
Heck, no, because most don't care. In fact, the reason why nothing was
done
for SO long WAS because it was thought to be a "gay" disease. So much
for
the loving heterosexuals (we don't hate the sinner just the sin lie).
It was a gay disease.
Hatred runs deep with you Christian types, doesn't it? It was no more
a "gay disease" that it was a "monkey disease," a "drug users disease,"
a "hemophiliacs disease," a "bisexual disease" or a "heterosexual
disease." Is child molesting a "Catholic Disease?"
You can try to deny the facts
all you want, but that's who spread it and then
introduced it into heterosexual society, via the
bisexual. If it weren't for gays, the problem wouldn't
exist anymore.
Then blame the moneys. They started it.
That's a matter of history. If you
want to get upset, then point your finger where it
belongs.
At the Christian Right who allowed to spread when it could have Ben
contained but the Christians believed the gays "deserved" it and fought
like hell trying to keep anyone from coming up with a treatment.
An AIDS car wash was held outside my secular job
yesterday. Aside from some kids, it was all
homosexuals participating. Think maybe they're feeling
guilty?
Or maybe they care. Some "CHRISTIAN" you are, you piece of *****.
Ain't THAT the truth!!! What is it they like to say?..... oh yeah.... "we
LOVE the sinner and just hate the sin!" .... bunch of hypocritical liars,
they are, of which Dave ranks high. The whole lot of them did NOTHING when
it was thought of as a gay disease and some of the "religious" got on TV to
say it was God's judgment. We're still trying to figure out what ALL the
other diseases on earth are judgments for???
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11 Jul 2004 11:37:45 AM |
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Pastor Dave <nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:mtq2f01a34m28c8v1emsfvf2hpbn8v7taq@4ax.com:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 10:30:44 -0500, "Jude & Sandra"
<Judsan@somewhere.usa> posted thusly:
Heck, no, because most don't care. In fact, the reason why nothing was
done for SO long WAS because it was thought to be a "gay" disease. So
much for the loving heterosexuals (we don't hate the sinner just the
sin lie).
It was a gay disease. You can try to deny the facts
all you want, but that's who spread it and then
introduced it into heterosexual society, via the
bisexual. If it weren't for gays, the problem wouldn't
exist anymore. That's a matter of history. If you
want to get upset, then point your finger where it
belongs.
An AIDS car wash was held outside my secular job
yesterday. Aside from some kids, it was all
homosexuals participating. Think maybe they're feeling
guilty?
Sounds like you are.
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Sorry for the TRIPLE posts. Somehow my computer got the hiccups or
something...
"Brent Norman" <nelliganemile@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Pastor Dave" <nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 15:38:29 GMT, "Brent Norman"
<nelliganemile@hotmail.com> posted thusly:
You're saying that
homosexuals should be allowed to continue on with their sexual
promiscuity which has resulted in their being the No.1 vector of
HIV/AIDS in the US every year for the last 20+ years. That's what
you're saying isn't it. That homosexual should be allowed to continue
on unabated as a clear and present danger in our society with no
consequence or responsibility what so ever for the damage that they
do.
Since the trend is shifting toward heterosexual transmission in the
developed world (and is already so in lesser developed countries), your
point is losing its edge.
"Shifting toward". So it didn't get spread from there,
it spread by homosexuals. Thanks a bunch!
Why do you think that heterosexual transmission is increasing in developed
countries? It's complacency.
As a heterosexual, believing that your "lifestyle" is not conducive to
becoming infected, gives a false sense of security.
One night stands and only worrying about pregnancy contribute greatly.
It's
the "only gays are affected by that, I don't have to worry" attitude that
is
helping this happen.
As for where AIDS "spread from". It is all a matter of chance. If AIDS
had
initially been propagated amongst a promiscuous "free-love-type" hetero
population, we would now be talking about how it "spread" to a gay male
population.
Anybody ever notice that during an AIDS event, what you
see most of, is gays? They know damn well their
lifestyle spreads that disease.
