On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 11:42:04 +1200,
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Pat Winstanley wrote:
GOnorcalnativeSPAM@YOURSELFsbcglobal.net says...
"Pat Winstanley" <wallopcods2003@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
It's a sad day when a killer of a
mass-murderer is executed. Sure he
committed a crime...
And what crime was that? All CIVILIZED
societies permit justifiable homicide
to prevent murder.
Since Hill did not do that (he didn't
prevent any murder by killing anyone),
he was executed for the crime he *did*
commit - cold-blooded, inexcusable murder.
The abortion doctor Hill
... murdered....
eliminated murdered no more babies
Nobody has ever shown, that I have seen,
that that doctor had murdered *any person*,
baby, child or adult!
Then why does Dr. Tiller conduct ceremonies
for the dead infant? The "fetus" is even
dressed up to look like a baby.
Dr. Tiller is one of the few abortion doctors
in the U.S.A. who will perform a late-term
abortions. Women do not obtain late-term
abortions for non-medical reasons, largely
due to laws placed on the books restricting
late-term abortions. As a result, all of his
late-term abortion clients are pregnant women
who *do not want an abortion*, but who have
been told that they can expect serious health
conditions and even death if they go through
with the remainder of the pregnancy and the
childbirth. So prior to the eighth month of
pregnancy, these women are obtaining an
abortion against their desires to eventually
have a baby at birth, but usually for some
good reason like, for example, not depriving
their *existing* children of a mother.
These are women who have put a good deal of
effort into remaining pregnant, and who would
have continued to term had the debilitating
or lethal condition, or high probability of
a debilitating or lethal condition, not been
discovered by their OB/GYN.
As such, these are women who go against
science and technology and perceive the
fetus as already being their newborn baby.
People can believe what they want to about
a fetus, and these women believed that they
were going to get a baby at childbirth.
So when I hear that Dr. Tiller is arranging
elaborate funeral-type ceremonies for the
dead fetus, he's doing it for the woman
involved. He's caring about the feelings
of a woman who had an abortion not because
she wanted an abortion but because her
health and/or life were severely threatened
by the pregnancy and/or childbirth, and
because remaining alive and in good health
was vitally important to some other aspect
of her life. Such as the aforementioned
"not depriving her *existing* children of
a mother".
Which kinda takes some of the steam out of
your arguments that abortion doctors are
these "unfeeling monsters". Abortion
doctors are just as human as anyone, and
they realize that women sometimes need to
experience closure, to say goodbye to the
fetus they carried so long and had such
high hopes for getting a newborn baby at
birth. Dr. Tiller realizes that all of
his late-term abortion clients are there
not because they personally want the
abortion, but because they must remain
alive and in good health for other people
in their lives.
Dr. Tiller, in his funeral ceremonies for
the dead fetus, performed for the benefit
of the health and/or life-saving late-term
abortion client, is the kind of kind,
caring doctor other doctors strive to be
like.
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