Duhh! Of course. They don't have a "lifestyle" anyway. If their
"lifestyle" spreads the disease, why are less than 10% (between 4.8%-10%)
of
homosexual men infected? Could it be *gasp* that in North America anyway,
HIV started out in a *busy* gay male population, making it initially a
condition that was mostly affecting a gay male population? Those gays at
an
"AIDS event" are there because they care. If/when a cure is found for
AIDS,
everyone, straight and gay who are affected will benefit. Even people who
are not personally affected by AIDS will benefit in some way. So go ahead
and snicker because some people care. I go to and support breast cancer
events, even though I am not personally affected by any of those, nor is
anyone I know. (Especially since breast cancer is *mostly* a women's
issue).
Doesn't mean that I have breast cancer, but I am sensitive to the fact
that
other people are going through it.
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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 15:38:29 GMT, "Brent Norman"
<nelliganemile@hotmail.com> posted thusly:
You're saying that homosexuals should be allowed to continue on with
the rape of boys and young men as they did for decades (and doubtless
still do) in the Catholic churches in the US.
I don't believe he/she was saying that at all. If Catholicism, and society
in general, didn't villify homosexuals, they wouldn't be so dysfunctional.
Right. Now it's the heterosexuals fault that the
homosexual rapes little boys. Sure it is. <chuckle>
--
± Pastor Dave Raymond ±
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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| User: "Brent Norman" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuals serve no purpose in the scheme of mankind - further proof |
11 Jul 2004 09:52:18 AM |
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"Pastor Dave" <nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 15:38:29 GMT, "Brent Norman"
<nelliganemile@hotmail.com> posted thusly:
You're saying that homosexuals should be allowed to continue on with
the rape of boys and young men as they did for decades (and doubtless
still do) in the Catholic churches in the US.
I don't believe he/she was saying that at all. If Catholicism, and
society
in general, didn't villify homosexuals, they wouldn't be so
dysfunctional.
Right. Now it's the heterosexuals fault that the
homosexual rapes little boys. Sure it is. <chuckle>
Of course that's the only way you can see it. If you were raised in an
environment that denied your existence, you might actually go crazy. Not
always, but there is a much higher chance of that happening than if you were
raised in an environment that affirmed your existence and didn't believe in
terrible caricatures of your "kind".
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| User: "Wild Bill Taylor" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuals serve no purpose in the scheme of mankind - further proof |
11 Jul 2004 01:50:48 PM |
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 14:52:18 GMT, "Brent Norman"
<nelliganemile@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Pastor Dave" <nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 15:38:29 GMT, "Brent Norman"
<nelliganemile@hotmail.com> posted thusly:
You're saying that homosexuals should be allowed to continue on with
the rape of boys and young men as they did for decades (and doubtless
still do) in the Catholic churches in the US.
I don't believe he/she was saying that at all. If Catholicism, and
society
in general, didn't villify homosexuals, they wouldn't be so
dysfunctional.
Right. Now it's the heterosexuals fault that the
homosexual rapes little boys. Sure it is. <chuckle>
raised in an environment that affirmed your existence and didn't believe in
terrible caricatures of your "kind".
You haven't experienced a fraction of the discrimination the black
Americans have. In Fact you brag about you superior education, your
greater earning power yet you remain the self proclaimed perpetual
victim when is reality you are nothing more that a whining piece of
homosexual *****! And that the truth of the matter.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuals serve no purpose in the scheme of mankind - further proof |
11 Jul 2004 02:05:17 PM |
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:50:48 GMT, Wild Bill Taylor
posted thusly:
Right. Now it's the heterosexuals fault that the
homosexual rapes little boys. Sure it is. <chuckle>
raised in an environment that affirmed your existence and didn't believe in
terrible caricatures of your "kind".
You haven't experienced a fraction of the discrimination the black
Americans have.
You have made a mistake here. To say they have been
discriminated against at all, assumes that there is
nothing inherently wrong in the position they hold.
For example, there is nothing wrong in being black and
so, it would be discrimination. There is nothing right
in being homosexual and therefore, it is not an issue
of civil rights. What they want, is special rights.
Legal rights that protect them, even though what
they're doing is wrong.
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± Pastor Dave Raymond ±
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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| User: "Brent Norman" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuals serve no purpose in the scheme of mankind - further proof |
11 Jul 2004 03:16:01 PM |
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"Pastor Dave" <nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:50:48 GMT, Wild Bill Taylor
posted thusly:
Right. Now it's the heterosexuals fault that the
homosexual rapes little boys. Sure it is. <chuckle>
raised in an environment that affirmed your existence and didn't
believe in
terrible caricatures of your "kind".
You haven't experienced a fraction of the discrimination the black
Americans have.
You have made a mistake here. To say they have been
discriminated against at all, assumes that there is
nothing inherently wrong in the position they hold.
Wow.
For example, there is nothing wrong in being black and
so, it would be discrimination.
Yet at some point in time, being black was the wrong thing to be, and people
who believed in such discrimination held that exact same reasoning that some
folks do for homosexuals.
There is nothing right
in being homosexual
Of course you have some objective reasoning as to why. Bear in mind that
these objective clarifications, in order to be justified, must be able to be
shown to be exhibited by ALL homosexuals.
and therefore, it is not an issue
of civil rights. What they want, is special rights.
If you are referring to hate-crimes legislation, I couldn't agree more. To
me, a crime is a crime. Whether you beat that guy up because he stole your
favourite pen, or you beat him up because you thought he was gay, is
irrelevant. The point is, a man was beaten up. If anything, the penalty
for such crimes should be heightened in order to discourage it further.
What other "special rights" are we talking about , that somehow elevate gays
to "special treatment" status?
Legal rights that protect them, even though what
they're doing is wrong.
They aren't "doing" anything that others are not. If you want to apply that
discrimination based on sexual acts, you'd have to mandate state-sanctioned
voyeurism.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuals serve no purpose in the scheme of mankind - further proof |
12 Jul 2004 09:21:04 AM |
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 20:16:01 GMT, "Brent Norman"
<nelliganemile@hotmail.com> posted thusly:
"Pastor Dave" <nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:50:48 GMT, Wild Bill Taylor
posted thusly:
Right. Now it's the heterosexuals fault that the
homosexual rapes little boys. Sure it is. <chuckle>
raised in an environment that affirmed your existence and didn't
believe in
terrible caricatures of your "kind".
You haven't experienced a fraction of the discrimination the black
Americans have.
You have made a mistake here. To say they have been
discriminated against at all, assumes that there is
nothing inherently wrong in the position they hold.
Wow.
For example, there is nothing wrong in being black and
so, it would be discrimination.
Yet at some point in time, being black was the wrong thing to be, and people
who believed in such discrimination held that exact same reasoning that some
folks do for homosexuals.
That's incorrect. Those who supported evolutionary
views believed the black people to be inferior. Those
who claimed Scriptural support, found themselves
exposed without any and even they were for the most
part, evolutionists. Scripture does not speak against
being black. It does speak against homosexual acts.
There is nothing right
in being homosexual
Of course you have some objective reasoning as to why.
Yes, the Lord God has called it sin and it is obviously
not a natural act.
--
± Pastor Dave Raymond ±
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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| User: "Brent Norman" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuals serve no purpose in the scheme of mankind - further proof |
12 Jul 2004 10:41:09 AM |
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"Pastor Dave" <nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 20:16:01 GMT, "Brent Norman"
<nelliganemile@hotmail.com> posted thusly:
"Pastor Dave" <nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7k33f0h1s1s84e199ahukie9ij6mnp983r@4ax.com...
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:50:48 GMT, Wild Bill Taylor
posted thusly:
Right. Now it's the heterosexuals fault that the
homosexual rapes little boys. Sure it is. <chuckle>
raised in an environment that affirmed your existence and didn't
believe in
terrible caricatures of your "kind".
You haven't experienced a fraction of the discrimination the black
Americans have.
You have made a mistake here. To say they have been
discriminated against at all, assumes that there is
nothing inherently wrong in the position they hold.
Wow.
For example, there is nothing wrong in being black and
so, it would be discrimination.
Yet at some point in time, being black was the wrong thing to be, and
people
who believed in such discrimination held that exact same reasoning that
some
folks do for homosexuals.
That's incorrect. Those who supported evolutionary
views believed the black people to be inferior. Those
who claimed Scriptural support, found themselves
exposed without any and even they were for the most
part, evolutionists. Scripture does not speak against
being black. It does speak against homosexual acts.
We disagree on what Scripture does or doesn't say about "homosexual acts",
especially once it is taken into account that not all homosexuals engage in
the same "acts".
There is nothing right
in being homosexual
Of course you have some objective reasoning as to why.
Yes, the Lord God has called it sin and it is obviously
not a natural act.
No, the Lord God never called it a si | | | | | | | |
